What is your opinion on Government Indoctrination Centers? (aka "Public Schools")

[triggerperson]

Well, I think they're bullshit. Seriously. I'm not an idiot, I am capable of learning on my own. I knew how to read BEFORE SCHOOL; I knew how to write BEFORE SCHOOL. And everything else I know that has any value whatsoever, I learnt outside of school. Such as philosophy, they don't even teach that to people my age! :mad:

And most of it is pointless to me. I'm not going to become a doctor so why do I need to know the name of every fucking bone in the human body? I'm not religious (I'm quite the anti-theist) so why do I need to read the bible? I don't mind reading a bit of fiction every now and then but I don't like to be forced to. Especially not when people treat it like it's non-fiction.

Now you know mine.
Feel free to share your opinion.

[FreeFall]

Frankly in my opinion, my education is the biggest waste of time. After 9th grade, we basically know all we need to go out and get a mediocre job, so I personally think we should have classes that'll either help us in a trade or career we want to pursue.
Not the standard take the history, take a math, take a science, and take the reading classes aspiring pastry chef!
I desire to become a vet tech, I took two online classes in school for that, but did I really need to learn the freaking perimeter of a 3d Hexagon to graduate? That has no benefit in my life. I couldn't even tell you how to figure that out now, that's how much it impacted me and my aspirations. You must take a math class every year, no thanks, it was a literal waste of time for those that aren't going into a math related field.

[ImCoolBeans]

Pardon me, but what the fuck? People complaining about public schooling? Wow. It's a free ticket to education...

You should be extremely grateful that you have the chance to attend public school, that isn't something readily available to every kid in the world. All you ever hear about is education standards and how they need to improve, how they're slipping and how kids aren't actually learning enough in school; but now here we are saying that we should learn less and even stop attending. Interesting.

You don't want to be an educated person? Maybe it's just me, but I don't enjoy being in a situation and feeling like an idiot because I don't really know what's going on. In America we don't learn religion in public school, so for you (in Sweden?) I can see how you may not like that; but I still think it's pretty extreme.

You don't learn everything you do in school to apply directly to your life. The learning methods and practices that you go through help you learn other things in life. Take science for example, you don't necessarily learn how to do scientific experiments and equations to apply directly into your life at a later time - but being able to do it and having the experience of doing those types of problems may come in handy when learning how to do other things.

You learn quite a bit of valuable information in school, I honestly just think that this is 15 year old hormones talking a bit. You'll probably feel differently about this at a later time.

[PinkFloyd]

yah man were in the same boat. I could do all of this stuff: read, write, etc. I agree with you 100%

(By the way, I got 27/100 credits on the bone test....)

[LouBerry]

^This. Yeah, my education is very important to me. I live in a hicktown in Arkansas, and I want way more than this place is ever going to offer me. I want to be successful and be able to hold an intellectual conversation.

[triggerperson]

Pardon me, but what the fuck? People complaining about public schooling? Wow. It's a free ticket to education...

I can educate myself, thank you. Public schooling can be an option, I don't care, but it shouldn't be compulsory.

You should be extremely grateful that you have the chance to attend public school, that isn't something readily available to every kid in the world.
No shit, Sherlock. But where I live there are libraries, I have access to the internet, documentaries on TV and just other people in my life. I don't live in Africa, the middle of fucking nowhere, without any reliable sources of information. I have other ways of learning and honestly, school just wastes time I could've spent actually learning. I could've been in a library reading about things I would need in my life. But nope! Gotta go to school and learn about some irrelevant king that I'll forget about in no time...

You don't want to be an educated person? Maybe it's just me, but I don't enjoy being in a situation and feeling like an idiot because I don't really know what's going on.
I'm sorry that you're an idiot. But that's your problem not mine. If I encounter something I'm unfamiliar with, I'll research it(if I give a rat's ass about the subject that is).

And I never said anything about not wanting to be educated. I said I didn't want to be forcefully "educated" about completely irrelevant subjects.

You learn quite a bit of valuable information in school, I honestly just think that this is 15 year old hormones talking a bit. You'll probably feel differently about this at a later time.
Oh, fuck you and your ageism. Just because I'm 15 doesn't mean you have to patronise me.

[LouBerry]

You don't have to act like that, act your age and I bet no one will patronize* you.

[ImCoolBeans]

I can educate myself, thank you. Public schooling can be an option, I don't care, but it shouldn't be compulsory.


No shit, Sherlock. But where I live there are libraries, I have access to the internet, documentaries on TV and just other people in my life. I don't live in Africa, the middle of fucking nowhere, without any reliable sources of information. I have other ways of learning and honestly, school just wastes time I could've spent actually learning. I could've been in a library reading about things I would need in my life. But nope! Gotta go to school and learn about some irrelevant king that I'll forget about in no time...


I'm sorry that you're an idiot. But that's your problem not mine. If I encounter something I'm unfamiliar with, I'll research it(if I give a rat's ass about the subject that is).

And I never said anything about not wanting to be educated. I said I didn't want to be forcefully "educated" about completely irrelevant subjects.


Oh, fuck you and your ageism. Just because I'm 15 doesn't mean you have to patronise me.

Hahaha you are so immature. This is my point exactly, thank you so much for backing it up. Really, thank you. You clearly cannot hold a properly mannered debate - your response is totally emotionally driven. Not a smart way to debate or hold any kind of intelligent conversation.

On another note, let's not insult members because if this continues this thread will be closed.

[GaryKTM250]

I gave up on school 2 years ago. My parents shipped me back to the Uk I had 4 weeks at school
got bullied - got expelled - free again --- Just do not go free yourself

Gary - 15 in my caravan Norfolk England.

See my blog for more - maybe somebody could friend me

[LouBerry]

I don't want to make anyone angry, but Jeez, no point in pouting just because someone has a different opinion than you. You're welcome.

[triggerperson]

You don't have to act like that, act your age and I bet no one will patronize* you.

If you knew a thing or two you'd know that both patronise and patronize are correct. So "correcting" my spelling ironically only shows your lack of knowledge.

[ImCoolBeans]

And now let's get back on topic.

[triggerperson]

And now let's get back on topic.
Of course. I missed your reply at first.

Hahaha you are so immature. This is my point exactly, thank you so much for backing it up. Really, thank you. You clearly cannot hold a properly mannered debate - your response is totally emotionally driven. Not a smart way to debate or hold any kind of intelligent conversation.

On another note, let's not insult members because if this continues this thread will be closed.
Who said I was trying to hold an intelligent conversation?
And you're just gonna dismiss everything I wrote because you think it's "emotionally driven"? That's nice.

