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Professional Russian
April 24th, 2012, 02:34 PM
This isnt really news but in my school today this ione girl went up to another and beat the living shit out of her for no reason...if i was there i wouldnt care if you were a girl id have the whole school hate hate me(Wait the school already hates me...lets keep thhat way) and i would beat the living shit out of the bitch that did it (Shes a slut by the way...in 7th grade...and slept with like 5 guys...just what ive heard)...any comments... and i just posted on facebook "heres my give a fuckometer... oh wait theres nothing there that means i dont give a fuck" HAHAHA Funniest thing yet...im probaly gonna get grounded because my stalks my facebook but thats a different story...any comments and mods feel free to move this where it belongs if its in the wrong spot..

green
April 24th, 2012, 04:36 PM
pretty immature the thing you posted on facebook. also never hit a girl, NEVER. A real man wouldnt punch her, he would help break it up and mediate the problem. also you cant call her a slut if you dont know that shes slept with multiple people and really you shouldnt be calling her a slut because who cares if she sleeps with lots of people? If a guy sleeps with multiple people no one cares but if girls do their sluts? double standard. Grow up.

Taylorxbox
April 24th, 2012, 04:41 PM
pretty immature the thing you posted on facebook. also never hit a girl, NEVER. A real man wouldnt punch her, he would help break it up and mediate the problem.

I agree.

Professional Russian
April 24th, 2012, 04:59 PM
I saw this one coming...Our teachers just recently gave us a lecture about bystanders they said bystanders are just as bad as bullys so yes in the teachers eyes(and my parents) beat the shit out of them. and facebook is very very immaturee anymore...welcome to america land of the immature and home of the brave(personally like the last part better)I have a huge pile of fucks i dont give Buzzkills, cant even have some fun

TheMatrix
April 25th, 2012, 09:39 PM
How is this news?
Chronicle :arrow: TWPR

Aves
April 25th, 2012, 10:19 PM
I saw this one coming...Our teachers just recently gave us a lecture about bystanders they said bystanders are just as bad as bullys so yes in the teachers eyes(and my parents) beat the shit out of them. and facebook is very very immaturee anymore...welcome to america land of the immature and home of the brave(personally like the last part better)I have a huge pile of fucks i dont give Buzzkills, cant even have some fun

Once you intervene with the fight, even by breaking it up, you are no longer a bystander. How you say you would react to this frightens me honestly. It sounds entirely like you have not only no control of your emotions, whatsoever. You hear an excuse to beat someone up and even after time to think, you still opt to go in that direction. A sane logical person would assess the situation and choose the best course of action. In this case either breaking it up yourself or getting a teacher would have been the best of your options. The very last thing you should have done/thought of is beat the shit out of one of them.

Also, if you give no fucks, why are you posting it here and Facebook? That's definitely you showing that you do in fact give a fuck.

EDIT: Also, I believe you once said one of those "This chick you called a slut is pregnant, real story is she got raped" things. If not, this still holds true. Don't call some woman a slut because of rumors. That is beyond ignorant. You heard she slept with five guys. Is there confirmation to this, from her or the guys? Why does it even matter? She might deeply regret all of them.

And one more thing, violence is not the answer. It should only be used when you personally are put into harm's way, and not to an extent of "beating the shit out of somebody." I cannot begin to fathom how troubled you must be to find this action acceptable. I will never understand people who immediately jump to violence as a way of solving issues.

OH and while I'm at it, learn to fucking type. Seriously. This was the biggest pain in the ass to read and comprehend what you meant.

Weeping_Angel
April 25th, 2012, 10:25 PM
As Gunt has so correctly stared, since you posted about this on Facebook, and on here, you do in fact care to some extent,mother wise I wouldn't even be replying to this post. Furthermore the way you deals with the situation (getting involved) just makes you part of the problem, and if anything happens in the future, you aren't innocent anymore. You are now part of the bullying. Why you would post a Facebook update saying you don't give a fuck whether a girl gets the fuck beat out of her, is uncomprehendable, but you made your choice. And choices always end up with results, good or bad.

Amnesiac
April 25th, 2012, 11:15 PM
This isnt really news but in my school today this ione girl went up to another and beat the living shit out of her for no reason...

