Dirty lyrics being widely accepted, something about it bugs me

[sammy1996]

Ok so this is something i noticed a few days ago and its really bugged me every time i've heard it....
Flo Rida - Whistle is basically him telling a girl to suck his dick with a hint of him doing the stereotypical "order more champagne" bragging thing saying how rich he is and for some reason this is widely accepted as a pop song? i've seen little kids dancing to this singing along like "yey, im blowing a whistle" and im just like -.- really.... i dont know if it bothers me so much because the music i listen to (generally metal/rock etc.....) has such a negative connotation to most of society while filth like that is cool, it just shows how little people listen to lyrics and actually pay attention to the media they consume.

Little rant over :P

[Professional Russian]

I know what your talking about and that is why i am in the past. the first 9 songs on my ippod are ted nugent the next 34 i believe are the beatles the 20 after that are CCR then i just have multiple songs from multiple bands on there in no specific order but i how my first 63 songs on my ipod make you feel better. I have only one song from after 1987 on my ipod and that is the lightening strike by snow patrols. The others are newer songs by old artists or are remakes of old songs

[sammy1996]

Its not that the music is new that is the problem, it's the absolute idiots that listen to it all without quite thinking and then take such negative views on other types of music and the people that listen to it without thinking at all about meaning in the lyrics.
For me it just kind of highlights how fucked up people are now days, as far as i can tell it seems a vast majority of people all care so much about their "badman" reputation and the "i get all the girls" idea, neither of which are good things in the slightest.

[Professional Russian]

My main problem with new music 1(Its not even music it comes out of a computer. how do people call that music? and 2(The lyrics mean nothing. In most music of the past there was meaning behind the lyrics. It might have been hard to figure out but it was there. today most of lyrics mean nothing. at least mean nothing to me. Like Wish you were here by pink floyd. The lyrics in that song have alot of meaning unlike um...um...um I dont really know much new music

[Sugaree]

My main problem with new music 1(Its not even music it comes out of a computer. how do people call that music? and 2(The lyrics mean nothing. In most music of the past there was meaning behind the lyrics. It might have been hard to figure out but it was there. today most of lyrics mean nothing. at least mean nothing to me. Like Wish you were here by pink floyd. The lyrics in that song have alot of meaning unlike um...um...um I dont really know much new music

Jesus Christ, these are the absolute WORST reasons against new music.

[Peace God]

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[Aves]

"I want to fuck you like an animal" -Nine Inch Nails (1994)

New music isn't the only music with dirty lyrics.

Jesus Christ, these are the absolute WORST reasons against new music.

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Plus, there's plenty of new music NOT coming from computers. So stop living in the past take a look around before making some dumbass remark like that.

[sammy1996]

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I know music like this exists from before, some similar is still being produced now, but what annoyed me was its wide use on the radio and little kids loving it, things like it. music by people like GG allin etc wasnt accepted like this, but then again the music you linked is more... extreme

Oh and Professional Russian, you have some stupidly stereotypical views its just idiotic

[Peace God]

I know music like this exists from before, some similar is still being produced now, but what annoyed me was its wide use on the radio and little kids loving it, things like it. music by people like GG allin etc wasnt accepted like this, but then again the music you linked is more... extreme

what about ice cube? he's one of the best selling rappers ever and has been getting radio play since the 80s... none of this is new.


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[Wakesetter03]

This thread = Moral Fag alert

It's music, which is people expressing themself.
If Flo Rida wants to express how he loves blow jobs and champagne, let him.

I'm not saying I like the song, I'm not saying I hate it. However, it's so annoying when people complain about music. This is exactly what started PRMC, which was against Heavy Metal, and only thanks to Dee Snider did Heavy Metal/Rock get away with only a "Explicit Lyrics" sticker, that actually helped Metal/Rock sales. Off topic there...

I digress:

With music it's simple, if you don't like it, don't listen to it.

[Sugaree]

I'm not saying I like the song, I'm not saying I hate it. However, it's so annoying when people complain about music. This is exactly what started PRMC, which was against Heavy Metal, and only thanks to Dee Snider did Heavy Metal/Rock get away with only a "Explicit Lyrics" sticker, that actually helped Metal/Rock sales. Off topic there...

Actually, no, that's a great point. Frank Zappa also made a speech during the PRMC hearings back in 1985. Snider's speech was pretty funny though, especially with how he was dressed and how he acted.

[Amnesiac]

My main problem with new music 1(Its not even music it comes out of a computer. how do people call that music?

