Whats your view on Homosexuality overall?

[glitterintheair]

Some people disagree, some people agree with the concept. Recent scientific research has shown that it might be a birth trait. Share your opinions? :)

[Harley Quinn]

I believe that some are born homosexual and some have environmental factors influencing them towards homosexuality.

[Light Warrior 7]

Well, I think it's acceptable that there are homosexuals in the world. I mean, it's not their fault that they happen to be like that.

There is a reasong why they are like that ^_^

[Tristin.]

I believe that people are born either gay, lesbian or bi and that your environment and up-bringing can influence it. Personally, i don't think you can agree or disagree on homosexuality as the fact of the matter is, it exists. You can either accept or not accept it, but regardless of your acceptance, i don't think anyone has the right to discriminate against it. :)

[Lovemeorleaveme]

I have a feeling that your not going to get very many homophonic comments because alot of the people who use the teen sexuality section or vt are
probably part of the LGBT spectrum.
Me being bi myself i agree that you are born how your born but for some people the feelings dont make an entrace as quickly as it does for others. The genetics thing mostly makes sence, exept for one thing, you get your genetics from ur parents, right, but a strait couple doesn't mean a strait baby.

[Cognizant]

I believe the issue of your sexuality strings down to your Genes and DNA. Just like chromosomes for Hair or eye color, I believe that what determines your sexuality is coded in your DNA to be that sexuality.
For example, I think a man that's gay is gay because during development the chromosomes containing the "sexuality" gene were told to make him gay.
That also means that the parents could contribiute to their offsprings sexuality, if sexuality is indeed linked to Genes, because obviously the genes are found in the sperm and the eggs.
Sorry for getting so biological about it, but that's what I genuinely think causes homosexuality.

[Ryhanna]

I believe it's natural, and we were all born the way that we are.

I believe that sexuality is a spectrum, and obviously the two extremes are either completely straight or completely gay, with a whole bunch of middle.

[gayprideguy12]

i belive that its all natural, no matter what some scientists say. who you are is what you were born to be.

[OregonStateDude]

Just like chromosomes for Hair or eye color, I believe that what determines your sexuality is coded in your DNA to be that sexuality.

That's exactly what I think. Chromosomes are tricky things. One tiny fluctuation and you could end up with something like Down syndrome. So I fully believe I was gay the minute I popped out of my Mom's body. :eek:

So what's my view? Well, I kinda like it. I like being different (I'm also left-handed).

But I'm not one of those activist types of homosexuals. I don't have rainbows or glitter sparking out of my butt. Being gay is just a minor part of who I am.

[Noirtier]

I am a Christian and, as such, believe homosexuality is wrong according to the Bible. So is judging someone because of it. I believe much of whether one is gay or not has to do with life experiences and their upbringing. I do not judge anyone who is gay because I am a sinner too. Christ didnt just love the righteous--he loved the sinners and spent time ministering to them. Christians are called to love, not to condemn. So that's what I do--regardless of whether you are gay, straight, bi--even if youre a purple rhinosceros, I love. It is NOT my place to judge and never will be, it is my place to love. Therefore, I love and accept everyone--I do not judge them for anything. I believe homophobic Christians need to change what theyre doing because they may be over there yelling homosexuality isnt right according to the Bible, but neither is judging and condemning and avioding people because of it. I have gay friends who I love because that's what I am called to do. This view is rare, I will admit, but I know a few other people from my school who hold the same view--I even have a friend who is going to a gay pride celebration to apologize on behalf of the Church for everyone who has judged them.

[Lovemeorleaveme]

I am a Christian and, as such, believe homosexuality is wrong according to the Bible. So is judging someone because of it. I believe much of whether one is gay or not has to do with life experiences and their upbringing. I do not judge anyone who is gay because I am a sinner too. Christ didnt just love the righteous--he loved the sinners and spent time ministering to them. Christians are called to love, not to condemn. So that's what I do--regardless of whether you are gay, straight, bi--even if youre a purple rhinosceros, I love. It is NOT my place to judge and never will be, it is my place to love. Therefore, I love and accept everyone--I do not judge them for anything. I believe homophobic Christians need to change what theyre doing because they may be over there yelling homosexuality isnt right according to the Bible, but neither is judging and condemning and avioding people because of it. I have gay friends who I love because that's what I am called to do. This view is rare, I will admit, but I know a few other people from my school who hold the same view--I even have a friend who is going to a gay pride celebration to apologize on behalf of the Church for everyone who has judged them.
not all cristens belive its bad to be gay, my friends cristen and bi, but her parents think its wrong, and i feel bad for her, i like what your saying here accept for the fact that your saying that its a sin to be gay but im not gonna tell you your wrong.

