12 shot dead at 'Dark Knight Rises' screening in Aurora, Colorado

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Tragedy struck the town of Aurora, Colorado early this morning, as a gunman opened fire at a movie theater during a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises.

At the moment, 12 people are confirmed dead and 50 wounded as a result of the incident.

According to various witness accounts and police reports, the suspect tossed some kind of smoke bomb into the theater and opened fire in front of the screen. He was reportedly wearing a gas mask and a bullet proof vest and carrying at least a rifle and a handgun.

The unidentified, alleged murderer is in his early 20s, a police spokesman says, and did not put up a fight when apprehended.*

“We will do everything that we can to support the people of Aurora in this extraordinarily difficult time. As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family,” said President Obama in a statement, adding:

“All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors, and we must stand together with them in the challenging hours and days to come,” said Obama, promising he would do everything in his power to bring those responsible to justice.

“We are committed to bringing whoever was responsible to justice, ensuring the safety of our people, and caring for those who have been wounded."

Aurora is a Denver suburb and is approximately 13 miles from Littleton, Colorado, the site of the Columbine High School shooting in April 1999.

*UPDATE: The suspect has been identified as a 24-year old named James Holmes.

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[Professional Russian]

yet another reason to carry a gun. you could at fire back.

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More guns = more events like this, IMO.

[Professional Russian]

More guns = less events like because people can Defend themselves if it happens

[Fractured Silhouette]

More guns = less events like because people can Defend themselves if it happens

Or more likely shoot another innocent bystander and make the death toll higher.

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Right...that sounds totally right :rolleyes:

Personally, idc.I don't live in America, and I'm glad i don't.

[StoppingTime]

yet another reason to carry a gun. you could at fire back.

Do you not understand this? 12 people are dead, over fifty injured, some critically. They are real people, not on a screen, not in a movie. Clearly, not everyone is the hero like you are. People don't carry firearms everywhere. They should have no reason to. People aren't going to be shooting wildly if they had firearms anyway; they would do more harm than good. Even though you seem to have some obsession with guns, telling yourself they are good just proves to be wrong over and over. Here's an example. This man had three firearms, not even just one; and that's fine. It shouldn't be.
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I wish all the families the best.

[Professional Russian]

I understand it perfectly i think you are the one that does not. This isnt a game or a movie. this is real life. Think about it. if you carry a gun and you go into a place and this happens you could find cover. sure your chances of hitting him the head are slim to none but there is that little bit of a chance. There are people than bad people in the US. if all the good people in america carried guns there would be a lower murder/ crime rate. guns are an implement of self defense. i could defend my self with a knife but if someones shooting at me my chances of fighting him with a knife and living are extremly small and very unlikely. think about it...

[StoppingTime]

I'm not going to turn this thread into a debate, but I'll say this. Think about what would happen if everyone was able to have a gun. No restrictions. Just think beyond the world of yours where guns are "good." Weapons of destruction are just that, destruction. If everyone in that theater started to open fire, it would become a massacre. That's all I'm saying, because I know you won't listen anyway.

[Professional Russian]

I'm not going to turn this thread into a debate, but I'll say this. Think about what would happen if everyone was able to have a gun. No restrictions. Just think beyond the world of yours where guns are "good." Weapons of destruction are just that, destruction. If everyone in that theater started to open fire, it would become a massacre. That's all I'm saying, because I know you won't listen anyway.

I didnt say unrestricted. if everyone opened fire on that guy he would be running from the cops probaly going to do it again.

[PinkFloyd]

This is horrifying. People with everrything to live for shot dead for no reason at all. http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.

This is why I am proud I carry a Beretta 92 hand gun.

[Fractured Silhouette]

I didnt say unrestricted. if everyone opened fire on that guy

...and how many of them would be killed in the crossfire? Do you honestly think that panicking people would be able to use a weapon efficiently without hurting anyone else? Just think about this stuff...

[Professional Russian]

This is horrifying. People with everrything to live for shot dead for no reason at all. http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.

This is why I am proud I carry a Beretta 92 hand gun.

you cant legally carry plus the 92 sucks get a 1911 get something made america


...and how many of them would be killed in the crossfire? Do you honestly think that panicking people would be able to use a weapon efficiently without hurting anyone else? Just think about this stuff...

a couple people get killed in cross fire is fine. you killed the guy who would have killed more than a few in cross fire

[West Coast Sheriff]

I actually live in Denver so all that every one talks about is this shooting. It is like the end of the world where I live. I just wish those families the best.