[ImCoolBeans]

Of course. I missed your reply at first.


Who said I was trying to hold an intelligent conversation?
And you're just gonna dismiss everything I wrote because you think it's "emotionally driven"? That's nice.

I guess the forum announcement does, since the first sentence of it reads:This is a forum to involve yourself in intellectual, serious debates about any topic.

[Cicero]

There are other options, home schooling. I believe that people should go to school, because then they can give back to their community. If the students don't go to school, they won't get a good job. Granted, their has been several success stories, like Bill Gates. But everyone's not gonna become as lucky as he did. He's the top 5 richest guy in the world. Education is free, so I don't see why your complaining about it. Yes, theirs bullying, theirs 2 ther options, home schooling or private schools. If you think your smart enough for private school, you could even get a scholarship. I also believe bullying is something people need to get used of at an early age, because even adults get bullied. By their bosses and even coworkers. I have always been bullied, and I can say it has strengthened me. Which I believe is good, Especially if I'm going to be in a business world.

Edit:
I'm not saying bullying is good, but for some, like me, it might help strengthen them.

[triggerperson]

I guess the forum announcement does, since the first sentence of it reads:

I guess you are. And I never read the rules. Too boring.

There are other options, home schooling. I believe that people should go to school, because then they can give back to their community. If the students don't go to school, they won't get a good job. Granted, their has been several success stories, like Bill Gates. But everyone's not gonna become as lucky as he did. He's the top 5 richest guy in the world. Education is free, so I don't see why your complaining about it. Yes, theirs bullying, theirs 2 ther options, home schooling or private schools. If you think your smart enough for private school, you could even get a scholarship. I also believe bullying is something people need to get used of at an early age, because even adults get bullied. By their bosses and even coworkers. I have always been bullied, and I can say it has strengthened me. Which I believe is good, Especially if I'm going to be in a business world.

Home schooling is banned in Sweden. And good for you (the whole pro-bullying part).

[SaxyHaloBeast]

I have never seen a more ignorant, douchy, a-holeish (pardon my languange) group of sadly confused teenagers in my entire life. Reading this comments about how school is stupid made me feel very smart. You honestly think that you could go educate yourselves with no outside help? I'd like to see you try. Please. Suprise me.

We ARE fortunate to have schools and libraries and the Internet and all other sources of information. Not everyone has access to it. Most of us here do though. Use what you have. And by the way, the only reason we have those things.....is because people were educated enough to provide them.

Do you think I want to read a boring stupid love story like Romeo and Juliet in English Class. Not really no. But I do. I make it through all the things I don't really enjoy because I realize that, in the end, they will only benefit me. I didn't enjoy the story. But now I have a better understanding of human nature and classic language, things that might come in handy later. Shakespeare was a pretty smart guy. That's why we study him. Because he had something important to teach us.

You know what, good for you. You could read and write before you were in school. So could I. But what good is reading and writing if you don't understand what you are reading or even know what to write about? You probably understood somethings that you read and was able to write about a few things. But with just that amount of education, how far would you have gone. Without your parents or your gaurdians teaching you more or you going to school or the library or whatever, how far would you have really gone?

School is there for a reason. It isn't an obligation. It's not a right. It's there for people who want to have an education. People who want to know things that they didn't know. For people who want to make it somewhere in life. It prepares people for the higher learning schools like college and universities. You don't want to go to public school? With the way you act on this board, I doubt anybody else really wants you there either. No one is making you, and if somebody is, well deal with it. Suffer through the classes you hate. Then when you get the choice to move into the area of learning you want, do that. Then you will have a chance of getting the job you want.

Now get over yourself, stop whining, and deal with it like the mature person I'm sure you can be.

[triggerperson]

You honestly think that you could go educate yourselves with no outside help? I'd like to see you try. Please. Suprise me.
I never said I'd do it without any outside help. I've learnt lots of things from my family and friends.

School is there for a reason. It isn't an obligation. It's not a right. It's there for people who want to have an education. People who want to know things that they didn't know. For people who want to make it somewhere in life. It prepares people for the higher learning schools like college and universities. You don't want to go to public school? With the way you act on this board, I doubt anybody else really wants you there either. No one is making you, and if somebody is, well deal with it. Suffer through the classes you hate. Then when you get the choice to move into the area of learning you want, do that. Then you will have a chance of getting the job you want.

Now get over yourself, stop whining, and deal with it like the mature person I'm sure you can be.
But it IS an obligation. If I don't go I'm harassed by psychologists and psychiatrists trying to drug me to "fix me". And my parents would be fined. And in Sweden going to school is a right.

Edit:
I'm not saying bullying is good, but for some, like me, it might help strengthen them.
So you're "partially-pro-bullying"?

[ImCoolBeans]

Edit:
I'm not saying bullying is good, but for some, like me, it might help strengthen them.

Lolwut? Just stop in your tracks dude, that is just going to blow up in your face lol

But yo, personal attacks and insulting needs to stop.

[Gigablue]

I think public schools are useful and necessary, though they could be better run. In many cases, they teach useless things, or don't teach important things. Some of the teachers are bad, and the school system seems to ignore anyone who is above average.

In spite of these flaws, I don't think we should get rid of public schools. Education is a huge investment in the future, and public schools are the best way to educate people. We need to focus on improvement of the public education system.

Many people here speak as though there are only two options: learn through school, or learn without it. Why can't you learn both ways? Go to school and learn there, since most of what's taught is useful, and learn new things that interest you outside of school.

[StoppingTime]

I can educate myself, thank you. Public schooling can be an option, I don't care, but it shouldn't be compulsory.


No shit, Sherlock. But where I live there are libraries, I have access to the internet, documentaries on TV and just other people in my life. I don't live in Africa, the middle of fucking nowhere, without any reliable sources of information. I have other ways of learning and honestly, school just wastes time I could've spent actually learning. I could've been in a library reading about things I would need in my life. But nope! Gotta go to school and learn about some irrelevant king that I'll forget about in no time...


I'm sorry that you're an idiot. But that's your problem not mine. If I encounter something I'm unfamiliar with, I'll research it(if I give a rat's ass about the subject that is).

And I never said anything about not wanting to be educated. I said I didn't want to be forcefully "educated" about completely irrelevant subjects.


Oh, fuck you and your ageism. Just because I'm 15 doesn't mean you have to patronise me.