[ImCoolBeans]

I think this is more appropriate for the debate section.
Teen Sexuality :arrow: Ramblings of the Wise.

[Aves]

I believe it doesn't matter. :)

[Harley Quinn]

I believe the issue of your sexuality strings down to your Genes and DNA. Just like chromosomes for Hair or eye color, I believe that what determines your sexuality is coded in your DNA to be that sexuality.
For example, I think a man that's gay is gay because during development the chromosomes containing the "sexuality" gene were told to make him gay.
That also means that the parents could contribiute to their offsprings sexuality, if sexuality is indeed linked to Genes, because obviously the genes are found in the sperm and the eggs.
Sorry for getting so biological about it, but that's what I genuinely think causes homosexuality.

Seeing as this is now a debate:

There isn't a sexuality gene, if there was that would make sexuality inherited. It's not. Hair and eye colour is inherited therefore it's a gene. I know I didn't inherit my homosexuality, my parents and everyone in my family is straight.

[liljack13]

nothing wrong with it

[Mortal Coil]

I am a Christian and, as such, believe homosexuality is wrong according to the Bible.
I'm not going to attack your beliefs or interpretation of the bible, but that is a very literal interpretation of that passage. Homosexuality is only mentioned once, and is amongst other commands that tell you shaving and wearing mixed fibers is wrong.

There isn't a sexuality gene, if there was that would make sexuality inherited. It's not. Hair and eye colour is inherited therefore it's a gene. I know I didn't inherit my homosexuality, my parents and everyone in my family is straight.
Exactly. Almost all gay kids have straight parents (the exception being artificial insemination or in vitro) so the idea that it's genetic is downright nonsensical.

I don't care what someone's sexuality is. It's perfectly natural and nobody deserves to be judged or bullied because of who they are attracted to. It's not a choice.

[Harley Quinn]

I'm not going to attack your beliefs or interpretation of the bible, but that is a very literal interpretation of that passage. Homosexuality is only mentioned once, and is amongst other commands that tell you shaving and wearing mixed fibers is wrong.

Ehhhh I'm not even Catholic but I know it's in the old testament, Leviticus 18:22. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." If you listen to that or even think that anything in that book of the bible is something you should follow, I feel sorry for everything you stand for. Plus, that is rather narrow considering it suggests that it only relates to males, yet it's okay to be a woman and lie with a woman. Which to mean shows how flawed and out dated the bible is. Do I hate you because you're Christian? No I hate you because you believe in stupid things.

[Jess]

I firmly believe it's not a choice. But one's environment does have influence. as for whether there's a "gene"...I'm not sure on that...don't think there is one.

I don't care what someone's sexuality is. It's perfectly natural and nobody deserves to be judged or bullied because of who they are attracted to. It's not a choice.

this is my viewpoint as well.

[Noirtier]

I'm not going to attack your beliefs or interpretation of the bible, but that is a very literal interpretation of that passage. Homosexuality is only mentioned once, and is amongst other commands that tell you shaving and wearing mixed fibers is wrong.

The passage I am referring to is in the New Testament, sorry I forgot to mention it. The New Testament and the teachings of Christ are what Christianity is founded upon. Yes, I do believe it is a sin to engage in homosexuality--not to feel the attractions but to act on them. However, lieing is also a sin, stealing is a sin, and judging is a sin. In the end sin is sin and who am I to condemn someone when I myself am no better--I am not perfect and would never claim to be. That is why I consider it my job to love on this earth. That is why I do not judge someone because of anything. I have said what my beliefs and interpretation of the Bible say, but most Christians only get half of it. A line in a song by Casting Crowns highlights what I think the Church needs to do better than I can say it,

"Nobody knows what we're for only what we're against when we judge the wounded
What if we put down our signs crossed over the lines and loved like You did"

Like I said sin is sin. I'm not here to judge, I'm here to love like Christ did. It's not my purpose to judge--it's my purpose to love

[kenoloor]

I have a feeling that your not going to get very many homophonic comments

Yeah, I haven't seen many of those either.

