What presidential candidate are you pulling for even if you aren't allowed to vote.

[Killsantoni]

I'm pulling for Romney because he seems to know what he is doing, and trying to take business to new countries, yet by taking jobs out, he will start a new trade with that country, and in the end, create more jobs. Plus, Obama has completely screwed this nation, or in the words of my grandfather, an incompetent baboon who is no less evil than Hitler. I don't agree with him, buy he's close. What's your view.

[Thunduhbuhlt]

Obama 100%. I have explained this on more than one occasion, so look around at other threads to figure it out.

[Green Arrow]

Obama all the way. The republicans are homophobic twats from what I've heard and I don't want all the work that has gone into trying to get equality wasted. I don't want Harvey Milk's work to go down the pan in vain, god rest his soul. I don't live in the US though so I don't know all the facts. :P

[Killsantoni]

Obama 100%. I have explained this on more than one occasion, so look around at other threads to figure it out.

I'm new here, and I'm not looking for it, do just say it.

Obama all the way. The republicans are homophobic twats from what I've heard and I don't want all the work that has gone into trying to get equality wasted. I don't want Harvey Milk's work to go down the pan in vain, god rest his soul. I don't live in the US though so I don't know all the facts. :P

Don't believe everything the liberal media says, do further research.

[Noirtier]

I'm rooting for Obama, personally. Romney is a wretched crook who wouldn't know what to do if it bit him in the butt. Obama has experience, and while I don't agree with everything he has done, he has brought about affordable healthcare for everyone in the country--or at least attempted to depending on the Supreme Court's ruling. He has furthered equality for homosexuals in the country by coming and announcing his support of it, not to mention he has handled foreign policy in regards to places such as Libya much better than Bush ever handled Iraq/Afghanistan. He has/plans to withdraw our troops from a war that is going no where. Given the other options, another 4 years of Obama would be the best choice.

[Airfan]

Ron Paul. Even though he is not running anymore he is the only one that makes any sense. Both Obama and Romney are pointless puppets that wont do this country any good.

[Killsantoni]

I'm rooting for Obama, personally. Romney is a wretched crook who wouldn't know what to do if it bit him in the butt. Obama has experience, and while I don't agree with everything he has done, he has brought about affordable healthcare for everyone in the country--or at least attempted to depending on the Supreme Court's ruling. He has furthered equality for homosexuals in the country by coming and announcing his support of it, not to mention he has handled foreign policy in regards to places such as Libya much better than Bush ever handled Iraq/Afghanistan. He has/plans to withdraw our troops from a war that is going no where. Given the other options, another 4 years of Obama would be the best choice.

What has he done for our economy besides spending trillions. Huh. Tell me that, why should we get a spendaholic president.

[Noirtier]

Ron Paul. Even though he is not running anymore he is the only one that makes any sense. Both Obama and Romney are pointless puppets that wont do this country any good.

In all honesty I am an avid Ron Paul supporter, the only reason I said Obama was because Paul is out of the race, and he is better than Romney.

What has he done for our economy besides spending trillions. Huh. Tell me that, why should we get a spendaholic president.

Believe it or not the economy has begun to improve, albeit slowly. Yes, Obama has spent trillions. That helped the economy begin to come out of the recession.

[Smeagol]

I am afraid I would have to say Obama. Why?

I prefer his morals over Romney's. Although I must say I prefer Romney's economic approach, I would not be able to vote for somebody who is against gay marriage and is pro life without guilt.

If I had to vote, I would vote for Obama. However, if there was the option of not voting, that would be the path I would take.

[Killsantoni]

I am afraid I would have to say Obama. Why?

I prefer his morals over Romney's. Although I must say I prefer Romney's economic approach, I would not be able to vote for somebody who is against gay marriage and is pro life without guilt.

If I had to vote, I would vote for Obama. However, if there was the option of not voting, that would be the path I would take.

So you're saying that you will let a buffoon let the economy tumble down and down, just because he supports gay marriage and pro-choice. Who cares what those morals are, saving a baby and not letting gays marry, btw, that's the state, not federal. Think again.

[Neverender]

Obama has completely screwed this nation, or in the words of my grandfather, an incompetent baboon who is no less evil than Hitler. I don't agree with him, buy he's close.

If you think Obama is even remotely similar to a Right-Wing genocidal mass-murderer than you need to check yourself into a Psychiatric Ward.


Obama never screwed the US. He saved the economy from flowing into a depression. He could have let it slide and it wouldn't have been his fault since it's a direct result of the last 40 years, but he'll be like Hoover where everyone castes blame on him. He introduced an attempt at Universal Healthcare, which most of the world scoffed at your country for rejecting it.

In my honest opinion, you need to let Obama go again. Let him be president, stop having the republicans stop everything he does simply because he's a different party.

He's a lot better than Romney. I wouldn't want a mormon running the country. I could never sleep well knowing that he believes that in the 19th Century, a man named Joesph Smith dug-up two golden tablets. Which he translated conveniently lost. And translated moreover although a 19th Century man translated them into 16th century english. So if the man you're contemplating voting for believes all that, believes that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, believes that Native Americans are the lost 10 tribes of Israel, believes that Jesus visited North America, What else is he capable of believing?

That's why Romney scares me as a presidential candidate. And also why Obama is a shoe-in for this election.

[Thunderstorm]

If you think Obama is even remotely similar to a Right-Wing genocidal mass-murderer than you need to check yourself into a Psychiatric Ward.


Obama never screwed the US. He saved the economy from flowing into a depression. He could have let it slide and it wouldn't have been his fault since it's a direct result of the last 40 years, but he'll be like Hoover where everyone castes blame on him. He introduced an attempt at Universal Healthcare, which most of the world scoffed at your country for rejecting it.

In my honest opinion, you need to let Obama go again. Let him be president, stop having the republicans stop everything he does simply because he's a different party.

He's a lot better than Romney. I wouldn't want a mormon running the country. I could never sleep well knowing that he believes that in the 19th Century, a man named Joesph Smith dug-up two golden tablets. Which he translated conveniently lost. And translated moreover although a 19th Century man translated them into 16th century english. So if the man you're contemplating voting for believes all that, believes that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, believes that Native Americans are the lost 10 tribes of Israel, believes that Jesus visited North America, What else is he capable of believing?

That's why Romney scares me as a presidential candidate. And also why Obama is a shoe-in for this election.

Ryan, finally we cna agree on something! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who looks at Obama this way. People ignore the fact that he's saved our nation, and go to saying that he's only driven us into more of a recession, which is wrong. Sheesh. Thank you.
You should see how people react to this on an app called Instagran. they have the nerve to go to Obama's Instagram and comment on a picture of his wife saying "You ruined our country. thanks for keeping our tropps in Afghan till 2024." What losers?

[Noirtier]

In my honest opinion, you need to let Obama go again. Let him be president, stop having the republicans stop everything he does simply because he's a different party.

In all honesty, we have no control over whether the Republicans behave themselves and cooperate with President Obama--the poltical party system in the USA has grown so horrible and corrupt that--as can be seen--BOTH political parties refuse to accept any idea from the other simply because one is Democrat and the other Republican. This is the very thing George Washington himself warned our country against in his farewell address because he knew this division would happen if political parties were formed. Sadly, he was right. I support the dissolving of political parties myself. But that's just my take on it.

As far as Mitt Romney goes, I 100% oppose him gaining the office of the presidency because of the person he is and--yes, in part due to his Mormonism. I mean really, Joseph Smith. If you're going to make a religion, at least make it make sense...

