Legal Drinking age

[Professional Russian]

Since theres a thread in TWPR about drinking i firgured id make one about drinking ages here.

What age do you think you should be allowed to drink at? Why?
What do you think of the legal Drinking age where you live?


Heres my theory: in the U.S. you cant drink till your 21. Now if you can go fight for your country when your 18 why cant you go to the bar and have a beer. If you can sign your life away and maybe die before your 21 why cant you drink?

[Jess]

isn't it because at 18 your brain is still developing?

I don't care because I will never drink.

to be honest I think 21 is a good age.

[Sugaree]

I've had discussions with my parents when the drinking age was still 18 eons ago. The thing about the drinking age in the 20th century was 18 for beer/wine and 21 for hard liquor. This seems reasonable to me.

[Neptune]

I think the legal age should be 21 if you have a regular ID and 18 if you have a military ID.

[Sugaree]

I think the legal age should be 21 if you have a regular ID and 18 if you have a military ID.

Why 18 if you have a military ID?

[Lost in the Echo]

The age I think you should be able to drink at is 18, I guess because that's when you become an adult. The legal drinking age in Ohio ( where I live at ) and in the U.S. is 21, but in Ohio and some other states it is actually legal for an underage person to drink as long as they are supervised by their parents. I actually drink about 2-3 times a week, but I have a high tolerance level to alcohol, so I rarely get drunk, but when I do get drunk I don't do stupid shit.

[Neptune]

Why 18 if you have a military ID?

If you will serve and die for your country, I think you should be able to buy alcohol.

[Korashk]

If you will serve and die for your country, I think you should be able to buy alcohol.
This "argument" is a non-sequitur. Military service and drinking alcohol are in no way related. I may not be in favor of any restrictions on the sale and consumption of any drugs, but segregating the population is never a good idea.

[Coolboi]

should be 18 you can fight war an live on your own wtf right ! it's 21 here an it's wrong 18 am I'm out of here !

[Sugaree]

If you will serve and die for your country, I think you should be able to buy alcohol.

That doesn't give you special privileges. Not in the least bit. Those who serve in the military receive benefits from the government for their service. You're putting military men and women above the average citizen, which is absolutely disgusting.

[Professional Russian]

Heres my theory: in the U.S. you cant drink till your 21. Now if you can go fight for your country when your 18 why cant you go to the bar and have a beer. If you can sign your life away and maybe die before your 21 why cant you drink?

I think the legal age should be 21 if you have a regular ID and 18 if you have a military ID.

Looks like someone tried to steal my theory.....

That doesn't give you special privileges. Not in the least bit. Those who serve in the military receive benefits from the government for their service. You're putting military men and women above the average citizen, which is absolutely disgusting.

Why is it "Absolutely Disgusting" to put a soldier that fought for your right to free above other people. Theres people that their asses all day and do nothing get welfare because they wont go to work but the people who fought for your freedom deserve nothing? I think i might go kill myself now

[Jupiter]

Why is it "Absolutely Disgusting" to put a soldier that fought for your right to free above other people. Theres people that their asses all day and do nothing get welfare because they wont go to work but the people who fought for your freedom deserve nothing? I think i might go kill myself now

It is stupid to think that just because someone has a death wish and wants to fight for the bad guy that they automatically are better than others. As for the "theres people that their asses all dayand do nothing get welfare because they wont go to work" WHAT THE FUCK. Do you have a job? I don't know how easy you think it is to get a job for a man who is 53 years old and has cancer. Or how about a mother of 3 who has to have time off to see her kids perform or do their sports. My mother is on unemployment and my dad is on disability, and they both certainly need it, considering this weekend we had NOTHING to eat. So how about before you assume everyone who is on welfare isn't trying, why don't you think of this post right here and get your head back into where the sun can shine.

Now, if you go kill yourself, why don't you just go into the army, because at least then you believe you'll have a cause.

[Professional Russian]

It is stupid to think that just because someone has a death wish and wants to fight for the bad guy that they automatically are better than others. As for the "theres people that their asses all dayand do nothing get welfare because they wont go to work" WHAT THE FUCK. Do you have a job? I don't know how easy you think it is to get a job for a man who is 53 years old and has cancer. Or how about a mother of 3 who has to have time off to see her kids perform or do their sports. My mother is on unemployment and my dad is on disability, and they both certainly need it, considering this weekend we had NOTHING to eat. So how about before you assume everyone who is on welfare isn't trying, why don't you think of this post right here and get your head back into where the sun can shine.

