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Ace_of_Spades
June 17th, 2012, 01:48 AM
So my boyfriend and i have been dating for a few months now and we were really close, but he is very religious. So tonight he started telling me that he does not think we can stay together because we will both go to Hell, and he refuses to listen to anything i say. I am an atheist, but i respect his beliefs, but it kills me that after all we have been through, he pretends like none of it existed because he thinks it will save his soul. I begged him to reconsider for hours and cried while i did it, and so he finally said that he would think it over and decide on Tuesday. I don't know what to do. I really love him, and even he said he is doing this because he loves me and wants so save my soul, but i just can't stand it. I've done so much for him and sacrificed so much it kills me that he will just do this. I really want him to get back with me, but i don't know how to convince him he's not going to hell. and i hate having to wait until tuesday. i feel like i am just going to have to wait these 2 days (which will be hell), just to hear him say he's leaving. please tell me if you have any ideas.

Harley Quinn
June 17th, 2012, 03:20 AM
Naturally he's religious and he doesn't want to go against his religious beliefs, however I don't think it's right he's going to break up with you. He should have considered getting into a relationship before actually getting into one and that way it wouldn't come to this. If you've tried talking to him about it I don't think there's much else you can do you just have to hope he realises that it isn't a problem, and that he loves you and what he's thinking is ridiculous. It's good you respect his religion but I don't think you should to this extent where he can actually use it against you. Try writing him a letter explaining why you don't want him to leave etc - letters are usually emotional things and so that may help way more than talking did/would.

Short Circuit
June 17th, 2012, 09:33 AM
Watch the film "Prayers for Bobby, its on you tube. (Have tissues at the ready)

Ace_of_Spades
June 17th, 2012, 06:46 PM
I won c: Now i need sleep...

Thank you for your responses c:

ackmedsgirl666
June 17th, 2012, 08:14 PM
well by what your saying he is very religious and when he says he wants to save ur soul he kinda has a point. god states that same sex couples are sinful and all who do so will go to hell. well he is kinda taking it far and obviously cares more about god and going to hell rather then carry on your relationship with you. hes not being very fair to you.. in my opinion i dont thin this is the right kind of person for you. you need somebody who will have some or all of the same flaws as you. if religion is a problem for you find somebody whos also atheist

therunaway
June 18th, 2012, 02:55 AM
Well if he thinks you're both going to Hell over dating, it's too late, for even being gay, or encountering with you in any sexual way should his belief send him to Hell.

Ace_of_Spades
June 18th, 2012, 10:21 AM
I honestly do not care about sex, and i told him that. He has decided that he will stay with me, because he wants to, he is just nervous because he says he is going against God's will. But i m trying to be as supportive as possible.

Blank
June 19th, 2012, 05:20 AM
Hello AceOfSpades, I'm sorry to hear about your situation, you must be going through a rough time.

I'd like to share with you some advice and from my experience. Some of it might not be exactly pleasing to your ears, but do hear me out, I care for you and God loves you.

First of all, about what Jason said, it's never too late to repent. If you look at the ten commandments, we're all guilty of breaking them. G-d is love, but He is also just, that's why sin cannot go unpunished see? Imagine if you're in a courtroom, and you're been charged for murder, you can't present the fact that you've helped in a nursing home to escape being thrown into jail, hoping that it might somehow neutralize the murder. But G-d loves us so, so much that He sent Yeshua to die for us. Do you know what that means? God suffered temptation and persecution throughout His life for you! And not once did He sin. At the end of His life, He took our punishment and was even forsaken by G-d. Imagine how much physical AND emotional torment He suffered, for you and me! That's how great our G-d is! All we have to do is accept this gift, repent and be saved.

Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Your boyfriend is right when he says that separation will be an act of love. AceOfSpades, I've been in a homosexual relationship myself. I honestly could not wonder why G-d would not allow something that felt so wonderful. I absolutely could not fathom it. I thought He wanted me to be lonely and playing me like a puppet. I spent many nights crying myself to sleep. Now looking back, I realise that, G-d was trying to tell me that He had something better for me! You see my dear friend, G-d created man and woman to function as one flesh. I know that this is going to hurt, but anything else is a perversion. A perversion which I involved myself in. It's like a knife. It's a pretty useful invention isn't it? But in the wrong hands it can result in death. Likewise, G-d saw how homosexuality was hurting me emotionally, physically and also pushing me away from Him. I decided to let G-d change me.

