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[slut bunwullah]

Is absinthe classed as a spirit or a drug?

Also, LSD's Are Non Addictive, right?

[serial-thrilla]

I believe absinthe is a spirit. LSD is not addictive however a person with an addictive personality can get addicted to almost anything.

[slut bunwullah]

Thank god for that..

[Sapphire]

Absinthe is a spirit.
Yet, spirits are alcoholic drinks and alcohol is a drug.

LSD isn't addictive. It is, however, a very bad drug to take. All it takes is one bad trip for you to do something incredibly stupid and/or dangerous without being aware of the reality of the situation.

[Cap'nCrunch]

Asking what a class a chemical belongs to is like asking someone what their favorite color is: it's a matter of opinion. I'd call it a drug, because I think "spirits" describe alcoholic drinks.

And to confirm what the previous posters said, LSD is not physically addictive, and also is also NOT LIKELY to be psychologically addictive. From my experience, it is neither. However, I would also say that it is not "a bad drug to take." I disagree with that statement, but because of the forum restrictions, I can't say that it IS a good drug.

[serial-thrilla]

it all depends on how you think. In all honestly i love psychedelics, Mainly because they are not addictive and they give you a chance to see and notice things that you wouldnt normally. It also gives you a chance to reflect on your life and think of ways to improve it. Although im not advocating drugs i believe that when used responsibly no psychedelic drug is really that harmful to you.

[JoshDude]

People can become addicted to almost anything. So LSDs could become overwhelming to some people, and addictive.

[Sapphire]

it all depends on how you think. In all honestly i love psychedelics, Mainly because they are not addictive and they give you a chance to see and notice things that you wouldnt normally. It also gives you a chance to reflect on your life and think of ways to improve it. Although im not advocating drugs i believe that when used responsibly no psychedelic drug is really that harmful to you.

And to confirm what the previous posters said, LSD is not physically addictive, and also is also NOT LIKELY to be psychologically addictive. From my experience, it is neither. However, I would also say that it is not "a bad drug to take." I disagree with that statement, but because of the forum restrictions, I can't say that it IS a good drug.
Not a bad drug to take?! Not really that harmful?!
Since when has taking a Class A drug which can adversely affect you physically and psychologically been not been a bad thing?

[I'm cool like spongebob]

i agree with carole

[serial-thrilla]

Not a bad drug to take?! Not really that harmful?!
Since when has taking a Class A drug which can adversely affect you physically and psychologically been not been a bad thing? clearly you've been brainwashed by government propoganda. Simply saying that it is a class A drug really means nothing. Some psychedelics have been proven to be less toxic to your body then over the counter pain medication, as long as the user only uses the drug very occasionally. The only real danger of such drugs is loosing your mind during your trip. A simple way to avoid this danger is to not take more then you think you should, and never take these drugs when your feeling depressed. Since there is a large portion of people who are always depressed i would definatly not recomend this type of drug to them.

[Cap'nCrunch]

Not a bad drug to take?! Not really that harmful?!
Since when has taking a Class A drug which can adversely affect you physically and psychologically been not been a bad thing?


That sounds like an opinion to me. Just because the government has classified a substance as "harmful," that doesn't make it true. I've done plenty of drugs, and my brain works finer than ever. And LSD is Schedule I in America. I assume that's where you live.

But wait, LSD is in the same category as.... MARIJUANA??? Wow, that must be some harmful shit. If the government is going to call cannabis harmful, they might as well say LSD is.

[Sapphire]

I live in England and LSD is not in the same class as weed. Atm weed is Class C (hopefully going to be put back to Class B) and LSD is Class A.

[serial-thrilla]

Too bad those classes mean absoulutly nothing, especially since a british study found that marijuana lsd and extacy are all less harmful to your body then legal drugs like tobacco and alcohol.

[Cap'nCrunch]

Too bad those classes mean absoulutly nothing, especially since a british study found that marijuana lsd and extacy are all less harmful to your body then legal drugs like tobacco and alcohol.

