The Confederacy!

[Texas warrior]

Well I think that there should be a thread to talk about the Confedracy.

[Korashk]

They were trying to exercise their right to secede and Lincoln the Tyrant and his administration didn't want them to, so he declared was and the ensuing war pointlessly killed hundreds of thousands.

People who claim that the Civil War was about slavery are only incidentally correct, and it's probable that the Civil War and its aftermath in fact made things worse for black people than they would have been in the event of a peaceful secession.

[jackson94]

^The hell is this guy talking about^?

The South had a huge fear of northern politicians because they usually had a bias to either try to end slavery, stop its spread, or in a president's case, elect Supreme Court Judges that would be unfavorable to the institution. Abraham Lincoln was a northern president completely, he wasn't even on the ballot in some southern states, and the south seceeded in fear of slavery becoming illegal.

Now, it is true that Abraham Lincoln went to war, not over slavery, but to keep the Union together. A noble cause in my opinion. However, saying that had he simply let the south seceed and keep SLAVERY legal, that the black people would be better off, is simply propostorous.

[Korashk]

Besides America, every single modernized country in the world peacefully ended slavery. To think that America or the hypothetical Confederate Union needed a war to do it is simply ignorant.

I say that since a war was fought sort of around slavery, the aftermath of that war brought oppressive laws such as forced segregation and Jim Crow in order to basically placate the Southerners because slavery was forcibly ended. Had it happened peacefully these policies might not have been instituted.

I didn't mean that black people back then would have been better off, I meant that black people now would be better off due to the chance that the government might not have oppressed them in such an extreme manner in the aftermath of the Civil War.

Why do you think keeping the Union together was a noble cause?

[Rage of the Menace]

I agree with Korashk.

[Professional Russian]

The confederacy fought for two things up there. Freedom and Slavery they wanted both.

[NotYourSombrero]

Korashk said what i wanted to say in an complicated way.