what do other countreys think of the USA?

[Dabigdtc]

As said in the title I just want to know how other people think of us?

[Haufen]

As said in the title I just want to know how other people think of us?

Is this a serious question? What do you think people think of the US?

[Dabigdtc]

Is this a serious question? What do you think people think of the US?

Yes it is serious I'm interested in the views of different places. As far as I know our government is disliked but no idea of the views on the people :confused:

[Haufen]

As far as I know our government is disliked but no idea of the views on the people :confused:

Fat, stupid, lazy, fundamentalist christian, don't know anything about the world nor history nor culture, believe and follow news corporations, companies, corporations and trends blindly.

Pick one or a few of the above and you have what the average European views as the average American.

Does that answer your question?

[Dabigdtc]

Fat, stupid, lazy, fundamentalist christian, don't know anything about the world nor history nor culture, believe and follow news corporations, companies, corporations and trends blindly.

Pick one or a few of the above and you have what the average European views as the average American.

Does that answer your question?

Sadly for the most part a lot of are like that but there are some (like me) that are aware of that not many

[Iron Man]

Fat, stupid, lazy, fundamentalist christian, don't know anything about the world nor history nor culture, believe and follow news corporations, companies, corporations and trends blindly.

Pick one or a few of the above and you have what the average European views as the average American.

Does that answer your question?

Don't forget greedy imperialists that will invade a country for its oil.


As said in the title I just want to know how other people think of us?

Judging by the title, I would say...bad spellers.

[Haufen]

Don't forget greedy imperialists that will invade a country for its oil.

Yep.


Judging by the title, I would say...bad spellers.

Ahh I forgot that: Americans seem to be worse with spelling English than people who are non-native English speakers.
That's really sad.

[Dabigdtc]

Don't forget greedy imperialists that will invade a country for its oil.




Judging by the title, I would say...bad spellers.

Funny you'd say that when you (European countries) took over Australia, wiped out the native Mexicans, colonised the rest of North America, and how could we forget starting both World Wars. So yeah look out the real meaning of imperialist..

By the way that was an auto correct on the title

[Iron Man]

Funny you'd say that when you (European countries) took over Australia, wiped out the native Mexicans, colonised the rest of North America, and how could we forget starting both World Wars. So yeah look out the real meaning of imperialist..

By the way that was an auto correct on the title

Are you referring to me? I am an American, and I'm pretty sure that I know the meaning of imperialist. I wasn't in high school for 4 years for my health, you know.

[Mob Boss]

Wow...This thread is going to be awful. -_-

[Dabigdtc]

Wow...This thread is going to be awful. -_-

Hey I was only stating that we aren't technically imperial but I agree that a lot of us are just like they said

[Iron Man]

Hey I was only stating that we aren't technically imperial but I agree that a lot of us are just like they said

You also did state "what do other countries think of the U.S.?"

[Mob Boss]

Hey I was only stating that we aren't technically imperial but I agree that a lot of us are just like they said

I agree. I'm by no means proud to live here, actually quite the opposite, but I was raised here and it is somewhat ingrained in me to stand up for my home. I'm not saying the stereotypes aren't true, and I'm not saying the government makes any sense whatsoever, and I'm not saying we're not war-hungry, gun-carrying, simple-minded people. But it is my home, and I have to live with the way people view us because, obviously, one person can't change the way millions view us.

[Infinityslam]

Stereotype (if that's spelled correctly) of the USA: Fat, lazy people. I've been in Florida once and there the 'fat' part is correct, but probably not in the whole country.

The average somebody that goes to school in the USA knows (a lot) less than in (for example where I live) in Belgium. My cousin didn't pass the tests for doctor in Belgium, but easily did it in the USA. This is some of the many things I think about the USA, of course there are good things too, but sure there are bad thinks we think about you ;P

[Haufen]

Funny you'd say that when you (European countries) took over Australia, wiped out the native Mexicans, colonised the rest of North America, and how could we forget starting both World Wars. So yeah look out the real meaning of imperialist..

There are several problems with this statement.

The first, when all those events happened, we weren't born yet, while the wars America is fighting happen right now, therefore they are not comparable.

The second is that in those times, those things were seen as acceptable by almost everyone that's just the way it was back then, but the wars America is fighting now, are generally not seen as acceptable or legitimate, therefore they are not comparable.

Third problem is that, for example, the wiping out of the natives in America is not really related to Europeans nowadays, because the descendants of those who did that, are you, Americans. Therefore your ancestors, not ours, are guilty for what happened in America.

[Dabigdtc]

There are several problems with this statement.

The first, when all those events happened, we weren't born yet, while the wars America is fighting happen right now, therefore they are not comparable.

The second is that in those times, those things were seen as acceptable by almost everyone that's just the way it was back then, but the wars America is fighting now, are generally not seen as acceptable or legitimate, therefore they are not comparable.

Third problem is that, for example, the wiping out of the natives in America is not really related to Europeans nowadays, because the descendants of those who did that, are you, Americans. Therefore your ancestors, not ours, are guilty for what happened in America.

You do realize that our ancestors were British (the white population of USA 74%)... I said native Mexican very different people but to be fair that was mostly Spain at first. And after we became independent then we forced out the natives that resided in the what we know today as USA

[FreeFall]

What? It's no secret that other countries do not fancy us very much.

Let's see; fat, lazy, aggressive, hateful, egotists, stupid, entitled, selfish, we all have guns, we all have knives, teen parents in every home, unhygienic, cousin marriages in every town, New York is where you'll be mugged everyday and there are pimps on every road,cops hate everyone, schools aren't for learning, we marry so we can be abusive to or significant other in private, hyper sexualized, the government's out to screw everyone over. There's more.