It really isn't news. This stuff happens all the time, at high schools across the country. There were just two "bitch fights" at my school last week.

if i was there i wouldnt care if you were a girl id have the whole school hate hate me(Wait the school already hates me...lets keep thhat way)

Dude, why is having everybody hate you a good thing?

and i would beat the living shit out of the bitch that did it

Why do you need to get involved in a situation you admittedly know little to nothing about, besides the exaggerated rumors you should expect from any dramatic situation in high school? This is an issue between the two of them. Your commentary doesn't help, man.

(Shes a slut by the way...in 7th grade...and slept with like 5 guys...just what ive heard)

Like Connor said, what basis do you have to make this claim, especially in such a condescending way? Also, on a more general note, why is it inappropriate for a girl to sleep with five guys, but not vice versa? While it may not be the healthiest or "classiest" thing, who are we to judge a person's virtue by how they fulfill their sexual wants?

...any comments... and i just posted on facebook "heres my give a fuckometer... oh wait theres nothing there that means i dont give a fuck" HAHAHA Funniest thing yet...

If you really put the effort into writing a Facebook post about something as ultimately weightless and easily ignorable as a school fight, then yes, you do indeed give a fuck. It's not really funny. I used to be kind of like you, always commenting on drama as if I were the rational one among a bunch of idiots. At the end of the day, it just makes you look condescending and mean.

im probaly gonna get grounded because my stalks my facebook but thats a different story...any comments and mods feel free to move this where it belongs if its in the wrong spot..

Who knows, maybe you should be.

I saw this one coming...Our teachers just recently gave us a lecture about bystanders they said bystanders are just as bad as bullys so yes in the teachers eyes(and my parents) beat the shit out of them.

Of all the propaganda you choose to ignore (as it seems), you picked the bystander rule? People who simply watch and cheer on a fight, or agitate the situation in any way, are indeed guilty of refusing to intervene and help. In a way, they are indeed as bad as the bully.

and facebook is very very immaturee anymore...welcome to america land of the immature and home of the brave(personally like the last part better)I have a huge pile of fucks i dont give Buzzkills, cant even have some fun

I don't really see the point of what you've posted here... are you promoting immaturity or something, or do you think that this is funny and we're just buzzkills? I'm sorry to break it to you, but maturity is something that is lacking in your treatment of this situation.

Genghis Khan
April 26th, 2012, 04:34 AM
Since everyone else has addressed what's wrong with Robert's post, I'll address this:

also never hit a girl, NEVER.

Wrong. Never hit people in general should be the rule. What you really should focus on is not advocating fighting or violence in general. I hate it when people say 'DUDE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO NEVER HIT A GIRL IT'S MORALLY WORONGNGGGGGG'

If a bitch fucks with you similar to how an asshole fucks with you, then if the situation asks for it hit the bitch/asshole. If a girl slapped me in the face and asked for a fight, her being a girl isn't going to stop me from kicking her face in, similar to how if a guy slaps me and asks for some I'll give him some. This isn't to say people should indulge in violence, but in a given scenario where Robert (for instance) had someone of the opposite sex attack him, he has every right to defend himself. Being a girl does not make you exempt from self-defence. That's a fucking stupid rule.

Professional Russian
April 26th, 2012, 05:55 AM
It really isn't news. This stuff happens all the time, at high schools across the country. There were just two "bitch fights" at my school last week.

Fight dont happen that often here so its kind of big news around here



Dude, why is having everybody hate you a good thing?

Everybody already hates and plus i really dont care what people think of me...I could be or best friend or your worst enemy(I swear to god i think i just took that from a song)

Why do you need to get involved in a situation you admittedly know little to nothing about, besides the exaggerated rumors you should expect from any dramatic situation in high school? This is an issue between the two of them. Your commentary doesn't help, man.

Rumors gotta hate em

Like Connor said, what basis do you have to make this claim, especially in such a condescending way? Also, on a more general note, why is it inappropriate for a girl to sleep with five guys, but not vice versa? While it may not be the healthiest or "classiest" thing, who are we to judge a person's virtue by how they fulfill their sexual wants?

I dont know its just the way the world works

If you really put the effort into writing a Facebook post about something as ultimately weightless and easily ignorable as a school fight, then yes, you do indeed give a fuck. It's not really funny. I used to be kind of like you, always commenting on drama as if I were the rational one among a bunch of idiots. At the end of the day, it just makes you look condescending and mean.

i didnt really care about it on facebook im known for just annoying the living hell out o people with pictures that relate to what hapens daily.

Who knows, maybe you should be.



