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double r
April 21st, 2012, 11:18 AM
Name the most pointless war in history. American, to anything. And explain why.
My answer: Vietnam, and Korea because the Americans had no proper equipment, and or the support. Plus we lost the war, and lost many lives.
Erasmus
April 21st, 2012, 11:50 AM
All of them. All wars are pointless.
Professional Russian
April 21st, 2012, 12:32 PM
Iraq...it was over fucking oil
double r
April 21st, 2012, 12:40 PM
Not all wars are pointless WWII was not pointless.
Sugaree
April 21st, 2012, 12:40 PM
Korea and Vietnam.
Thunduhbuhlt
April 21st, 2012, 01:22 PM
Vietnam or Iraq/Afghanistan.
Vietnam wasn't our war, it was a civil war, and we had no business to get into it.
Iraq/Afghan wars were unjust. We had not reason to invade Iraq except that Bush wanted oil. The same goes for Afghanistan.
Genghis Khan
April 21st, 2012, 01:33 PM
Iraq (2003) was the most useless war/invasion.
The Afghanistan operation since the Soviet-Afghan war was so badly handled by the Bush administration that it had earned Bush his place as the worst president in existence.
Vietnam is definitely there, but I'd also say the Anglo-Afghan wars accomplished little to nothing. The British never took control of Afghanistan and the third war Durand line acquisition didn't benefit the British in the least, in fact arguably it's benefited Pakistan the most.
The Kargil war between Pakistan and India was also one of the most pointless operations. Pakistan's dictator Musharraf thought after the Sino-Indian war and Indian defeat Pakistan could take advantage of the situation and capture Kashmir. They managed to kill a lot of Indian soldiers in Kashmir but soon after at a United Nations meeting Pakistan received a little pressure from the U.S and soon Musharraf surrendered, not only that, but he left his soldiers in Kashmir to either starve or be shot off by the Indian military. Nothing was accomplished, soldiers died and so did Pakistan's sovereignty.
I'd say most wars are pointless anyway, most issues can be solved through the medium of logical discourse.
Oh wait, actually even the Soviet-Afghan war was quite pointless for Afghan people. In the sense that they were actually socio-economically more well off under the Soviet-Democratic rule after the Saur revolution than post-Soviet Afghanistan, when drug lords took over and straight after that the Taliban. Even now Afghanistan has no sovereignty, there's poverty, misogyny, intolerance, terrorism (funded by Pakistan) and drug abuse. Had it properly engaged with the Soviets and remained a Socialist country it would've established a proper constitution, adopted some kind of democracy and would've avoided religious fundamentalism.
That's about all the wars I can currently recall.
Electra Heart
April 21st, 2012, 03:06 PM
Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq. Many reasons.
Cicero
April 21st, 2012, 03:35 PM
I'd have to say the Cold War, although it wasn't exactly a war. It's still classified as one. All the war was, was Russia and the US trying to one up each other with technology. But I do believe it was useful in the aspects of getting better technology, but other than that it was a dumb war.
Iraq...it was over fucking oil
I wouldnt say it was pointless or over oil. It was also over the 9/11 attack and them making Weapons of Mass Destruction/Nuclear weapons. Plus, it helped us to realize we need to get oil from our country. But it's good we're waiting, because when the Middle-Eastern countries run out. The world will be coming to us for oil :)
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double r
April 21st, 2012, 03:59 PM
True but the cold war was never an war it was an period of political unrest this is for war not political unrest situations:)
Genghis Khan
April 21st, 2012, 04:35 PM
I wouldnt say it was pointless or over oil. It was also over the 9/11 attack and them making Weapons of Mass Destruction/Nuclear weapons. Plus, it helped us to realize we need to get oil from our country. But it's good we're waiting, because when the Middle-Eastern countries run out. The world will be coming to us for oil :)
Iraq was not responsible for 9/11 nor did it have any weapons of mass destruction.
Plus your imperialist policies and support for dictators in Middle Eastern/Latin American countries to extract as much oil as possible is exactly why the world has a negative view of America.
cody999
April 21st, 2012, 04:39 PM
all wars are important without them there wouldn't be a legal way to kill someone
Iron Man
April 21st, 2012, 04:51 PM
all wars are important without them there wouldn't be a legal way to kill someone
What?