Just watch enough foreign films and you'll see, or their media even.

[Professional Russian]

Don't forget greedy imperialists that will invade a country for its oil.

We did not invade Iraq for we invaded to get the most wanted manin the world and we got him


Fat, stupid, lazy, fundamentalist christian, don't know anything about the world nor history nor culture, believe and follow news corporations, companies, corporations and trends blindly.

Fat stupid and lazy? Stupid maybe but fat and lazy id love to see you try to do my job. I dont follow news companys they make everything look like its a bad thing. and i dont follow anything that i dont believe in. im an atheist so i cant be christian. We know more about the world than alot of people. we dont really care about other cultures atleast i dont.

[WaffleSingSong]

In all honesty, as a Russian and Japanese American, Russians despise the American government while the Japanese love it (even though Russia's government is WAY worse). However, both countries love the American people! But, in all sense, when nations become world superpowers, there going to have haters no matter what they do. Many people hated the U.K during the 18-20th centuries because it was so powerful. Now, everyone is starting to love them. I'm sure that the U.S will evolve into the same way as the U.K soon enough, and then everyone else will hate on the other new superpower.

[Iron Man]

We did not invade Iraq for we invaded to get the most wanted manin the world and we got him

Oh, please tell me you aren't one of those....Anyway, was Bin Laden in Iraq? Nope. Did he have any association with Iraq? Nope. Where was he found? Abbottabad, Pakistan.

Please check your facts next time. *casually sips an Orange Julius*

[WaffleSingSong]

We did not invade Iraq for we invaded to get the most wanted manin the world and we got him

And we had to invade an entire country and turn it into our puppet in order to get him? Why could'nt we just hire an assassin? Besides, Osama was Saudi, not Iraqi. And why then did we not invade Saudi Arabia? Oh yeah, they have a half-decent Army!

[Professional Russian]

In all honesty, as a Russian and Japanese American, Russians despise the American government while the Japanese love it (even though Russia's government is WAY worse). However, both countries love the American people! But, in all sense, when nations become world superpowers, there going to have haters no matter what they do. Many people hated the U.K during the 18-20th centuries because it was so powerful. Now, everyone is starting to love them. I'm sure that the U.S will evolve into the same way as the U.K soon enough, and then everyone else will hate on the other new superpower.

Everyone hates the american government i hate the american government and im american.

Oh, please tell me you aren't one of those....Anyway, was Bin Laden in Iraq? Nope. Did he have any association with Iraq? Nope. Where was he found? Abbottabad, Pakistan.

Please check your facts next time. *casually sips an Orange Julius*

He was in iraq for awhile. we followed bin laden through all the countries he was in we didnt invade for oil.


And we had to invade an entire country and turn it into our puppet in order to get him? Why could'nt we just hire an assassin? Besides, Osama was Saudi, not Iraqi. And why then did we not invade Saudi Arabia? Oh yeah, they have a half-decent Army!

We tried assassins they didnt work. but bin laden was in iraq.

[Iron Man]

He was in iraq for awhile. we followed bin laden through all the countries he was in we didnt invade for oil.

Technically, we invaded because Saddam Hussein was "supposedly harboring" WMDS. None were found, and neither was Bin Laden. Was there evidence that Bin Laden was there/had ties to Hussein?

[Professional Russian]

Technically, we invaded because Saddam Hussein was "supposedly harboring" WMDS. None were found, and neither was Bin Laden. Was there evidence that Bin Laden was there/had ties to Hussein?

Yeah there were sightings of him in the mountains

[Iron Man]

Yeah there were sightings of him in the mountains

I am going to need a little more than "yep, we saw him, so he was there". Do you have specific links that support that?

[WaffleSingSong]

Everyone hates the american government i hate the american government and im american.



He was in iraq for awhile. we followed bin laden through all the countries he was in we didnt invade for oil.




We tried assassins they didnt work. but bin laden was in iraq.

Not everyone hates our government. If they did, we would not trade with almost no nations at all. And again, every Japanese that I have met said that they like the U.S.

And besides, We still did not have to turn an entire nation into our puppet just to kill him. We easily did that with a group of S.E.A.L's. And that was a one-time assassination attempt on a guy who was not even popular yet. When 9/11 happened, did we send an assassin then? No.

[Professional Russian]

I am going to need a little more than "yep, we saw him, so he was there". Do you have specific links that support that?

OH im sorry he was sighted in Afghanistan. Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_of_Osama_bin_Laden#2001)

[Iron Man]

OH im sorry he was sighted in Afghanistan. Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_of_Osama_bin_Laden#2001)

Thats more like it. I was gonna say, you would be completely crazy if you thought Bin Laden was roaming Iraq, and we invaded under the guise of "WMDS".

[WaffleSingSong]

OH im sorry he was sighted in Afghanistan. Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_of_Osama_bin_Laden#2001)

So? We still invaded Afghanistan for one foreign man. Thats like not letting an entire classroom go to recess because one student not even in that classroom done something to another. It just does not make any logical sense to do so.

But, at least you gave some information. So, I do give you that much.

[Professional Russian]

So? We still invaded Afghanistan for one foreign man. Thats like not letting an entire classroom go to recess because one student not even in that classroom done something to another. It just does not make any logical sense to do so.

But, at least you gave some information. So, I do give you that much.