Of all the propaganda you choose to ignore (as it seems), you picked the bystander rule? People who simply watch and cheer on a fight, or agitate the situation in any way, are indeed guilty of refusing to intervene and help. In a way, they are indeed as bad as the bully.

its just what our teachers told us...bystanders are just as bad as bullies

I don't really see the point of what you've posted here... are you promoting immaturity or something, or do you think that this is funny and we're just buzzkills? I'm sorry to break it to you, but maturity is something that is lacking in your treatment of this situation.

the buzzkills part wasnt really needed i put it there for a little humor

Since everyone else has addressed what's wrong with Robert's post, I'll address this:



Wrong. Never hit people in general should be the rule. What you really should focus on is not advocating fighting or violence in general. I hate it when people say 'DUDE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO NEVER HIT A GIRL IT'S MORALLY WORONGNGGGGGG'

If a bitch fucks with you similar to how an asshole fucks with you, then if the situation asks for it hit the bitch/asshole. If a girl slapped me in the face and asked for a fight, her being a girl isn't going to stop me from kicking her face in, similar to how if a guy slaps me and asks for some I'll give him some. This isn't to say people should indulge in violence, but in a given scenario where Robert (for instance) had someone of the opposite sex attack him, he has every right to defend himself. Being a girl does not make you exempt from self-defence. That's a fucking stupid rule.

I wasnt there when it was happening...and if would have tried to have broken it up i would have gotten punched in the face because this bitch is mean...she beat the shit out of the other girl for saying something about her...ive taken so much shit over my life i havent snapped yet....but over 1 thing this beat the shit out of another...i surprised she didnt get exspelled

Efflorescence
April 26th, 2012, 06:01 AM
People who simply watch and cheer on a fight, or agitate the situation in any way, are indeed guilty of refusing to intervene and help. In a way, they are indeed as bad as the bully.

Sure. That's what we are supposed to do. But how many do it? Easier said than done mate.

If I fuckin see a guy looking like fuckin Hulk fighting with another guy I sure as hell won't intervene. They can resolve it between them. I won't get involved. I don't go looking for trouble. When my brother decided to intervene in a fight, he ended up with a broken nose. No thanks. You can do it if you like. I'll bring you oranges and biscuits in hospital.

Professional Russian
April 26th, 2012, 08:56 AM
Sure. That's what we are supposed to do. But how many do it? Easier said than done mate.

If I fuckin see a guy looking like fuckin Hulk fighting with another guy I sure as hell won't intervene. They can resolve it between them. I won't get involved. I don't go looking for trouble. When my brother decided to intervene in a fight, he ended up with a broken nose. No thanks. You can do it if you like. I'll bring you oranges and biscuits in hospital.

Agreed... if i see a guy thats fucking huge i aint gonna get into that fight...Id rather not die thank you

kenoloor
April 26th, 2012, 09:19 AM
Once you intervene with the fight, even by breaking it up, you are no longer a bystander. How you say you would react to this frightens me honestly. It sounds entirely like you have not only no control of your emotions, whatsoever. You hear an excuse to beat someone up and even after time to think, you still opt to go in that direction. A sane logical person would assess the situation and choose the best course of action. In this case either breaking it up yourself or getting a teacher would have been the best of your options. The very last thing you should have done/thought of is beat the shit out of one of them.

Also, if you give no fucks, why are you posting it here and Facebook? That's definitely you showing that you do in fact give a fuck.

EDIT: Also, I believe you once said one of those "This chick you called a slut is pregnant, real story is she got raped" things. If not, this still holds true. Don't call some woman a slut because of rumors. That is beyond ignorant. You heard she slept with five guys. Is there confirmation to this, from her or the guys? Why does it even matter? She might deeply regret all of them.

And one more thing, violence is not the answer. It should only be used when you personally are put into harm's way, and not to an extent of "beating the shit out of somebody." I cannot begin to fathom how troubled you must be to find this action acceptable. I will never understand people who immediately jump to violence as a way of solving issues.

OH and while I'm at it, learn to fucking type. Seriously. This was the biggest pain in the ass to read and comprehend what you meant.

All of my rep. Take it. All of it.

Jean Poutine
April 26th, 2012, 10:48 AM
If a bitch fucks with you similar to how an asshole fucks with you, then if the situation asks for it hit the bitch/asshole.