I seriously doubt that ecstasy is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. Ecstasy is essentially methamphetamine, so there's nothing good about it

but no doubt that E, LSD and weed are less addictive

[serial-thrilla]

I seriously doubt that ecstasy is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol. Ecstasy is essentially methamphetamine, so there's nothing good about it

but no doubt that E, LSD and weed are less addictive ecstacy is actually quite different from methamphetamine, but thats beside the point. heres the article for anyone who cares.... http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/199734/study_finds_marijuana_lsd_and_ecstacy.html

[Sapphire]

Basically you can get imprisoned for seven years for possessing a Class A drug. I think it is five years for Class B and then three for Class C.

The most drug related deaths each year are caused by tobacco and alcohol. But I think that has more to do with the fact that they are widely avaliable and more socially acceptable than those which have been prohibited.

[serial-thrilla]

i believe that alcohol and tobacco cause more deaths then 90% of the illegal drugs are even capable of. Just because the government believes its ok doesent make that true. People will almost never die from using psychedelic drugs no matter what class that they are in, thats the only type of drug that i really care to defend just because people have so much wrong information about them.

[Cap'nCrunch]

ecstacy is actually quite different from methamphetamine, but thats beside the point. heres the article for anyone who cares.... http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/199734/study_finds_marijuana_lsd_and_ecstacy.html

I'm with you that people are extremely misinformed about psychedelic drugs, but I'm not one of them.

Ecstasy = MDMA = MethylenedioxyMETHAMPHETAMINE

After using ecstasy, one will test positive for methamphetamine. Although the methylenedioxy group changes the effects of the methamphetamine, it's still an analog of methamphetamine

[serial-thrilla]

i agree that chemical wise they are similar but the highs should be very different.

[byee]

which goes to show you how meaningless drug clasifications are, and what they say, huh?

Think about what LSD does, how it makes you feel. And then ask yourself how it does it. Then ask yourself if it can do all that, how it could do it harmlessly. How could it create those effect and have no other effects, too.

There's a reason it's called 'Acid' (not just it's nick, either).

Spend some time Googling, and see what you find.

[serial-thrilla]

when used very occasionally, lsd really would not create very much damage to your body. however if you already suffer from mental illnesses then lsd is definatly a bad drug to take.

[Serenity]

however if you already suffer from mental illnesses then lsd is definatly a bad drug to take.

As opposed to a good drug to take if you suffer from a mental illness? .....or at all?

[serial-thrilla]

As opposed to a good drug to take if you suffer from a mental illness? .....or at all?well yes if you suffer from a mental illness there are drugs that you can take to reduce the problem, im not a doctor so im not sure which perscription drugs should be used for whichever mental illness, but it is very common to be given medication. And for using it at all, i believe that it is a personal choice. If you feel like your in the right state of mind for an acid trip and youve done your research and kind of know what to expect then its totally up to you and not really for any of us to say you should or shouldnt. Its an experience, like skydiving etc. Drugs like this kind of force you to confront your problems, instead of avoiding them, i guess you could say alot of what phychedelics do is kind of make you reflect on how you live life. Many people can do that without drugs but some people cannot, and i believe it should be a personal choice.

[Serenity]

Ooo gotcha. Cool, I never knew that.

[byee]

when used very occasionally, lsd really would not create very much damage to your body. however if you already suffer from mental illnesses then lsd is definatly a bad drug to take.

How do you know this? Or, are you confusing wishful thinking for reality? Remember, it's called 'Acid' for a reason.

well yes if you suffer from a mental illness there are drugs that you can take to reduce the problem, im not a doctor so im not sure which perscription drugs should be used for whichever mental illness, but it is very common to be given medication. And for using it at all, i believe that it is a personal choice. If you feel like your in the right state of mind for an acid trip and youve done your research and kind of know what to expect then its totally up to you and not really for any of us to say you should or shouldnt. Its an experience, like skydiving etc. Drugs like this kind of force you to confront your problems, instead of avoiding them, i guess you could say alot of what phychedelics do is kind of make you reflect on how you live life. Many people can do that without drugs but some people cannot, and i believe it should be a personal choice.