He was the most wanted man in the world. he killed over 3000 innocent people. he was going to do it again

[WaffleSingSong]

He was the most wanted man in the world. he killed over 3000 innocent people. he was going to do it again

If you can give me evidence of him going to do that again, I would be a little more lenient on you. However, That still does not change the fact that we led 2 innocent countries into chaos. And also, we should of let the U.N handle that sense it was world-wide and not the U.S.

[Professional Russian]

If you can give me evidence of him going to do that again, I would be a little more lenient on you. However, That still does not change the fact that we led 2 innocent countries into chaos. And also, we should of let the U.N handle that sense it was world-wide and not the U.S.

He was a terrorist and you think he wasnt going to attack again? you must pretty damn stupid to think that.

[Dabigdtc]

If you can give me evidence of him going to do that again, I would be a little more lenient on you. However, That still does not change the fact that we led 2 innocent countries into chaos. And also, we should of let the U.N handle that sense it was world-wide and not the U.S.

We treated it as a reaction to an attack on US soil which we blamed all middle eastern terrorist such as with Pearl harbor we reacted overwhelmingly of coarse that ended in the US using two atomic bombs so we tend to react harshly

[Human]

not good overall, but that's the majority of the USA, there are exceptions :P

[Haufen]

You do realize that our ancestors were British (the white population of USA 74%)...

Thanks for confirming that Americans really are morons and that they can't read their own language properly.

[WaffleSingSong]

He was a terrorist and you think he wasnt going to attack again? you must pretty damn stupid to think that.

What reason was there to attack? Al Queda dwindled in power soon after 9/11. All they were, and especially now, are just thugs. I do not think he could pull of something as great as 9/11.

[insanity]

maybe I am just naive or something, but when I think of america I think of food. Like you have so much of this stuff thats like dream food.. I remember as a little girl sitting on the computer with my brother drooling over all these ben and jerry flavoured icecream with all theese insane flavours. You have all these random as things like twinkies and poptarts. A kid in my class once went to the usa and brought back a Twinkie we all had like a crumb.. it was magical...

[WaffleSingSong]

maybe I am just naive or something, but when I think of america I think of food. Like you have so much of this stuff thats like dream food.. I remember as a little girl sitting on the computer with my brother drooling over all these ben and jerry flavoured icecream with all theese insane flavours. You have all these random as things like twinkies and poptarts. A kid in my class once went to the usa and brought back a Twinkie we all had like a crumb.. it was magical...

Eh, All of it is just over-fattened food from corporatism :P

And, personally, Twinkies taste terrible :P

[FreeFall]

maybe I am just naive or something, but when I think of america I think of food. Like you have so much of this stuff thats like dream food.. I remember as a little girl sitting on the computer with my brother drooling over all these ben and jerry flavoured icecream with all theese insane flavours. You have all these random as things like twinkies and poptarts. A kid in my class once went to the usa and brought back a Twinkie we all had like a crumb.. it was magical...
Twinkies <3 I'm so lucky I have a fast metabolism, I've no worry of being fat yet so I can down those babies.

But I suppose we have a lot of food, not healthy for you, tasty yes, but I do see this being true.

[Skyhawk]

Well a lot of the country is fat because unhealthy foods are cheap, in many poor parts of the country all there is to eat is junk food.

This thread is starting to turn downhill, correct?

[Neptune]

Why do people create threads like this? Why do you care what other countries think of us? To answer your question, the general feelings (or at-least the feelings that I've seen) are that Americans are arrogant, lazy, fat and uneducated which is true for a lot of us Americans (not all of us, though. America wouldn't be where it is today if it was true for everyone.)

[Cicero]

Go Italy! Yeah! Woot woot for Italy and their generous, awesome people who invented awesome clothing, cars, women, food, and organized crime! Woohoo for extortion and scare tactics (lol jk :P)

[Sudds3]

From what I know, we are amongst the worst ranked in English. How to properly form and dissect sentences, so pretty much grammar. Other countries have their own language to speak in, but then they learn English perfectly and grow up without any slang terms like we do, then we think that the slang is proper, or just are too lazy to use the correct form.

[Iron Man]

From what I know, we are amongst the worst ranked in English. How to properly form and dissect sentences, so pretty much grammar. Other countries have their own language to speak in, but then they learn English perfectly and grow up without any slang terms like we do, then we think that the slang is proper, or just are too lazy to use the correct form.

For instance, YOLO, any word that isn't supposed to have a "z" at the end of it (niggaz, playaz, etc.), improper use of your, you're (it isn't hard, seriously.), and "k.

[Dabigdtc]

From what I know, we are amongst the worst ranked in English. How to properly form and dissect sentences, so pretty much grammar. Other countries have their own language to speak in, but then they learn English perfectly and grow up without any slang terms like we do, then we think that the slang is proper, or just are too lazy to use the correct form.

Look up the real ranking, other than math, we pretty close to Europe depending on the country. Also English we know is not considered to be the same language. Hence, choosing "English (USA)" on language settings.

For instance, YOLO, any word that isn't supposed to have a "z" at the end of it (niggaz, playaz, etc.), improper use of your, you're (it isn't hard, seriously.), and "k.

YOLO is an acronym for "you only live once" and putting" z" at the end of a word is to show you saying that way the person would know how to spell it correctly.

[MisterSix]

We did not invade Iraq for we invaded to get the most wanted man in the world and we got him


He was the most wanted man in America, not the world.
And if he was the most wanted man in the world, why not let Interpol deal with him. They are the 'International Police', after all.


I think America is too up itself. They wont let us forget things like the World Trade Center or Pan Am Flight 103.
But I bet you 7 July 2005 holds no significance to many/any Americans.