[Neverender]

In all honesty, we have no control over whether the Republicans behave themselves and cooperate with President Obama--the poltical party system in the USA has grown so horrible and corrupt that--as can be seen--BOTH political parties refuse to accept any idea from the other simply because one is Democrat and the other Republican. This is the very thing George Washington himself warned our country against in his farewell address because he knew this division would happen if political parties were formed. Sadly, he was right. I support the dissolving of political parties myself. But that's just my take on it.

As far as Mitt Romney goes, I 100% oppose him gaining the office of the presidency because of the person he is and--yes, in part due to his Mormonism. I mean really, Joseph Smith. If you're going to make a religion, at least make it make sense...

Correct. I mean, your country isn't even Multi-Party. You run the worst possible form of Democracy with Bi-Partisan elections. At least in Canada we have 5 Active political parties, Conservatives, Liberals, New Democrats, Green and Bloc Quebecois. This system makes it so that a minority government isn't held useless by a stiff opposition, as the non-opposition parties can and often vote with the ruling party.

Ryan, finally we cna agree on something! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who looks at Obama this way. People ignore the fact that he's saved our nation, and go to saying that he's only driven us into more of a recession, which is wrong. Sheesh. Thank you.
You should see how people react to this on an app called Instagran. they have the nerve to go to Obama's Instagram and comment on a picture of his wife saying "You ruined our country. thanks for keeping our tropps in Afghan till 2024." What losers?

I don't understand it, it's as if undecided voters are the stupidest things on the planet. They somehow think that if Obama doesn't have the economy fixed by a week after inauguration than he's useless.

[Killsantoni]

Why does Obama get credit for "fixing" the economy, it basically fixed itself. And Mormonism, seriously, I need another reason as to why you wouldn't or won't vote for him.

[Neverender]

Why does Obama get credit for "fixing" the economy, it basically fixed itself. And Mormonism, seriously, I need another reason as to why you wouldn't or won't vote for him.

"it basically fixed itself"

So the bailout money did nothing? The multi-billion Dollar automotives industries would have managed to get back to the same state as they are oday had they been left to go bankrupt and go defunct?

And as for Mormonism, if your candidate holds beliefs that are barking mad and you don't see that as a reason not to vote for them, think again. Romney was a part of the Mormon church while it was an Officially Racist organization. They didn't even let blacks into the church until 1979. He was an adult in 1979. Someone needs to ask him about it. "What are your thoughts of being in an organization that practiced racism in your adult lifetime?" And "How are you glad that's changed if you are glad?"

Why have no one asked these questions?

[Noirtier]

Why does Obama get credit for "fixing" the economy, it basically fixed itself.

If an economy could fix itself, well then we wouldn't have all these debt crises in Europe, or around the world for that matter. Economics 101: Economies--especially at this point in time--are such massive and complex systems that incorporate everything in a given country--and more or less are regulated by government laws and procedures, the only way to moderate an economy such as one the size of America's.

[Killsantoni]

If an economy could fix itself, well then we wouldn't have all these debt crises in Europe, or around the world for that matter. Economics 101: Economies--especially at this point in time--are such massive and complex systems that incorporate everything in a given country--and more or less are regulated by government laws and procedures, the only way to moderate an economy such as one the size of America's.

Ok, I'll give you that, but if they, the government, didn't get involved in this, we would most likely not be having this problem. The only regulation I agree with is the regulation of banks.

[Thunduhbuhlt]

And as for Mormonism, if your candidate holds beliefs that are barking mad and you don't see that as a reason not to vote for them, think again. Romney was a part of the Mormon church while it was an Officially Racist organization. They didn't even let blacks into the church until 1979. He was an adult in 1979. Someone needs to ask him about it. "What are your thoughts of being in an organization that practiced racism in your adult lifetime?" And "How are you glad that's changed if you are glad?"

Why have no one asked these questions?

Wow, I have never thought about it that way, and those are excellent questions, but surely he would lie unless he wants to lose the entire black and Hispanic vote, which is who he has been targeting lately.

[itsandrew_]

Roseanne Barr, ha.

[Killsantoni]

Classic liberal vs conservative debate, but Mormonism might be racial, but I don't think that Romney is that way at all. Stop trying to pin racism on him just because he's going up against a black guy. Give him a break.

[christianteen]

From what I've heard I wouldn't be voting for either.

[Gaybaby94]

Obama! He supports my right to equality! He's in the process of saving our country, and plus I would refuse to vote for any ignorant Republican.

[Neverender]

Classic liberal vs conservative debate, but Mormonism might be racial, but I don't think that Romney is that way at all. Stop trying to pin racism on him just because he's going up against a black guy. Give him a break.

Are you telling me Religion is out of reach so far as talking about the candidates goes? Don't be so ridiculous. We've suffered through enough that since Reagan. I'm not pinning racism on him, I'm pinning the fact he was a part of a racist organization while he was an adult and could choose to leave at any time but did not. What are his opinions on that?

[Killsantoni]

Are you telling me Religion is out of reach so far as talking about the candidates goes? Don't be so ridiculous. We've suffered through enough that since Reagan. I'm not pinning racism on him, I'm pinning the fact he was a part of a racist organization while he was an adult and could choose to leave at any time but did not. What are his opinions on that?

Oh my god, you're right. I wouldn't vote for him because he's in a racist group that believes in other beliefs. I mean seriously, he doesn't have to believe I racism to be Mormon. Btw, I'm not Mormon, but their cathedrals are absolutely beautiful. Btw, just by saying this, you won't vote for him because he's Mormon, is actually pretty prejudice.

[Professional Russian]

I love how some of you say obama because he supports gays. he doesnt support gays hes just saying that to get elected again. Obama is trying deprately by saying all this bullshit to elected again. i hate the 2 canidates running but if i had to pick one it would be romney atleast he supports gun rights and freedom of speech and the troops he supports the troops. Unlike that commi bastard we have know

[Killsantoni]

I love how some of you say obama because he supports gays. he doesnt support gays hes just saying that to get elected again. Obama is trying deprately by saying all this bullshit to elected again. i hate the 2 canidates running but if i had to pick one it would be romney atleast he supports gun rights and freedom of speech and the troops he supports the troops. Unlike that commi bastard we have know

Umm, I agree with most of what you say, but that "commi bastard" comment is sorta uncalled for, even obama isn't that bad.

[Abyssal Echo]

Ron Paul. Even though he is not running anymore he is the only one that makes any sense. Both Obama and Romney are pointless puppets that wont do this country any good.

Unfortunately I have to agree with Airfan in my opinion neither candidate are worth a shit and are not worth the gas it would take to go to the polls to vote. Obviously my mom will go but mainly to vote on state and local stuff on the ballot.

[Professional Russian]

Umm, I agree with most of what you say, but that "commi bastard" comment is sorta uncalled for, even obama isn't that bad.

I have a shit ton of names for obama bin laden i just id use that one at the time

[Gaybaby94]

I love how some of you say obama because he supports gays. he doesnt support gays hes just saying that to get elected again. Obama is trying deprately by saying all this bullshit to elected again. i hate the 2 canidates running but if i had to pick one it would be romney atleast he supports gun rights and freedom of speech and the troops he supports the troops. Unlike that commi bastard we have know

It's not just that. in 4 years Obama:
Killed Osama Nin Laden
Toppled and killed Gaddhafi
Kim Jong Il died during his watch
Mubarak stepped down
Took care of the people on Wallstreet
Came out to fully support my rights
He is winning the war on religion
He saved illegal immigrant
He is saving this economy
He got free universal healthcare passed.