[BassSwagg]

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sorry but i dont see the difference :D

[Tiggz]

i dont think theres anything wrong with it people love who they love regargles of what factors influenced it whether it be your evirment you grew up in or if u were just born like that. the fact of the matter is that we love who we love and in the end were all human beings just like in the Declartion of Independence it states that all men are created equal. and anyone in the LBGT spectrem is no different they are still people that deserve the same rights as everyone else. so to conclude my long post all i have to say is no matter why people are homosexual it dosent matter the fact of the matter is that it exist and that people should accept it adn treat it like a normal part of huma life cause in reality thats what it is human life.

[Cicero]

I'm not going to attack your beliefs or interpretation of the bible, but that is a very literal interpretation of that passage. Homosexuality is only mentioned once, and is amongst other commands that tell you shaving and wearing mixed fibers is wrong.


Exactly. Almost all gay kids have straight parents (the exception being artificial insemination or in vitro) so the idea that it's genetic is downright nonsensical.

I don't care what someone's sexuality is. It's perfectly natural and nobody deserves to be judged or bullied because of who they are attracted to. It's not a choice.

It's not wrong to disagree with homosexuality. The bible mentions homosexuality more than once. What it says about it cannot be interpreted wrong. What I see specifically in this verse, cannot be interpreted wrong:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

That's what the bible says. But honestly, why do people care what the bible says, if they're not Christian? If your gay and athiest, who cares about what the bible says, right?

I hate the type of Christians who riot and protest about anti gay stuff, because that's not what God wants. Jesus Christ, son of God, hung around the worst murderers, rapists, and prostitutes of his day. He didn't go around judging, he helped and slowly lead them to God. Jesus wasn't some extremist like some of the Christians freaks now a days who are jerks and say "gays are going to hell". Their are many fake Christians out there, but when you meet a true Christian, he will not say "Your going to hell so repent.". He will probably try to lead you to Christ slowly.
Also, many people will argue about "your born gay", it seems more common on Vt for people to believe your born gay. But almost everyone I know, say its a choice. If your a good person, I believe that's something that God looks at.

For the record, only the stuff highlighted in blue, is my opinion. The rest is just a comment of the quote I quoted. The stuff in red, is just fact :) (so people don't misinterpret what I believe from what the bible says)
Fyi I am really proud I made this thread so organized :D this is probably my best thread yet haha

[OregonStateDude]

This is the forum where I can speak my mind, right? I don't want to piss anyone off.

Also, many people will argue about "your born gay", it seems more common on Vt for people to believe your born gay. But almost everyone I know, say its a choice.

Sorry, I can't buy into that. Why would I choose this? Why would I choose something where I know there is a strong chance I will be subject to discrimination? It's almost like being Muslim and choosing to live right near where the World Trade Center once was.

I come from a loving family. My mom doesn't drink. My dad doesn't smack her around. So it's not like I chose to be gay just to piss them off and rebel.

I remember when Justin and I were comfortable enough to talk about it, and he asked me how I knew. I told him that I just knew. This tells me that once my mind and body became aware of what sex was, the choice had already been made for me.

[Thunduhbuhlt]

I believe the issue of your sexuality strings down to your Genes and DNA. Just like chromosomes for Hair or eye color, I believe that what determines your sexuality is coded in your DNA to be that sexuality.
For example, I think a man that's gay is gay because during development the chromosomes containing the "sexuality" gene were told to make him gay.
That also means that the parents could contribiute to their offsprings sexuality, if sexuality is indeed linked to Genes, because obviously the genes are found in the sperm and the eggs.
Sorry for getting so biological about it, but that's what I genuinely think causes homosexuality.

I actually agree mostly. Maybe it's some sort of recessive allele and that's why there is a small population of homosexuals, just like people with red hair. That really makes sense to me.

[Harley Quinn]

I actually agree mostly. Maybe it's some sort of recessive allele and that's why there is a small population of homosexuals, just like people with red hair. That really makes sense to me.

