America, control

[kolte]

I think that the United States is a horrible un-free country that lies to its own citizens and bullys other countries. I for one am simply tired of the United States arming people and then destroying. Its like this:

"Pick up the gun, come on now do it, pick it up, I dare you"

"Hey man I don't want no trouble man, I just wanna go home"

(Whisper)"Pick up the gun"

"I don't want no trouble man, I just came down here to get some food for my kids and some medicine for my wife man"

(Whisper)"pick up the gun"

The poor guy goes to pick up the gun and POW POW POW, falls dead by the evil corperate america!!!
Did anybody get this?

[nwshc]

I certainly do not. Yes, America has many problems that other countries don't have, but America also has many other freedoms/opportunities that other countries don't have.
Let me ask you this. Do you know why countries lie? They lie so that they don't get their country all into a tizzy and riots form, and they lie so no one gets scared out of their minds. The United States is not the only one that lies to their citizens so don't even just blame it on us. (A great example of a country that lied was Nazi Germany)

[Anonymous]

i like austrailia. i hate america!!!!

[serial-thrilla]

i dunno, some things america has done have been needed but other havent.

[kolte]

America controls. We just charge into a country, kill everybody and then steals there resourses. We stole the original colonies from the british. Kill the mexicans for texas. Killed all the indians for the rest of america. ruled over the islands of the picific. Not to mention the u.s. forcing Japan and china to trade. Takeing over Iraq and threating north korea and iran. Using Propaganda to scare its citizens into buying guns, killing people, and being violent. Did you know america has over 11000 murders a year. Thats to most anywhere else on earth. More people are killed and hurt in america each year then there are hungry people in sudan. America is a bull shit economy created by rasist, narrow minded, christians 200 years ago. Face it, america sucks!

[boognish]

do you have any idea of what your saying? WE WERE THE ORIGIONAL COLONIES we wanted freedom from them, we didnt take them. mexico, yes, indians, yes. islands no, we werent "ruling over the islands" you talking about WW2? they treatened us dumby. did you know that hitler killed over 150 mill in 4 years i think? now figure that to over 30,000 a year. are you seriously comparing murdered people to starving people? you know that the sudanies are starving themselves right? that the only reason they are starving is because they are too busy MURDERING eachother to eat. also other countries probly have a way higher rate of murders it just that the dictator doest the killing and doesnt tell the world. capitalism is great. you saying communism is a better form of economy? talking about oppression....

[nwshc]

America controls. We just charge into a country, kill everybody and then steals there resourses. We stole the original colonies from the british. Kill the mexicans for texas. Killed all the indians for the rest of america. ruled over the islands of the picific. Not to mention the u.s. forcing Japan and china to trade. Takeing over Iraq and threating north korea and iran. Using Propaganda to scare its citizens into buying guns, killing people, and being violent. Did you know america has over 11000 murders a year. Thats to most anywhere else on earth. More people are killed and hurt in america each year then there are hungry people in sudan. America is a bull shit economy created by rasist, narrow minded, christians 200 years ago. Face it, america sucks!

We stole from Britain. Ha.
I say taking over Iraq was needed, but at this moment, it is not being handled the way it should be. Do you know why we are threatening North Korea and Iran (And we are not the only ones)? Because they wanted and are very close to getting into making nuclear weapon and other nuclear programs. Do you know why we are threatening them? Because they are a threat to OUR country. They have reckless dictators and governments that hate America and would try to harm us in some way and some fashion. And if you were smart instead of picking certain info to lean to your side, we are not the only ones threatening them. Most European nations were starting to get very worried because Iran is so close to them. They knew that Iran wouldn't hesitate without warning. Other countries that are worried are China and South Korea.

We are not a bullshit economy. Does it look like we are heading into the next great depression? No. We are doing very fine. Yes, the dollar is down, but big whoop-DE-do. That's the way the world works. We have high points and low points. Its life, get use to it.

These "racist, narrow-minded Christians" as you called them have made this country into the most powerful, and one of the best countries in the world. And they are the ones allowing you to spew all of these lies onto this website. If you were anywhere else and you said this about your country, you would be gone with the snap of the fingers.
Face it, America is best.