Bones
April 21st, 2012, 08:50 PM
This may not be correct, but from what i've learnt in history, South Vietnam was a part of the the SEATO treaty, and America, Australia, Britain and all the other countries that joined in the war did so because, not only did they not want communism to spread, it was required of them by the treaty. Also, just out of curiosity, why does everyone think that the Korean War was pointless?
Can'tHelpIt
April 21st, 2012, 10:36 PM
all wars are important without them there wouldn't be a legal way to kill someone
Uh excuse me? You WANT to kill someone? Let me correct you
all wars are unimportant because of them their is a legal way to kill someone
MisterSix
April 21st, 2012, 11:12 PM
I think the 6 day war was quite pointless
Amnesiac
April 21st, 2012, 11:16 PM
The Fourth Crusade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Crusade), for Catholics attacking other Christians when they had a common Muslim enemy for, what, the past 200 years.
The Children's Crusade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade).
Vietnam, for obvious reasons.
Iraq, definitely, and Afghanistan to a lesser extent.
I think the 6 day war was quite pointless
Looking back on it now, it really was. However, I can see why Israel would view the Arabs' troop movements as a potential attack.
obsessivedisorder
April 22nd, 2012, 03:25 AM
WWI. We discussed it in my summer school World History class. It was all a misunderstanding kind of thing and got blown out of proportion. Fts
Smeagol
April 22nd, 2012, 06:16 AM
The American Revolution. A lot of people were killed and Canada got it's independence eventually and Canada has better economic ties with Great Britian.
Mortal Coil
April 22nd, 2012, 08:01 AM
Iraq was not responsible for 9/11 nor did it have any weapons of mass destruction.
Plus your imperialist policies and support for dictators in Middle Eastern/Latin American countries to extract as much oil as possible is exactly why the world has a negative view of America.
Thank you for doing what I was going to do. I agree, Iraq was the most pointless.
XxAssasiNxX
April 22nd, 2012, 08:40 AM
All wars are stupid. more importantly wars are time bombs. they never would have happend ive the human rqce was smarter and didint fight over stupid things...
JackShephard
April 22nd, 2012, 01:08 PM
Any war really. I don't see why (my country especially) has to stick their noses where it doesn't belong. Actually, I do. Greed. Difference. Those things are what we really fight over. The only credible wars are ones where people rise above their oppressive governments. Like the american revolution. Still, there was greed in involved. King George was an asshat. He fought for control and wealth. Americans fought for independence.
Professional Russian
April 22nd, 2012, 01:20 PM
All wars are stupid. more importantly wars are time bombs. they never would have happend ive the human rqce was smarter and didint fight over stupid things...
oh because the mass murder(genocide) of jews was stupid...and pearl harbor was stupid...deffinately(yes i know holocaust and pearl harbor are the same war...and yes i know its WWII)
Green Arrow
April 22nd, 2012, 01:28 PM
Vietnam, Korea and Iraq. :)
MisterSix
April 22nd, 2012, 07:09 PM
oh because the mass murder(genocide) of jews was stupid...and pearl harbor was stupid...deffinately(yes i know holocaust and pearl harbor are the same war...and yes i know its WWII)
Actually they were two completely different wars that just happened to be at the same time
Professional Russian
April 22nd, 2012, 07:20 PM
Actually they were two completely different wars that just happened to be at the same time
and they combined to make WWII
double r
April 23rd, 2012, 09:16 PM
True they did
Church
April 23rd, 2012, 10:03 PM
Does war on drugs count?
If not War on Terrorism, Israel can fight their own wars
double r
April 23rd, 2012, 11:17 PM
If it involves any kind of military action other then the cold war then go right ahead.
And I beg to differ with the Israel thing, they have an small army and if they do not get the support they won't be their the next day.
MisterSix
April 24th, 2012, 03:19 AM
and they combined to make WWII
I still don't understand the logic in it.