Please tell me what did George Bush do besides waste trillions of money and sent millions of lives in harms way over oil.

Oh and very classy sending neg rep saying "Commi Bama is the worst president ever."

[Professional Russian]

It's not just that. in 4 years Obama:
Killed Osama Nin Laden
Toppled and killed Gaddhafi
Kim Jong Il died during his watch
Mubarak stepped down
Took care of the people on Wallstreet
Came out to fully support my rights
He is winning the war on religion
He saved illegal immigrant
He is saving this economy
He got free universal healthcare passed.

Please tell me what did George Bush do besides waste trillions of money and sent millions of lives in harms way over oil.

Oh and very classy sending neg rep saying "Commi Bama is the worst president ever."

Bust found bin laden
Obama doesnt support gay rights just an attempt too elected again
he fucked the economy more
Saved immigrtation? hes trying to make those bastards legal are retarded or something
Universal healthcare is a bunch of bullshit if you cant pay for it yourself you get nothing

[tHe_Jester1080]

Romney!!!

Obama will say and do anything to get reelected. He's black so he's already going to get the majority of the black vote. He's going to give illegal mexicans free reign to roam the country with out any worry of getting deported. He will kiss solyndra's ass to get all the eco-freindly companies to vote for him. He will give banks and stock brokers money so wall street will vote for him. So while he's campainging all the time our country's economy is going to shit, the middle east is coming undone agian, mexicans are taking our jobs, and iran is having fun stealing all of our intel and technology and selling it to the chinese. Where in all this has he helped our nation?

[Jess]

Bust found bin laden
Obama doesnt support gay rights just an attempt too elected again
he fucked the economy more
Saved immigrtation? hes trying to make those bastards legal are retarded or something
Universal healthcare is a bunch of bullshit if you cant pay for it yourself you get nothing

how do you know Obama doesn't support gay rights?

[Professional Russian]

how do you know Obama doesn't support gay rights?

think about it. hes desperate and your telling me he just now says he supports gay marriage?

[Neverender]

think about it. hes desperate and your telling me he just now says he supports gay marriage?

Did you see the American reaction to Oreos? Do you rerally think with the number of extreme religious in the United States that it helps his election amongst republicans to have himself known as an open supporter of LGBT rights?

[Sugaree]

It's not just that. in 4 years Obama:
Killed Osama Nin Laden
Toppled and killed Gaddhafi
Kim Jong Il died during his watch
Mubarak stepped down

Gaddhafi was killed in the streets by his own people. Obama had nothing to do with it, you ignorant idiot. Also, Kim Jong Il died from a heart attack, something Obama had nothing to do with. Once again, ignorant idiot. Also, Mubarak stepped down because of pressure from the Egyptian revolutionaries. Holy fuck kid, do you like sucking Barry's cock or what?

Came out to fully support my rights

Well whoop-de-fuckin'-doo, he's fine with gays! So are tons of other people!

[boonsim]

Obama because women, gays, and non white people would be screwed otherwise.

[vitorioso]

Even though I truly do NOT care, if my life depended on it I would sway for Obama. Romney seems homophobic.

[Sugaree]

Obama because women, gays, and non white people would be screwed otherwise.

Are you fucking kidding? Please tell me you are kidding.

[Bluebird14]

I wanted herman Cain... I know him personally and he's a great guy but since he's out I'm gonna have to say mitt Romney

[wolfguy]

i will vote for any 1 as long as it is not obama

[Neptune]

Romney.

[Neptune]

It's not just that. in 4 years Obama:
Killed Osama Nin Laden
Kim Jong Il died during his watch
Toppled and killed Gaddhafi
Mubarak stepped down
Came out to fully support my rights
He is winning the war on religion
He saved illegal immigrant
He is saving this economy
He got free universal healthcare passed.

Please tell me what did George Bush do besides waste trillions of money and sent millions of lives in harms way over oil.


Killed Osama Nin Laden - No, Navy Seals killed Osama Bin Laden.
Toppled and killed Gaddhafi - No, rebels in Libya did that.
Kim Jong Il died during his watch - Kim Jong Il died of a heart attack that had nothing to do with anyone outside of North Korea.
Mubarak stepped down - I'll give you that. Look where Egypt is now.
Took care of the people on Wallstreet - How did he do that? Wall Street is just as greedy as they were four years ago.
Came out to fully support my rights - Is gay marriage legal? He had two years of a Democratic Senate and House. He came out to support your rights in the middle of an election year.
He is winning the war on religion- That doesn't help you.
He saved illegal immigrant - No, he didn't. He only delayed a issue that will need attention soon.
He is saving this economy - 8.0 unemployment. Is that what we call ''saving the economy?''
He got free universal healthcare passed. - Give that to you too.

I'm no fan of Bush but let's be real. The last two presidents have sucked. Obama is no better then bush.

[jerry102]

Obama

I don't know how anyone could vote for Romney, I know Obama hasn't been the best, but Romney is just horrible, Romney is a liar, he panders to what ever group his talking too, he change his positions everyday, he can't even relate to the average person, he not qualified either, his business experience isn't that great and neither is his experience as a governor, during his term Massachusetts was 47th in the nation in terms of job creation so idk why people think he would be good with job creation. I rather the republicans nominate Ron Paul, at least with him, we know where he stand on issues and know what he would do, well try to do when his president, Mitt Romney doesn't even tell us what he would do, all he say is he going to repeal this and repeal that, but doesn't say what he would replace it with, and another thing I don't understand is why people think he would repeal the healthcare law when his administration was the one that made the bill in the first place, it was probably the only thing he did in Massachusetts that the people liked, but now since he running for president, he trying to away from it, instead of embracing it, republicans always tell the president to run on his record, but their candidate can't even do that. if it was Ron Paul it would be a choice between a good candidate and another good candidate but without him, it a good candidate versus a bad candidate

[Professional Russian]

Heres what i have to say. I wouldnt vote for either one. OBamas an idiot that doesnt do shit and romneys an idiot that wouldnt do shit. I think we need some on oh idon know like maybe someone who knows what the fuck they're. obama doesnt know what hes doing and romney doesnt know what hes doing. the only reasons i would actually vote for romney are the fallowing:

He supports gun rights
he supports freedom of mutha fucking speech

and thats about it un like obama that wanted to take away my guns and has succeeded at taking my freedom of speech. they both suck.

P.S. I know some of you will say gun rights dont matter. Heres my message for you. Gay rights dont matter.

[ShatteredWings]

It's kinda scary that Romney is (apparently) the "best" republican candidate.

But Obama.
I may or may not vote, depends if I can register before I leave for school.

[Killsantoni]

Killed Osama Nin Laden - No, Navy Seals killed Osama Bin Laden.
Toppled and killed Gaddhafi - No, rebels in Libya did that.
Kim Jong Il died during his watch - Kim Jong Il died of a heart attack that had nothing to do with anyone outside of North Korea.
Mubarak stepped down - I'll give you that. Look where Egypt is now.
Took care of the people on Wallstreet - How did he do that? Wall Street is just as greedy as they were four years ago.
Came out to fully support my rights - Is gay marriage legal? He had two years of a Democratic Senate and House. He came out to support your rights in the middle of an election year.
He is winning the war on religion- That doesn't help you.
He saved illegal immigrant - No, he didn't. He only delayed a issue that will need attention soon.
He is saving this economy - 8.0 unemployment. Is that what we call ''saving the economy?''
He got free universal healthcare passed. - Give that to you too.