See, this is why people don't trust teenagers. Because they think everyone will be like this. "I'm so good that I don't need any education past grade eight, I can do it all myself...." And as you said, I'll research it, if I care. That's not how you learn. If you only learned what you felt what was important, well, where would we be today? All that "boring shit" would just be forgotten history.
And, nobody is an idiot. You sound like a wannabe "toschoolforcool" right now. "I don't want to be forcefully educated" Wow.
And yes, I'll bet you will look at this differently when you're older.

[triggerperson]

See, this is why people don't trust teenagers. Because they think everyone will be like this. "I'm so good that I don't need any education past grade eight, I can do it all myself...." And as you said, I'll research it, if I care. That's not how you learn. If you only learned what you felt what was important, well, where would we be today? All that "boring shit" would just be forgotten history.
And, nobody is an idiot. You sound like a wannabe "toschoolforcool" right now. "I don't want to be forcefully educated" Wow.
And yes, I'll bet you will look at this differently when you're older.

I thought the saying was "too cool for school"? And you're wrong about the whole "boring shit would be forgotten". What I find boring others find extremely fascinating. So that wouldn't really be a problem.

Also, I'm not saying that I could do it all by myself, I'm saying that I could do it without compulsory school.

[StoppingTime]

I thought the saying was "too cool for school"? And you're wrong about the whole "boring shit would be forgotten". What I find boring others find extremely fascinating. So that wouldn't really be a problem.

Also, I'm not saying that I could do it all by myself, I'm saying that I could do it without compulsory school.

How many people truly want to learn about complex algebra? :P

And, as Mike said before, it isn't always the information that's important. It's the way that you learn it. Should there be more variety in schools, yes. Should school past eighth grade be an option? I don't think so.

[WaffleSingSong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc
This...Fucking commercials ruin everything...

But, I somewhat agree with you. But I do not think public education is a total failure, but here in the U.S Social Studies classes things are very twisted. For example, In the 5th Grade we were learning about the Cold War, and the vocabulary stated that Socialism is a system of government with very little freedom.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Countries_governed_by_SI_parties.png

Hmm. I did not know France, Australia, Norway and Finland had very little freedom D: (sarcasm hurhurhur lol)

And, yes, sometimes I wished I could be homeschooled, but something tells me I am here in this school just to make it so there brains don't become smoother than Dubya's. Besides, Its FREE education and it helps with social skills, something that it helpful in the future. It's not only there to educate you, it's there to get you into the real world.

[triggerperson]

How many people truly want to learn about complex algebra? :P

And, as Mike said before, it isn't always the information that's important. It's the way that you learn it. Should there be more variety in schools, yes. Should school past eighth grade be an option? I don't think so.

I've known people who like math so much they started learning some on their own. So I'm pretty sure that there are some people on this Earth that would like to learn Algebra. I can't give you the exact number though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTBPdVpdMc
This...Fucking commercials ruin everything...

But, I somewhat agree with you. But I do not think public education is a total failure, but here in the U.S Social Studies classes things are very twisted. For example, In the 5th Grade we were learning about the Cold War, and the vocabulary stated that Socialism is a system of government with very little freedom.

image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Countries_governed_by_SI_parties.png)

Hmm. I did not know France, Australia, Norway and Finland had very little freedom D: (sarcasm hurhurhur lol)

And, yes, sometimes I wished I could be homeschooled, but something tells me I am here in this school just to make it so there brains don't become smoother than Dubya's. Besides, Its FREE education and it helps with social skills, something that it helpful in the future. It's not only there to educate you, it's there to get you into the real world.

Yeah but there are other ways to meet people and develop social skills other than through school.
And I can't watch YouTube because my computer a bit messed up right now.

Please use the "edit" button instead of double posting, thanks. ~Bath/Bethany

[StoppingTime]

I've known people who like math so much they started learning some on their own. So I'm pretty sure that there are some people on this Earth that would like to learn Algebra. I can't give you the exact number though...

You are missing the point. It isn't necessarily the algebra itself that is important. It's the methods in which you learn it. For me, at least, math is one of the subjects I need to put complete concentration in in order to do it properly. If that didn't happen, what would you do if you needed to concentrate, but were never faced with a subject that made you do that before? Would you just learn it right there, on the spot?
I do agree though, there should be options, but it can't be an option to receive education, if you are able to. There are plenty of people who'd love to have a high school education, but never had that chance. And you are just flipping it off, saying, "Do I really need this?"

[WaffleSingSong]

Yeah but there are other ways to meet people and develop social skills other than through school.
And I can't watch YouTube because my computer a bit messed up right now.

Maybe, But it makes it a helluva lot easier for shy folks, now does it?

[triggerperson]

You are missing the point. It isn't necessarily the algebra itself that is important. It's the methods in which you learn it. For me, at least, math is one of the subjects I need to put complete concentration in in order to do it properly. If that didn't happen, what would you do if you needed to concentrate, but were never faced with a subject that made you do that before? Would you just learn it right there, on the spot?
I do agree though, there should be options, but it can't be an option to receive education, if you are able to. There are plenty of people who'd love to have a high school education, but never had that chance. And you are just flipping it off, saying, "Do I really need this?"

I understand your point but I still disagree with you. You can learn how to concentrate doing lots of other things. Cutting up food for example. And then there are other things, I'm sure you'd like to mention, that you "learn subconsciously" in school doing other activities. But you can learn that outside of school as well. Remember before schools existed. Everyone wasn't retarded then you know...

And that I should go to school just because others in less attractive environments would like to is stupid. If I gave you an apple and said that you should eat it because there are people starving that would love to have that apple. But you'd rather have something else, maybe a sandwich. NO! You need to eat the apple because others want it. The fact that you don't isn't the point!

Maybe, But it makes it a helluva lot easier for shy folks, now does it?

Not necessarily. I've seen people so shy they'll just ignore you if you try to talk to them. Being in a school environment didn't really help them in that department.

[StoppingTime]

I understand your point but I still disagree with you. You can learn how to concentrate doing lots of other things. Cutting up food for example. And then there are other things, I'm sure you'd like to mention, that you "learn subconsciously" in school doing other activities. But you can learn that outside of school as well. Remember before schools existed. Everyone wasn't retarded then you know...



Cutting up food ≠ doing algebra. And the other part of your argument was just so off topic it doesn't warrant a response.

[triggerperson]

Cutting up food ≠ doing algebra. And the other part of your argument was just so off topic it doesn't warrant a response.