[kolte]

You say that america is the best and you praise your brainwashed words about america but the you ramble about things you know nothing about!

quote" If you were anywhere else and you said this about your country, you would be gone with the snap of the fingers " quote

Are you really that ignorent? To think that "only in america" people are free. Open you eyes dude. Germany, Japan, Austriallia, Norway, Sweden, Swizerland, France, Spain, United Kingdom, Canada. These countries, in comparison. Have better economies, less murders, cleaner air, and less violence. But the list continues, there are many countries that have just as high GPA as america. The average man in Singapor makes more then the average american. Russia has climbed out of its depression and is on its way to peace.

quote"you saying communism is a better form of economy? talking about oppression...." quote

Who ever said I was a communist? I have allways leaned tward a market economy and democratic government. I think that free enterprise should and could be shared by the world.

quote"I say taking over Iraq was needed"quote

What??? Do you know how many women, children, and other citizens were killed by america. The whole country was FORCED out of isolation and murdered like dogs. The middle east knows only one way of life, and that the muslim way. Democrocy and The Islamic teachings don't mix. Therefore there will allways be an Iorn fist clutching the countries. According to there religion, they must have these governments, they are fighting because they believe allha will help, save them. But america is an oil hungry bastard anyway. And Bush got his gruppy hands on the liquid gold, built himself a pipe line from afghanistan, going through Iraq and into Kuwait and Sudi Arabia so that Bush can then raise the price of oil to outragous amounts sell it to america for higher prices so he could make a phrofit.

And here is more information about evil, corperate america. More people get sued here then anywhere else in the world. More people are obease here then anywhere else, more crime here then anywhere else, and in this free nation that is supposed to have the most free life, we have more laws then anywhere else.

[nwshc]

"Brainwashed". Why do you people come up with shit excusses?
And yes i am that ignorant, and yes i do know that other countrys are free. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
Russia on its way to peace? Its on its way strait back to communism. You can tell, slowly, it is creaping back to communizm. And Putan isn't helping stop that.
quote"you saying communism is a better form of economy? talking about oppression...." quote
Wow kid, i never said that. Talk about your propeganda...

And do you know how many men, women and children were killed by Saddam Husein? He gasses his own people and i can guarantee right now that he has killed more than us. Guaranteed.
And some of the middle east knows one other way of life. Killing. All the radicals do is kill to show that their religion is SO superior to the others. Its got to be Religion this, Religion that. Nothing would ever work, let alone democracy.

But America is an oil hungry bastard anyway. And Bush got his grubby hands on the liquid gold, built himself a pipe line from Afghanistan, going through Iraq and into Kuwait and Sudi Arabia so that Bush can then raise the price of oil to outragous amounts sell it to america for higher prices so he could make a phrofit.

So you think that Bush is getting all this money under the table, and making his American people suffer? That is the stupidest thing i have ever herd. Did you know that less oil is being pumped from Iraq since the start of the war? No you didn't. So that means that in no way shape or form has this war help fill up our oil tanks. In fact, it had probably made it worse.

So are you going to be the next "crusader" to stop "evil corporate America" from being the best?

You people always focus on the bad. Do you know what is good about America?
We live in a free-enterprise system. This means that we are free to pursue any career you want and no one has to tell you otherwise. Another good thing is our right to vote. And another one is that we are free to practice any religion we want. America does not support or belittle any one religion. In many other countries in the world, they stand in line for hours waiting to buy essential items such as milk or bread. Here, you go to the grocery store and find that food is stacked almost to the ceiling. In this country a person can buy practically anything if they have the money or a credit card. In a world where Catholic and Protestants are fighting each other and religious wars are fought virtually all the time, the United States has never fought such a war. We are a free people. Where else can you talk or write about the President, or sit in a worship service and not fear that Big Brother will come and get you. Many thousands have died that we might have this freedom as well as the many other freedoms we enjoy. The United States is a world superpower. This insures that our freedoms will be here for future generations to come. We are a nation of wealthy people. We are at our best when things are at their worst. In disasters such as earthquakes, floods, and tornadoes we pull together and do whatever is necessary to help our fellow man. Our country has become a world leader on its own. We did not conquer another nation and throw them out. America was formed from scratch with a good foundation that continues to stand.
^^ That is just a small sampling of what is good about America. Yes, we have some things bad about us, But no one ever seems to focus on the good.

[kolte]

quote"you saying communism is a better form of economy? talking about oppression...." quote

Wow kid, i never said that. Talk about your propeganda...


Your right, you didnt say that the person who wrote the passage above you did. Good observation.