I'm no fan of Bush but let's be real. The last two presidents have sucked. Obama is no better then bush.

You forgot Clinton.

[Professional Russian]

You forgot Clinton.

Clinton found bin laden but didnt kill him and what the hell does clinton have todo with anyhting

[Killsantoni]

Clinton found bin laden but didnt kill him and what the hell does clinton have todo with anyhting

Heyltz Nick said we've had a string of bad presidents, but he forgot to mention Clinton.

[Professional Russian]

Heyltz Nick said we've had a string of bad presidents, but he forgot to mention Clinton.
That really doesnt matter though its not really related to the conversation in any way shape or form

[Neptune]

That really doesnt matter though its not really related to the conversation in any way shape or form


You're really annoying, you know that right?

He was responding to me not you. Clinton does have something to do with this conversation. We are talking about the election for President of the United States. What did Clinton happen to be? The President of the United States.

[Professional Russian]

You're really annoying, you know that right?

He was responding to me not you. Clinton does have something to do with this conversation. We are talking about the election for President of the United States. What did Clinton happen to be? The President of the United States.

You I dont give a fuck Right?

[Sephtyan]

I'd just like to put out there that Obama didn't start his presidency in the greatest of economic times. Bush screwed the economy by shoving us into the 13-digit debt and starting a war we weren't really obligated to fight in. You know the saying "You have to lose some to win some"? We've already lost so much because of Bush that Obama is now stuck with trying to mop that shit up while still keeping our collective heads above water. The reason why his accomplishments in direct regards to the economy seem incremental rather than revolutionary is because trying to change something so massively inter-connected is extremely difficult, no matter which direction you're trying to take it. If you push one part a little too quickly, or neglect another part for too long, then the entire system just starts to collapse. I'd like to see you people who call him the new Hitler try to do his job. See how you fare under the stress of a nation's worth of people thinking you aren't right for the job, and knowing that only you have the power to change it.

[Killsantoni]

I'd just like to put out there that Obama didn't start his presidency in the greatest of economic times. Bush screwed the economy by shoving us into the 13-digit debt and starting a war we weren't really obligated to fight in. You know the saying "You have to lose some to win some"? We've already lost so much because of Bush that Obama is now stuck with trying to mop that shit up while still keeping our collective heads above water. The reason why his accomplishments in direct regards to the economy seem incremental rather than revolutionary is because trying to change something so massively inter-connected is extremely difficult, no matter which direction you're trying to take it. If you push one part a little too quickly, or neglect another part for too long, then the entire system just starts to collapse. I'd like to see you people who call him the new Hitler try to do his job. See how you fare under the stress of a nation's worth of people thinking you aren't right for the job, and knowing that only you have the power to change it.

Um, Clinton decided to fuck up this country, not bush. Clinton deregulated the banks, no rules, loans too big so people can't pay them off. That's what screwed us, and bush was trying to terrorism, if we didn't respond, that would've shown weakness, and most likely lead to more attacks. Clinton led us to the fucked up foreign affairs, and if you haven't realized, bush was in the same position from Clinton, his screwed up admin and economy caused the middle east troubles. You cannot pin all of this on bush, not even 45% of this. He had an interest in this country, not leading it to a socialist republic obamas trying to make.

[Neverender]

and bush was trying to [prevent] terrorism, if we didn't respond, that would've shown weakness, and most likely lead to more attacks.

This can go all the way back to Reagan and Bush Senior giving weapons to these people in the first place against the Soviets. We can blame it on them.

You cannot pin all of this on bush, not even 45% of this. He had an interest in this country, not leading it to a socialist republic obamas trying to make.
>Implying Socialism is bad
>Reminds you that countries that practice Socialism are consistently happier, healthier, more educated and have higher HDIs than the United States.

[DerBear]

Obama.

Simply because I think he is the less eviller candidate of the two major political parties.

[Squid]

Ron Paul to bad he is out.



And you guys know that marriage laws are up to the states not congress. So what the president thinks really doesn't matter.

[jackson94]

Rocky fucking Anderson.
Check him out, he's a third-party (or second-party as he calls it, considering the similarities between the Democrats and Republicans).

He's a very competent speaker of foreign issues. Holds economic and domestic views similar to the rhetoric of the Democratic party, but is hopefully less corrupt. Is anti-war for the most part, for single-payer, yadda yadda.

As for people who say they would vote for Ron Paul, vote for the guy he'll endorse. Gary Johnson is the libertarian candidate (Ron Paul is a libertarian).

[HowlingSnail]

Well I'm British so I'm not very well informed, but Obama seems to have done so much for the USA and the world that he's the natural choice.

[SamW]

If Romney wins the US is a joke

[Darknova8]

I completely agree with neverender and trail blazer. Obama all the way.

[derpderp]

Stewart Alexander! Of the SPUSA!! Too bad the corporatist 2-party system won't give small parties any chances...

[WaffleSingSong]

Stewart Alexander! Of the SPUSA!! Too bad the corporatist 2-party system won't give small parties any chances...

Eh, Were stuck with it for a while :P

Personally, they both suck. But Obama seems like the lesser of two evils. But, I really hope a social democratic party will take over one of the other like what happened in Britain.

[havingfun]

They both suck. Obama is too socially liberal for me and Romney is too big business, so I can't win either way.

[derpderp]

Eh, Were stuck with it for a while :P

Personally, they both suck. But Obama seems like the lesser of two evils. But, I really hope a social democratic party will take over one of the other like what happened in Britain.

Eh no, America is batshit crazy and yells 'OMFG COMMIEZ?!?!' if a politician wants to give a homeless person a sandwich...

[Kobra]

If you had lived in Massachusetts when Romney was governor, you would know that Obama is a much better candidate for the presidential election.

[Christheman]

Mitt romney FTW

[Cicero]

I'm not a fan of his beliefs but I believe he will do a good job, so Mitt Romney.
Also, I saw a few comments about Reagan and I think, how can no one like the guy!? He was probably one of the best presidents. He's awesome.

[Jess]

I would actually vote for Obama. better him than Romney anyways.

[Shark98]

I would vote for Romney just to try something different.
If only there was an option for neither...

[rfjack]

Ron Paul was the only decent fella.
Now that he's out, I'll have to go with the lesser of two evils, Mitt Romney.

[West Coast Sheriff]

Romney:cool:

[WaffleSingSong]

Ron Paul was the only decent fella.
Now that he's out, I'll have to go with the lesser of two evils, Mitt Romney.

Oh, sure, I love Ron Paul's ideals of anti-interventionism and libertarianesque but his economic ideals are horrible at the least. He believes that you can actually create laissez-faire, or pure-market capitalism, in a modern society. Sure, we might be all peaceful, but our economy would be in even more shit than it is now.

Also, he is completely pro-life, regardless if a woman has been raped or not. Just a little icing on the cake.

[Professional Russian]

americas gonna go to shit anyways whats t matter

[BOSS]

Mitt Romney

O.B.A.M.A
One
big
ass
mistake
America

[johngotti]

obama, but realistically, romney will win, because of money.

[dmb1996]

obama

[Dabigdtc]

Obama I trust him more than a bush repeat not to mention he strapped a dog to the roof of a car

[wolfguy]

ronmay i belive the usa has been fucked up beyon returned by obama

[Sugaree]

Mitt Romney

O.B.A.M.A
One
big
ass
mistake
America

Hurr durr look at me use stupid jokes about someone's name and how it correlates to my political beliefs dur hur.