You also write your dates strangely.
DAY/MONTH/YEAR is much more logical than MONTH/DAY/YEAR

But you do make good movies sometimes

[Dabigdtc]

He was the most wanted man in America, not the world.
And if he was the most wanted man in the world, why not let Interpol deal with him. They are the 'International Police', after all.


I think America is too up itself. They wont let us forget things like the World Trade Center or Pan Am Flight 103.
But I bet you 7 July 2005 holds no significance to many/any Americans.

You also write your dates strangely.
DAY/MONTH/YEAR is much more logical than MONTH/DAY/YEAR

But you do make good movies sometimes

London bombings 52 dead 700 injured

9/11 aka world trade center 3000 dead 6000 injured

There's some difference but both were terrible events

[Mysterious Skin]

Every country had it's faults, but in the end it's the people that make up that country that really matter. You can't judge a country based on the actions of political leaders anyway... That's like saying one person in a classroom likes Maths so everybody else does.

Back to the point.
I like the US, you have some amazing things on offer. So I will be visiting in the near future :)

[Magus]

I hate its foreign policies and it's militaristic snobbery.

[MisterSix]

London bombings 52 dead 700 injured

9/11 aka world trade center 3000 dead 6000 injured

There's some difference but both were terrible events

I think you missed my point.
11/9 was about 11 years ago and Flight 103 was 24ish years ago, yet every year you guys go on about it so freakn much...
Yet things like 7/7 and the boxing day tsunami are seldom talked about.

[Magus]

London bombings 52 dead 700 injured

9/11 aka world trade center 3000 dead 6000 injured

There's some difference but both were terrible events

Hiroshima. 70, 000 died. A densely populated area with the affected still suffering.

[Iron Man]

...putting" z" at the end of a word is to show you saying that way the person would know how to spell it correctly.

...Can I buy some pot from you?

[Dabigdtc]

...Can I buy some pot from you?

"Drugs are bad, m'kay"

[Irishboy15]

London bombings 52 dead 700 injured

9/11 aka world trade center 3000 dead 6000 injured

There's some difference but both were terrible events

Well what about Saturday 15th August 1998, a terrible tragedy which killed a higher percentage of people than either of those two.

However to answer the question, the thing most people here hate about the Americans is their obnoxiousness. While most Americans think they are the greatest country in the world, they are 46th in the world for literacy, 16th in global employment rates and 19th in GPD, and yet Americans still appear to believe they are the greatest in the world.

[Professional Russian]

He was the most wanted man in America, not the world.
And if he was the most wanted man in the world, why not let Interpol deal with him. They are the 'International Police', after all.

the world's most wanted man

Source (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17907764)

"Drugs are bad, m'kay"

OK Mr.Mackey

[Abigballofdust]

We did not invade Iraq for we invaded to get the most wanted manin the world and we got him

No you didn't. Right.

Anyways, on topic. I don't like the mentality of the people there and would probably never move. I like the country touristically though and am planning to visit it asap.

[FreeFall]

I think America is too up itself. They wont let us forget things like the World Trade Center or Pan Am Flight 103.
But I bet you 7 July 2005 holds no significance to many/any Americans
Because those were days that forever changed our lives and way of life, I remember watching the news about 103 and the poor Scottish people's homes it fell on. You'd be surprised at how many people around me are aware of what happened in London that day too. The church my parents go to just had a moment of prayer for it last month. But really, half of my generation only cares about England due to the royal family. It's very shallow of them/us. I feel confident enough to say to you that in, maybe, 30 years no one's going to care about any of that anymore, because the new apple/high tech product of that time will have our minds rolling. The younger generations already have no feelings about 9/11 while those of us who were in 2nd grade hiding under desks as parents came to collect us because they had no idea where that other plane was, probably always will.
We really do have our heads up our butts though. It annoys us too, it's like a vicious cycle.

[Puma_concolor]

If you can give me evidence of him going to do that again, I would be a little more lenient on you. However, That still does not change the fact that we led 2 innocent countries into chaos. And also, we should of let the U.N handle that sense it was world-wide and not the U.S.

I have to intervene here and say there was nothing innocent or peaceful about Afghanistan. The Taliban took over villages and the people lived in fear. And if you don't think the UN isn't pretty much controlled by the US, look over the way things go a little better.

I am sincerely begging you Johnny, please use better grammar, you're not helping our cause.

To all the Americans who hate the US, you're part of the problem. You'll whine about everything and criticize the country instead of trying to fix it. If that's not lazy I don't know what is.

[Sdb53]

Other countries even conservatives in other countries hate our republican (conservative) party. The united Kingdom's prime minister is a conservative and wants Obama re-elected and Angela merkel the chancellor of Germany is conservative and wants Obama re-elected. The approval rating of the United States in Germany during the bush administration was 15% now they conducted a poll and found over 80% approve of the USA and 90% of Germans want Obama re-elected.

[World Eater]

To quote Katt Williams from the Pimp Chronicles Pt. 1..."What the fuck are we still doing in Iraq, have we killed everyone? That's why I love America, we are some goddamn bullies! We don't give a shit!" It's so true...lol.

For the most part a lot of countries hate us and they have good reasons. I don't understand how people (American or not) can still consider we're a superpower. To me, we have way too many problems. Our golden years are long gone, but who knows maybe we'll return to the big stage or we'll just resort back into an isolationist country. I prefer the latter :p

Oh and here's a list of future/potential superpowers [as stated by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_superpowers :p]
1. Russia
2. Brazil
3. India
4. China
5. European Union

...eh...