Are you seriously comparing the use of LSD with skydiving?! Although i personally think jumping from an airplane is a bit nuts, it is a PHYSICALLY recreational activity, by which i mean the thrill is the physical sensation of being pulled thru the air by gravity at great speed (again, I think this is nuts).
Either your chute opens and you're ok, with absolutely no side effects or bodily changes, or you hit the earth and make a mess, in which case there's no repeat performance.
With LSD, the 'entertainment' is entirely chemically induced. The experience is caused by a chemical change in the brain. Those chemicals interact with the brain, and cause the sensations. Because they're internal, because the 'thrill' is entirely man made and happening artificially in your brain, there's also the unintended consequence of mucking the natural order of things up there,too. Remember, it's acid. You're putting acid into your brain. And the effects of doing this accumulate, you might not be aware of the subtle changes until many acid trips. It's like smoking. Most don't recognize the changes to their lungs for many years. Until they get cancer.

You're justifying your decision to continue LSD use, you're denying the reality of what the long term effects of LSD use are. Like smokers.

[heartagram72]

LSD is a bad drug for u to take....simply cuz all drugs are bad for u. psychadelics are just less addictive. and weed is NOT that bad for u. the government makes propaganda bout it cuz so many ppl do it.

more ppl die every year from tobacco then all illegal drugs combined.

[serial-thrilla]

How do you know this? Or, are you confusing wishful thinking for reality? Remember, it's called 'Acid' for a reason.



Are you seriously comparing the use of LSD with skydiving?! Although i personally think jumping from an airplane is a bit nuts, it is a PHYSICALLY recreational activity, by which i mean the thrill is the physical sensation of being pulled thru the air by gravity at great speed (again, I think this is nuts).
Either your chute opens and you're ok, with absolutely no side effects or bodily changes, or you hit the earth and make a mess, in which case there's no repeat performance.
With LSD, the 'entertainment' is entirely chemically induced. The experience is caused by a chemical change in the brain. Those chemicals interact with the brain, and cause the sensations. Because they're internal, because the 'thrill' is entirely man made and happening artificially in your brain, there's also the unintended consequence of mucking the natural order of things up there,too. Remember, it's acid. You're putting acid into your brain. And the effects of doing this accumulate, you might not be aware of the subtle changes until many acid trips. It's like smoking. Most don't recognize the changes to their lungs for many years. Until they get cancer.

You're justifying your decision to continue LSD use, you're denying the reality of what the long term effects of LSD use are. Like smokers. k first buddy, dont tell me what you think im doing to "justify" myself, because you really have no clue what im thinking. secondly you really dont understand at all what im saying. doing LSD or any other psychedelic drug is an experiance of a lifetime like skydiving, not to say that its actually LIKE skydiving but i think you know what i mean. And another thing, you do realize that LSD isent actually acid right? I mean its a type of acid but not the stuff that burns through stuff. I agree that using LSD repetitivly is a bad idea. Thats why i called it an experiance, not something that you experience very often. No offence but its kind of useless arguing about this with anyone who has not experianced at least some form of psychedelic trip, you realize things about yourself that you never noticed before. You think of ways to improve your life with things that ring true even when you become sober. Your state of mind becomes very relaxed (if its a good trip) and it gives you a chance to really just think. I am in no way encouraging people to use drugs like this, just to be informed on the facts, and the facts are that there are alot worse things out there.