Seriously. Women can now vote, inherit, serve in the Army and get paid the same as men. I view it as demeaning to women to refuse to hit them no matter what. Equal rights, brochacho. Get with the times and punch a girl in the face. We're not in the Middle Ages anymore.

HeroesAndCons
April 26th, 2012, 11:01 AM
There was a bitch fight at my school two weeks ago, it was 2 black girls. they litterally pulled eachothers weaves out. There was weave all over the floor too. >.< I felt bad for laughing too hard though.

UnknownError
April 26th, 2012, 06:31 PM
Oh my fucking god, trust VT to blow a dumb story out of proportion.

jfc

Aves
April 26th, 2012, 10:52 PM
Oh my fucking god, trust VT to blow a dumb story out of proportion.

jfc

Connor, why are you even posting?

This is a serious matter to some, because it just shows how some people act. And it's not right how Robert would have reacted to this situation. I'm not going to hide it, I think what Robert would have done would have been the worst thing he could have done. I would not have thought him the hero, but the bigger asshole and bully in the situation.

This is not a "dumb story" as you say. Honestly, this is quite serious. What Robert would have done is how small arguments/fights between two people turns into riot. Also, his ignorance just shined through by not even understanding Justin's post (Lithium). What Justin meant is that if you don't intervene at all, you are the bully. Getting a teacher or an authority figure is intervening. Indirectly, but it still is intervening. Breaking up the fight is intervening. All things that should have not only been his, but everyone's first reaction.

It depresses me that not only do people not think in these situations, but that even afterwards they jump to the totally wrong approach.

double r
April 26th, 2012, 10:53 PM
Connor, why are you even posting?

This is a serious matter to some, because it just shows how some people act. And it's not right how Robert would have reacted to this situation. I'm not going to hide it, I think what Robert would have done would have been the worst thing he could have done. I would not have thought him the hero, but the bigger asshole and bully in the situation.

This is not a "dumb story" as you say. Honestly, this is quite serious. What Robert would have done is how small arguments/fights between two people turns into riot. Also, his ignorance just shined through by not even understanding Justin's post (Lithium). What Justin meant is that if you don't intervene at all, you are the bully. Getting a teacher or an authority figure is intervening. Indirectly, but it still is intervening. Breaking up the fight is intervening. All things that should have not only been his, but everyone's first reaction.

It depresses me that not only do people not think in these situations, but that even afterwards they jump to the totally wrong approach.


I have to agree with him.

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:00 PM
This is out of hand. But I do agree with Avril (How'd she get on here?). This is a story that is left to those two girls and its their business only. How many men did she sleep with? Not your fucking business. Just leave it to the girls to solve the problem. It was very immature to post that on FaceBook and it could have very well embarrassed her. If you didn't give a fuck, why post it on there and VT?

I hate how people these days just have to go get involved into shit they know nothing about. That is my two cents.

Aves
April 26th, 2012, 11:03 PM
This is out of hand. But I do agree with Avril (How'd she get on here?). This is a story that is left to those two girls and its their business only. How many men did she sleep with? Not your fucking business. Just leave it to the girls to solve the problem. It was very immature to post that on FaceBook and it could have very well embarrassed her. If you didn't give a fuck, why post it on there and VT?

I hate how people these days just have to go get involved into shit they know nothing about. That is my two cents.

If you're agreeing with "Avril" (not really her, by the way), you are saying we as a community are talking about the two girls. No no no. I am specifically discussing Robert's actions/reactions to this event.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:04 PM
If you're agreeing with "Avril" (not really her, by the way), you are saying we as a community are talking about the two girls. No no no. I am specifically discussing Robert's actions/reactions to this event.

Precisely. It isn't so much about the fight anymore, coolboi, it's now about the fact that Robert would respond so quickly, and without thinking about his actions.

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:07 PM
If you're agreeing with "Avril" (not really her, by the way), you are saying we as a community are talking about the two girls. No no no. I am specifically discussing Robert's actions/reactions to this event.

I am too. I just separately stated I agreed with Avril.

Precisely. It isn't so much about the fight anymore, coolboi

Where's coolboi?

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:08 PM
I am too. I just separately stated I agreed with Avril.

Agree with "her" about what?

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Agree with "her" about what?

That the community simply overreacted to the situation.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:10 PM
That the community simply overreacted to the situation.