[Evan-9]

Its definitely not the time to argue about guns. 12 are dead with 38 wounded. More could die. Its time to be respectful for those who lost their lives.

[Foamy]

RIP all those that died in this tragedy.

[Lights]

More guns = less events like because people can Defend themselves if it happens

a couple people get killed in cross fire is fine. you killed the guy who would have killed more than a few in cross fire

What if everyone carried guns and opened fire on this guy, though? Then there would be far more than 'a couple' who got killed in the cross fire. I don't really know how you can say more guns reduce problems. I know you're taking a utilitarianism approach to this dilemma, and with other dilemmas there's a good chance I would too, but it doesn't seem right in this circumstance. I just don't think you can condone people carrying guns or knives considering the risk and danger that comes with them. If people think it's okay to carry these weapons, then there's going to be a lot more incidents, not less.

This is very sad indeed. Knowing that this guy dropped out of a Medicine Degree at University only last month suggests this guy might have been suffering from some kind of depression. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy pleaded to insanity at his trial. He would have professional analysis carried out to see if he really was insane, though, so I guess it wouldn't matter if he did plead insane. I think it will be interesting to see how his trial does play out, though. I was just looking up capital punishment history, and it turns out only one person has ever been executed in the state of Colorado. As far as I can tell, the death penalty hasn't been abolished in Colorado yet, so I would think this guy is very likely to be the next one on death row. This really is disturbing what he's done, so he deserves whatever's coming to him.

[Professional Russian]

Its definitely not the time to argue about guns. 12 are dead with 38 wounded. More could die. Its time to be respectful for those who lost their lives.

One of the victims even said more people should carry guns to protect them selves from events like this


What if everyone carried guns and opened fire on this guy, though? Then there would be far more than 'a couple' who got killed in the cross fire. I don't really know how you can say more guns reduce problems. I know you're taking a utilitarianism approach to this dilemma, and with other dilemmas there's a good chance I would too, but it doesn't seem right in this circumstance. I just don't think you can condone people carrying guns or knives considering the risk and danger that comes with them. If people think it's okay to carry these weapons, then there's going to be a lot more incidents, not less.

This is very sad indeed. Knowing that this guy dropped out of a Medicine Degree at University only last month suggests this guy might have been suffering from some kind of depression. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy pleaded to insanity at his trial. He would have professional analysis carried out to see if he really was insane, though, so I guess it wouldn't matter if he did plead insane. I think it will be interesting to see how his trial does play out, though. I was just looking up capital punishment history, and it turns out only one person has ever been executed in the state of Colorado. As far as I can tell, the death penalty hasn't been abolished in Colorado yet, so I would think this guy is very likely to be the next one on death row. This really is disturbing what he's done, so he deserves whatever's coming to him.


Good people with guns are going to outnumber bad people with guns. I tried to put that in the simplest terms so that you gun hatin liberals could figure it out

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One of the victims even said more people should carry guns to protect them selves from events like this

Good people with guns are going to outnumber bad people with guns. I tried to put that in the simplest terms so that you gun hatin liberals could figure it out

Just because one of the victims said that people should carry guns to protect themselves, that doesn't mean people actually should. A response like that is likely to just be out of shock from what happened; it is far from neutral.

Even if you say it is a 'good person' who owns a gun, that doesn't mean they are a responsible, trained possessor of that gun. People panic, and when they do, they react in hasty, often thoughtless ways. Even good people make mistakes and you have to remember how dangerous these weapons are and what they're capable of. One spur of the moment decision can do an unbelievable amount of damage.

Anyway, I think we're beginning to digress a little from the topic.

[Thunduhbuhlt]

Yup, and I know people involved in this incident...very sad. I don't think carrying a gun would have been beneficial though...

[Professional Russian]

Just because one of the victims said that people should carry guns to protect themselves, that doesn't mean people actually should. A response like that is likely to just be out of shock from what happened; it is far from neutral.

Even if you say it is a 'good person' who owns a gun, that doesn't mean they are a responsible, trained possessor of that gun. People panic, and when they do, they react in hasty, often thoughtless ways. Even good people make mistakes and you have to remember how dangerous these weapons are and what they're capable of. One spur of the moment decision can do an unbelievable amount of damage.

Anyway, I think we're beginning to digress a little from the topic.

If you buy a gun to carry and you take a course which everyone should you would know exactly what to do. Fucking Liberals

Yup, and I know people involved in this incident...very sad. I don't think carrying a gun would have been beneficial though...

