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maximan
June 19th, 2005, 11:45 PM
Posted this somewhere else, pertaining to the existance of God. I want to see how solid this is, so maybe I can expand on it. Give feedback, or accept my challenge, whatever. :D
Look at it this way. I believe there probably is something higher up. But we don't know what that is. The possibility that it's what the Bible or any other religious book explains it as is just as likely as a giant frog crapping it all out of his eyes.
So I stay firmly athiest because there is not one shred of evidence that either the Bible or the Quarron (sp?) or the Mormon Book or any others are true. Plus I look at it this way:
-The Egyptians thought their gods were real...apparently they weren't
...same with the Greeks
...and the Romans
...And the Incas
...and the Mayans
...and the Aztecs
So what makes you so sure we've finally gotten it right?
I believe that in the beginning, longer ago than any of us can fathom, something did make all this. But from then science has carried it all. I firmly believe in evolution - it has holes, lets compare the scores here.
EVOLUTION: Thousands upon Thousands of Fossils of evidence
CREATIONISM: Not one shred of evidence.
The Bible does not count as evidence, because there's no proof going for it as well. I could easily write a book of my own crackpot religious theories, it would have just as much evidence going towards its truth as any holy book. So I do believe perhaps people like Jesus and Moses could have existed. But those stories were written years after their deaths, so I doubt they are true. Plus, why don't people worship David Blaine? He does some pretty incredible magic too. :p
So I'm atheist because Religion has no evidence going for it. Neither does atheism, but atheism is the lack of religion. It's the same concept as flying pigs. I guess they COULD exist somewhere on this globe, but we haven't found them yet, so we ASSUME they don't exist, since there is no evidence they do.
And from here I challenge anyone to attempt to prove to me anything having to do with religion. Have fun
<-Dying_to_Live->
June 20th, 2005, 03:34 AM
i like your argument because it is of course true.
Anonymous
June 20th, 2005, 10:07 AM
this is my first response as a christian:
You can go around saying that everything is negative and nothing has prove. The truth is NOTHING has prove! We could be living in"matrix" reality. I ask you to question your faith. Right now, you do not have much to any! People are going tagainst religion because they think that they are to smart for it! believe me no one is, what do you worship? You can worship objects,ideas, your self, or an activity. you are worshipping something. that thing is your key to happiness and what you believe will help you achieve that. so, you do have a religion, what is yours?
AC.wAkeBoArDin.06
June 20th, 2005, 04:27 PM
ok all im saying is so what if theres no God.... religion brings people togeather... it unites one another and brings people to believe in something that they can look up to and find faith it.... So what if God isnt real.... Religion unites people.... although sometimes destroys people... but i think its overall for the better
nwshc
June 20th, 2005, 04:29 PM
all true maximan.
TheWizard
June 20th, 2005, 06:36 PM
Or there is no god and we were created by a nice alien passing through our galixy. He had to go pee so he stopped on earth to peepee. Thus why all animals today have to go peepee.
Whisper
June 20th, 2005, 07:07 PM
Your just afraid to die or to lose people close to you
So you creat this "heaven" concept to help you cope
I have takin religion 15 and 25, I have my 35 finals in a few days
15 = grade 10
25 = grade 11
35 = grade 12
{I'm in grade 11 just took a grade 12 course}
So I know allll about your so called wonderful religion aight so you can't tell me shit.
There IS proof to support the evolution theory your just ignoring it your blind by this thing you call faith which is just another word for superstition. I find it funny how sum of the worst things imaginable happened in the name of or because of this "god", there are many many casses of this through out history but to keep it simple I''ll only name one; I belive everyones familure with the term "nazi"?
Christans, catholics etc... despise other religions, look at how they used to treat the romans not only when they first went to convert rome and completly looked down upon the romans religous belifs BUT this continued even after they became christans cause aperantly they wern't as good as the jewish}. You try to convert anyone you come accross, if you couldn't do it peacefully you did it by force, just look at you past in Africa.
Look at how you treat people just because there diffrent (gay, bi, les)
Or there is no god and we were created by a nice alien passing through our galixy. He had to go pee so he stopped on earth to peepee. Thus why all animals today have to go peepee.