Sorry I meant EternaBoi, got mixed up. And we didn't overreact, Robert could have hurt someone, not physically, but emotionally.

double r
April 26th, 2012, 11:11 PM
Let me just say that men should never hit women, and that stay out of others peoples matters especially the ladies, and avoid using Facebook as an erosional insulter.

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:12 PM
Sorry I meant EternaBoi, got mixed up. And we didn't overreact, Robert could have hurt someone, not physically, but emotionally.

I brought that up in my original point.

However, I think Robert should've stayed in his own damn business. He should just drop the whole thing with them, before someone gets hurt, like you said.

Let me just say that men should never hit women, and that stay out of others peoples matters especially the ladies, and avoid using Facebook as an erosional insulter.

Yes. Oh fucking yes. I agree.

double r
April 26th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Hell ya now you are talking some sense.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:14 PM
Let me just say that men should never hit women, and that stay out of others peoples matters especially the ladies, and avoid using Facebook as an erosional insulter.

So here we go again, with the mean should never hit woman. Is it because we are more vulnerable? Not able to protect ourselves? If a woman hits a man, he has every right to hit her back, and go to GenghisKahn's post for exactly what I am fucking thinking right now.

Noxail
April 26th, 2012, 11:15 PM
Just gonna pop in here :D Honestly, I'm known for throwing myself into fights so no one gets hurt. I find it really really hard to harm someone on purpose, and then I'd only ever hit someone out of defence. Honestly, if you saw a girl walk up to someone else, and hurt them for no reason, what would you do? I know you wouldn't just stand there like a bump on a log, but you probably wouldn't go an bash someones face in. I really think both sides of this agruement are being childish. You can intervene calmly and without violence, if that doesn't work, call an adult and let them deal with it. It's not right to let someone beat the shit out of someone else, but it's not right to take their discipline into your own hands. And the whole "don't hit a girl" thing? Let them deal with their own shit. No need to over react and get physical unless there's a threat to you. In which case you have the right to protect yourself from the threat, dispite gender. ~Holli

double r
April 26th, 2012, 11:16 PM
You know what, the man is stronger women are weaker. And yes many from my background would agree. But sometimes a woman needs a slap to get some sense and to learn who is in charge. But still men should not beat women or hurt them to much.

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:17 PM
So here we go again, with the mean should never hit woman. Is it because we are more vulnerable? Not able to protect ourselves? If a woman hits a man, he has every right to hit her back, and go to GenghisKahn's post for exactly what I am fucking thinking right now.

Unless they are provoked, no one should hit anyone. Also, women are generally weaker than men, no offense. You can protect yourselves, however, women are stronger emotionally while men are stronger physically.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:18 PM
I brought that up in my original point.

However, I think Robert should've stayed in his own damn business. He should just drop the whole thing with them, before someone gets hurt, like you said.

Yes. Exactly what I was saying. Thank you

Yes. Oh fucking yes. I agree.

what makes you more superior, that woman are allowed to hit men, but men are not allowed to hit woman? You can't come up with a rational answer without coming off as a sexist bastard

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:23 PM
what makes you more superior, that woman are allowed to hit men, but men are not allowed to hit woman? You can't come up with a rational answer without coming off as a sexist bastard

Everything seems sexist when I say "weaker" and "female" in the same sentence. So, why should I try to explain?

Noxail
April 26th, 2012, 11:23 PM
No matter who's stronger, if a girl whopps you in the head with a shoe, you're going to hit her back. It's instinct, so stop acting all macho. No one should ever hit anyone without reason, no matter who you are. Period. Done.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:29 PM
You know what, the man is stronger women are weaker. And yes many from my background would agree. But sometimes a woman needs a slap to get some sense and to learn who is in charge. But still men should not beat women or hurt them to much.

Unless they are provoked, no one should hit anyone. Also, women are generally weaker than men, no offense. You can protect yourselves, however, women are stronger emotionally while men are stronger physically.

So here's the thing. You can't generalize woman into the weaker category and put men into the stronger category. This whole theory is so sexist, that it makes me want to throw up. A lot. I'm strong, and I learned how to beat a person senseless on case of attack. But men of course, are better and stronger because they are men. Both of you, you haven't looked into it enough. You can't argue about something You don't have all the facts about. Boom. Life lesson right there. Now go study up, before you make extreme sexist comments like that.

Aves
April 26th, 2012, 11:30 PM
That the community simply overreacted to the situation.
Once again, we really aren't.

I brought that up in my original point.

