View Full Version : Sexual orientation Vs. Religious teaching
marchingsaxophone
May 1st, 2012, 05:23 PM
Just wondering is any one like me that they are going against church teaching by being gay. I'm Catholic and we are told that we can't be gay. Please no comments against the Catholic church
StoppingTime
May 1st, 2012, 05:31 PM
I don't want this to be taken the wrong way, so please know I don't mean it in any kind of rude, condescending, or improper manner.
There have been multiple scientific studies shown that you are in fact "born gay." It has something to do with the DNA and the chromosomes, and there isn't anything you can do to change it.
There are even religious leaders who do accept this fact, and are fine with people being LGBT, which everyone should be, but that's a different story.
Don't think that you can't be gay. There isn't anything wrong with you, so don't worry about it, God will not condone you to hell for something out of your control, in my opinion.
Jupiter
May 1st, 2012, 05:34 PM
How in the heck can you not be gay?
I'm bi, and I'm Christian. I have very strong beliefs in that God, and I want to tell you that science has proven that you can be. I would get you a shit ton of links, but I'm not feelin' it. Google "born gay teachings" and I believe there is a cartoon you can find.
EDIT- here it is
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User Deleted
May 1st, 2012, 06:24 PM
How in the heck can you not be gay?
I'm bi, and I'm Christian. I have very strong beliefs in that God, and I want to tell you that science has proven that you can be. I would get you a shit ton of links, but I'm not feelin' it. Google "born gay teachings" and I believe there is a cartoon you can find.
EDIT- here it is
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I've seen that cartoon. Twice.
Anyways, yeah, even if people weren't born gay, I still think that if you genuinely love a person you should be allowed to be with them.
The favorite argument I have heard is this: Is is more right for a straight couple who doesn't love each other to be together than a gay couple who does? I mean, a relationship doesn't have to, and shouldn't be, sex centered. Therefor no matter how "icky" it is, I feel it is fine to be gay.
Now for the church. Please excuse me for anything offensive I may accidentally say. Personally, I used to go to church because that was all I believed and knew. As all there was in my little world that made sense. And eventually I determined myself atheist after exposure to the world. After talking with people saying I should go back, I learned something. Many people are religious because they like the religion, because they like the morals. I believe in what proves to be right. Gravity is a theory, though since it has not proven itself incorrect I will continue to assume its existence.
Now presuming you are religious because you like the morals, then I say that Catholicism is not for you, or perhaps like I once did you may keep those beliefs and choose to be gay. This is a personal situation for you to decide... Heck, if you wanted to you could stop being gay. There are so many choices.
Though, as for religious teachings in its prime form, most religion does not favor homosexuality as I am lead to believe. I know the church I used to visit tolerated homosexuality. There are three levels of faith. Religious groups, church, and the individual. Group belief is stereotyped fairly accurately, falling under prime rules, and branching into new religion with changes too Jurassic. Churches have differing beliefs, though not so much as to change the religion. And individuals may bend the religion to fit their belief complex.
When the individuals beliefs bend too far from the church, I personally feel they may as not well be religious or be a more suiting religion. This argument is keeping in mind religion is based on complimenting ones preference. Some people may have no choice, only know that one thing, or even be "brainwashed" into religion or cults. Ultimately religion can be hard to capture as one idea for a whole group, thus why I can not answer that orientation goes for, against, or neutral to a whole religion.
Zeh Crazy
May 2nd, 2012, 06:34 PM
I was raised Christian by my grandparents. I went to church when I was young and attended Sunday school. I started having an attraction to women at a very young age. I never openly confided this to any adult, but my grandmother always told me that it was bad to be gay or lesbian and that those who were would rot in Hell. Imagine being told this as a 5 and 6 year old. I had terrible nightmares of burning alive and being in Hell throughout my childhood. I believed in "God" then and thought "He" must hate me. I begged and prayed for "Him" to make my attraction to women go away, but it never did. So yeah, from a very young age I was aware of what people thought of others being gay. This made me ponder things deeply in my own mind and turned me into a very introspective child.
boonsim
May 2nd, 2012, 10:35 PM
I cannot answer this question without saying something negative about the catholic church sorry. I'd say something positive, but frankly I can't think of anything.
joshduder
May 7th, 2012, 01:42 PM
Be yourself!
jjsmitty
May 7th, 2012, 01:50 PM
Raised in a lightly Christian family, in a heavily Christian area, Christian primary school, lightly Christian secondary school and now Bi with a boyfriend.
Make what you will of that.
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