As long as one person could hit that magic spot it would have all been fast and he wouldnt be running. its better to kill the person than let cops get him because he'll do it again

[Lights]

If you buy a gun to carry and you take a course which everyone should you would know exactly what to do.

In theory, yes, but in reality things won't necessarily work like that. Panic and being under pressure will almost always change the way someone thinks.

[Professional Russian]

In theory, yes, but in reality things won't necessarily work like that. Panic and being under pressure will almost always change the way someone thinks.

Thats why they train you to handle that in the course ive been through them i know. im trained to do it. i know what to do plus from all the military i know they've trained me too. i do know more than the average person.

If you want to argue with me do in this Thread (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=145837)

[OregonStateDude]

Yeah, this freaked me out when I read about it this morning. What is my country coming to when you can't even go watch a movie in peace? Are they going to have pat-down searches at movie theaters now?

My mom is already somewhat over-protective anyways when it comes to me and my younger brother. So I just know she's going to over-react when she finds out about this. Probably put a tracking device on us or something. :(

[All The Small Things]

well the guy who did this is f up in the head for a lot reason probely cuz he shot a 6 year old I hope he gets the DEATH PENLETY :) (I dont care for D.C. moives anyways I never saw a real life action one in my life so I will not see this moive im a Marvel guy and Marvel better anyway

[Roses_Are_Yellow]

I woke up to this, and it was...I was like "woah" at first. It really didn't sink in until about an hour later, after I watched the news with my family. This is so sad and horrible, and stupid. Innocent people got hurt, innocent people were affected, and innocent people died in this. it makes me think, what if this was happening where I live, and my friends and family were there..if I were there? Some of my friends were at the local theater last night at around midnight, and I don't know what I would do if the shooting had taken place there. The stories from the survivors are horrible, and my heart goes out to them.

I remember one of the survivors talking about seeing a 12 year old girl, laying on the theater floor lifeless. She wasn't much younger than me, and it isn't fair that I get to live on while she got the chance taken away from her. There was also a story of a little six year old girl who got shot, and I'm really hoping that she's okay. I mean, I wished that everybody involved was okay..but that's obviously not the case.

My friend lives in Colorado, and I'm really hoping she wasn't there early this morning. I haven't heard from her, but yet again she hasn't been on Facebook since Tuesday. I doubt that she was there, since she lives miles from Aurora, but I don't know I guess I'm paranoid.

I feel so bad for everybody involved. It really isn't fair, and I guess it makes me dislike the world a little bit more then I did yesterday.

[ImCoolBeans]

Thats why they train you to handle that in the course ive been through them i know. im trained to do it. i know what to do plus from all the military i know they've trained me too. i do know more than the average person.

If you want to argue with me do in this Thread (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=145837)

Yo, on topic. Stop derailing threads.

[Magus]

Good people with guns are going to outnumber bad people with guns. I tried to put that in the simplest terms so that you gun hatin liberals could figure it out
Which is why we gun hatin liberals hate gun in the first place.if there were strict rules to carrying firearms, man shit wouldn't happen.

[Telkanis]

This is so awful and sad. I feel so bad for everyone who went to have a fun time at the movies and ended up with one of the worst horrors of their lives. This is one of the reasons I think there should be really strict gun controls. No one needs an AR-15 rifle and I don't understand the arguments against gun control but I guess that's a discussion for somewhere else.

[Sugaree]

yet another reason to carry a gun. you could at fire back.

Please. Just. Go. Away. You've turned this thread into a political discussion and politics need to be put in the fucking backseat with this. 12 people are dead, over 50 are injured, and you come in with your "carry a gun and be safe" bullshit. Next time you see a thread like this, just go on to the next thread. If you're so paranoid about having to carry a gun around on the OFF-CHANCE that someone might try to kill or injure you, why bother? Go and tell the people who've been affected by the entire thing that they should carry a gun from now on. So please, for your sake and others, just don't post anymore.

[Haufen]

...I guess he didn't like the movie.

In all seriousness though, I'm curious to his motives.
From what I understand he had a pretty bright future.

[Jess]

this is so sad. this arouses my mixed feelings on gun rights and all....

[Gaybaby94]

My thoughts go out to the families. And at the Professional Russian guy, go away. The majority of VT is for gun control. IMO, we need less trigger happy people in the world.

[Dabigdtc]

And yet it is still the most peaceful time compared to a few thousand years ago

[Sugaree]

And yet it is still the most peaceful time compared to a few thousand years ago

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

[Iron Man]

I heard about this on the news today. Truly sickening.

