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UnknownError
May 9th, 2012, 02:58 PM
its a long one btw
President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.

In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place, based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.

"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABC’s “World News with Diane Sawyer.”

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. But he said he’s confident that more Americans will grow comfortable with gays and lesbians getting married, citing his own daughters’ comfort with the concept.

“It’s interesting, some of this is also generational,” the president continued. “You know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same sex equality or, you know, believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it. You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”

Roberts asked the president if First Lady Michelle Obama was involved in this decision. Obama said she was, and he talked specifically about his own faith in responding.
“This is something that, you know, we’ve talked about over the years and she, you know, she feels the same way, she feels the same way that I do. And that is that, in the end the values that I care most deeply about and she cares most deeply about is how we treat other people and, you know, I, you know, we are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others but, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it’s also the Golden Rule, you know, treat others the way you would want to be treated. And I think that’s what we try to impart to our kids and that’s what motivates me as president and I figure the most consistent I can be in being true to those precepts, the better I’ll be as a as a dad and a husband and hopefully the better I’ll be as president.”

Previously, Obama has moved in the direction of supporting same-sex marriage but has consistently stopped short of outright backing it. Instead, he’s voiced support for civil unions for gay and lesbian couples that provide the rights and benefits enjoyed by married couples, though not defined as “marriage.” At the same time, the president has opposed efforts to ban gay marriage at the state level, saying that he did not favor attempts to strip rights away from gay and lesbian couples.

The president’s position became a flashpoint this week, when Vice President Joe Biden pronounced himself “absolutely comfortable” with allowing same-sex couples to wed.

Obama aides insisted there was no daylight between the positions held by the president and his vice president when it comes to legal rights, but as other prominent Democrats also weighed in in favor of gay marriage, the disconnect became difficult for the White House to explain away.

The announcement completes a turnabout for the president, who has opposed gay marriage throughout his career in national politics. In 1996, as a state Senate candidate, he indicated support for gay marriage in a questionnaire, but Obama aides later disavowed it and said it did not reflect the candidate’s position.

In 2004, as a candidate for the US Senate, he cited his own religion in framing his views: “I'm a Christian. I do believe that tradition and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman.”

He maintained that position through his 2008 presidential campaign, and through his term as president, until today.

As president in 2010, Obama told ABC’s Jake Tapper that his feelings about gay marriage were “constantly evolving. I struggle with this.” A year later, the president told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “I’m still working on it.”

“I probably won't make news right now, George,” Obama said in October 2011. “But I think that there's no doubt that as I see friends, families, children of gay couples who are thriving, you know, that has an impact on how I think about these issues.”

Obama’s decision has political connotations for the fall.

The issue divides elements of the Democratic base, with liberals and gay-rights groups eager to see the president go farther, but with gay marriage far less popular among African-American voters.

Just yesterday, in North Carolina, voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on gay marriage. President Obama carried North Carolina in 2008, and its status as a 2012 battleground was guaranteed by Democrats’ decision to hold their convention in Charlotte this summer.

Obama’s likely Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, opposes gay marriage, and fought his state’s highest court when Massachusetts became the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004, when Romney was governor. Romney said on the campaign trail Monday that he continues to oppose gay marriage.

“My view is that marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman,” Romney said. “That’s the position I’ve had for some time, and I don’t intend to make any adjustments at this point. … Or ever, by the way.”

Jess
May 9th, 2012, 03:01 PM
this is good. I'm glad he now supports it!

Gaybaby94
May 9th, 2012, 03:06 PM
Good! It is only a matter of time until this war has been won and same sex couples across the country will get the right to marry. including myself!

Erasmus
May 9th, 2012, 04:07 PM
Yes Obama, yes.

Love.Hate
May 9th, 2012, 04:52 PM
:D this is fantastic, an important step for Obama and America as a whole

Lights
May 10th, 2012, 11:17 AM
Good! It is only a matter of time until this war has been won and same sex couples across the country will get the right to marry. including myself!

Does Obama being behind same-sex marriage really mean anything is going to change, though? I don't know enough about American politics to know how much power he has over the states he rules over. Does he have the power to universally (across all 50 states) legalise same-sex marriage? I know under state law states across America can deal with same-sex marriage as they please, but if Obama really cares to see a change, something will have to be done with federal law which applies across the country and (in many cases) overrules state law.

