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Jean Poutine
June 6th, 2012, 03:08 PM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/tory-mp-wants-baird-to-consider-yanking-canada-out-of-un/article4235343/

lolololol.

Another reason why Westminster-style representative democracy is terrible : dimwits get elected on the ticket of a major party because 95% of voters vote for a party, not for a representative. That's not even an excuse though, since that's just typical of Harper's conservatives : they run the country to the ground, reverse the Liberal surplus, get back all the national debt Chrétien paid off during his tenure and then some more, ruin the justice system with stupid "tough on law" bills that do nothing but aggravate the already precarious situation in our overcrowded prisons, then in perfect Conservative style, the UN says we should not cut down on appeals for refugees ordered to leave Canada who may be tortured in their home land, so what do they do? Threaten to take their ball and go home. That's all the tories do, whine and bitch when they get criticized, like spoiled little brats, while they are ruining this once-great country. Perfect clusterfuck.

Harper runs a tight ship so don't tell me this is an isolated incident. He knows and he won't do anything about it because secretly, that's what he wants.

Can't wait for 2015 to throw Harper out. Oh no wait, Oilberta, Dumbtario and petrodollars will keep these fools in. Stupid morons.

Φρανκομβριτ
June 6th, 2012, 05:17 PM
Lol, no it's Onterrible! Don't blame me, I voted Bloc.

Jean Poutine
June 6th, 2012, 08:59 PM
I voted...Conservative. >.>

There's no other viable right-wing party. What's a man supposed to do?

Erasmus
June 6th, 2012, 09:33 PM
I voted...Conservative. >.>

There's no other viable right-wing party. What's a man supposed to do?

So you write half a page on how shit Harper is, yet you still voted for him...

Erasmus
June 6th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Provincial government my friend, provincial.

Oh, ok, never mind then.

Erasmus
June 6th, 2012, 09:47 PM
Wait, does QC even have a conservative party? lol. I'm an idiot.

A provincial Conservative party?

Jean Poutine
June 6th, 2012, 11:09 PM
So you write half a page on how shit Harper is, yet you still voted for him...

I didn't vote for Harper.

He is shit. He's a dictatorial little pseudo-Mussolini, he's dragging our country in the mud and he's a, well, cunt.

Keeping in mind that I wanted to keep the NDP out of my county at all costs, the Conservative party was the only logical choice. I despise the leader, and I despise its socially conservative member base. I despise the fact a little asshole tried to introduce a PMB to reopen the debate on abortion, and I despise that Bev Oda refuses to fund abortions with Canada's international aid money, keeping Third World women from acquiring rights women here have fought for and gotten long ago. This isn't America. We don't vote for a Prime Minister. We vote for an asshole to represent thousands of other assholes and it so happens this asshole is affiliated to a particular party. In fact, the PM office itself technically doesn't even exist, at least, it is not written anywhere. Scour the Constitution (hint : 1867) and look for a "Prime Minister" and you won't find any. It's only an unwritten constitutional convention that the Governor General happens to name PM the leader of the party with the most votes.

We live in a Westminster system, and you have to know how to use your vote to balance out the obvious weakness of first-past-the-post, as well as how seats are awarded. I didn't want the NDP in and my particular county is one of the most right-wing in all of Quebec so I knew that my only hope was to pitch in my vote with the lesser evil, though it is still a considerable evil. Had it been the Liberals I would've voted Liberal.

You have a very naïve, American influenced vision of the right to vote and I can't blame you. Voting for a particular ideology is not to way to go. You have to vote against particular ideologies. The NDP would have made Canada a new Greece (sorry Rudi).

Mortal Coil
June 7th, 2012, 02:47 AM
I'm not well-versed in Canadian politics but this is just.... stupid. Really? Really?

Φρανκομβριτ
June 7th, 2012, 08:56 PM
Lol wow a lot here.

No, Québec has no conservative party, though the Bloc Québécois and Parti Québécois provincially tend to fall under this umbrella. There is also some conservative sides of the new provincial party, Coalition Avenir du Québec.

While I can see why someone would have not wanted to vote for Dalton McGuinty in the passed Ontario election, I still wouldn't have voted conservative myself (But thank you for voting, I appreciate you have an opinion). I do agree that the NPD needs to be stopped. While I do agree with their more liberal views, the unions need to be stopped in this country. It's already fucking ridiculous.

Don't apologise, I'm not actually greek, just speak it. Canada is far from being the next Greece. Canada is an an awesome economical standing point in comparison. Canada is part of the British monarchy (as a Brit, I can appreciate how harper has tied us back to the motherland), and deeply allied with America, giving them a unique standing point. I feel the biggest issues we have to deal with are Immigration especially in to the 3 main cities, the student crisis (although this is more a Québécois issue, the rest of Canada seems to just lay down and take it, and more.

I have to go make bacon now, brb