[Mob Boss]

This is just awful. One of the victims was a woman (a reporter I believe) that had witnessed a mall shooting previously and spoke about not knowing when or where your last breath would be taken. Very tragic, and I wish all the best to the families of the victims.

[Sleepwalking]

I cried when I found out about this, and cried again today.
I have no connection to the people or the shooting, but it is very depressing to hear about something like this.
Earlier I somehow stumbled upon some of the victims' twitters.
It was sad to see them say they were going to watch The Dark Knight, that innocent people could die because of some psycho-path.

Rest in Peace.

[HumbleBumble]

This is why people in America shouldn't be allowed to carry guns.. They can't handle it.

I don't see why the American Government doesn't see this... -.-'

[Haufen]

I don't see why the American Government doesn't see this... -.-'

Because they're Americans.
Don't try to bring logic to Americans.
People who use logic to the average American are unpatriotic atheist communist nazi muslim terrorists.

[Mob Boss]

Can we stay on topic, please? People were killed and wounded. We should be respecting them. I'm pretty sure it's not the time to bring up how bad America is, and why it isn't improving. Take that to Ramblings of The Wise.

[OregonStateDude]

Well, last night at the dinner table was somewhat emotional. Let me explain.

During the meal my dad brought up the shooting. Then my idiot brother said he still wanted to see the movie. Right away, our mom said, "you're not going". Then she looks straight at me and says, "you're not going either".

So there was this awkward silence when I was clearing away the dishes (one of my chores). My mom then apologized and said, "I just don't want to lose you guys". Then she hugged me and kissed my cheek.

Yeah, lets just say I couldn't hold back the tears at that point. Moms sure can be weird sometimes, right?

[AppealToReason]

This is why people in America shouldn't be allowed to carry guns.. They can't handle it.

Something was obviously wrong with this guy. He's not the rule, he's the fucking exception. Fuck off with your stereotyping.



Horrible event and I feel bad for all the victims and their families.

[Professional Russian]

Which is why we gun hatin liberals hate gun in the first place.if there were strict rules to carrying firearms, man shit wouldn't happen.

You dont need stricter laws you need better better better control of the insane.

My thoughts go out to the families. And at the Professional Russian guy, go away. The majority of VT is for gun control. IMO, we need less trigger happy people in the world.

We have gun control. have you ever seen a place without gun control?
We need more trigger happy people in the world. then we wouldnt have a bunch of pussies in the world wed have people that can actully defend them selves

This is why people in America shouldn't be allowed to carry guns.. They can't handle it.

I don't see why the American Government doesn't see this... -.-'

The government sees this and they cant do anything about it. nither can the U.N. because they tried and failed. "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" and theres more than 100,000,000 people behind and it wont let go. and yes american can handle guns there are few people like the guy that shot everyone. you just always hear about them. the news wants guns to look bad and they are succeeding but as you can see from the thread i post guns save lives.

[Magus]

' guns save lives.'

Nope. It doesn't. And this thread is a proof.

[Professional Russian]

' guns save lives.'

Nope. It doesn't. And this thread is a proof.

They also could have prevented this. its not proof of ting but how many pussy are in america

[Sugaree]

They also could have prevented this. its not proof of ting but how many pussy are in america

So if you don't carry a gun or prevent something from happening, that automatically makes someone a pussy? Nice generalization, Sarge.

[Neptune]

My heart goes out to the families. I can only imagine how terrible the last 43 hours have been.

[Professional Russian]

So if you don't carry a gun or prevent something from happening, that automatically makes someone a pussy? Nice generalization, Sarge.

In america today there are to many people that are to scared of guns to carry them.

[Magus]

In america today there are to many people that are to scared of guns to carry them.

How about, that they don't like to carry firearm at all.

Sounds sensible to you? I bet not.

[Sugaree]

In america today there are to many people that are to scared of guns to carry them.

And what if those people simply have no interest in having a gun? Would you say they're scared too? It's not black and white, man.

[Terrell613091]

i heard about it this morning..so sad and tragic

[OregonStateDude]

Sorry, I don't have the link, but there was some more trouble at a theater in a city near Los Angeles (same Batman movie).

Anyways, this idiot yelled about guns and Colorado and was just being an asshole. Of course the cops came and hauled him away and locked him up.

[Professional Russian]

Sorry, I don't have the link, but there was some more trouble at a theater in a city near Los Angeles (same Batman movie).