[WaffleSingSong]

To quote Katt Williams from the Pimp Chronicles Pt. 1..."What the fuck are we still doing in Iraq, have we killed everyone? That's why I love America, we are some goddamn bullies! We don't give a shit!" It's so true...lol.

For the most part a lot of countries hate us and they have good reasons. I don't understand how people (American or not) can still consider we're a superpower. To me, we have way too many problems. Our golden years are long gone, but who knows maybe we'll return to the big stage or we'll just resort back into an isolationist country. I prefer the latter :p

Oh and here's a list of future/potential superpowers [as stated by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_superpowers :p]
1. Russia
2. Brazil
3. India
4. China
5. European Union

...eh...

Can the European Union be called a superpower? I mean, its not really a nation...

...And where is South Africa on there? It's also rising very quickly in the continent of Africa.

[Puma_concolor]

Can the European Union be called a superpower? I mean, its not really a nation...

...And where is South Africa on there? It's also rising very quickly in the continent of Africa.

Because they need ships and helicopters. Somalia would steal them and shoot them down. Somalia doesn't give a fuck about ships or helicopters.

[World Eater]

Can the European Union be called a superpower? I mean, its not really a nation...

...And where is South Africa on there? It's also rising very quickly in the continent of Africa.

European Union: Yeah, but it is a confederation of 27 nations, (I think Croatia is going to join next year) so it respects and protects the interests of those nations (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

As for South Africa, I don't know to much about it because we NEVER get into it in our history classes and when we do, it's at the end of the year during exams and everyone is more concerned about the clock than the history...

[WaffleSingSong]

Because they need ships and helicopters. Somalia would steal them and shoot them down. Somalia doesn't give a fuck about ships or helicopters.

...When Did I start talking about Somalia? And besides, Somalia is pure anarchy. Even the self-declared state of Somaliland that takes over it's northern half is more stable than what Somalia 100% owns without-a-doubt.

[Professional Russian]

I am sincerely begging you Johnny, please use better grammar, you're not helping our cause.

Heres the deal you stop calling me johnny and ill use better grammar. ok?


To all the Americans who hate the US, you're part of the problem. You'll whine about everything and criticize the country instead of trying to fix it. If that's not lazy I don't know what is.

No, to all Americans that hate the US get the fuck out this country and go somewhere else. If your not going to help go to the country you want and help them. dont bitch and complain about the US infact i do believe that is called treason

[darkwoon]

As said in the title I just want to know how other people think of us?
Imperialists that love to rewrite history, live only for money, and are blind to the mere existence of foreign cultures.

Oh, and they can't cook.

[Professional Russian]

Imperialists that love to rewrite history, live only for money, and are blind to the mere existence of foreign cultures.

Oh, and they can't cook.

We are not imperialists and we know how to cook... atleast some of us do

[Jean Poutine]

dont bitch and complain about the US infact i do believe that is called treason

It's called free speech.

[Professional Russian]

It's called free speech.

yeah it is free speech i believe it is also called treason which i think is a federal offense. Anyone bitches and complains about the US that doesnt help The US needs to either be deported or kicked out.

[darkwoon]

We are not imperialists and we know how to cook... atleast some of us do
Just to make it clear: this is how people around me (and yes, myself included) perceive the US as a whole. There are - fortunately - a lot of nice US citizens who can perfectly cook, consider the foreign policy of their own country with a very critical eye, etc. But the question was not about individuals - it was about the nation as a whole.

As for your claim of "not being imperialists", sorry, but I'm firmly convinced the largest part of the non-US world would have a rather different opinion. :)

[Jean Poutine]

yeah it is free speech i believe it is also called treason which i think is a federal offense. Anyone bitches and complains about the US that doesnt help The US needs to either be deported or kicked out.

No. Treason as an offense is located at 18 USC § 2381 and only includes declaring war or aiding its enemies (which, logically, applies only in time of war).

You're confusing treason with sedition which is no longer an offense. The Sedition Act expired more than 200 years ago.

[Professional Russian]

Just to make it clear: this is how people around me (and yes, myself included) perceive the US as a whole. There are - fortunately - a lot of nice US citizens who can perfectly cook, consider the foreign policy of their own country with a very critical eye, etc. But the question was not about individuals - it was about the nation as a whole.

As for your claim of "not being imperialists", sorry, but I'm firmly convinced the largest part of the non-US world would have a rather different opinion. :)

Ok well i dont consider the US imperialists we dont invade countries for resources. we all ready went over this.

No. Treason as an offense is located at 18 USC § 2381 and only includes declaring war or aiding its enemies (which, logically, applies only in time of war).

You're confusing treason with sedition which is no longer an offense. The Sedition Act expired more than 200 years ago.

Damn i should of known that we learned that in 7th grade

[xXCrazyBoyXx]

I have no idea :/

[Magus]

I have no idea :/

I will give you a hint: interfering with other countries' affair.

[World Eater]

Ok well i dont consider the US imperialists we dont invade countries for resources. we all ready went over this.

Yeah we were imperialists dude (I'm 90% sure we still are, but I don't care). Still don't believe anyone though? Well, we kicked Native Americans out of their lands thanks to Andrew Jackson. Also, under Teddy Roosevelt we took over the Philippines. We also did whatever we could to stop communism from spreading, mainly during the Korean and Vietnam Wars (the latter of which, marked the beginning of our downfall over the past few decades). I'm sure I've missed some things, but I believe people can give out some more/better examples than myself.

[Puma_concolor]

yeah it is free speech i believe it is also called treason which i think is a federal offense. Anyone bitches and complains about the US that doesnt help The US needs to either be deported or kicked out.