However, I think Robert should've stayed in his own damn business. He should just drop the whole thing with them, before someone gets hurt, like you said.
No, he should not have minded his own business. Not in this situation. He should have either done something himself to stop the fight, and I mean stop. Not make it worse by almost killing someone. That or gotten someone with authority.

In this situation, where violence occurs, no one should really "mind their own business." It's childish to think so. When it gets to the point of violence, the only result will be one party ending up with physical injuries. No logical debate is crossed, and no real solution is reached.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Once again, we really aren't.


No, he should not have minded his own business. Not in this situation. He should have either done something himself to stop the fight, and I mean stop. Not make it worse by almost killing someone. That or gotten someone with authority.

In this situation, where violence occurs, no one should really "mind their own business." It's childish to think so. When it gets to the point of violence, the only result will be one party ending up with physical injuries. No logical debate is crossed, and no real solution is reached.

Well, you should mind your own buisness if it will result in another person getting hurt. I think that that sets a fair limit.

ImCoolBeans
April 26th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Hey guys let's be nice and get along :cuddle: cause I don't want to have to lock this soon.

Aves
April 26th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Well, you should mind your own buisness if it will result in another person getting hurt. I think that that sets a fair limit.

I'm hoping you meant if no one will get hurt. That's then a civilized discussion, most likely, or at least better than brutality to see who's "right".

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Hey guys let's be nice and get along :cuddle: cause I don't want to have to lock this soon.

Sorry Mike :(.

:love: from now on

double r
April 26th, 2012, 11:35 PM
So here's the thing. You can't generalize woman into the weaker category and put men into the stronger category. This whole theory is so sexist, that it makes me want to throw up. A lot. I'm strong, and I learned how to beat a person senseless on case of attack. But men of course, are better and stronger because they are men. Both of you, you haven't looked into it enough. You can't argue about something You don't have all the facts about. Boom. Life lesson right there. Now go study up, before you make extreme sexist comments like that.

Sorry to inform you but most of the world has these thoughts. And this is how its been going for centuries and will go on. And it is not sexist it is a fact.

Also in this situation PR should have not hit the girl but should have instead keep it peaceful.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:35 PM
I'm hoping you meant if no one will get hurt. That's then a civilized discussion, most likely, or at least better than brutality to see who's "right".

Yes.

Sorry to inform you but most of the world has these thoughts. And this is how its been going for centuries and will go on. And it is not sexist it is a fact.

Also in this situation PR should have not hit the girl but should have instead keep it peaceful.

Ok. Im going to have to end this conversation on this sour note, as it is off topic, and it may lead to negative remarks. :D. Nice chatting with you though.

Please don't double post. We have the multi-quote button for a reason, you know. ~TheMatrix

Aves
April 26th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Guys, the sexism topic is what Mike was talking about (trust me, I'm talking to him). This thread had nothing of sexism until you guys introduced it. I'd recommend stopping it now before he decides to lock this thread. I see this being a wonderful place to converse on morality of violence and when it is necessary, as well as bullying and what to do, and I'd hate to see it locked.

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Guys, the sexism topic is what Mike was talking about (trust me, I'm talking to him). This thread had nothing of sexism until you guys introduced it. I'd recommend stopping it now before he decides to lock this thread. I see this being a wonderful place to converse on morality of violence and when it is necessary, as well as bullying and what to do, and I'd hate to see it locked.

Yes. We stopped this convo. I think that this thread could turn into a real convo, something serious. :D

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:46 PM
Sorry to inform you but most of the world has these thoughts. And this is how its been going for centuries and will go on. And it is not sexist it is a fact.

Also in this situation PR should have not hit the girl but should have instead keep it peaceful.

HE HIT THE GIRL?

Sometimes I miss the biggest things...

ImCoolBeans
April 26th, 2012, 11:47 PM
Although I think hitting a girl is pretty low and weak, I do believe that rather than making such a massive production to younger boys and teaching them "never hit a girl!" they should more so be taught to not hit somebody in general. I know that I was raised to never hit a girl, and I really can't ever see myself doing that in any situation, but to be honest, what does hitting anybody really accomplish? I've been in my fair share of fights, and it doesn't bother me or anything, but at the end of the day you just really feel like an ass for hitting someone; I can't see that being an enjoyable feeling.

Aves
April 26th, 2012, 11:48 PM
HE HIT THE GIRL?

Sometimes I miss the biggest things...

No he did not. Obviously he did not read the original post well enough, or is really poor at wording things.

Here's what happened for anyone too lazy to go back to the OP:
>2girls fight at Professional Russian's school
>PR would have beaten the shit out of one of the girls in the fight
>we discuss why he should not have done/thought of
>random sexism convo here
>back on topic now

double r
April 26th, 2012, 11:49 PM
That's true to cool bean

Weeping_Angel
April 26th, 2012, 11:50 PM
Although I think hitting a girl is pretty low and weak, I do believe that rather than making such a massive production to younger boys and teaching them "never hit a girl!" they should more so be taught to not hit somebody in general. I know that I was raised to never hit a girl, and I really can't ever see myself doing that in any situation, but to be honest, what does hitting anybody really accomplish? I've been in my fair share of fights, and it doesn't bother me or anything, but at the end of the day you just really feel like an ass for hitting someone; I can't see that being an enjoyable feeling.

Yes. It does seem like you are accomplishing something right then and there, but at the end of the day, you just made something bigger, when you could have extinguished the flames instead of spreading gas all over it.

WickedWeekend
April 26th, 2012, 11:50 PM
No he did not. Obviously he did not read the original post well enough, or is really poor at wording things.

Here's what happened for anyone too lazy to go back to the OP:
>2girls fight at Professional Russian's school
>PR would have beaten the shit out of one of the girls in the fight
>we discuss why he should not have done/thought of
>random sexism convo here
>back on topic now

Okay, everything makes sense now.

ImCoolBeans
April 26th, 2012, 11:56 PM
Yes. It does seem like you are accomplishing something right then and there, but at the end of the day, you just made something bigger, when you could have extinguished the flames instead of spreading gas all over it.

Exactly, so instead of adding fuel to the fire and heightening the situation in a negative way, why don't we just try and forget about this idea of violence and just get a teacher/person of authority to handle the situation. That would be the logical and most reasonable thing to do.

As Justin said, if you just stand by and let something happen, you yourself are just as much of a bully. You saw what was happening, thought whether to tell somebody or not, made the conscious decision to not tell somebody, and then let it be. Or if you take the violent approach, you are basically in the same situation, just taking a different path to get there; you add violence into the mix and you're just becoming the aggressor.

While I'm at it...
TWPR :arrow: ROTW
This is becoming more of a debate/intellectual discussion.

Mortal Coil
May 1st, 2012, 12:11 AM
never hit a girl, NEVER. A real man wouldnt punch her.

This sexist double standard that you're perpetuating is really ironic considering that you then bitch about a double standard later in your post. I'm a girl and can tell you that it annoys the FUCK out of me when guys go easy on me because... guess what?! I have fucking boobs. Get over it. PS you're a hypocrite.

If a guy sleeps with multiple people no one cares but if girls do their sluts? double standard.
Actually, guys who sleep with lots of people are called sluts too, the pseudo-feminist movement just blows this one thing out of proportion.

Truth
May 1st, 2012, 01:12 PM
Sorry to inform you but most of the world has these thoughts. And this is how its been going for centuries and will go on. And it is not sexist it is a fact.

Also in this situation PR should have not hit the girl but should have instead keep it peaceful. I'm going to just post a picture.

http://i.imgur.com/8tO7I.jpg

Maybe it's just me, but I am pretty sure 90% of this forum couldn't even get a punch in on that girl. :yeah:

Strength is irrelevant to sex. For all you know, the girl in the OP's post would have kicked his ass in front of the school. :yeah:

WickedWeekend
May 1st, 2012, 10:03 PM
Photoshop.

Jay_Team_Swagg
May 1st, 2012, 10:09 PM
I would gave stepped in, depending on their size, there is a limit to my strength lol plus do u reallh believe a 7th grader has slept with 5 guys and deserves to be called that...

Truth
May 2nd, 2012, 12:36 AM
Photoshop. Photoshop? Are you kidding me? That is a legitimate photo of the woman; she is really that muscular. There is no photoshop. Stop being a sexist asshole! Women can easily be twice as strong as you! Gender does not decide the amount you work out at a gym!