[randomnessqueen]

i dont care for obama, but i would prefer him over romney. i dont think romney has good ideas

[Johnny B. Fnord]

It doesn't matter who you vote for, Obama and Romney are really close on ideology anyway. There's little difference between them. The media just plays up the two-party system to make it seem like they are your only two choices.

I'm a member of the CPUSA so will probably vote for their candidate or the Green Party candidate.

The two party system is way outdated and way whack.

[WaffleSingSong]

It doesn't matter who you vote for, Obama and Romney are really close on ideology anyway. There's little difference between them. The media just plays up the two-party system to make it seem like they are your only two choices.

I'm a member of the CPUSA so will probably vote for their candidate or the Green Party candidate.

The two party system is way outdated and way whack.

CPUSA Huh? I was thinking about joining them, but most of them are too Leninist. Im a Marxist Libertarian :P

[Sol90]

Romney.

[Amnesiac]

Gary Johnson.

[james97perth]

right my view on the us election is romney is a right wing elitist who would tax the middle class into hell,but if you dont like him because he's a mormon then your no better than goerge.w.bush who was a racist and basicly despised muslims.i think obama is a socialist but he did save the us economy but obamacare was a mistake he should of wiated until his second term,if he doesnt get re-elected because of that i will be pissed. im behing obama but there both as bad as eachother.

[Christine.]

Obama

[Puma_concolor]

None.

[Guillermo]

Could I just vote for the Green Partyof the US? Lol...
But I'd vote for Gary Johnson. He represents mostly everything I believe in to make this country better than those other two fuckers.

[Cicero]

Romney

[Sdb53]

Heres what i have to say. I wouldnt vote for either one. OBamas an idiot that doesnt do shit and romneys an idiot that wouldnt do shit. I think we need some on oh idon know like maybe someone who knows what the fuck they're. obama doesnt know what hes doing and romney doesnt know what hes doing. the only reasons i would actually vote for romney are the fallowing:

He supports gun rights
he supports freedom of mutha fucking speech

and thats about it un like obama that wanted to take away my guns and has succeeded at taking my freedom of speech. they both suck.

P.S. I know some of you will say gun rights dont matter. Heres my message for you. Gay rights dont matter.

What has Obama done to take away your guns...
What has Obama done to take away your freedom of speech...(and don't say the healthcare law because the Supreme Court already ruled and said it was constitutional with a conservative majority)

What can't you say or do now that your could when Bush was President..

You do realize that no one is trying to take your guns and it is just the NRA saying that to make money...
And if gay rights don't matter then lets just let them get married... You know if they don't matter why do you people seem to care so much

[Diverperry]

I don't see why people are putting Romney's religion and view on gay marriage as their deciding factors. The focus of this election should first and foremost be the economy. Romney wins that by turning around the winter Olympics, recovering the mass. economy, and just years of experience as a governor that Obama never had. Obama has socialist tendencies that scare me and Obamacare is a mess. Also, going back to his religion, I am a member of the LDS church and most of the things stated about the religion in this thread are false and probably found on some antimormon website. In closing, I don't think Romney is the perfect candidate, but I choose him over Obama.

[CourtingErmine]

I don't see why people are putting Romney's religion and view on gay marriage as their deciding factors. The focus of this election should first and foremost be the economy. Romney wins that by turning around the winter Olympics, recovering the mass. economy, and just years of experience as a governor that Obama never had. Obama has socialist tendencies that scare me and Obamacare is a mess. Also, going back to his religion, I am a member of the LDS church and most of the things stated about the religion in this thread are false and probably found on some antimormon website. In closing, I don't think Romney is the perfect candidate, but I choose him over Obama.

They need a "reason" to discriminate.

[Amnesiac]

I don't see why people are putting Romney's religion and view on gay marriage as their deciding factors.

I agree that Romney's religion is absolutely irrelevant to the presidential race. However, what he claims he will do in the name of religious conservatism is extremely important and should be considered just as much as the economy. It's easy to overlook social issues, but doing so is exactly what encourages politicians to slip increasingly oppressive laws through Congress.

The focus of this election should first and foremost be the economy. Romney wins that by turning around the winter Olympics,

I don't believe managing the Winter Olympics is really comparable to overseeing the regulatory policies of the world's largest economy. That's also why I think Obama's attacks on Romney's tenure at Bain Capital aren't really relevant. Sure, he cut jobs. But how does being a businessman compare to being President? Some prior experience in business would be helpful, but in the end the economic decisions the winner of the elections will have to face are just incomparable. Federal law, by definition, presides over the entire country, and one paragraph can move billions of dollars.

ecovering the mass. economy,

True. However, Romney was playing the role of a moderate, very centrist governor in a liberal state. Balancing Massachusetts' budget came as a result of a variety of cuts and tax/fee increases. Who's to say that Romney will make the same decisions with the pressure of Tea Party Republicans on him?

and just years of experience as a governor that Obama never had.

Oh, the experience argument again. I'd hardly say Obama was inexperienced. Besides, he's the president. He's had four years of "experience" in the White House that Mitt Romney has never had. In the end, that's why the incumbent usually wins.

Obama has socialist tendencies that scare me and Obamacare is a mess.

Socialist tendencies? Ha. If you were to make Obama leader of any other country, he'd probably be in the center, if not leaning slightly right. "Obamacare" definitely does need to be fixed, yes.

Also, going back to his religion, I am a member of the LDS church and most of the things stated about the religion in this thread are false and probably found on some antimormon website. In closing, I don't think Romney is the perfect candidate, but I choose him over Obama.

I think it's unfortunate that the president's religion is even a topic up for discussion. Of course, in a nation where church and state are so tragically intertwined, and where social conservatism still leaks out of one incredibly vocal minority, I can see why it's so avidly discussed. I don't care who Mitt Romney prays to, but I definitely care about what he tries to impose on the American people in the name of his God.

[Thunderstorm]

I hope Obama wins. If Romney does, the middle class is doomed. Everyone expected Obama to fix the economy within his first month of office, which is impossible for any presidant to accomplish. The economy was destroyed by the republicans, and not just by Bush, by his father as well and the Great Depression came after Hoover was president (may I note, a republican). I'm not saying all republicans are bad, but most just don't know how to run this economy.

EDIT: Remember, I said not ALL Republicans suck at being President, hence Lincoln, i just said most, so don't go yelling at me for it.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Both will do no good. However, Obama will do less bad. So rooting for him.

[Sugaree]

I hope Obama wins. If Romney does, the middle class is doomed. Everyone expected Obama to fix the economy within his first month of office, which is impossible for any presidant to accomplish. The economy was destroyed by the republicans, and not just by Bush, by his father as well and the Great Depression came after Hoover was president (may I note, a republican). I'm not saying all republicans are bad, but most just don't know how to run this economy.

EDIT: Remember, I said not ALL Republicans suck at being President, hence Lincoln, i just said most, so don't go yelling at me for it.

What about the first Roosevelt? Without him, you wouldn't have the National Park system. What about Coolidge? He got rid of the corrupt left overs of the Harding administration.

[Thunderstorm]

What about the first Roosevelt? Without him, you wouldn't have the National Park system. What about Coolidge? He got rid of the corrupt left overs of the Harding administration.

Ok again, I knew this would happen. did you not read my edit? I said most, but not every. I said that Lincoln saved our country! I never said every republican sucked. it just seems the past few decades they do.