This is a completely unfounded statement that has no basis in reality. Today's music is just as "acoustic" as that of the 70s and 80s. Plenty of your artists used synthesizers and tape manipulation, especially the Beatles and Pink Floyd. They weren't playing actual instruments when they took advantage of these inventions. John Lennon relied on tape machines so he didn't have to double-track his vocals. Yet you would avidly defend how they used machines to make music simply because you have a ridiculous bias against modern music. It's the exact same thing you're complaining about, except it happened 40 years ago so it's suddenly acceptable. Only a handful of artists these days rely entirely on autotune and Pro Tools to make their songs, and they're limited to a fraction of the mainstream.

This type of attitude towards music also discourages innovation. How is it "not music"? Why is music only defined by what comes out of standard instruments and a person's mouth? Why can't an artist use a computer to manipulate sounds? What's wrong with that? I'm going to pull out the obvious example of Radiohead as an example of a band that has openly used computers and music editing software to create entire albums of material. They create beats on computers. Thom Yorke has been credited as playing "laptop" on songs in the past. This doesn't mean they're devoid of talent, or are suddenly frauds. It's just a different approach to music-making, and it's yielded amazing things. To say that taking advantage of today's unprecedented technology to create new and exciting music is a bad thing is simply absurd.

and 2(The lyrics mean nothing. In most music of the past there was meaning behind the lyrics. It might have been hard to figure out but it was there. today most of lyrics mean nothing. at least mean nothing to me. Like Wish you were here by pink floyd. The lyrics in that song have alot of meaning unlike um...um...um I dont really know much new music

Pssht. I can tell you with the utmost confidence that Ted Nugent's lyrics probably don't have any meaning at all. Ted Nugent is really nothing more than stereotypical 70s hard rock, a genre that has been so exhausted by shit classic rock radio. I mean, what depth does "Cat Scratch Fever" have? Or "Stranglehold"? The lyrics to those songs don't mean anything at all, they're simply arranged to sound catchy. There are so many songs from the 60s and 70s that are nothing more than love songs sold purely for commercial gain. The first half of the Beatles career was based on writing cheesy teenage romance songs that had little to no meaning whatsoever, save for a handful. Elvis didn't even write his own music. Have you even listened to the Beach Boys' early material? Again, you're making the mistake of only looking to the mainstream to formulate your opinion of modern-day music. You can drive down to your local live music place to find "meaningful" lyrics. We live in an age where any person can pick up a guitar or sit down at a piano with a microphone and laptop and create their own music. Music is more personal and "deep" than it ever has been because it's not limited to a handful of groups that got lucky with a record company. That shitty system is finally coming to an end, and overall, music is becoming more organic than before.

Besides, meaningful lyrics aren't a defining feature of music. A lot of modern music relies purposely on obscure lyrics, meaningless lyrics, or simply no lyrics at all (post-rock is a perfect example of that). Why does "good music" (whatever the fuck that is) require "meaningful" lyrics? I could easily look to Nirvana as an example of a band that has intentionally pointless lyrics, and a singing style that makes the words difficult to understand. That's because the "depth" of many of their songs isn't found in the words, but in the overall sound, the dynamics, melody, volume and mood. Screaming, distorted guitars and fast tempos are the defining qualities of many punk and metal bands, not necessarily the content of their lyrics.

Your arguments are completely unfounded and simply false. I don't think you've earnestly tried listening to any music created after the 80s. You just base your entire opinion of all music created over the past 20 years on a couple of shitty songs you heard on the radio. That's ridiculous.

[Professional Russian]

OK im gonna say it now and now only. I have listened too the same music for years and years. Ive it pushed into my head from many people that new music sucks(New music too me is Rap and pop those are the genres i hate the most). Almost all of the songs i listen too have a meaning behind them too me thats why i like them. If you have any questions ask me now

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Well, as 1000 other things, i don't really mind.I mean, it can even be funny...like the video bellow.But i hardly listen to stuff like that.But one of the bands i listen to, has got something similar:

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And Dope - Bitch (probably some other songs of 'em too), which i like.

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[StoppingTime]

OK im gonna say it now and now only. I have listened too the same music for years and years. Ive it pushed into my head from many people that new music sucks(New music too me is Rap and pop those are the genres i hate the most). Almost all of the songs i listen too have a meaning behind them too me thats why i like them. If you have any questions ask me now

Classic anti-mainstream teen right here:
*The deep meaning of LP and Ted Nugget is DEEEEEEEP*

Open your eyes. Don't generalize.
I'm no music expert like Justin, Tim or AJ but you have to realize that generalizations of all synthesizer/computer generated music is bad is just wrong, as are most generalizations.

[Professional Russian]

Music: My Definiton (http://http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1771112#post1771112) I made this whole tonight and will add on tommorrow. any questions? this hopefully clear up my defintion to music to all of you.

[Mad_Dog]

I have to agree. It bothers me, as well. Which I why I really don't listen to stuff (Read: Pop, Top 40 hits, rap) on the radio much. Meh. To each his own.