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Wallingtonboy
May 28th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Make a third section of congress, of the average wotking man, no big time owners or supervisors. Have 10 for each state, and have 2 go to represent the 10 at meetings, that way the building isnt crowded. And the two that go to the mettings must be choosen by the group of ten. And also, no barrel spending anywheres at any time. And give the blue collar group the same amount of power as the rest of congress.
Bougainvillea
May 28th, 2012, 09:49 PM
Make a third section of congress, of the average wotking man, no big time owners or supervisors. Have 10 for each state, and have 2 go to represent the 10 at meetings, that way the building isnt crowded. And the two that go to the mettings must be choosen by the group of ten. And also, no barrel spending anywheres at any time. And give the blue collar group the same amount of power as the rest of congress.
Even then, who knows what those men will be like, and what kind of education they have. They have to have some kind of understanding how the system works, and if they are average working, you can't determine how much knowledge they'll have.
What if they all turn out to be assholes, who claim everything is socialist, and just end up saying "fuck taxes we don't need those". And they JUST FUCK SHIT UP.
Wallingtonboy
May 28th, 2012, 09:55 PM
Or what if theyre the ones who get us out of this stupid repression, make our military greater, and ruin terrorists and socialists and communists. What if they are the ones who fix our fossil fuel problems, and help out gun rights?
Also i dont think george washington was a yale or harvard grad, but he kicked the red coats back to there land, and helped form a great nation. He set the standard for many things. It is us regular folk thqt seem to be doing more for the community/ country, than them stupid politicians could ever do.
Please don't double post, instead use the "edit" button. ~Bath
Bougainvillea
May 28th, 2012, 10:01 PM
Or what if theyre the ones who get us out of this stupid repression, make our military greater, and ruin terrorists and socialists and communists. What if they are the ones who fix our fossil fuel problems, and help out gun rights?
We're already out of the *recession.
And holy fuck, not another one of you.
God damn it, I'm outta here.
Wallingtonboy
May 28th, 2012, 10:25 PM
We're already out of the *recession.
And holy fuck, not another one of you.
God damn it, I'm outta here.
Whqt do you mean "not another one of you" and sir, we are not out of the recession.
Iron Man
May 28th, 2012, 10:27 PM
Whqt do you mean "not another one of you" and sir, we are not out of the recession.
I think he has been quite frank about it.
Cicero
May 29th, 2012, 12:49 AM
I think that would be a horrible idea. Most wealthy people did something right in order to earn their money. I do not know why people think wealthy people sit on their asses and boss people around. For a person to stay wealthy can be tuff. Especially right now. Theirs a lot of wealthy people who worked hard to build up their company. Out of anyone they would inspire me. So I think that America should have powerful people who are wealthy.
But also, that's kinda what senators are for. They are in the government and elected to the government so they can bring their ideas to congress.
Amnesiac
May 29th, 2012, 01:54 AM
Make a third section of congress, of the average wotking man, no big time owners or supervisors. Have 10 for each state, and have 2 go to represent the 10 at meetings, that way the building isnt crowded. And the two that go to the mettings must be choosen by the group of ten. And also, no barrel spending anywheres at any time. And give the blue collar group the same amount of power as the rest of congress.
This is a flawed concept because the reason Congress exists in the first place is to represent everybody, down to and including the "average working man". What's the point of creating another legislative body to perform the exact same function as the other one? That just gives the "lower classes" disproportionate representation compared to the middle and upper classes. Besides, the U.S. legislative branch isn't even based on economic class – this isn't the Estates. It's based on political parties. Creating a system like this would require a complete reconstruction of the political foundation of the United States.
Besides, you'd never get past all the limitations you've come up with. Can only working people vote for the 10 representatives in their state? How do you define what the "average working man" is? Who is "blue collar"? Why is it fair that the "working class" gets more representation, proportionally, than anybody else in the United States? Why should they get an entire section of Congress to themselves, while the middle- and upper- classes – who make up the majority of Americans, by any definition – have to share the House and Senate? What is "barrel spending" and who has the power to limit Congress from passing that?
Also, you're forgetting that the reason why we elect representatives to Congress is to avoid all of the downsides of direct democracy that the Founding Fathers, and earlier Enlightenment figures, wrote so much about. By allowing the average Joe to vote on whatever they want, you're letting their naive attitude towards government seep in. Imagine all the problems we have with Congress voting to take away peoples' rights, or intervening in other countries, and multiply those times ten. Representative government encourages moderation and critical thinking, even to a limited extent.
Or what if theyre the ones who get us out of this stupid repression, make our military greater, and ruin terrorists and socialists and communists. What if they are the ones who fix our fossil fuel problems, and help out gun rights?
So you just want to rebuild the entire government to advance your own political beliefs? Not everybody wants to expand the military, or "ruin" socialists and communists. You've basically just admitted that a "working class" part of Congress would be biased towards conservative ideals, and would have disproportionate voting powers.
Also i dont think george washington was a yale or harvard grad, but he kicked the red coats back to there land, and helped form a great nation. He set the standard for many things. It is us regular folk thqt seem to be doing more for the community/ country, than them stupid politicians could ever do.
There was a lot more to George Washington than his military service. He had a lot of views that would conflict with the United States that exists today.
Professional Russian
June 2nd, 2012, 03:12 PM
Whqt do you mean "not another one of you" and sir, we are not out of the recession.
Im pretty sure hes refering to me
Hatsune Miku
June 2nd, 2012, 04:49 PM
Or what if theyre the ones who get us out of this stupid repression, make our military greater, and ruin terrorists and socialists and communists. What if they are the ones who fix our fossil fuel problems, and help out gun rights?
Also i dont think george washington was a yale or harvard grad, but he kicked the red coats back to there land, and helped form a great nation. He set the standard for many things. It is us regular folk thqt seem to be doing more for the community/ country, than them stupid politicians could ever do.
Please don't double post, instead use the "edit" button. ~Bath
Oh my god.
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Sugaree
June 2nd, 2012, 08:44 PM
Whqt do you mean "not another one of you" and sir, we are not out of the recession.
Im pretty sure hes refering to me
He's actually referring to the far right fringe that, apparently, has an attraction to this site now.
As for OP's idea, you're going nowhere fast. You're assuming that these people won't be lobbied and bought out by special interest groups like every representative on the floor.
Jean Poutine
June 3rd, 2012, 04:44 PM
Congress is already deadlocked like every other bill and this guy wants a third section.
Fucking brilliant. There's a reason why more and more countries are getting rid of their second house. Either because it's useless or because it creates many more problems than it solves.
wild1
June 8th, 2012, 12:47 PM
OMG its sooo hard dragging this wooley mamouth I just killed...hmmm what if i put a round rock under it? :yes:
Bharris13
June 9th, 2012, 09:05 AM
Even though the plan may work in an idealistic world - this is the real one. MOST politicians and indeed most people are selfish - they want to have it all for free. That is the way the world works.
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