We're edging closer and closer to marriage and equality which is a very exciting prospect. The world will be a happier place when we all learn to just treat each other with equality. Not allowing homosexuals the right to marry is on the same level as not allowing a black person to sit down on a bus; it's persecuting people for being the way they naturally are. Can a black person (without the aid of the likes of plastic surgery) change their skin colour? No. Can a homosexual individual change their gender preference? Absolutely not. It is wrong for gay marriage to be banned and rejected on so many levels, and I believe that in no way should religion so heavily influence the way such countries as the United States and the United Kingdom operate.

Obama now being alongside recovers somewhat from the step backwards of regression from North Carolina. I think in the long run, things are looking optimistic for same-sex marriage. We just have to be patient with the gradual improvements.

HeroesAndCons
May 10th, 2012, 12:25 PM
Obama got my vote

Bath
May 10th, 2012, 12:36 PM
It's good he has common sense. But it doesn't change my view of him, really.

Guillermo
May 13th, 2012, 01:59 PM
It's good he has common sense. But it doesn't change my view of him, really.

This exactly...

And like someone else up there said, Obama can't just legalize gay-marriages all across the US because those are the states rights, as was just demonstrated by the recent North Carolina 1st Amendment that was voted for marriages only being between "a man and a woman". So yeah, that's great that he supports same-sex marriage, but this one little view on him still doesn't change my overall views about him. So, in short, if I could vote at this upcoming election in November 2012, I would not vote for him.

Azunite
May 13th, 2012, 02:55 PM
He's doing it to get more votes, simple.

Nice tactic.

Jupiter
May 13th, 2012, 03:05 PM
He's doing it to get more votes, simple.

Nice tactic.

That's actually what my mother said.

Sugaree
May 13th, 2012, 06:53 PM
He's doing it to get more votes, simple.

Nice tactic.

That and one of his biggest donors is gay. Good move.

Incompris
May 13th, 2012, 06:57 PM
It's good he has common sense. But it doesn't change my view of him, really.
I totally agree, I mean its great he supports it and all but there is still some things he needs to get straight

Thunduhbuhlt
May 14th, 2012, 05:28 PM
That and one of his biggest donors is gay. Good move.
Interesting, I didn't know this. And I bet it will even itself out. The LGBT(?) will be happy but the conservatives won't, so I don't think it will impact the election too much.

LatinaVivit
May 14th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Better late than never, I suppose.

Truth
May 19th, 2012, 12:59 AM
He's using this to get more votes, and more money.

You know the funniest thing? You'll all fall for it and re-elect him, then he will fold on his promises and ignore anyone who asks about it. Then you will criticize him, until he makes more promises next election...

Politics make me annoyed.

Lyra Heartstrings
May 19th, 2012, 09:37 PM
He's using this to get more votes, and more money.

You know the funniest thing? You'll all fall for it and re-elect him, then he will fold on his promises and ignore anyone who asks about it. Then you will criticize him, until he makes more promises next election...

Politics make me annoyed.

Are you ever happy?
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I'm glad he said it. Should finally open Christians eyes.

Sugaree
May 19th, 2012, 09:53 PM
Are you ever happy?
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I'm glad he said it. Should finally open Christians eyes.

Except he's right. Obama was in a tough position because of Biden's remarks on "Meet the Press" and one of his biggest donors being gay. He isn't doing it just because he believes in it, he's doing it for YOUR vote. It's a classic tactic that every elected official uses. They play on the public's emotions on certain issues, oppose them or embrace them as needed, and run.

Lyra Heartstrings
May 19th, 2012, 10:02 PM
Except he's right. Obama was in a tough position because of Biden's remarks on "Meet the Press" and one of his biggest donors being gay. He isn't doing it just because he believes in it, he's doing it for YOUR vote. It's a classic tactic that every elected official uses. They play on the public's emotions on certain issues, oppose them or embrace them as needed, and run.

I understand where he is coming from..but good God, it annoys me how he has to point out every bad part in a news story. Yes, he's right. But he could have kept it to himself.

Sugaree
May 19th, 2012, 10:44 PM
I understand where he is coming from..but good God, it annoys me how he has to point out every bad part in a news story. Yes, he's right. But he could have kept it to himself.

What's the point in free speech then?

User Deleted
May 19th, 2012, 10:55 PM
Personally, I don't think our society should have the need to be happy that one person supports gay marriage. People shouldn't get so pissy about it in the first place.

I do recall hearing him say though he supported it he wouldn't do anything, which almost makes me dislike him more. If you support something and have any power take some action, nothing was ever accomplished sitting around doing nothing.