Now, if you go kill yourself, why don't you just go into the army, because at least then you believe you'll have a cause.

Notice the part where i say there Are.There AremI didnt say everybody i said there are alot of peope on welfare that do nothing. I saw it happen. Thats why welfare needs to be eliminated most people sit there and take the governments money because they know they can. Ive watched it happen before thats why i believe that welfare needs to be elomonater. Disability and Unemployment arent welfare either .

[Jupiter]

Notice the part where i say there Are.There AremI didnt say everybody i said there are alot of peope on welfare that do nothing. I saw it happen. Thats why welfare needs to be eliminated most people sit there and take the governments money because they know they can. Ive watched it happen before thats why i believe that welfare needs to be elomonater. Disability and Unemployment arent welfare either .

I didn't mean to say that she was on unemployment. She is on welfare.

And if it is terminated, it will do more bad than good. But this isn't what the debate is about....

Legal age is fine, personally, I think that alcohol should be outlawed, but that'll never happen and I don't care enough to do something about it.

[XxAssasiNxX]

in australia its 18 to drink and drive. its stupid because those kids do stupid things and each night on the news you see somewone kill themselvs along with everywone else in the car for speeding. when you look at the car theres no chance of survival. so i think 21 is a better age than 18..

[Peace God]

Heres my theory: in the U.S. you cant drink till your 21. Now if you can go fight for your country when your 18 why cant you go to the bar and have a beer. If you can sign your life away and maybe die before your 21 why cant you drink?
that's not your theory. just an extremely common and flawed argument spewed from the mouths of people who think that serving our military is a noble and mature decision (its not btw).
I think that alcohol should be outlawed, but that'll never happen
*sigh* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fFydWEe61B4/TpMj6hOrwtI/AAAAAAAACpg/Qk92gRJwnPc/s1600/prohibition1.jpg

it was a massive failure too and was responsible in many ways for the emergence of organized crime.

http://mortarandpistol.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ngbbs4aa48100ae0b0.jpg

...this is basic american history -___-

[Jupiter]

that's not your theory. just an extremely common flawed argument spewed from the mouth of people who think that serving our military is a noble and mature decision (its not btw).

*sigh* (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States)

image (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fFydWEe61B4/TpMj6hOrwtI/AAAAAAAACpg/Qk92gRJwnPc/s1600/prohibition1.jpg)

it was a massive failure too and was responsible in many ways for the emergence of organized crime.

image (http://mortarandpistol.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/ngbbs4aa48100ae0b0.jpg)

...this is basic american history -___-

I know this happened. I suppose I should elaborate on my statement. I would love it iif alcohol was never invented because of my experience with it in my family. It would never work, but I wish I could.

[Azunite]

Ya Allaaaaah! Indifelz still debating over whether to drink that poisonous nectar at an earlier age or not!

[SLABBS]

i think that you should be able to drink at 18. but the should enforce drunk driving more on teens. i drink casually with friends. if were mature enough to handle it at 16 and 17 im pretty sure 18 year olds will do fine :P

[Sugaree]

Why is it "Absolutely Disgusting" to put a soldier that fought for your right to free above other people. Theres people that their asses all day and do nothing get welfare because they wont go to work but the people who fought for your freedom deserve nothing? I think i might go kill myself now

No, you've missed the point entirely. Men and women in the armed forces are ordinary citizens, just like you. They don't need to be put on a pillar of excellence just because you fool yourself into being a patriot. Most people in the armed forces don't even WANT to be looked at that way. They do what they do, that's it. All they want are the benefits guaranteed to them by the government and nothing else. Stop acting like they're gods among us peasants. And if you're going to kill yourself, please, try to clean up.

[Abigballofdust]

I see America is pretty hard with the drinking ages and to be honest, I think that's not the best solution.
Europe is pretty liberal, while most countries are 18+, some allow drinking earlier, depending on the alcohol level and where the drinks are sold (for example in Italy you can order something in a bar from 16 years of age but can't buy it in a shop till you're 18; France allows home alcohol consumption at any age, but public is limited to 18+, etc...)
I think people will drink during their teenage years no matter how hard you push on them with laws, therefore a strict regulation isn't the best solution, really. Finding a compromise is needed because for many teenagers, the sole idea of 'illegal' makes everything more interesting.

I also see some people brought up the military thing, well, I'm from a country that's been under a totalitarian regime until little more than 20 years ago. I know what it means to have a whole segment of upper class citizens which you can only watch as they get all kinds of bonuses for doing nothing while you work your ass off to get to the end of the month.