People say that homosexual and heterosexual relationships are the same. Let me tell you that they are not. I have yet to experience a heterosexual relationship myself, but just two years back I would have never imagined myself with a girl. The thought disgusted me. But G-d has fixed my sexuality to allow it to function the way it's supposed to. I just know that when the day G-d gives me a wife, we're going to have the most loving, G-d centered relationship ever. Do I still struggle with homosexual tendencies? Yes I do, but along with it also comes the understanding of how destructive it truly is. You might not be able to see it now because of the fog of sin, but ask G-d to give you the Holy Spirit, that you might see.

I advice that you discuss this further with your boyfriend, and seek the truth yourself. If ever in doubt, just ask G-d to reveal Himself to you. You honestly have no idea how much He loves you. PM me if you have any questions. I'll be praying for you my dear friend.

Ace_of_Spades
June 19th, 2012, 11:10 PM
Yeah, Blank, i'm sorry, but that's just a little too hardcore religious for me :D I am tolerant, but i am not going to let it take over my life. I mean honestly i find how dedicated you are very frightening. You seem like a slave to your beliefs D:

Gordo
June 19th, 2012, 11:27 PM
I'm very, very sure god never, ever stated that same sex couples are going to hell or anything even remotely close to that. Maybe you aren't talking about Christians believe, but if you are, then you're way off.

Christianity and whether you go to hell or not isn't based on your performance, it's based on your relationship with Jesus Christ. If you know Jesus, you're fine. If you ignore him, he'll ignore you in the next life. It's not that big of a deal, really. If you live this whole life ignoring him, why would you suddenly want to be with him when you're dead? Or Him with you?

Man I gotta blog about this, it seems like basic principles of Christianity are being completely ignored.

Just something to think about. There are many, many murderers in heaven because while being incarcerated they came to know Christ.



well by what your saying he is very religious and when he says he wants to save ur soul he kinda has a point. god states that same sex couples are sinful and all who do so will go to hell. well he is kinda taking it far and obviously cares more about god and going to hell rather then carry on your relationship with you. hes not being very fair to you.. in my opinion i dont thin this is the right kind of person for you. you need somebody who will have some or all of the same flaws as you. if religion is a problem for you find somebody whos also atheist

unnamed94
June 19th, 2012, 11:56 PM
Yeah, Blank, i'm sorry, but that's just a little too hardcore religious for me :D I am tolerant, but i am not going to let it take over my life. I mean honestly i find how dedicated you are very frightening. You seem like a slave to your beliefs D:

lol i thought the same. although i can give you my opinion coming from a catholic family in a country which is mainly christian and with a conservative culture. (im not much of a good catholic btw just so you know im not saying stuff because thats what they told me and i have to be like they told me)im asumming you mean him being christian

what blank said is exactly what ive heard people say for a long time regarding homosexuals. you should try to live with your feelings towards men, but you have to live your sexuality as it was meant to be, etc etc. the problem with that is that, in my opinion, its just not right because there are people that are gay and will always be like gay. theres nothing you can do about it. on the other hand what he said about being gay being a sin is true and if i remember correctly there are parts of the bible in which it is stated (although if im wrong on this, that doesnt mean that god approves of homosexuals, because not everything comes from the bible). anyway, being gay would be a sin, it wouldnt matter if he was in a relationship with you or not. even if he broke up with you that wouldnt mean that you both would suddenly become heterosexuals or anything.

@gordo: i would have to check on it but im sure it at least says something about only a relationship between a man and a woman being right. it is considered a sin and the logic is if you sin then you go to hell if you dont confess and truly regret what you did. going to hell or not depends not only on your relationship with jesus but with your actions on earth too (being a sinner could get me into heaven if i dont ignore jesus if i follow your logic). theres nothing wrong with murderers being in heaven if they truly regret what they did because god forgave them

risener
June 20th, 2012, 02:06 AM
read him first corinthians 6: 9-12

Ace_of_Spades
June 23rd, 2012, 02:43 AM
His parents found out. They spoke with him to his pastor, took away his phone and have forbidden him to talk to me. His mother even told me to stop talking to him. He stole back his phone a few times to tell me to email him, that he is sorry, and that he will sneak online later. He loves me, I know, I just do not want to explain here. And I want him to stay with me, but I feel like I have ruined his life. I don't know how his parents found out, but now they know he's gay. I am starting to hate myself for all of this . And it seems like no matter how hard I try I will just lose. Something always happens.