[WickedWeekend]

I'm pulling for Obama. Because every time we get a new president, America is just pulled into a new era of crap. Let's keep the crap we're used to.

[PinkFloyd]

Romney is a true American. Obama raised our debt and tried to take our guns away!

[CourtingErmine]

I hope Obama wins. If Romney does, the middle class is doomed. Everyone expected Obama to fix the economy within his first month of office, which is impossible for any presidant to accomplish. The economy was destroyed by the republicans, and not just by Bush, by his father as well and the Great Depression came after Hoover was president (may I note, a republican). I'm not saying all republicans are bad, but most just don't know how to run this economy.

EDIT: Remember, I said not ALL Republicans suck at being President, hence Lincoln, i just said most, so don't go yelling at me for it.

First of all, stop watching CNN, and secondly, Clinton deregulated the banks, not Bush. Bush was just pinned with all this shit because he was president at the time. You also had a liberal Congress. Learn history that you haven't been taught in school.

I'm pulling for Obama. Because every time we get a new president, America is just pulled into a new era of crap. Let's keep the crap we're used to.

????????????????? Uh, what, that is one of the biggest load of bull shit I've heard.

[WickedWeekend]

????????????????? Uh, what, that is one of the biggest load of bull shit I've heard.

I love you too.

But in all seriousness, how? How is it the biggest load of bullshit you have ever heard?

[Sugaree]

Ok again, I knew this would happen. did you not read my edit? I said most, but not every. I said that Lincoln saved our country! I never said every republican sucked. it just seems the past few decades they do.

Lincoln didn't save the country. Hell, he didn't even have much of a control over Union forces because all the generals wouldn't give him anything for shit. On top of that, him being Republican and presiding over one of the tougher moments in U.S. history does not make him a good Republican. It should also be noted that Lincoln wasn't much of a pulling force during the Civil War anyway.

Also, I read your edit. But you seem to think people will pass it over and not give you other examples you could have used. As a history student, it bothers me when people do that.


Romney is a true American. Obama raised our debt and tried to take our guns away!

If by "true American" you mean that he believes God changed his mind about blacks in 1978, then sure. Obama is just as much an American as Romney, you, or I. The debt debate is partially valid, but the gun rights being taken away is just stupid. Get the fuck out if you're going to bring this stupid right wing fringe bullshit here.

[CourtingErmine]

I love you too.

But in all seriousness, how? How is it the biggest load of bullshit you have ever heard?

We've had presidents with one term, and the transition was very smooth. Who's to say it won't happen again?

[CourtingErmine]

Get the fuck out if you're going to bring this stupid right wing fringe bullshit here.

The you're gonna hate me :)

[Sugaree]

The you're gonna hate me :)

Alright then, get it over with. We've heard it all on this forum before from right winger nutjobs, you can't be THAT bad.

[CourtingErmine]

Alright then, get it over with. We've heard it all on this forum before from right winger nutjobs, you can't be THAT bad.

Nut jobs, well that's a bit harsh, isn't it? I'm gonna come back later today, because it's 3:14 where I am. Good night VT.

[WickedWeekend]

We've had presidents with one term, and the transition was very smooth. Who's to say it won't happen again?

Because Romney is a Mormon. Fuck if I care, dude. All I know is, if anyone can fix this economy, Obama can. Why? Because Romney hasn't exactly proven to is what can and will do.

[Professional Russian]

If by "true American" you mean that he believes God changed his mind about blacks in 1978, then sure. Obama is just as much an American as Romney, you, or I. The debt debate is partially valid, but the gun rights being taken away is just stupid. Get the fuck out if you're going to bring this stupid right wing fringe bullshit here.

considering obama isnt an american and does want to take our guns and he'll fuck the country more. Romneys an idiot that would also fuck the country. OBama and romney are basically the same. the only difference obama isnt american and wants to take our guns. i dont either of those 2 idiots to get elected because they both fucking suck

[Thunderstorm]

[QUOTE=CourtingErmine;1896689]First of all, stop watching CNN, and secondly, Clinton deregulated the banks, not Bush. Bush was just pinned with all this shit because he was president at the time. You also had a liberal Congress. Learn history that you haven't been taught in school.



::yawn:

[QUOTE=Dakota Sadento;1896843]Lincoln didn't save the country. Hell, he didn't even have much of a control over Union forces because all the generals wouldn't give him anything for shit. On top of that, him being Republican and presiding over one of the tougher moments in U.S. history does not make him a good Republican. It should also be noted that Lincoln wasn't much of a pulling force during the Civil War anyway.

Also, I read your edit. But you seem to think people will pass it over and not give you other examples you could have used. As a history student, it bothers me when people do that.

:crazy:

Sorry, messed up the quoting. You had quoted other people also in your last posts, tried to take those other quotes out.

[CourtingErmine]

Because Romney is a Mormon. Fuck if I care, dude. All I know is, if anyone can fix this economy, Obama can. Why? Because Romney hasn't exactly proven to is what can and will do.

Romney and Ryan have shown what they want to do. Actually listen to talk radio or look it up on the Internet. Obama has had "stimulus" bills and spent over 5 trillion that did next to nothing but drive us deeper into debt. He will do this again, Obama is the type of person to repeat himself. I'll say this, Romney isn't greedy.

[Sugaree]

Nut jobs, well that's a bit harsh, isn't it? I'm gonna come back later today, because it's 3:14 where I am. Good night VT.

Oh trust me, that's not as harsh as I'm willing to become. But I won't for the sake of decency.

considering obama isnt an american and does want to take our guns and he'll fuck the country more. Romneys an idiot that would also fuck the country. OBama and romney are basically the same. the only difference obama isnt american and wants to take our guns. i dont either of those 2 idiots to get elected because they both fucking suck

You have absolutely no proof other than highly speculative rumors that Obama isn't an American. There is enough proof to show that he was born in Hawaii and that his certificate of live birth is valid. There's also hardly any evidence that Obama "wants to take" your guns. Either start providing sources (and the NRA is not counted as a source) or stop debating.

[Professional Russian]

You have absolutely no proof other than highly speculative rumors that Obama isn't an American. There is enough proof to show that he was born in Hawaii and that his certificate of live birth is valid.

show me a birth certificate then. I wont believe till i see it and even when i see i probably wont see it.


There's also hardly any evidence that Obama "wants to take" your guns. Either start providing sources (and the NRA is not counted as a source) or stop debating.
You just said it your self. there is hardly any proof but there is proof and you said it.

[azorne]

In all honesty, we have no control over whether the Republicans behave themselves and cooperate with President Obama--the poltical party system in the USA has grown so horrible and corrupt that--as can be seen--BOTH political parties refuse to accept any idea from the other simply because one is Democrat and the other Republican. This is the very thing George Washington himself warned our country against in his farewell address because he knew this division would happen if political parties were formed. Sadly, he was right. I support the dissolving of political parties myself. But that's just my take on it.

As far as Mitt Romney goes, I 100% oppose him gaining the office of the presidency because of the person he is and--yes, in part due to his Mormonism. I mean really, Joseph Smith. If you're going to make a religion, at least make it make sense...

I don't exactly get why you Americans don't start another political party. I mean, if the Republicans suck, and the Democrats spend money excessively, go run for elections.

[Professional Russian]

I don't exactly get why you Americans don't start another political party. I mean, if the Republicans suck, and the Democrats spend money excessively, go run for elections.

you have to have "Special qualifications" to be president. which is a bunch of bull shit. as much as i hate my dad at times he would make a great fucking president because he'd help the average working person not the rich bastards. But he doesnt have the "qualifications" to run for president and that is why we cant have a good president because those "qualifications" are what fuck you up in the first place.