That violates one's constitutional rights. Treason is betraying one's nation with the intent to harm it. Criticism is not a bad thing, quite the opposite. You habe to seriously consider every aspect of something before you say it can be done. Once you finish the more 11th grade I can almost guarantee you will have a different opinion on things, you learn all. about the US (at least in California). Read 'The Prince' by Niccoló Machiavelli and 'Crime And Punishment' by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

[Professional Russian]

That violates one's constitutional rights. Treason is betraying one's nation with the intent to harm it. Criticism is not a bad thing, quite the opposite. You habe to seriously consider every aspect of something before you say it can be done. Once you finish the more 11th grade I can almost guarantee you will have a different opinion on things, you learn all. about the US (at least in California). Read 'The Prince' by Niccoló Machiavelli and 'Crime And Punishment' by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Im already reading a book

[SnackThatSmilesBack]

Funny you'd say that when you (European countries) took over Australia, wiped out the native Mexicans, colonised the rest of North America, and how could we forget starting both World Wars. So yeah look out the real meaning of imperialist..

By the way that was an auto correct on the title

Mexicans!! The hell! Dude ain't no mexicans in australia.....

Imperialists that love to rewrite history, live only for money, and are blind to the mere existence of foreign cultures.

Oh, and they can't cook.

Ima Canadian, and I agree with that
K see If you've lived in Canada All your life you know that:
We don't live in Igloos
We have malls
We don't go along in dogsleds
We have a WAYY better economy than the US
We have some of the best military forces in the world ( Casualties in Afghanistan: a lil over 100- US Casualties in Iraq- Lil over 6000)
We Can (And Do) Supply the world with oil, gas, lumber, and food
So....Americans R alot different than us.............Also wanna know something....I can and hve convinced 7 americans my age all the way to 36 that we live in igloos..

That violates one's constitutional rights. Treason is betraying one's nation with the intent to harm it. Criticism is not a bad thing, quite the opposite. You habe to seriously consider every aspect of something before you say it can be done. Once you finish the more 11th grade I can almost guarantee you will have a different opinion on things, you learn all. about the US (at least in California). Read 'The Prince' by Niccoló Machiavelli and 'Crime And Punishment' by Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Question..did you learn about any countries oter than the US in high school or junior high

[Magus]

Question..did you learn about any countries oter than the US in high school or junior high

From what it looks like, they don't.

Six year olds will probably think America is the center of the earth.

At that age, I learned about each and every country. Their history, religion, affiliation, cultural difference, traditions, GDP, Exports and Imports, Capitals cities, languages, basic laws, feuds with other countries, flags, borders, relation with other countries, landmarks, forest reserve, the flora and fauna and I can go on. Just the important points of that countries.

I had something called an Atlas. I wonder if most Americans know what that is.

I bet they have a map that shows every aspect of a map of America. And for the rest of the world something like this.

Europe: lazy chickens.

Middle Eart: Sand people and Camel and terrorists.

South East Asia: Empty Islands

Africa: lazy AIDS ridden black people.


It's just hilarious how some American people are ignorant.

We already have couple of people just like that in this very thread.

[Puma_concolor]

From what it looks like, they don't.

Six year olds will probably think America is the center of the earth.

At that age, I learned about each and every country. Their history, religion, affiliation, cultural difference, traditions, GDP, Exports and Imports, Capitals cities, languages, basic laws, feuds with other countries, flags, borders, relation with other countries, landmarks, forest reserve, the flora and fauna and I can go on. Just the important points of that countries.

I had something called an Atlas. I wonder if most Americans know what that is.

I bet they have a map that shows every aspect of a map of America. And for the rest of the world something like this.

Europe: lazy chickens.

Middle Eart: Sand people and Camel and terrorists.

South East Asia: Empty Islands

Africa: lazy AIDS ridden black people.


It's just hilarious how some American people are ignorant.

We already have couple of people just like that in this very thread.

I learned that my sophomore year in High School. What an ironic comment, as if that whole post wasn't ignorant? We think of some Europeans as arrogant bastards. We already have a couple people just like that in this thread.

Question..did you learn about any countries oter than the US in high school or junior high

Yes. Our population is so large it makes it hard to find a real "majority". I'm a very worldly and cultured person, not too unusual for our generation here. We were taught about Capitals, GDP, Languages, Religion, etc. In the 10th grade along with the history of Democracy, Communism, French & Russian Revolutions, general history of wars... 11th grade is US History and really isn't biased, more critical on some issues like Vietnam & Civil Rights. Senior year is Government 1st semester and Economics 2nd semester.

I've been to Canada several times, I go up every year, my family has been 31 years now to go fishing for a week on the Trent Severn in Ontario.

tl;dr
Fuck you we'll do what we want

[Levy]

Who cares? We are 'MERICA!!!

[Professional Russian]

We have some of the best military forces in the world ( Casualties in Afghanistan: a lil over 100- US Casualties in Iraq- Lil over 6000)


THats you have smaller military than the US.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

France? They think of us as traitorous. Iran? As the crusaders. Russia? Probably thinking we're Democratic SOBs.

[Magus]

I learned that my sophomore year in High School. What an ironic comment, as if that whole post wasn't ignorant? We think of some Europeans as arrogant bastards. We already have a couple people just like that in this thread.

Kudos to those arrogant bastards. At least they know the difference between Muslims and Arabs, or other sorts of combinations, where public schooled Americans will have a tough time to differentiate.

Fuck you we'll do what we want
Well, staying ignorant is a choice after all. :yes:

I'm a very worldly and cultured person, not too unusual for our generation here.