We live in a free-enterprise system. This means that we are free to pursue any career you want and no one has to tell you otherwise. Another good thing is our right to vote. And another one is that we are free to practice any religion we want.


Us and every other democrocy. Have you ever even been anywhere else besides the united states? I rather doubt it. Americas freedom rivels few countries. Most are democratic, free, nations.

Where else can you talk or write about the President, or sit in a worship service and not fear that Big Brother will come and get you.

oO Almost every country in europe, south america and the picific. America is not above every other country. It is just another one out there. A superpower? Almost every other country hates america, ever been to france, germany, united kingdom, Canada? There all angry at america for being so.....well......american. Face it, america is an ego heavy control freak. The people are scared shitless and the government is rulled by the wealthy. We are no different then the people we are trying to defeat.

In a world where Catholic and Protestants are fighting each other and religious wars are fought virtually all the time, the United States has never fought such a war.

What do you think the puritins killed all those suspected "witches" for. Why do you think the united states pulled from the UK. Communism is a belief, however ill advised, and the united states ridiculed and jailed people in the 50s 60s and even 70s for sespected communist behaivor. The so called christians who rule this country are so involved in there own beliefs that they segregate everything. They try to install there morals into the american socity. And many comunities have suffered. The gays, blacks, hippies, sk8ters, you name the minority It has been singled out by the GOVERNMENT. Not just other people in the socity.

by the way, don't call me kid, I'm older then you

[DouggyO.o]

how would u know that?
anyways i agree we have done alot of bad thing, i dont think we should be in iraq.

But america is not all bad, the only reason we went into iraq is to protect the citizens of the USA, yes are goverment is to controling but there r doing this for are own safty!

We dont go in and atack because we feel like it, we go in because its for are own safty, do u think we like have are own men and women killed for now reason, i think not!

[nwshc]

quote"you saying communism is a better form of economy? talking about oppression...." quote

Wow kid, i never said that. Talk about your propaganda...


Your right, you didn't say that the person who wrote the passage above you did. Good observation.
O ya, great job mixing in both mine and boognish's posts with out ever writing who made it.

Yes, i have been out of the United States. I have been to the Bahamas and wouldn't Mind going to Italy.

I could care less that they hate or dislike America. Do you know how many people here hate France?

How are we scared shirtless of the government, because i really don't see it. And who cares if they are wealthy? I congratulate them for becoming so. You can't take them down just because they have money. And for all the people that don't, its their fault. The only reason people are poor is because they are lazy, and they don't want to work. There are so many opportunities and programs out there to help the poor get wealthy. Its their decision if they want to do it or not.

People of the United States pulled away from the UK because the King treated them unfairly, and they did not believe that they should be ruled from 3000 miles away.

In any country, the majority religion is going to influence the Government and they way people do things. Its not just the United States. Look at the Middle East. Everything over there is influenced by religion. And they try insert their beliefs into those societies as well.

The gays, blacks, skaters, hippies etc. have not been singled out by the government. They have been singled out by the people (majority). The people run the government, and the people vote on which laws are put into effect or not. Its what the people think, and what the trends are at the time.

And you know what? I will call you KID as much as I want, no matter who you are or how old you are. That's the way i am.

[Dante]

Ok this is my outtake on the situation.

America is a good country, we are the most powerful country in the world, we are a free nation, and we do have many job oppurtunities.

But....Nick for you to say that the reason why people are poor in this country is their fault, you really need to grow up, you have to remember you are just 14 years old, I commend you for your knowledge but you have alot more learning to do, ALOT more......Did you ever think that the reason why people can't get jobs is because the economy stinks....I Have friends whos parents cant get jobs because they're to overqualified.....The reason why business use that excuse is because if you have alot of experience, you know how much you are supposed to get paid, when your new to the field business could pay you as much as they want, and you really cant object.

i wish that the United states would give more money to helping the world, than for war......

do you know that the war in Iraq costs $200 billion dollars.....Do you have any idea what that money could do? not only for people in this country, but for people in others. But we are using it for violence.


Bush led this country into Iraq under false pretenses...and it sucks that he lied to us.

You say that these countries are a threat to us, which maybe true, BUT arent we a threat to these countries, havent we demonstarted that by invading iraq.....