I know cutting up food isn't as hard as doing algebra. It was an example of an activity in every day life where you have to concentrate. And the other part was a metaphor. What I meant was: The fact that other people in a completely different situation than me would love to go to school doesn't matter. They want to go because there is no other way for them to learn how to read and write and about science and math. I don't want to go because I can learn those things from other places, which I prefer over school.

[Puma_concolor]

Are you seriously complaining about getting an education free of charge? The purpose of school isn't to give students knowledge from a book so they can write it down on a test, it's to teach them to use their brains. One English teacher of mine, probably the best teacher I've had, said something in class when we were discussing the differences of schooling in Europe and in the United States: "There's a difference between knowledge and intelligence - I can't teach someone to be intelligent."

The tests had questions that actually made you think, for example "How does Huck decide between doing what's morally right and socially acceptable?", and that's what the point of going to school is. Chances are you will never use a lot of the math you learn - I hate math - but it teaches how to strategize and solve problems by analyzing each situation.

I'm not from Europe, so I don't know everything about public schools over there, and you can't compare the two systems because they are completely different, not everybody is equal like they are here, which makes it a lot easier for the people who actually want to get an education, they get more attention than they otherwise would. Regardless of whether you value it now, you will down the line. You're not going anywhere, so you might as well take it for what it's worth and learn what you can.

[sammy1996]

Well i dont know anything about the schooling systems in sweden etc so im just going to base this post on education in the UK.

People in 8th grade want it to be optional? That is just totally rediculous, even some people my year (16 year olds) are totally clue-less about anything and everything and without a doubt would if they could stop their education as soon as possible due to "Benefit culture" in the UK at the moment. every school has them, try and think of some of the idiots you know and imagine them leaving school in 8th grade or even at 16 like you can do and trying to get a job, house, etc. they are totally hopeless.

I think education should be, well not forced but compulsory. this is going to make me sound like a arrogant fool but i cant stand dumb people who cant hold a steady, intellectual conversation and quite frankly to me it seems like in the UK thats about 75% of the people in schools. If these people had almost any say in their own education it would involve whatever was easiest and even then wouldnt work at it so while it might limit freedom and independence i would prefer it if schooling was compulsory all the way until you're 18.

As far as your annoyance at them teaching religious studies because of your anti-theism it shouldn't bother you too much, it cant harm you to know more about religions even if you don't care for them yourself, and just think, it gives you more knowledge to disarm actual religious people in debates :P In the UK we stop RE at 12, i wish i still did it just so i could laugh at the teacher when he tries explaining to the class about religious stories and totally contradicts the science classes from the day before :P

[Listed MIA]

Just about everything good i've learned i learned outside of school, either from other people, or i've taught myself. i went to school at 4 years old and i didn't even learn to read till i was 10. (yeah i know thats a crazy late age to learn to read) It was a friend of my dad that actually taught me to read in the end, not school. I wouldn't exactly say that school is a governemnt indoctrination centre, at least none i have been to. i don't feel like they forced any specific belief on me. apart from when i went to catholic school they didn't teach any religion. but i just always hated the fact that it takes up so much of your time when you could be doing something else. (but i never have to go back there again :D )

[FreeFall]

Well, to clarify my statement, I wish the system were different and helped direct us more with what we desired to do in life. I can't fathom how a person's truly against schools, let alone public education.

I couldn't teach myself the things school taught me, we need public schools for those that can't/don't want to go into private schools. We need education centers in general.
Nor should school be optional, I hate that we can drop out of it here at 16. What's a 16 year old high school drop out really hoping to achieve in this day and age? Be the high and mighty all knowing teenager that rears their heads full of ignorance? Nope.

School is not, and never has been, and never will be a total waste of time. I'll argue that some, not all, classes aren't necessary for certain people in their aspirations, but we do need our education and someone to educate us. Heck, I'm still reading over my grammar notes just because the classes that taught me grammar were so short and so rushed that I feel like I'm typing with less intelligence than a graduate should.

[LouBerry]

School is just to get ready for college. Just to make life easier on people.

[Jupiter]

I think the way it is set up is just fine because you can drop out at what, eighteen? seventeen? I don't know, but that seems to be around the time where other things start to become available. Two years can really make a difference in one's opinions.

So you're telling me, OP, that you'd be perfectly fine with no school?

And hey, don't go to college. Someone needs to make my mcdonalds or be my secretary.

[LouBerry]

^Sixteen in Arkansas. You can just get your GED.

[FreeFall]

I think the way it is set up is just fine because you can drop out at what, eighteen? seventeen? I don't know, but that seems to be around the time where other things start to become available. Two years can really make a difference in one's opinions.

So you're telling me, OP, that you'd be perfectly fine with no school?

And hey, don't go to college. Someone needs to make my mcdonalds or be my secretary.
16 here. They'd actually brought in some drop outs to 'scare us away' from dropping out. They truly are your mcdonalds people and secretary people, they're not trusted to do anything above that because they lack their GED or there's some sort of non-diploma discrimination, I forget. But some were in their 30's, some late 40's. One old man said he'd dropped out with hopes of getting into pro sports, he's been mopping floors ever since he last set foot out of school. To stop attending school as early as 16 and be nothing more than a sectary for a huge chunk of your life, that's scary and seems selfish to me. With kids wishing they at least had the choice to even drop out of school, but there are no schools. It would make more sense to me to at least try and get your GED, but they don't seem to want to do that.
We take it for granted, our education. It's a pity.

[Sugaree]

Oh, fuck you and your ageism. Just because I'm 15 doesn't mean you have to patronise me.

Now you just left yourself open to the horde. This is a debate forum; people will patronize you as they see fit. You're 15 and acting like you own the damn world. If you don't want to go to school, hey, be our guests. You'll get nowhere in your life and you probably won't land a steady enough job to keep you in a halfway house.

I was the same at your age. 15, big ideas, and really cocky as fuck. I realized about two years after that I was going nowhere if I acted like I knew it all (which is all YOU do). You mature as you grow older, physically and mentally. Mental maturity is exactly what you're missing, and you're the type of teenager who gives many adults the impression that we all act like this. Get your dick out of your mouth and your head out of your ass, and realize you WILL be patronized on this forum and elsewhere. I, and many others, will not be afraid to do that to you. If you're such a tough kid, then deal with it.

[triggerperson]

So you're telling me, OP, that you'd be perfectly fine with no school?