[Sugaree]

You just said it your self. there is hardly any proof but there is proof and you said it.

Alright then, give us some proof. If you're so convinced Obama is going to take your guns, I want to see some sources. And if one of those sources is the NRA, I'm not going to bother.

[Professional Russian]

Alright then, give us some proof. If you're so convinced Obama is going to take your guns, I want to see some sources. And if one of those sources is the NRA, I'm not going to bother.

WHy is the NRA suddenly invalid?

I bring Fucking Magic. From the Washington Post. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/feb/10/nra-official-obama-wants-outlaw-guns-2nd-term/)

[Sugaree]

WHy is the NRA suddenly invalid?

I bring Fucking Magic. From the Washington Post. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/feb/10/nra-official-obama-wants-outlaw-guns-2nd-term/)

The NRA is invalid because it's an incredibly bias source on gun control laws. Of course they'll say Obama wants to ban guns, it's what they say about most liberal Democrats. As much as I trust The Washington Times, the fact that the NRA official said Obama wants to outlaw guns in his second term is enough for me to see that it's far too biased.

[azorne]

you have to have "Special qualifications" to be president. which is a bunch of bull shit. as much as i hate my dad at times he would make a great fucking president because he'd help the average working person not the rich bastards. But he doesnt have the "qualifications" to run for president and that is why we cant have a good president because those "qualifications" are what fuck you up in the first place.

What qualifications, exactly, are these?

[Professional Russian]

What qualifications, exactly, are these?

Someone be a genius and tell me if i miss something. You need to be born in the US. and you need a law degree. anybody that knows did i miss anything?

[StoppingTime]

considering obama isnt an american and does want to take our guns and he'll fuck the country more. Romneys an idiot that would also fuck the country. OBama and romney are basically the same. the only difference obama isnt american and wants to take our guns. i dont either of those 2 idiots to get elected because they both fucking suck

You have absolutely no legitimate proof to show that he is not an American citizen. Why should I believe anything different than what is written on his birth certificate? Because Trump has made a huge deal out of it? Because the NRA has a made a deal out of it? No.
As for the gun argument, just take it somewhere else, I think we've said hundreds of times that it just doesn't work.
Also, if you can elaborate on the "fuck the country" statements, that would be appreciated.



show me a birth certificate then. I wont believe till i see it and even when i see i probably wont see it.

Here (http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/longform.jpg). Although, you really have no reason to see it. If he says he was born here, and he was able to enter the presidential race, why should I believe a rumor?




you have to have "Special qualifications" to be president. which is a bunch of bull shit. as much as i hate my dad at times he would make a great fucking president because he'd help the average working person not the rich bastards. But he doesnt have the "qualifications" to run for president and that is why we cant have a good president because those "qualifications" are what fuck you up in the first place.

Right, there should be no qualifications to be the leader of a country. :yes:

WHy is the NRA suddenly invalid?


It's invalid because of how ridiculously bias it is. They will say anything, regardless of whether it's true or not, to make it sound like Obama has, "taken away your guns."

[CourtingErmine]

Someone be a genius and tell me if i miss something. You need to be born in the US. and you need a law degree. anybody that knows did i miss anything?

Having a political background would help, along with a business background. There's also this thing called MONEY for campaigning.

You have absolutely no legitimate proof to show that he is not an American citizen. Why should I believe anything different than what is written on his birth certificate? Because Trump has made a huge deal out of it? Because the NRA has a made a deal out of it? No.
As for the gun argument, just take it somewhere else, I think we've said hundreds of times that it just doesn't work.
Also, if you can elaborate on the "fuck the country" statements, that would be appreciated.





Here (http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/longform.jpg). Although, you really have no reason to see it. If he says he was born here, and he was able to enter the presidential race, why should I believe a rumor?






Right, there should be no qualifications to be the leader of a country. :yes:



It's invalid because of how ridiculously bias it is. They will say anything, regardless of whether it's true or not, to make it sound like Obama has, "taken away your guns."

Pro. Russian, you might want to apply cold water to that burn.

[azorne]

Someone be a genius and tell me if i miss something. You need to be born in the US. and you need a law degree. anybody that knows did i miss anything?

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 – ratified February 27, 1951

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

You don't need a law degree, you need to be an American for a long time, and you need votes.

[Syvelocin]

Well, sure as hell not supporting Romney. I'm pushing for Obama to be reelected until someone better comes in for 2016 hopefully. I'm kind of hoping Hillary comes back from her "break."

[CourtingErmine]

Okay, here's the thing, Obama has denied drilling money for the US, but gives tons of money for it to foreign nations. Obama is anti-colonization, which means he doesn't support the colonization of countries. He wants countries to develop and flourish on their own. Colonization makes developing countries develop quicker. Take Kenya for example. They got independence from Great Britain, and they were developing finely. They wanted independence, got it, and look where they are now.
Although third-world countries sell raw materials and receive the finished products at astronomical prices, we don't need an anti-colonizationist president.
Romney all the way.

[dontfiguremeout]

I haven't really been watching the political elections and everything. :( But who ever is running from Republicans! I don't want Obama back in, because he did nothing for our country!

[Spock]

Romney ryan 2012

[StoppingTime]

Romney ryan 2012

Care to elaborate at all?

[CourtingErmine]

I haven't really been watching the political elections and everything. :( But who ever is running from Republicans! I don't want Obama back in, because he did nothing for our country!

False, he did do something for our country, just drove us deeper into debt with his "job creating" stimulus bills.

[duuli]

Obama. I just don't agree that working hard will get you just as far as your neighbor. People need help to get through things. And I don't think that the rich should pay less in taxes thatn a single mother of 3 working two jobs to buy her kids school supplies.

[Wesley1369]

Romney - ryan 2012

[volleyball17]

im liking Romney. obama hasnt really done anything but spend money we dont have

[Sugaree]

im liking Romney. obama hasnt really done anything but spend money we dont have

That's not Obama, that's the entire government. We've been doing it for years, but all of the sudden, no one cares until now.

[CourtingErmine]

That's not Obama, that's the entire government. We've been doing it for years, but all of the sudden, no one cares until now.

Yep, this. But you can't forget the auto bailout that shouldn't've happened, and the stimulus package. But yes, it's the while government.

[Sugaree]

Yep, this. But you can't forget the auto bailout that shouldn't've happened, and the stimulus package. But yes, it's the while government.

The auto bailout shouldn't have happened? Are you fucking dumb? The government would have lost its 30% share in General Motors had the company not been bailed out. On top of that, the unemployment rate would have skyrocketed to at least 14 percent and we'd be in a deeper hole than we're already in.

[Cognizant]

Obama.

[Dimitri]

I am allowed to vote...

President Obama!!!!

[NotYourSombrero]

I want Romney to win for the sole purpose of being able to point out how biased Fox news is and how they have a double standard for the two different parties to a few people. I honestly hate politics because I can think of better things to concern myself with without being lied to constantly.

[Sugaree]

I want Romney to win for the sole purpose of being able to point out how biased Fox news is and how they have a double standard for the two different parties to a few people. I honestly hate politics because I can think of better things to concern myself with without being lied to constantly.

How the hell would a Romney win show how biased Fox News is? If anything, that'll give them an even larger hard on to stroke.

[CourtingErmine]

The auto bailout shouldn't have happened? Are you fucking dumb? The government would have lost its 30% share in General Motors had the company not been bailed out. On top of that, the unemployment rate would have skyrocketed to at least 14 percent and we'd be in a deeper hole than we're already in.