Lets combine two different wars that are on different sides of the world and were started for different reasons
Truth
April 24th, 2012, 05:15 AM
oh because the mass murder(genocide) of jews was stupid...and pearl harbor was stupid...deffinately(yes i know holocaust and pearl harbor are the same war...and yes i know its WWII) If the human race wasn't stupid Pearl Harbor would've never happened and Hitler would've embraced his Jewish heritage. You can't really make that kind of argument.
Church
April 24th, 2012, 08:16 AM
I still don't understand the logic in it.
Lets combine two different wars that are on different sides of the world and were started for different reasons
Because it was the Allied Forces vs the Axis Forces, they were allied countries so in a way its just a massive two-front war.
Genghis Khan
April 24th, 2012, 08:35 AM
And I beg to differ with the Israel thing, they have an small army and if they do not get the support they won't be their the next day.
Actually that's wrong. Their military power is second only to the United States, they are treated as a princess nation plus they're given more rights than any other country by the U.S and considering that their weaponry technology is constantly updated by the States they could easily win any military conflict against any Arab nation.
Azunite
April 24th, 2012, 09:27 AM
Well believe it or not, Turkey is still at war with the Republic of San Marino.
Appparently, San Marino joined WW1 and after the war Turkey signed agreements with other nations, except San Marino. So according to official records, the two countries are still at war.
But to be more serious;
Actually that's wrong. Their military power is second only to the United States, they are treated as a princess nation plus they're given more rights than any other country by the U.S and considering that their weaponry technology is constantly updated by the States they could easily win any military conflict against any Arab nation.
True, you think Israel got the logistic support of the US during the Six Day War? It is unbelievable, whole Arab universe versus a country as big as a metropol and the Arabs got humiliated.
double r
April 24th, 2012, 08:15 PM
Actually that's wrong. Their military power is second only to the United States, they are treated as a princess nation plus they're given more rights than any other country by the U.S and considering that their weaponry technology is constantly updated by the States they could easily win any military conflict against any Arab nation.
I have family in Israel that are in their intelligence department, and their stories haunt ( sending videos of Jews being tortured) me, but honestly they have enough of the skills, knowledge, and weapons to defend themselves for the first blow. But we all have to remember most Arabs hate Israel and if the time comes they will untie and take it for themselves. But the good thing about the support is that it show that their is some presence, they do not need US army bases or need to give Israel trillions of our money, but just a bit of publicity to show that they are there can do a lot.
Also I doubt if San Marino ( the one in the northeastern part of Italy) is in war. They do not even have a military. But it is possible.
Rage of the Menace
April 25th, 2012, 05:48 AM
World War 1, absolutely no one won that and caused World War 2, an even worse conflict.
Professional Russian
April 25th, 2012, 02:28 PM
If the human race wasn't stupid Pearl Harbor would've never happened and Hitler would've embraced his Jewish heritage. You can't really make that kind of argument.
So your telling me that the human race is stupid...Hitler was a fucking genious. now i know people are going to say well hitler killed all those innocent jews...your correct he did but to be able to do that he had to have support and he is a genious because he got all those people to follow him and believe every word he said...The human race is not stupid we are actually very very smart if we applied our selves.
Eclipsical
April 26th, 2012, 11:57 AM
Does war on drugs count?
If not War on Terrorism, Israel can fight their own wars
I can see a lot of people who feel like I do
I can see a lot of people who feel like I don't
I go on step lightly even when i'm heavy
high jump the slump open up fot the Revy Horton Heat
sweet what am I displayin' forgot what I was saying
I know I must be laying a pipe you got a gripe
with the way I get high Graffix bong sing along with a cry of a
mandatory sentence for a crime with no victim
when everyone knows jail terms should be picked in
order of the pain that they cause (you know)
do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law
until you violate the rights of another
respect the space of your sister and your brother
the war on drugs may be well intentioned
but it falls f---ing flat when you stop and mention
the over crowded prisons where a rapists gets paroled
to make room for a dude who has sold
a pound of weed to me that's a crime
here's to good people doin time y'all
Crescendo
April 29th, 2012, 05:25 PM
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