If you're being serious, I legit have no words. There isn't a small population, many just haven't come out there's a major difference. There is not a gay gene, are you parents gay? If they are fair enough. But no, if there was a gene, you'd inherit 'gay' and that would make pretty much everyone gay. Your logic is flawed in so many ways.

[Gandalf]

Some people disagree, some people agree with the concept. Recent scientific research has shown that it might be a birth trait. Share your opinions? :)

I think it could be genetic change during reproduction (although I place it as an evoloutional characteristic) but I think it is also environmental effect. Just my opinion.


BTW, your post was hard to read: Font colour

[Cicero]

This is the forum where I can speak my mind, right? I don't want to piss anyone off.



Sorry, I can't buy into that. Why would I choose this? Why would I choose something where I know there is a strong chance I will be subject to discrimination? It's almost like being Muslim and choosing to live right near where the World Trade Center once was.

I come from a loving family. My mom doesn't drink. My dad doesn't smack her around. So it's not like I chose to be gay just to piss them off and rebel.

I remember when Justin and I were comfortable enough to talk about it, and he asked me how I knew. I told him that I just knew. This tells me that once my mind and body became aware of what sex was, the choice had already been made for me.

Yes you can speak your mind. But you might get a few bad reps.

I never said I believe your not born that way. I said that people will argue about the "your born gay" statement.

[Akasuki]

I believe that it is in some peoples DNA, and they can be born gay, grow into it, or never become it. You cannot choose to be gay.
I support it 110%, and I wish it was accepted everywhere. In some states, it's legal to marry your cousin but marrying someone of the same sex? No way... which is bs in my opinion. Let's all support incest, but let's say no to two girls being together!
People suck.

[Perfectly Flawed]

I believe it's the same as being straight. Sexuality is just one factor that goes into a person.

[Thunderstorm]

First of all, people should not be making connections between the bible and old testament, and Homosexuality. It's not right. If two men love each other, let them love each other in peace. If they don't bother youy then don't bother them. How would you like it if your parents thought it was a sin basically for a boy loving a girl they don't like? Or vice versa? Let them be homosexual and worry about your self.

[Cicero]

First of all, people should not be making connections between the bible and old testament, and Homosexuality. It's not right. If two men love each other, let them love each other in peace. If they don't bother youy then don't bother them. How would you like it if your parents thought it was a sin basically for a boy loving a girl they don't like? Or vice versa? Let them be homosexual and worry about your self.

Many people believe they do go together. The bible is viewed as a life guide or manual... So if it talks about everything in life, it should also talk about homosexuality. The thing people don't like is that the bible condemns homosexuality, so they say their should be no connection between the two.

[Bolt]

I've got no right to claim what is right and what is wrong. If their homosexual then so be it. Anyone who is quoting the bible in this just remember multiple people speculate that John the Baptist (if real) was a homosexual.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

We all start out as females. I see no reason why some people might get stuck somewhere in the middle. Besides no one wakes up one day and say "I wanna be gay, sure a majority of society is going to look down on me, but I don't care." Trust me no one would choose that.

[Erasmus]

We all start out as females. I see no reason why some people might get stuck somewhere in the middle. Besides no one wakes up one day and say "I wanna be gay, sure a majority of society is going to look down on me, but I don't care." Trust me no one would choose that.

That is amazingly true.

[abdheuuuchjc]

Irdc if its nature or nurture i support the LGBT community 100%(considering I'm bicurious too )

[kenoloor]

We all start out as females. I see no reason why some people might get stuck somewhere in the middle.

Sex is different from sexual orientation.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

Sex is different from sexual orientation.

Sexual orientation is determined by hormones, what hormones you're body produces more of depends on your sex.

[User Deleted]

I personally believe it is both natural and choice. Nature and nurture. While a small part of me says if I were interested I would either be straight or just be with the person despite sex, yet how I have been raised has changed my mindset, any hormonal feelings have been logically dismissed, it's almost like celibacy, but it is more towards asexuality because it is what I want not a goal.

Homosexuality I believe to be similar. Some people are more open, and others are not. IT can be influenced by hormones and how people were raised. The middle-grounds seems to be bisexuality, an attitude that may vary from "for the person" to "I could get used to it either way." However you don't usually see homosexual people who are slightly homosexual. I believe this to be due to a social barrier against homosexuality. I personally have nothing against it, people deserve freedom to carve their own path in life as long as they are not killing, hurting, ect.