[byee]

k first buddy, dont tell me what you think im doing to "justify" myself, because you really have no clue what im thinking. secondly you really dont understand at all what im saying. doing LSD or any other psychedelic drug is an experiance of a lifetime like skydiving, not to say that its actually LIKE skydiving but i think you know what i mean. And another thing, you do realize that LSD isent actually acid right? I mean its a type of acid but not the stuff that burns through stuff. I agree that using LSD repetitivly is a bad idea. Thats why i called it an experiance, not something that you experience very often. No offence but its kind of useless arguing about this with anyone who has not experianced at least some form of psychedelic trip, you realize things about yourself that you never noticed before. You think of ways to improve your life with things that ring true even when you become sober. Your state of mind becomes very relaxed (if its a good trip) and it gives you a chance to really just think. I am in no way encouraging people to use drugs like this, just to be informed on the facts, and the facts are that there are alot worse things out there.

It IS acid, look up what LSD is the acronym for. It's acid. Part of it's chemical structure is acid. And although it doesn't burn thru your skin, it CAN burn thru your brain. Even if you do it 'infrequently'. That's how it creates that stuff that you find 'entertaining'. You're mixing up the natural balance of things in your brain! Think that's so wise?

if you want to realize things about yourself, as you proclaim, why not try psychotherapy? Or Yoga? Maybe Transendential Medatation? There are other ways of gaining personal insight without the risk of putting something in your brain that wasn't supposed to be there.

Again, do what you want, but please, don't justify it by saying it's somehow 'safe' or even 'desirable'. You do not have the facts straight.

[serial-thrilla]

It IS acid, look up what LSD is the acronym for. It's acid. Part of it's chemical structure is acid. And although it doesn't burn thru your skin, it CAN burn thru your brain. Even if you do it 'infrequently'. That's how it creates that stuff that you find 'entertaining'. You're mixing up the natural balance of things in your brain! Think that's so wise?

if you want to realize things about yourself, as you proclaim, why not try psychotherapy? Or Yoga? Maybe Transendential Medatation? There are other ways of gaining personal insight without the risk of putting something in your brain that wasn't supposed to be there.

Again, do what you want, but please, don't justify it by saying it's somehow 'safe' or even 'desirable'. You do not have the facts straight. Im not sure why you keep dwelling on lsd, im talking about phychedelic drugs in general, there are quite a few you know. since youve never used any of them, i cant really discuss the pros and cons with you because you really dont know what any of them are like. It isent just complex patterns and things moving, you actually think different, and this can be relaxing and/or a spiritual experiance for people.

[byee]

Im not sure why you keep dwelling on lsd, im talking about phychedelic drugs in general, there are quite a few you know. since youve never used any of them, i cant really discuss the pros and cons with you because you really dont know what any of them are like. It isent just complex patterns and things moving, you actually think different, and this can be relaxing and/or a spiritual experiance for people.

is caused by mixing up the chemicals in your brain, regardless if it's LSD or other psychedelics! This idea that 'you don't know unless you've tried' is a justification, too, because you only have to know how these drugs work. Trying them only gives you the experience. Like jumping from that plane, one should be able to figure out in advance the wisdom of doing so. After the fact, it becomes a rationalization, something we do to feel better about continuing something that might not be such a good idea in the first place.

[serial-thrilla]

well it helped me out for one. I kind of had a revelation during my first psychedelic trip. It help me cut my addiction to weed. It helped me look into the reasons why i started to smoke weed in the first place and why i didnt need to do it anymore.

[Cap'nCrunch]

I'm completely with Serial-Thrilla on this. LSD is not acid in the sense that you're using it, IAMSAM. Yes, it stands for d-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide, but if you had a 10th grade knowledge of chemistry, you'd know that just because a compound is an acid, it can't necessarily BURN anything.

And what you call "mucking up the natural order of things" in your brain is what other people call "a religious experience." I've used my fair share of psychedelic drugs, and I maintain a good GPA, I'm not addicted to drugs, I'm not overweight, and I'm not a flat-out idiot. So, what have the drugs done to harm me?

and the following is for heartagram72: "the government makes propaganda bout it cuz so many ppl do it." The government will make propaganda about whatever they want to demonize. If you're smart, you'll do your own thinking, and not automatically take what the government says to be truth.