Huh, I indeed thought you were a dying breed. I was quite impressed when you mentioned Niccolò Machiavelli a moment earlier. Forgive my blunder.

But you know, I was referencing to other kinds of people, like your gun loving friend, Johnny boy, who suprisingly doesn't even know the history of the nation he resides and so loves to death.

Huh, I am reading another book. Doesn't he realise he can get it right here and now (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1232.epub.noimages), free of charge?


France? They think of us as traitorous. Iran? As the crusaders. Russia? Probably thinking we're Democratic SOBs.

You do know about the US military bases that has surrounded Iran, now, don't you?

And, you do know Russia is a democratic country, now?

That's, what I am talking about my dear friend, Puma.

[Professional Russian]

But you know, I was referencing to other kinds of people, like your gun loving friend, Johnny boy, who suprisingly doesn't even know the history of the nation he resides and so loves to death.

Huh, I am reading another book. Doesn't he realise he can get it right here and now (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1232.epub.noimages), free of charge?

I do know the history. the real question is do i give a fuck and that answer would be no. And stop fucking calling me johnny god damn it.

[Lolli]

Alot of American tragedies are known about before they happen and not prevented
If America is a brilliant as made out why didn't they stop them?

[FreeFall]

Alot of American tragedies are known about before they happen and not prevented
If America is a brilliant as made out why didn't they stop them?
Because there seems to be a ton of "give the benefit of the doubt" unicorns here. Even we're dumbfounded about that.

[Puma_concolor]

Kudos to those arrogant bastards. At least they know the difference between Muslims and Arabs, or other sorts of combinations, where public schooled Americans will have a tough time to differentiate.


Well, staying ignorant is a choice after all. :yes:



Huh, I indeed thought you were a dying breed. I was quite impressed when you mentioned Niccolò Machiavelli a moment earlier. Forgive my blunder.

But you know, I was referencing to other kinds of people, like your gun loving friend, Johnny boy, who suprisingly doesn't even know the history of the nation he resides and so loves to death.

Huh, I am reading another book. Doesn't he realise he can get it right here and now (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1232.epub.noimages), free of charge?




You do know about the US military bases that has surrounded Iran, now, don't you?

And, you do know Russia is a democratic country, now?

That's, what I am talking about my dear friend, Puma.


Hopefully he'll grow out of it. I'm treading on thin ice right now, so I'll leave it at that.

Russia may be democratic, but it is incredibly unstable. Iran brought everything on itself; this is the United States - we aren't exactly known for responding calmly through diplomatic means to those who piss us off.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

I forget its not like the Soviet Union XD

[darkwoon]

Yes. Our population is so large it makes it hard to find a real "majority". I'm a very worldly and cultured person, not too unusual for our generation here. We were taught about Capitals, GDP, Languages, Religion, etc. In the 10th grade along with the history of Democracy, Communism, French & Russian Revolutions, general history of wars... 11th grade is US History and really isn't biased, more critical on some issues like Vietnam & Civil Rights. Senior year is Government 1st semester and Economics 2nd semester.
The issue is not that you haven't learned all those things at school - I believe there are rather complete history courses in most US schools just as in France.

The real issue is that most US citizens only know history from that single point of view - theirs. In Europe - unless you're stupid and/or extremist (and believe me, we've a lot of those), you are very likely to hear slightly different versions of history. I've learned about WWII in the school history course; but I've also met and heard people from Germany, England, or Italy, and they all have a different point of view. Historical facts are always the same - but how you present it, how you weight everyone of them, that changes depending on the cultural background. And that's what most Americans were never exposed at. To say it with different words: every US citizen knows about Washington, but how many remember Roderigue Hortalez & Co ?

France? They think of us as traitorous.
I'm French, and I've never heard that. Most French (and I'd bet that's true from most of Western Europe) seem to relate the average US citizen to a kind of gun-wearing Homer Simpson: fat, ignorant of good manners, and lacking elementary common knowledge and culture. A caricature? Of course - but that's indeed what a lot think. And most American tourists are definitely not helping changing this perception, either.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

I heard of it from my brother in 12th grade. We fought the revolutionary war with France and something in France snapped soon after apparently causing that opinion.

[World Eater]

I heard of it from my brother in 12th grade. We fought the revolutionary war with France and something in France snapped soon after apparently causing that opinion.

A few years after we were established as a new country, France had it's own little revolution, thanks in part to it's own nobility and clergy estates that taxed the shit out of the commoner estate and also kept it powerless. They had to increase the tax so they could help us beat the British [someone correct me if I'm wrong it's been about two or three years since I learned this ^^;]

Anyway, so France abolishes it's monarchy through a bloody revolution, kills a few hundred thousand people, paves the way to democracy, until Napoleon Bonaparte staged a coup and then the government elects him as Emperor. Napoleon kicks ass for at least a decade, taking over much of Europe and following the Battle of Austerlitz the Russian Czar said "We are like babies in the hands of a giant." But he messes up after invading Russia (Don't ever fuck with General Winter kids -_-)

Then he's dethroned, exiled, escapes from exile, proclaims himself Emperor again, loses at Waterloo and exiled again. I know you didn't ask for all that, but felt like I should give ya a bit of a history on it. And again sorry if I missed anything or messed up somewhere guys.

[WaffleSingSong]

And, you do know Russia is a democratic country, now?


I'm from Russia, And even though we might be a Republic, we are a very Authoritarian one. It's getting better, but still, all we do is elect which dictator will run us. Mendeleev was the only breath, even though slightly tainted, of real freedom we ever had. Now, Putin is back on the seat. And, well, He is like the Russian George Bush Jr, to put you on how he is precieved.