[Thunderstorm]

Yeah, I think 21 is a good age. Alcohol isn't good for the young body. like jess said above, 18 is still young and even though girls stop growing, boys can grow much longer past 18, sometimes well into their 20s.Also the responsibility of drinking at 21 is easier to handle than at 18. How many kids below the limit get drunk and drive or do something stupid? A lot! and not that men and women in their 20s don't, they do, but they may be more responsible and know to call someone for a ride home, instead of a teen who wants to drive their new car 115 mph down the parkway.
http://www.ehow.com/info_8111664_effects-alcohol-teens-body.html

[StoppingTime]

Why is it "Absolutely Disgusting" to put a soldier that fought for your right to free above other people. Theres people that their asses all day and do nothing get welfare because they wont go to work but the people who fought for your freedom deserve nothing? I think i might go kill myself now

You know the Constitution of the land you love with all your heart, might, soul, etc... so on and so forth...... Right?

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in
Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the
Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the
Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or
Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.



I bolded the important part....
People in the Army are not above the law, nobody is.

[MisterSix]

In NZ you can drink as much as you like at any age if you are with your parent/guardian. And at 18 you can go out and buy, and drink, all the booze you want.

I think this system is fine

Edit: The only time the army is above the law is in martial law... but then again they are the law, so they can't be above themselves.
Either way, its off topic and should go to a different thread

[StoppingTime]

In NZ you can drink as much as you like at any age if you are with your parent/guardian. And at 18 you can go out and buy, and drink, all the booze you want.

I think this system is fine

How would this be enforced?

[MisterSix]

How would this be enforced?

Your parents should enforce it.
It's not like a parent is going to get their child drunk.

I think it's better than a govt. trying to micro-manage everyones lives

[Neptune]

That doesn't give you special privileges. Not in the least bit. Those who serve in the military receive benefits from the government for their service. You're putting military men and women above the average citizen, which is absolutely disgusting.

Yes, I'm putting military men and woman above the average 18-21 year old citizen. I don't care whether you think it is disgusting or not.

Looks like someone tried to steal my theory.....

I didn't ''steal'' your theory. It is a common belief. Your beliefs aren't copyrighted, you know.


Are you two really suggesting that people in the military should be above the law?

Not at all. I'm just suggesting that the law changes to allow people in the military to drink alcohol even if they are underage, if they wish. If it became law, then people in the military wouldn't be ''above'' the law.

[StoppingTime]

Yes, I'm putting military men and woman above the average 18-21 year old citizen. I don't care whether you think it is disgusting or not.


But why is the more important question here. They are doing a service, willingly, for their country. Why do they deserve A benefit like that? Because they are "better?" What does that even mean?

[Sugaree]

Yes, I'm putting military men and woman above the average 18-21 year old citizen. I don't care whether you think it is disgusting or not.

But why are they so special to be above the law? Get over it and deal with the fact that military men and women are subject to the same laws as everyone else.

[therunaway]

I think 18, if you're considered an adult at that age, and you can buy tobacco, why not alcohol?

[HumbleBumble]

In Denmark, you're allowed to purchase alcohol at the age of 16 :P
Unless it's < 16,8 % Then you have to be 18.

Although nobody cares.. I could easily go into a grocery store, and buy the strongest booze available, and mostly, they wouldn't question my age :P

But then again, I envy you Americans. You can drive a car at the age of 16 :[

[Azunite]

Why is it "Absolutely Disgusting" to put a soldier that fought for your right to free above other people.

If you will serve and die for your country, I think you should be able to buy alcohol.

Are you two really suggesting that people in the military should be above the law?

*sniff sniff*

http://flagartist.com/FLAGARTIST/flags/S/sodipodi_flags_germany_swastika.svg

[Thunduhbuhlt]

18 for everybody seems the best. You are an adult, why can't you drink too. But it's not like a lot of 18, 19, and 20 year olds in college really care about the drinking laws.

[double r]

18 you become a adult and as an adult you should be responsible enough to take responsibilities for your action and drinking liquor or wine is one.
But since Americans abuse this depressant, we lost our privilege.
Notice: Less drunk drivers in Europe than America

[Sugaree]

18 you become a adult and as an adult you should be responsible enough to take responsibilities for your action and drinking liquor or wine is one.
But since Americans abuse this depressant, we lost our privilege.
Notice: Less drunk drivers in Europe than America

Would you mind sourcing that claim?

[Jacketh]

It's 18 in the UK to buy it, and I see no problem with it being that.