You know Josh normally I wouldn't belive you I'd think it was a joke and laugh cause its funny but hey we have no proof of god er adam and eve and millions belive in it still so this is just as possible
{If i've hurt anyone, i'm sorry}
serial-thrilla
June 20th, 2005, 07:28 PM
Your just afraid to die or to lose people close to you
So you creat this "heaven" concept to help you cope
I have takin religion 15 and 25, I have my 35 finals in a few days
15 = grade 10
25 = grade 11
35 = grade 12
{I'm in grade 11 just took a grade 12 course}
So I know allll about your so called wonderful religion aight so you can't tell me shit.
There IS proof to support the evolution theory your just ignoring it your blind by this thing you call faith which is just another word for superstition. I find it funny how sum of the worst things imaginable happened in the name of or because of this "god", there are many many casses of this through out history but to keep it simple I''ll only name one; I belive everyones familure with the term "nazi"?
Christans, catholics etc... despise other religions, look at how they used to treat the romans not only when they first went to convert rome and completly looked down upon the romans religous belifs BUT this continued even after they became christans cause aperantly they wern't as good as the jewish}. You try to convert anyone you come accross, if you couldn't do it peacefully you did it by force, just look at you past in Africa.
Look at how you treat people just because there diffrent (gay, bi, les)
Or there is no god and we were created by a nice alien passing through our galixy. He had to go pee so he stopped on earth to peepee. Thus why all animals today have to go peepee.
You know Josh normally I wouldn't belive you I'd think it was a joke and laugh cause its funny but hey we have no proof of god er adam and eve and millions belive in it still so this is just as possible
{If i've hurt anyone, i'm sorry} i agree that all religions are made for people to feel better about dying because they cant handle death being just death. and i also think that its stupid how they judge peole according to their sexuality.
shimmywimmy
June 21st, 2005, 01:37 PM
i beleive in God....but I don't think he created Earth and people::::
one reason:::
if he did then why didnt he put people and bodies of water and animals and all the other matter we have on earth into the other planets?
how come when atronauts go to other planets all thats there is rock and black? if God created everything equally, how come the planets in the solar system are all so different?
Anonymous
June 21st, 2005, 05:57 PM
its equal in his eyes or so to say.
the reason im christian, is because it makes me feel better that thier is always someone there to care for me. humans dont provide that for me!
Saint Jimmy
June 24th, 2005, 01:24 PM
Posted this somewhere else, pertaining to the existance
So I stay firmly athiest because there is not one shred of evidence that either the Bible or the Quarron (sp?) or the Mormon Book or any others are true. Plus I look at it this way:
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Sounds more to me like your agnostic.
maximan
June 25th, 2005, 07:55 PM
Posted this somewhere else, pertaining to the existance
So I stay firmly athiest because there is not one shred of evidence that either the Bible or the Quarron (sp?) or the Mormon Book or any others are true. Plus I look at it this way:
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Sounds more to me like your agnostic.Meh, I dunno. I don't think god exists, today, and by "higher power" creating all of this, I dont mean a god, I mean we dont know what it is. Becaues thinking that far back as to what created the universe...and what created whatever created the universe...etc is beyond our boundries of knowledge. So I simply accept that we'll never know.
boognish
June 26th, 2005, 12:44 PM
religion is for those that hide. the truth is we die and we disappear no more no less. we were a fluke. we were the animals that we the first to hit with sticks. and the last to realize shit happens, deal with it
kolte
June 28th, 2005, 03:34 PM
According to the "Bible" the earth could be no more then 10000 years old. I just have one thing to say to all the "religious" ppl out there. Dinosours. Thats right, how do you explain "dinosours" if the earth is only 10000 years old. What? You think god put them here to test you faith? Thats a scary thought.
Poor little jimmy fell down the well and parished. Hes standing there before Jesus and the judges and jesus bends down over his podium and says "did you believe in dinosours jimmy?
"yes"
"THEN TO HELL YOU GO"
how fun to think gods some little kid playing jokes on us. "And im gonna put dinosours here and im not gonna tell ppl i real"
no really jolly old fun that would be. I think ppl should use commen sense. There is no higher power!
maximan
June 30th, 2005, 01:53 AM
Anything that contradicts the bible is "put here to test our faith" :lol:
DouggyO.o
June 30th, 2005, 10:59 AM
Or there is no god and we were created by a nice alien passing through our galixy. He had to go pee so he stopped on earth to peepee. Thus why all animals today have to go peepee.
i dont get it lol
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