Anyways, this idiot yelled about guns and Colorado and was just being an asshole. Of course the cops came and hauled him away and locked him up.

I hope they give him the death sentence

[Jess]

I hope they give him the death sentence

wait what? give that guy a death sentence because he yelled about guns and Colorado? :confused:

[Professional Russian]

wait what? give that guy a death sentence because he yelled about guns and Colorado? :confused:

No the guy did the shooting. i thought he was talking about the shooter

[Microphone26]

He should get the death sentence but something must have been wrong with him to plan all that stuff out. like seriously what is this world coming to?

[Abnormal]

That man has some serious mental issues. No one should just wake up one morning and just say to themselves "I'm going to kill as many people as I possibly can tonight". That's not normal. The fact that he was able to obtain all of these guns legally is just proving my point that guns need to be, if not outlawed, restricted MORE strictly. I don't feel safe living in a country where someone can just go into a store, ask for a gun, get it and kill people the very next day. There is just something wrong with that picture, if you ask me.

[Professional Russian]

That man has some serious mental issues. No one should just wake up one morning and just say to themselves "I'm going to kill as many people as I possibly can tonight". That's not normal. The fact that he was able to obtain all of these guns legally is just proving my point that guns need to be, if not outlawed, restricted MORE strictly. I don't feel safe living in a country where someone can just go into a store, ask for a gun, get it and kill people the very next day. There is just something wrong with that picture, if you ask me.

Guns arent the problem. If you ban guns the bad guys will still be able to get guns illegally. what we need to do is have more evaluations to the list of things to pass to get a gun.

You should need the following:

Valid ID
Full Background check
Psych evaluation
no criminal record(DUIs and speeding tickets dont count)

[Iron Man]

If you ban guns the bad guys will still be able to get guns illegally.

More evaluations aren't going to stop the crazies anyway.

[Professional Russian]

More evaluations aren't going to stop the crazies anyway.

It be able to make it a bit smaller. not much but a bit. but any way you put it yes if guns are banned or not the bad guys will always get guns

[OregonStateDude]

This time I do have a link, there was a bomb threat in San Jose, CA.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_21147209/san-jose-package-thrown-into-dark-knight-showing?source=rss

That clinches it for me, I'm just going to wait for the DVD to come out.

[Sugaree]

That clinches it for me, I'm just going to wait for the DVD to come out.

Are you really that cowardly to let two isolated incidents deter you from having fun? Jesus, if America is going to become a nation of pussies after these two incidents, I might just leave the country. The chances of your local movie theater going under any type of violent situation are so slim that you have more chances to be hit by lightning twice. Go out to the theater, see the movie, and just have fun.

[OregonStateDude]

Are you really that cowardly to let two isolated incidents deter you from having fun?

That has nothing to do with anything. But how am I supposed to enjoy the movie if I'm always checking to see if someone with a backpack is going to act stupid. Besides that, my mom already banned me from seeing the movie at the theater, and I don't feel comfortable lying to her.

[StoppingTime]

That has nothing to do with anything. But how am I supposed to enjoy the movie if I'm always checking to see if someone with a backpack is going to act stupid. Besides that, my mom already banned me from seeing the movie at the theater, and I don't feel comfortable lying to her.

There's no reason to constantly check. As mentioned, the odds are so unlikely that an incident like that will happen again.
That's like saying you'd never go anywhere because a shooting once happened at the same venue. It doesn't add up.

[Sugaree]

That has nothing to do with anything. But how am I supposed to enjoy the movie if I'm always checking to see if someone with a backpack is going to act stupid. Besides that, my mom already banned me from seeing the movie at the theater, and I don't feel comfortable lying to her.

You're absolutely paranoid and I feel sorry for you.

[Sudds3]

I've seen it twice......and nothing happened! Just watched an awesome movie, twice, and enjoyed it! So just go, it's not going to happen again....murderers don't like to do the same ing twice! I should know, hahahaha jk....or am I? I am, I'm not a murderer.....seriously! Even if people think I'm crazy or weird or psycho....I'm cool, not spazzing out. Well I kinda am, but not enough to kill people!

[cgk101]

Crazy sad

[Magus]

Jesus, if America is going to become a nation of pussies after these two incidentsWelcome to the third world?

[Sugaree]

Welcome to the third world?

If I was living in a third world country, yes, I would be scared to go out. Not to sound like some pig shit ignorant American, but I feel safe enough in this country not to think that mass shootings like this happen everyday.