And hey, don't go to college. Someone needs to make my mcdonalds or be my secretary.
Not exactly but pretty much.
I'm gonna direct you to my reply to the next quote(the part that's bold):

16 here. They'd actually brought in some drop outs to 'scare us away' from dropping out. They truly are your mcdonalds people and secretary people
Well if your school arranged it I'm sure they're fair and brought in a variety of people to give you a true picture of what type of people drop out of high school. (That was sarcasm). You know not everyone that drops out of high school ends up at McDonald's or Burger King. There are millionaires that dropped out of high school. Obviously though, not everyone that drops out are going to become rich. Just like not everyone that goes to college is going to become rich.

If you don't want to go to school, hey, be our guests.
Í can't just not go to school since that is illegal. Which is why I'm upset. It shouldn't be illegal to not go to school.

Are you seriously complaining about getting an education free of charge? The purpose of school isn't to give students knowledge from a book so they can write it down on a test, it's to teach them to use their brains.

Perhaps where you live but definitely not here. In my school it's just memorising and regurgitating facts. And it's not "free of charge". They payment is the taxes everyone has to pay.

[Gaybaby94]

I think public schools are a lot better than a private school that teaches homosexuality is wrong and teaches them to be ignorant.

[Caver]

I think public schools are for so children do not get bored and go out and do things they shouldn't, also it's good to learn and many people find it interesting.

[FreeFall]

Well if your school arranged it I'm sure they're fair and brought in a variety of people to give you a true picture of what type of people drop out of high school. (That was sarcasm). You know not everyone that drops out of high school ends up at McDonald's or Burger King. There are millionaires that dropped out of high school. Obviously though, not everyone that drops out are going to become rich. Just like not everyone that goes to college is going to become rich.
This is true and they were fair. But the only successful guy they could find in my area was a man that cut hair. I could've sworn you had to licensed to work with hair, but he's not and doesn't even have his GED. He makes huge bank, but that didn't much catch the interest of the guys and the girls interested in being beautician are already in the trade school for that. So he was sort of moot.
Personally I'd rather take the risk of being poor with my future degrees than poor without a diploma or GED. At least degrees give you a fighting chance.

[StoppingTime]

I think public schools are a lot better than a private school that teaches homosexuality is wrong and teaches them to be ignorant.

Have you ever crawled out from that rock of yours into the real world? All private schools don't teach "homosexuality is wrong and ignorance." Why are you always so quick to make assumptions when you truly have no idea what you're saying?

[UnknownError]

There's a show on channel 4 called Thelma's Gypsy Girls where she was taking traveller girls in and teaching them about dress making and stuff. They all had dropped out of school around age 7-9 and she had to bring in tutors to teach them skills they should have learned when they were 5. They couldn't write or read or anything.

That's the reason school is important. So you don't end up like that.

I never said I'd do it without any outside help. I've learnt lots of things from my family and friends.

And where did those family and friends learn stuff? Let me guess.... school!

[Thunduhbuhlt]

Pardon me, but what the fuck? People complaining about public schooling? Wow. It's a free ticket to education...

You should be extremely grateful that you have the chance to attend public school, that isn't something readily available to every kid in the world. All you ever hear about is education standards and how they need to improve, how they're slipping and how kids aren't actually learning enough in school; but now here we are saying that we should learn less and even stop attending. Interesting.

You don't want to be an educated person? Maybe it's just me, but I don't enjoy being in a situation and feeling like an idiot because I don't really know what's going on. In America we don't learn religion in public school, so for you (in Sweden?) I can see how you may not like that; but I still think it's pretty extreme.

You don't learn everything you do in school to apply directly to your life. The learning methods and practices that you go through help you learn other things in life. Take science for example, you don't necessarily learn how to do scientific experiments and equations to apply directly into your life at a later time - but being able to do it and having the experience of doing those types of problems may come in handy when learning how to do other things.

You learn quite a bit of valuable information in school, I honestly just think that this is 15 year old hormones talking a bit. You'll probably feel differently about this at a later time.

Mike, I agree. Yet again. Stop being so agreeable.

[Clawhammer]

I'm a homeschooler. I've enjoyed it. Got a good quality education, didn't have to put up with loads of people I don't like. It's a personal preference, but I honestly think that in my case I got a better deal than I would have otherwise.

[Abigballofdust]

It's funny how you like philosophy, yet you're clearly against learning everything and as much as you can. If you really understood the aim of philosophy you would'nt limit yourself to only what you really need. But, if you think philosophy is just a few old men with beards making complex sentences to explain simple things, you're really, really wrong.
Also, your whole vision of school is wrong. I'm sorry you don't enjoy learning and I suggest you to simply make them drop you by failing the same class 'till you're 18 and there's no more legal tender between you and elementary education. You'll have all the time to study from Wikipedia and libraries once you're 18 and officially nothing. Hopefully you'll make good McChickens...

[Sugaree]

I think public schools are a lot better than a private school that teaches homosexuality is wrong and teaches them to be ignorant.

Jesus H. Christ on a bike, look at THIS kid.

[triggerperson]

I think public schools are a lot better than a private school that teaches homosexuality is wrong and teaches them to be ignorant.

:lol:

I'm a homeschooler. I've enjoyed it. Got a good quality education, didn't have to put up with loads of people I don't like. It's a personal preference, but I honestly think that in my case I got a better deal than I would have otherwise.
I'd kill to be home-schooled.

It's funny how you like philosophy, yet you're clearly against learning everything and as much as you can. If you really understood the aim of philosophy you would'nt limit yourself to only what you really need. But, if you think philosophy is just a few old men with beards making complex sentences to explain simple things, you're really, really wrong.
Also, your whole vision of school is wrong. I'm sorry you don't enjoy learning and I suggest you to simply make them drop you by failing the same class 'till you're 18 and there's no more legal tender between you and elementary education. You'll have all the time to study from Wikipedia and libraries once you're 18 and officially nothing. Hopefully you'll make good McChickens...
I don't know where I supposedly said that I'm against learning so I'd love it if you would be so kind as to point that out for me.

[Sugaree]

I'd kill to be home-schooled.

And what do you think home schooling is? Sitting around all day and watching TV? It's not. I've been home schooled since 5th grade, and let me tell you, it's no walk in the park. You have to do the same amount of work, if not MORE, than you do in a public or private school. You still have deadlines to meet, papers to make, and a lot of other things. It's just public/private school at home with a few advantages.

[Abigballofdust]

I don't know where I supposedly said that I'm against learning so I'd love it if you would be so kind as to point that out for me.

I said you're against learning everything as much as you can. Which is the only way to even start comprehending philosophy (which you stated as something they DON'T teach you but they should).