"Homosexuality is unnatural." This is an invalid argument. Anything that exists withing the nature of this universe is natural. Anything that can function on this earth is extremely natural. "You can see it in nature." A valid argument, but this makes a distinction in ones mind between other animals and humans, and claims we are unnatural. We are very much animals being mammals. "But we're more complex than other animals" Sure, we have more complex thought. But if you like drinking alcohol and you know the impacts and keep drinking it then you are taking a risk you have a right to. If every time you drank alcohol someone criticized you for it being "unnatural" and "gross" is no different than to criticize gay people. It is the same for most situations, there is a risk and unless it is killing, hurting, ect. you usually have a right to take it.

Religion and homosexuality. The bible says homosexuality is wrong. "Great! Let's oppress homosexuals!" This still is not a valid argument. Look at Jesus, I'm not Religious, but let's look at him anyway. He was open and accepting to everyone, orientation, religion, anything. He didn't preach unless people asked, and he didn't oppress people. While the bible says homosexuality is wrong and you will be condemned for it (a little extreme, if you ask me) it does not tell you to go stone them, it simply says that there will be consequence. Now with a later consequence it is not asking you to punish and insult homosexuals, it is stating to followers of its word to not be homosexual. The best way, I'm stating this as an ex-christian, to tell people to not be homosexual because they will not go to heaven is by "living in the gospel," following the rules of the bible, and while not rubbing it in others faces being open with people who want to converse like other religious people or curious people from other religion. Then, if they like the teachings they may follow and "repent from their sins" and stop being homosexual. Again, it is not asking you to go punish others.

As I see it two homosexuals who love each-other are more in the right than a straight couple who hates each-other. If you truly love someone you should have the right to spend your life with them, it makes more sense than two people who love each other and are capable of children. The capability to make a child this day in age is not a great thing, a lot of kids need adopting. With that said I believe gay couples have a right to adopt as well.

With god saying it is wrong no longer being a reason to oppress homosexuals, the only other argument that I hear is "eew but it's gross." Straight sex is "gross" too, get over it. There are things called STDs. There is bacteria naturally on our body. In the end it's two people rubbing anus, sounds like a lot of fun to me. Get over it, there are safety precautions that can be taken, so if anything you should start promoting safe sex, get on that campaign those of you that think it's "gross," will ya. Stop trying to oppress your neighbor if you don't want to be oppressed yourself.

[kenoloor]

Sexual orientation is determined by hormones, what hormones you're body produces more of depends on your sex.

You're kidding, right? "Stuck somewhere in the middle" between the male sex and the female sex is a condition known as being intersexed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex) which is vastly irrelevant to sexual orientation.

Sexual orientation is not related to sex hormones. My blood is coursing with way more estrogen than testosterone and yet I'm attracted almost solely to girls. How about masculine gay men? Or feminine straight men? Or masculine straight women? Your theory neither has any valid proof (that you provided) nor does it even make sense when considered in the context of actual people.

[NotYourSombrero]

I believe that you are born like it and its not a decision. I don't believe it should be illegal for anybody to marry each other.

[shatter..]

I am 100% accepting of homosexuality, in my opinion what's not there to accept?

[Lyra Heartstrings]

Honestly, I am completely fine with it. I see nothing wrong with homosexuals..I would say "They didn't CHOOSE this." but..I would be a liar. Like someone else said (I think.), it's hormones..but it's also a choice. You have to tell yourself "I am gay." or "I am not a man, I am a woman." Or, you could never admit this, and just..be straight. It's a choice, and not an easy one.
tl;dr: Yes, I'm fine with it, but it's a choice, as well.

[Aquila]

Homosexuality is 100% okay. Personally i dont really think it has much, if anything to do with genetics, but to be honest, its kinda irrelevent.

What I DONT understand is why homosexuality is still such a big issue. Do you disapprove of gays? Okay, fine. Do you not think they should get married? Good for you. But I dont understand what gives people the right to go out and say "no! I dont care if youre in love!" how will allowing homosexuals to marry negatively impact your life at all?