[Haufen]

blablabla

>my face when I find myself agreeing and nodding at everything you said

I'm from Russia.

>is from Russia
>can't spell Medvedev
>Doesn't understand Medvedev was pretty much a puppet of Putin

Also, a republic doesn't have to be a democracy, though in the case of Russia (and most other republics) it is.

[WaffleSingSong]

>my face when I find myself agreeing and nodding at everything you said



>is from Russia
>can't spell Medvedev
>Doesn't understand Medvedev was pretty much a puppet of Putin

Also, a republic doesn't have to be a democracy, though in the case of Russia (and most other republics) it is.

Yes, I do not know how to spell Medvedev. The only Russian name I can spell is my own XD

And I know he was Putin's marionette, but you can tell he was a little bit more libertarian than the former.

And, yes, Like I said, It is a Republic, and it is Democratic. However, they still run quite strict, much like a dictator. Even though again, We are getting better at it. One of the main reasons my family moved is because it still runs like a dictatorship in some aspects despite the fact that it's some-what decentralized.

[Dabigdtc]

People from other countries don't realize that the laws and schooling and nearly everything that deals with individuals is controlled by state government. So, say you didn't learn about something in New York you may learn it in Texas. Also, people from the different states tend to be very different. For example, in Texas you have to be 18 to marry without parent consent but Cross into Georgia and the age is 16 (this may have changed. States have most of the power when comes things personal like that. For example, in Texas you have to be 18 to marry without parent consent but Cross into Georgia and the age is 16 (this may have changed). So keep that in mind i asked about the whole country not States. Also, people from the different states tend to be very different.

[darkwoon]

People from other countries don't realize that the laws and schooling and nearly everything that deals with individuals is controlled by state government.
Surprizingly, most actually do. And they also compare that to their own national and supranational bodies. The conclusion is clear: there is a huge monoculture with variants spreading across the US; such a monoculture doesn't exist in Europe. Regardless if you live in Los Angeles or New York, you are familiar with Wallmart and Fox News, so to speak. I have no idea what Spanish supermarkets are, what their TV ads are, what their favourite shows can be. I don't mean "no clear idea". I really mean "zero idea at all".

What the people in the US don't realize is the difference of scale involved. You speak - quite rightly - about the gap between Texas, Georgia and New-York. But there's as much difference between Normandy and Paris, Lille and Strasbourg... The distances between cultures are much smaller. If I cross the Channel (less than one hour by train), I'm in a completely alien culture; apart maybe soccer, everything is different culturally speaking: it is as different as travelling to Russia or Greece.

So keep that in mind i asked about the whole country not States. Also, people from the different states tend to be very different.
I keep it in mind all the time. And I don't think most French would actually be able to distinguish a Georgian from a New-Yorker (or actually would care) without being told :).

[ponygon101]

Well, you guys have some rather negative opinions right up across of the border. Here in Canada, we generally find America to be: annoyingly/overly patriotic, ignorant (in the sense they know very little of other countries and their culture, even one as close as Canada), rude, lazy and fat, violent, over-glorified, conservative, very Christian and pretty much what ever you can use to describe MTV.

In my experience, all of this can be found in a cities very close to the border like Seattle and even worse as you progress farther south. I've been to my fair share of states

Now we understand that there are many Americans that aren't like this at all, but when you think America, that's what comes to mind.

[root]

It depends. The people in Hong Kong or a lot of Asian countries worship Americans. They copy american clothing style, music, tv-shows.

Countries in the Eurozone, don't really give a shit... I mean, the greeks look down on americans, I know some UK people who don't like americans either. They think Americans are stupid and only think about themselves. French and Germans tend to not have much of an opinion...or at least, not that I know of.

[Magus]

It depends. The people in Hong Kong or a lot of Asian countries worship Americans. They copy american clothing style, music, tv-shows.

It's not just Asia, middle-east, mainly the Gulf, falls into that, too.

That's American imperialism, for yah. It's conglemerate slowly exuding into other's culture forming a confused amalgam.

[Neil]

Asian guy coming through, and some of us copy your clothing styles (Yes, often we do that), and I personally and honestly think USA is one of the worlds greatest country due to the fact obama leads it very well (I'm really not sure though, I didn't really experience his reign over America), And wars and poverty are really fictional in the country, Not namely impossible but it is well taken care of, Poverty in our country has led people living under bridges, and near lakes/seas, they have nothing to eat which is completely different from there

[Haufen]

And wars and poverty are really fictional in the country, Not namely impossible but it is well taken care of, Poverty in our country has led people living under bridges, and near lakes/seas, they have nothing to eat which is completely different from there

This is totally untrue, if you really want to see no poverty, you should look at Scandinavia.

The US has a huge amount of poverty compared to most of Europe.

It's not just Asia, middle-east, mainly the Gulf, falls into that, too.

That's American imperialism, for yah. It's conglemerate slowly exuding into other's culture forming a confused amalgam.

Here too, sadly.
People even start using English words and phrases in Dutch when it's not needed at all, they think that makes them look modern/cool/educated/special while infact it makes them look like moronic sheep because every moron does it.

[All The Small Things]

hate ppl u hate us and hate ILLEGAL IMIGRATIONS :) WITCH IM PROUD OF AND HATEING PPL U WHEN LIVEING HERE NOT SPEAKING ENGLISH :) USA ROCKS AND OHTER COUNTREYS SUCK BESIDES CAN, JAPAN

[Mirage]

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