And most of it is pointless to me. I'm not going to become a doctor so why do I need to know the name of every fucking bone in the human body? I'm not religious (I'm quite the anti-theist) so why do I need to read the bible?

I could've been in a library reading about things I would need in my life. But nope! Gotta go to school and learn about some irrelevant king that I'll forget about in no time...


If I encounter something I'm unfamiliar with, I'll research it(if I give a rat's ass about the subject that is).

And so on...


I think public schools are a lot better than a private school that teaches homosexuality is wrong and teaches them to be ignorant.
LOL. People like you make the whole fight for homosexual rights useless.
Please, make a favor to humanity, avoid any kind of discussion, at all costs. The world does not turn around you being gay, there are things that matter much more than the fact that you want to marry your boyfriend. You manage to make me homophobic, and I'm gay as fuck.

[Sugaree]

You manage to make me homophobic, and I'm gay as fuck.

That's it. End of thread. Goodnight everyone!

[Cicero]

I think public schools are a lot better than a private school that teaches homosexuality is wrong and teaches them to be ignorant.

It doesn't mean their ignorant, also, not all private schools are like that. I know a lot, that are just like private schools, but instead of poor kids, they have wealthy kids. Instead someone pulling up in a ford (I love fords personally) they're pulling up in bentleys or rolls Royce's or mercedes or BMWs. In fact, theirs one private school I know of, and if you pull up in a car less than $60,000, your probably considered to have not much money. Kinda crazy but true.

[War-Is-Real]

Government run schools are dumbing down children and are messing with them. The governmant wants us all to be slaves.
We need to overthrow it.
Unfortanetly, I don't have the time or room or people to do something that drastic.

[Thanatos]

You manage to make me homophobic, and I'm gay as fuck.

We really should end the thread on this sentence.

But I digress. Now I may not be 15 and own the world, but I like to think that I'm a pretty smart, well rounded guy. I got a full ride to my college, I read a shitton, I played hockey for 8 years. etc. Yet I can still walk into a conversation with other kids my age and feel like a moron.

I understand what you are saying about the irrelevance of complex algebra and AP physics to those of us not going into a mathematics or science major (I'm a Secondary Ed/History). As others stated though its the indirect lessons we learn from them that benefit us. Things like studying habits, working under stress, finding easier ways to remember/pneumatic devices, knowing when to get help, using our resources, doing things we don't want to do.

That is the biggest lesson school will teach you. You said somewhere that you'd "research it, if I gave a rat's ass". Well I'm sorry to tell ya bud, but life is full of things that you don't want to do but have to. The earlier you get used to it, the better off you will be.

In addition to academics, schools also provide a setting for you to develop skills in socializing. Being able to work in groups, being able to approach new people, making friends, playing on teams, and even as was pointed out, learning how to take shit.

I am going to be obliterated for this comment, but I will not regret it: Bullying is an understandable and to an extent beneficial part of school. Guess what guys, bullies exist. Not just in 9th grade. They exist in your office, as your boss, as your neighbor, etc. If you can't deal with that, you are not going to be able to function in the world. Sometimes you just need to toughen up. I was bullied from 5th grade through 12th, mentally, verbally, physically, cyber, whatever you want to call it. It helped me develop thick skin and learn to worry about what I think not others.

Please don't turn the thread into a rant against me, I think this conversation has some potential, if you want to rip me apart, send me a pm or start another thread.

[triggerperson]

And what do you think home schooling is? Sitting around all day and watching TV? It's not.
I know. Obviously, home schooling is being schooled at home. Which would require me to work. But I'd be fine with that. I have nothing against work itself but rather being forced to work on completely useless information in a school environment.

I said you're against learning everything as much as you can. Which is the only way to even start comprehending philosophy (which you stated as something they DON'T teach you but they should).
But I'm not against learning. I enjoy learning. Just not about useless subjects that I couldn't care less about. And you can't say that it's impossible to comprehend philosophy without an extensive knowledge about everything. That is not true.

[SaxyHaloBeast]

Trigger. In home schooling, what do you think you would learn? Do you think it wouldn't be just about the same material as in public school?

And what useless subjects are you talking about? Be specific. Give a few examples.

[OregonStateDude]

Public school isn't just about getting an education from books, it's also about learning to interact with a variety of different people. For example, my city is 20% Asian. And I was able to learn a bit about their culture from just talking to them.

[triggerperson]

Trigger. In home schooling, what do you think you would learn? Do you think it wouldn't be just about the same material as in public school?
I assume the only difference would be that I would work at home. Meaning, all the same subjects that I am learning about now. Though that is normal home schooling. My dream would be to be unschooled though I'm smart enough to realise that that will never ever EVER EVER happen.

And what useless subjects are you talking about? Be specific. Give a few examples.

Mainly religion. I do like mathematics and physics though, just to throw that out there. I think I should be allowed to skip English (or join a more advanced class) since I'm already fluent. My classmates though should definitely stay in that class. They think met is pronounced like meet.:lol: Oh idiots... :rolleyes: My teacher teaches us words like shone. And I'm reading Infinite Jest right now (on and off) so that feels a bit ridiculous. I think music is pointless. I don't need to know the names of all the wind instruments. I don't like Swedish either. I think it's pointless since I am most definitely fluent in Swedish since I am Swedish. And I don't really care for Swedish since I plan to move out of Sweden as soon as possible. Biology is partly pointless. There are some things that are good to know like where your heart is and what bone is. But a lot of it is just so useless because of the fact I am never going to become a doctor or work in that field. Like what that tiny piece of bone in your ear is called. Do I really need to know that?

[FreeFall]

Public school isn't just about getting an education from books, it's also about learning to interact with a variety of different people. For example, my city is 20% Asian. And I was able to learn a bit about their culture from just talking to them.
This. You really get to feel what you're most likely going to expect in the workforce. How to deal with others, people of differing cultures/morals/beliefs and how to make it so you all can function with respect.

[SaxyHaloBeast]

Trigger. I know you are probably a smart kid, but schooling is something I don't think you should waste. Use it while you have it. You might as well.

Those 'pointless subjects' all have a point.
Religion is taught so that you can have a broader view of the world. The more you know about different religions, the more you come to respect that those are their beliefs. Learning religion might teach you tolerance and acceptance of others, something that seriously lacks with a lot of people on this board.

English is there because it is pretty much the standard language of the world. Most countries are starting to teach it because of how much it is used. It is there so that you will not be lost if you don't understand English. You are already fluent? Well I grew up learning English in America and I still have to take it. Why? To tell you the truth, I'm not exactly sure. But I will keep on taking it until it's no longer required because it can't hurt to have a good understanding of the language.