1700 of our troops died and 12,000 iraqi civilians die.
It is was never our place to go and rebuild Iraq and you know it, our country has many problems, and instead of fixing OUR problems, we try to fix theirs.....

how do we tell other countries to get rid of their nuclear weapons, when not only do we have our own...we gave these countries money to build theirs.

The situation with France shows us how ignorant americans are ( not all americans, but a good amount)
They do not support the war in iraq and we bash them for it....like wtf is that?

Why cant we respect their decision....No we should bully them, come the hell on..

Calling French Fries Freedom fries, that was the dumbest shyt I have ever seen in my life.

When it was the Same France that gave the United states the Statue of Liberty, when it was the same france that helped us gain independence from Britain......That is being ungrateful.



I do not like how this country oppresses people because of the way they look, the color of their skin, religion, or sexuality...Other countries embrace these things, but we are having problems with it....(not all of us feel that way, but alot do).

to what boognish said, there are countries in Africa where it is modern day genocide, but there are alot more countries in africa that are facing EXTREME poverty, when they dont have food to eat at night, and the only thing they value is education, because they know thats the only thing that could save them.

That is my take on the situation.

[nwshc]

You right Dante. I did get alittle overboard with it being their fault, but that is my quick take on it.

I Don't know. I think the war was needed but its not being done right. If the war didnt follow through, we would Have all that money. Its all a giant guessing game, and a game of chance.
If we didnt go to war, that money could be used in so many other places. But then we also leave ourself vulnerable because we didnt take out the terrorists.
Now that we ahve gone to war, we have helped all of those Iraqies and made it safer. But now he have a huge debt, and we don't know when we will pull out of there. I read somewhere that this MIGHT go on for another 12 years.'

I dont think we are a threat to countrys. What i mean by them being a threat to us is that they are unpredictable. We can control ourselves to a very high degree, but with them, we wouldnt know if they would send a nuke over here or what.

I also think that the "freedom fries" was a stupid idea. My dad started calling them that and i thought he was such a douche bag. And he is a Democrat. If people knew anything, they would know that they are named "french fries" because they are cut "french" style, not because it was invented in france or whatever.

[Dante]

If people knew anything, they would know that they are named "french fries" because they are cut "french" style, not because it was invented in france or whatever.


lol, so true, ive told many people that it did not originate in france, its just cut frenchand it shut them up, because they are very close minded

But I think there is a way to end all of this, but i dont think Bush want to see it that way. He is a very stubborn man.

[nwshc]

bah

[serial-thrilla]

i dont think that taking over iraq was needed. you guys have saddam who was the main problem, now i think its your time to leave

[Anonymous]

wow, all any country wants is power and wants to be better than everyone else.except most countries use power the wrong way,so it doesnt help.

[redcar]

i dont think that taking over iraq was needed. you guys have saddam who was the main problem, now i think its your time to leave

i agreee taking over iraq was not needed however the americans and british cant leave now, the country is ib a mess they need the get it back on tracks before they leave

[kolte]

I hope I have not offended anybody from VT. I just feel very strongly that america needs to change. Ask anyone from another country. Yes america can take over any country in the world, yes america can defet anyone trying to invade. But do we really have to prove that by lashing out at other ppl. Im going to make another topic. I hope you all attend.

[Jordan-Civ3 Master1991]

I Hate ze amairicans :evil: j-k
americas bad but not that bad

[nwshc]

I don't get why you people say that America is bad. We have our problems. Just like anyother country in the world.

[kolte]

yes, and if I lived in one of those other countries, I would try and change them as well. America cant change the bad unless more ppl are aware of the unjustifications that the evil administrations that run the country have committed. We need more ppl to be angry and say somting about it. If not then we will never change. The more ppl there are who what thing to be right. The better chance we have of achiving our happiness.

[nwshc]

Just because you don't believe in the war, doesn't mean that we need a total sweep of every government official.

"The better chance we have of achiving our happiness."
No, its going to be the better chance we have at achiving your happiness.
Just because you don't agree with what is going on, doesn't mean that you have to say that we are all "brainwashed" and that the government is controling us. That is ubsurd.

[Anonymous]

to bad that we will be the generation that will have to pay heavy taxes! :wink:

[kolte]

nwsch, once again I am sorry for any offensive things I may have said. I really don't think that your rudeness should continue. Please quit being so hateful

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

awwwwwwwwww a debate happened when i was gone :( and the posts are so long and im just too tired to read them all lol.


but ill just trust the fact that nick PWNED you all :D