Professional Russian
May 2nd, 2012, 03:16 PM
I'm going to just post a picture.

image (http://i.imgur.com/8tO7I.jpg)

Maybe it's just me, but I am pretty sure 90% of this forum couldn't even get a punch in on that girl. :yeah:

Strength is irrelevant to sex. For all you know, the girl in the OP's post would have kicked his ass in front of the school. :yeah:

no she was a seventh grader about 5ft and 125pounds...im taller and bigger so that just about says something

Aves
May 2nd, 2012, 04:47 PM
no she was a seventh grader about 5ft and 125pounds...im taller and bigger so that just about says something

Good for you. So you would have beat a person who stood no chance against you, and one that did nothing personally to you. How does this make you feel? Shit, hopefully.

WickedWeekend
May 2nd, 2012, 05:12 PM
Photoshop? Are you kidding me? That is a legitimate photo of the woman; she is really that muscular. There is no photoshop. Stop being a sexist asshole! Women can easily be twice as strong as you! Gender does not decide the amount you work out at a gym!

Huh? What I'm saying is her arms don't look to be in correct proportions with her torso. I'm not trying to be sexist. If that were a picture of a man, I'd say the same thing. I agree, women can be just as powerful as men. However, you don't have the immediate right to call me an asshole.

double r
May 2nd, 2012, 11:29 PM
Huh? What I'm saying is her arms don't look to be in correct proportions with her torso. I'm not trying to be sexist. If that were a picture of a man, I'd say the same thing. I agree, women can be just as powerful as men. However, you don't have the immediate right to call me an asshole.
I totally agree with this statement

Truth
May 3rd, 2012, 04:47 PM
Huh? What I'm saying is her arms don't look to be in correct proportions with her torso. I'm not trying to be sexist. If that were a picture of a man, I'd say the same thing. I agree, women can be just as powerful as men. However, you don't have the immediate right to call me an asshole. It is a real photo. She only works out her arms. It is a very simple concept. I have every right to call you an asshole; you say that it's fake when you know nothing. This is a forum for debating, not making accusations and then trying to get sympathy for your lack of knowledge.

Simply put; men are not stronger than women. It's a well known fact that a lot of women work out. A lot of men don't, and they still think they are stronger than the average woman for sexist reasons.

I was originally proving a point to someone else, as well.

Silicate Wielder
May 6th, 2012, 10:13 PM
I would try to break up a fight but if one dosn't listen and tries to attack me and the other person I will just try and get the guy attacking down and on the ground then hold his/her arms behind his/her back and keep the person there untill a teacher or principle or an authority comes.

Professional Russian
May 7th, 2012, 03:36 PM
It is a real photo. She only works out her arms. It is a very simple concept. I have every right to call you an asshole; you say that it's fake when you know nothing. This is a forum for debating, not making accusations and then trying to get sympathy for your lack of knowledge.

Simply put; men are not stronger than women. It's a well known fact that a lot of women work out. A lot of men don't, and they still think they are stronger than the average woman for sexist reasons.

I was originally proving a point to someone else, as well.

How the hell did you guys get in a conversation about a girl with big ass arms

I would try to break up a fight but if one dosn't listen and tries to attack me and the other person I will just try and get the guy attacking down and on the ground then hold his/her arms behind his/her back and keep the person there untill a teacher or principle or an authority comes.

If i get punched first im punching back sorry to say

Truth
May 7th, 2012, 05:13 PM
How the hell did you guys get in a conversation about a girl with big ass arms



If i get punched first im punching back sorry to say Just saying; not all women are that weak. The girl in the photo would only need to blink an eye to KO you, or anyone else in this thread. :yes:

NotYourSombrero
May 7th, 2012, 06:30 PM
That was a rather immature thing to post on facebook. You shouldn't have gotten involved considering this did not involve you.
(Shes a slut by the way...in 7th grade...and slept with like 5 guys...just what ive heard)
You can't believe anything you hear in school I honestly don't trust anybody. At all. I have heard more lies than facts in my life:(

plebble
May 10th, 2012, 12:56 PM
also never hit a girl, NEVER. A real man wouldnt punch her

So girls are allowed to beat the crap out of a man and he isn't allowed to lay a finger on her? Am I the only one who sees this as sexist against men? If a girl has beat up someone else for no reason, I'd hit her.

Efflorescence
May 10th, 2012, 02:15 PM
So girls are allowed to beat the crap out of a man and he isn't allowed to lay a finger on her? Am I the only one who sees this as sexist against men? If a girl has beat up someone else for no reason, I'd hit her.

You haven't read the previous posts, have you? :P

plebble
May 10th, 2012, 02:23 PM
You haven't read the previous posts, have you? :P

No I have not:P