Music is one of my favorite subjects. Ever. Of all time. So forgive me for being a little upset with your comment about it. I forgive you. Music is everywhere. It's involved with almost every thing in the world. It is part of every culture and affects practically every one on this Earth. I know it seems pointless to know every instruments' name, but understanding music and appreciating it isn't a bad thing. It isn't pointless.

Biology is the study of life. You are alive right? You live in world full of life? Well Biology teaches you everything about that. Knowledge like that doesn't seem important right now, but all this knowledge you are receiving will all be useful in the future in some way or other.

I know you just want to learn the subjects you want and I understand that. But learning about all these things is only going to improve your understanding of the world around you. Take advantage of all the knowledge you can. It may seem pointless, but it will help in the end.

[Professional Russian]

as much as i hate school i have to say this the dumbest thread ive seen made so far. if you dont go to school you will learn nothing. sure ou can read and write but that doesnt matter if you cant make it comprhendible. This thread is totally useless and has got the dumbest thing ive seen all day.

[triggerperson]

as much as i hate school i have to say this the dumbest thread ive seen made so far. if you dont go to school you will learn nothing. sure ou can read and write but that doesnt matter if you cant make it comprhendible. This thread is totally useless and has got the dumbest thing ive seen all day.

You honestly think that a person would learn absolutely nothing in their entire life if they never went to school? That, my friend, is among the most idiotic things I have ever read.

It's funny that I hate school and try to dissociate as much as possible while there and yet I'm still a better writer than you. Who I assume goes to school and actually tries to learn since you speak so well of it.

I mean seriously. Let me fix your post for you.
As much as I hate school, I have to say that this is the dumbest thread I've seen so far. If you don't go to school, you will learn nothing. Sure you'll be able to read and write but that won't matter if you can't make it comprehensible. This thread is totally useless and has got to be the dumbest thing I've seen all day.
Voila!

[Bath]

Meanwhile there are kids in less fortunate countries who would do anything to replace you in your school's desk.

[triggerperson]

Meanwhile there are kids in less fortunate countries who would do anything to replace you in your school's desk.

That's because they live in a different environment without any libraries and what not. They can't get their information anywhere. Their parents can't teach them anything. So therefore they'd love to go to school. That's not the case where I live. I don't have those problems.

They probably would do anything to eat foods you think are disgusting as well. Just to have some food. Does that mean you should force yourself to eat stuff you don't like? No. It's a stupid argument.

[Bath]

That's because they live in a different environment without any libraries and what not. They can't get their information anywhere. Their parents can't teach them anything. So therefore they'd love to go to school. That's not the case where I live. I don't have those problems.

They probably would do anything to eat foods you think are disgusting as well. Just to have some food. Does that mean you should force yourself to eat stuff you don't like? No. It's a stupid argument.

You cannot rely on yourself for full education. You can't rely solely on your parents either-- in your case, you're not religious, but what if somebody's parents where Christian? They would be teaching their kids that the earth is 6,000 years old. You cannot teach yourself just based on books. Experience is more valuable.

School is not that bad as long as you take everything with a grain of salt.

[Professional Russian]

You honestly think that a person would learn absolutely nothing in their entire life if they never went to school? That, my friend, is among the most idiotic things I have ever read.

It's funny that I hate school and try to dissociate as much as possible while there and yet I'm still a better writer than you. Who I assume goes to school and actually tries to learn since you speak so well of it.

I mean seriously. Let me fix your post for you.

Voila!

one my typeing isnt the best because im replieing useing my wii and it sucks. 2. you seem like a very arrogant asshole type person to me. and 3. yes ive learned alot outside of school but ive also learned alot in school(of course thats because there were no restrictions on me because my school loves and doesnt care what i do) but aside from that there are things you will learn in that you wont learn outside of it.

[triggerperson]

You cannot rely on yourself for full education. You can't rely solely on your parents either-- in your case, you're not religious, but what if somebody's parents where Christian? They would be teaching their kids that the earth is 6,000 years old. You cannot teach yourself just based on books. Experience is more valuable.

School is not that bad as long as you take everything with a grain of salt.

I'm not saying that I'd rely solely on myself or my parents or books to learn things. I'm saying that I can learn things without school. If my parents said that the Earth is 6000 years old I'd look that up and find out that they're bullshitting me. There are a shit ton of resources nowadays for me to use when learning. Which means that I can double or triple check everything I hear to see whether or not it's true.

one my typeing isnt the best because im replieing useing my wii and it sucks. 2. you seem like a very arrogant asshole type person to me. and 3. yes ive learned alot outside of school but ive also learned alot in school(of course thats because there were no restrictions on me because my school loves and doesnt care what i do) but aside from that there are things you will learn in that you wont learn outside of it.
1: I don't see how using a Wii can make you forget proper grammar.
2: And you seem like an idiot to me.
3: Your school loves? What? I don't understand what you're trying say.

[Bath]

I'm not saying that I'd rely solely on myself or my parents or books to learn things. I'm saying that I can learn things without school. If my parents said that the Earth is 6000 years old I'd look that up and find out that they're bullshitting me.

You can say that all you want, but if you're a child, you believe what you're told by your parents... at least until you are old enough to decide otherwise. Even then, not many children do. Children are brainwashed all the time by their parents in the case of religion.

There are a shit ton of resources nowadays for me to use when learning. Which means that I can double or triple check everything I hear to see whether or not it's true.

You're a smart cookie. However, is everyone capable of doing that?


1: I don't see how using a Wii can make you forget proper grammar.
2: And you seem like an idiot to me.
3: Your school loves? What? I don't understand what you're trying say.

Relax with the insults, that's definitely not allowed.

[Professional Russian]

1: I don't see how using a Wii can make you forget proper grammar.
2: And you seem like an idiot to me.
3: Your school loves? What? I don't understand what you're trying say.

1:Have you ever typed on a wii? it fucking sucks.
2:your proveing yourself to be an asshole.
3:The staff of my school liked me enough that they let me use everything that school had. i fucking used the shop for personal projects. i brought my own tools to school. i could anyhting and get away with it.

[triggerperson]

1:Have you ever typed on a wii? it fucking sucks.
2:your proveing yourself to be an asshole.
3:The staff of my school liked me enough that they let me use everything that school had. i fucking used the shop for personal projects. i brought my own tools to school. i could anyhting and get away with it.

1: Yes, yes I have.
2: You're* proving* yourself to be an idiot.
3: Good for you.