They wouldn't've gone out of business, just through bankruptcy, albeit a worse bankruptcy. Even if they went out, mechanic business' around the nation are looking for help. GM and Chrysler wouldn't've gone out of business.

[jake54]

I'm with obama because two of the slogans romney has used that i've heard are to "pray the gay away" which i 100% disagree with and another was "keep america, america" and maybe or maybe not coincedentally in the 1920's the Ku Klux Klan's slogan was "keep america american"

[CourtingErmine]

I'm with obama because two of the slogans romney has used that i've heard are to "pray the gay away" which i 100% disagree with and another was "keep america, america" and maybe or maybe not coincedentally in the 1920's the Ku Klux Klan's slogan was "keep america american"
Uh, what. Those aren't even close to his slogans. Try again. First, why would hr use an antigay slogan when roughly 1/2 of the gay population will vote for him. Second, why would use an anti-minority slogan when roughly 1/8 of minorities will vote for him. Think.

[Dietchy_Peach]

Only sheeptards would want either in office.

Bearing that in mind, why the big focus on the presidential election, the real power, and corruption, is in the Senate and House of Reps. that's where all the big lobbyists go to lobby. any politician will sing the song he has to sing to get into office.

I'm with obama because two of the slogans romney has used that i've heard are to "pray the gay away" which i 100% disagree with and another was "keep america, america" and maybe or maybe not coincedentally in the 1920's the Ku Klux Klan's slogan was "keep america american"

Their are bigger fish to tackle than gay marriage, it's pretty much legal anyways and is mainly at the state level, so for your opinion to be almost solely based on his stance against gays is retarded at best.

It's not just that. in 4 years Obama:
Killed Osama Nin Laden
Toppled and killed Gaddhafi
Kim Jong Il died during his watch
Mubarak stepped down
Took care of the people on Wallstreet
Came out to fully support my rights
He is winning the war on religion
He saved illegal immigrant
He is saving this economy
He got free universal healthcare passed.

Please tell me what did George Bush do besides waste trillions of money and sent millions of lives in harms way over oil.

Oh and very classy sending neg rep saying "Commi Bama is the worst president ever."

you do know that Ghadaffi had figure head power right, and has been one of the middle eastern scapegoats since the 60's right? took care of the people on wallstreet? yeah sure if giving away the tax payers money to the wealthy gone bankrupt is helping. saving the economy? im pretty sure all those trillions of dollars only served in increasing the poverty gap. "free" universal healthcare? do you know who pays for that? saved illegal immigrants? they are called illegal for a reason, they illegally slipped passed our border, and he wants to give them welfare benefits. There is no such thing as winning a religious war, just as their is no such thing as winning a religious debate, he had nothing to do with the death of N. korea's dictator. Bush may have sent the troops over, but Obama didn't bring them back. he sent troops to help a slaver's rebellion in lybia, with lybia having one of the largest oil reserves in the world.

Please don't double post. Use the edit button instead. -Gigablue

[randomnessqueen]

romney does some stupid things
like wearing brown face when talking to hispanic people
and using a former slogan of the kkk as his own

[Pierce]

Obama cause Romney and Ryan are homophobic and will probably get rid of that gay community has worked so hard to achieve like dont ask dont tell and gay marriage in soem states. I believe that Romney wotn eb able to keep religion and governemnt seperate whichj is key to a succesful government. If not Obama then Ron Paul.

[Fester Jester]

Hmm.. Not Obama.. I didnt like him from the start.. But one of him more recent ad campaigns said something offensive to the Chinese. I dont quiet remember the exact words but the know the word "cheaters" was used. And honestly i dont want that kind of person in office. Also, i've found in some of his speeches all of it was B.S. talk, not much about what he'll do for us.. I dont really like either of them but if i could vote, i'd vote for Romney..

[Haunted]

I would vote for Romney. I can agree with him, he is a hard worker, and he knows what he is doing. Obama doesn't do what is best for the country. "Change we can believe in" was his old campaign slogan. What kind of change did he mean? He didn't improve anything. Also, I don't think he respects America as much as he should. Just one example is he didn't put the reef on the grave of the unknown soldier, he had someone else do it. No president has ever done that. He is not respecting our troops the way he should.

[Aajj333]

When I got to the first day of school and say how insane obamas lunch plan crap is I say Romney but when I hear Romney doesn't support gay marriage I went back to Obama :confused:

[cromartywdl]

Obama, because all Romney wants to do is cut taxes for the wealthy( trickle down economics) which has been proven many times that it doesn't work and will never work especially in our situation.

[vitorioso]

Oh my lord. There is NO way that I would vote for Romney, on the following reasons:

*He doesn't know ANYTHING about struggles in this current economy, and it is obvious that he is incompetent in working on anything pertaining to improving the middle class.

*His views on changing social security are strange in the least, and would drastically affect my grandmother who relies on social security.

*He has a very negative approach to immigration, which is a large no-no to my entire family who has immigrated to the US from Brazil and Sweden.

*I really don't want to partake in religious discrimination, but he is Mormon. That automatically means that he is against homosexuality and follows some of the most ridiculous "traditionalist" values that I have ever seem from a religion.

*He's fake and his entire living family grew up in riches.

*His wife seemed to have never worked a freaking day in her entire life.

The list goes on and on. Do I need to say more?

[ReginaGeorge]

Under aged, and Australian, but 100% for Obama. :P

[adc1031]

If you have a heart you would vote for obama he cares about american citizens. He signed a bill in 2010 that kids with preexisting conditions wont be denied health insurance. He's done so much ended a war that had nothing to do with us. You want to know why were in so much debt is because of that war in first place.. He just knows what americans go through because he was one.

[adc1031]

Only sheeptards would want either in office.

Bearing that in mind, why the big focus on the presidential election, the real power, and corruption, is in the Senate and House of Reps. that's where all the big lobbyists go to lobby. any politician will sing the song he has to sing to get into office.



Their are bigger fish to tackle than gay marriage, it's pretty much legal anyways and is mainly at the state level, so for your opinion to be almost solely based on his stance against gays is retarded at best.



you do know that Ghadaffi had figure head power right, and has been one of the middle eastern scapegoats since the 60's right? took care of the people on wallstreet? yeah sure if giving away the tax payers money to the wealthy gone bankrupt is helping. saving the economy? im pretty sure all those trillions of dollars only served in increasing the poverty gap. "free" universal healthcare? do you know who pays for that? saved illegal immigrants? they are called illegal for a reason, they illegally slipped passed our border, and he wants to give them welfare benefits. There is no such thing as winning a religious war, just as their is no such thing as winning a religious debate, he had nothing to do with the death of N. korea's dictator. Bush may have sent the troops over, but Obama didn't bring them back. he sent troops to help a slaver's rebellion in lybia, with lybia having one of the largest oil reserves in the world.

Please don't double post. Use the edit button instead. -Gigablue

Who are u to say their illegal ur illegal as well is all of us, would if u were in their situation trying to live in a better place.

[Avenged]

Steven Colbert... Easily, in all honesty.

[Silver Fox]

I am not american but if I was I would definitely be voting for Obama. If you look it up, you will see that in romneys first debate, he told about 50 myths and also, you say Obama screwed this country up, he has greatly improved your economy And also has given free health care to people who need it, and also, Romney originally said that he was going to scrap free medical care but he then immediately changed his mind. Look up "Romnesia"