How to deal with a suicidal friend

[Dark_Desires]

So one of my best friends has been suicidal alot of times and he cuts that sorta thing.Anyway i used to cut and was suicidal many times but recovering.Anyway i didnt know were else to put this but if its miss placed sorry.Anyway he is one of my best friends and atm i dont know how to talk to him i want him to get help but he doesnt want it.And when he is feeling deppressed or wants to cut i dont know what to say.Its even worse now cause i made him promise he wouldnt kill himself and i wouldnt cut and we would talk when we both felt that way.He doesnt want help but his gf who is also my friend always says it to him or wants me to tell him he needs help.And atm he isnt acting himself and his home and school life are shit.How do i deal with him or help him i dont want him to die i love him alot as a friend.
More or less this has come out as a jumble but if u can make sense of it any advice on how to deal with him?.

[Desuetude]

Really you just need to be there for him. Make him see that he isn't alone and that you'll always be there to help him get through it.
You might want to think about trying to make him tell someone though, someone that could help him even just one person, an adult he trusts? Though don't do it for him, he'll reach out for someone when he's ready but you just need to give him a push in the right direction. Show him that he's worth something as well, usually when you're feeling suicidal you feel like you're a burden to the world so showing him he means something could do some good.
If you think it might help maybe show him VT, he needs all the suport he can get, if not VT then another forum website or help site where he could get help annonymously?
It's great that you want to help and you're trying to find different ways to help him cope. That's what friends are about, being there when the going gets tough. You're both very lucky to have each other.

[oceandude33a]

just try to let him no that your always there for him, and no matter what even though it might seem long right now in a couple years it will all be better. nothings worse then getting that phone call saying you friend is dead. i got it 2 months ago saying he stepped infront of a train and the worst part is no one saw it comming and no one knows why still, we all wish that we could have been there, so please dont let them happen to you and let your friend know ur there for him

[Mortal Coil]

Maybe you can start by not trying to make him stop cutting. Cutting is a coping method, and without it he's more likely to kill himself. Like Nikki said, maybe you should show him VT or a similar help website.

[Stryker125]

You just gotta be there for him. When my depression was at it's worst, my friend/roomate at the time was there for me. We were there for each other actually. You don't always have to talk, but just be there. He's gotta know that he's not alone, and that there's always a shoulder to cry on. You can tell that he's invited to your house whenever, and just be around. If you can tell he's particularly down, offer to talk about it. If he doesn't want to, don't push it too much. Just say "alright", and just keep being there.

That's the best thing you can do for him in my opinion.

[Weeping_Angel]

As Alex has so correctly stated, don't try to make him stop because cutting is a coping method, and as Nikki said, maybe you should show him a website like VT. I don't think that you can completely help him stop his thoughts, but you can for sure help him along the way and be there for him when he needs help. He is lucky to have a friend like you that cares about him, but you can't force him to change. Just stand by his side, and help him in whatever way he needs help.

But I'm saying this, and I can't emphasize this enough, if he tells you that he going to commit suicide, and he tells you not to tell, no matter what you have to tell an adult close to him immediately, because it will be beneficial to him. And even though he may be mad at you, and not want to be your friend, you saved a life, and maybe one day he will forgive you.

[Dark_Desires]

Thanks for the replys.And i never said anything about getting him to stop cutting.I just dont want him to kill himself.