[Professional Russian]

1: Yes, yes I have.
2: You're* proving* yourself to be an idiot.
3: Good for you.

ok just because i dont have good grammar doesnt mean im an idiot im probably smarter than you in someways.

[triggerperson]

ok just because i dont have good grammar doesnt mean im an idiot im probably smarter than you in someways.

Sure. :lol:

[Bath]

Guys, get back on topic before I lock this thread for being a spam of insults.

[Professional Russian]

Sure. :lol:

Do you know how to electrical work? Do you know wood work? do you know Metal work? do you know gunsmithing? Do you know Land scapeing? do you know mechanical work? I cant say i know everything about each of those topics but i do enough to get the job done. Just because i cant type doesnt mean im stupid so id suggest shuting the fuck up.

[triggerperson]

You can say that all you want, but if you're a child, you believe what you're told by your parents... at least until you are old enough to decide otherwise. Even then, not many children do. Children are brainwashed all the time by their parents in the case of religion.
I believed in Santa as a very little kid because that's what people told me was true. Then I realised that that's fucking stupid and obviously my parents are the ones who buy the gifts. If people don't realise that Santa isn't real as they grow then they probably have some type of learning disability.

Meaning, if people don't realise that what their parents tell them isn't always true they probably should be evaluated. And going to school doesn't make this problem go away. Like you mentioned, people still believe in religion because their parents taught them to.

You're a smart cookie. However, is everyone capable of doing that?
That's not really my problem, is it?

Guys, get back on topic before I lock this thread for being a spam of insults.

Okay then Mr. Partypooper (that doesn't count as an insult, right?).

[ImCoolBeans]

If a moderator tells you to get back on topic and stop with the insults that means you do it. She did not ask you to get back on topic, she said get back on topic. If you can't handle yourself then thread will be closed and infractions will be given out. End of.

[triggerperson]

Do you know how to electrical work? Do you know wood work? do you know Metal work? do you know gunsmithing? Do you know Land scapeing? do you know mechanical work? I cant say i know everything about each of those topics but i do enough to get the job done. Just because i cant type doesnt mean im stupid so id suggest shuting the fuck up.

I'm going to stop replying to you now then since it seems to be against the rules (at least in the manner I planned to).

[Professional Russian]

If a moderator tells you to get back on topic and stop with the insults that means you do it. She did not ask you to get back on topic, she said get back on topic. If you can't handle yourself then thread will be closed and infractions will be given out. End of.

sorry mike i was replieing when she posted that. i didnt see it till after i posted

[SaxyHaloBeast]

Trigger. Please. Take a step back and look at what you have said. You should be able to tell that a lot of what you have said is kind of arrogant. I know you are smart. THAT is why I want you to go to school. With your kind of natural intelligence, you would be able to easily make it through school no matter how pointless it seems. Don't waste the natural ability you have. Use it to the highest degree you possibly can.

The thing about Santa and the brainwashing parents kind of bugged me a little. Yes. I know Santa isn't real. Every kid figures that out eventually. But do you understand the point of Santa? Parents tell their kids these Christmas stories because, in a world like today, it's nice to have something to hope and dream for. Santa isn't real. But the meaning behind him is VERY real. When your parents teach you about their religion, it's because they want you to feel the same happiness they have felt. Atleast, that's how parents were. They taught me through scripture and stories about God and prophets. I love those stories. I love the scriptures. I love the hope and faith I have in my church. THAT is why parents teach you the way that they do. They want you to have something to hope and dream for. I'm at the age now where I can decide for myself what I think is true. I have made that decision. Call me brainwashed if you want. But I know what I know not because my parents forced it into my head, but because I wanted to have my parents had. I know you guys mean well and that you have your own opinions.

[Puma_concolor]

sure ou can read and write but that doesnt matter if you cant make it comprhendible.

http://chanarchive.org/content/50_b/319956989/1301747150468.jpg

The irony

[Professional Russian]

image (http://chanarchive.org/content/50_b/319956989/1301747150468.jpg)

The irony

most people know exactly what im saying only you and a few other people cant read it. Learn to read stupid or ill have to start speaking phonetics

[triggerperson]

I don't care if a mod locks the topic this has to be said.
most people know exactly what im saying only you and a few other people cant read it. Learn to read stupid or ill have to start speaking phonetics

"Learn to read stupid" you have got to be kidding me! It's you who should learn to write, Jesus Christ. You are appearing to be such an idiot since you seem to be incapable of writing properly and yet you go around telling other people they are stupid. I don't even... You just... Oh my god. Thank you though. I needed a good laugh. :lol:

By the way, surely most of what you write is understandable but it's still quite unpleasant to read. I cringe reading your posts. Seriously.

[SaxyHaloBeast]

I can see that my input did not affect Trigger whatsoever..........

[Professional Russian]

I don't care if a mod locks the topic this has to be said.


"Learn to read stupid" you have got to be kidding me! It's you who should learn to write, Jesus Christ. You are appearing to be such an idiot since you seem to be incapable of writing properly and yet you go around telling other people they are stupid. I don't even... You just... Oh my god. Thank you though. I needed a good laugh. :lol:

By the way, surely most of what you write is understandable but it's still quite unpleasant to read. I cringe reading your posts. Seriously.

And i Cringe At your Hard headed stupidity we're equal now.

[Puma_concolor]

And i Cringe At your Hard headed stupidity we're equal now.


You cringe because of your disabilities. Don't fuck up the land when you blow shit up, although I'm sure you walking through the woods causes damage comparable to a strip mine.

I can already read Russian and I don't have any Russian in me. You're still stuck on Basic English, don't be criticizing me or anybody else Johnny.

[World Eater]

I don't like school, but it is what it is.

[Professional Russian]

You cringe because of your disabilities. Don't fuck up the land when you blow shit up, although I'm sure you walking through the woods causes damage comparable to a strip mine.

I can already read Russian and I don't have any Russian in me. You're still stuck on Basic English, don't be criticizing me or anybody else Johnny.

I dont have any disability. Oh thanks for calling me fat. And stop fucking calling me johnny. i get the joke but stop calling me johnny damn it. Just shut the fuck up and go the fuck away im getting really pissed off at you trying to humiliate me. Just stop following every fucking post i make.

[ImCoolBeans]

This thread has gotten way out of control. Can you guys seriously not handle yourselves for one minute? Every thread you get involved with turns into a fight, a bashfest, or a topic off-topic rambling of nonsense. I'm sick of it. Cut it out because next time you'll all just get another infraction. :locked: