"Fuck The Police/The Man" (about illegal drugs)

[zachary2]

Am I the only one who hates authority? I genuinely do. :furious:

Anywho, one of the reasons I do is because of all the bullshit going on with drugs. If I want to do Acid, Coke, Weed or whatever I don't see why some random dude in a suit can tell me not to. It's not harming anyone else. Some may argue, "if you do drugs then get behind the wheel you might kill someone!" which my reply is, "yeah, you're thinking of alcohol which is legal." But then again hippies in the 60s are known for doing a lot of drugs such as LSD and they're known for being a very violent and disturbing group of people(not really but you may get eager to shout "Charles Manson!!" but he would've been a lunatic even if LSD wouldn't have existed). Also, why the heck did the US government classify LSD as a Schedule 1 drug, that's bullshit. It does have a medical use, people with cluster headaches have taken acid in the past because it helps. But since the government just loves to fuck with everyone they'd rather those with suicide headaches off themselves. My theory is that drugs like LSD for example (I just happen to have done a lot of research about LSD in particular) make people so aware of things such as war and makes people dislike all the crap that the government does and then they fight back(example: the peace movement in the 60s).

There's footage of an experiment the US government did where they gave members of the army LSD. The people who took it of course became happy and nice and weren't at all focusing on killing anyone. One guy, I remember, started climbing a tree because he wanted to feed the birds. You understand that this doesn't do any good at all, people don't want to kill anyone when they're on this. And my theory is that this is why most authorities made it and other drugs such as it illegal. They use the fact that on some occasions you could have a bad experience(a bad trip/bummer) as a reason why it shouldn't be allowed. With that logic we should also make peanuts illegal (some are allergic), and also pizza because once I hate too much and felt like crap. But that's stupid. Just like banning drugs are. Anyway, I want you to reply and explain how you feel about this.

And I saw in the "Drugs and Meds" forum: "PROMOTING ILLEGAL DRUG USAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED." That is bullshit man. Why? Why is that prohibited. Would you get in trouble with the law if people realised that drugs aren't all bad? :hmm: Though I'm not promoting "illegal drug use", I'm promoting that you do your research about things before you judge something. And I dunno if any of this makes any sense, I actually planned to write about something else but yeah. I just got very passionate about this.

[Jupiter]

And I saw in the "Drugs and Meds" forum: "PROMOTING ILLEGAL DRUG USAGE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED." That is bullshit man. Why? Why is that prohibited. Would you get in trouble with the law if people realised that drugs aren't all bad? :hmm: Though I'm not promoting "illegal drug use", I'm promoting that you do your research about things before you judge something. And I dunno if any of this makes any sense, I actually planned to write about something else but yeah. I just got very passionate about this.

This is because drugs are not just bad because of the law, but they are bad for your health. Self harm isn't against the law, but you aren't supposed to go around promoting it, bud. Yes, people should do research, but not just on drugs, man. Where exactly did you find that one video of yours?

[zachary2]

This is because drugs are not just bad because of the law, but they are bad for your health. Self harm isn't against the law, but you aren't supposed to go around promoting it, bud. Yes, people should do research, but not just on drugs, man. Where exactly did you find that one video of yours?

Fast food is bad for your health, should we make that illegal too? What about cigarettes? Alcohol?

And you can find the video I mentioned on several places on the internet with the most accessible being YouTube.

[ImCoolBeans]

Why is that prohibited? I'm sorry but that is utterly stupid. This is a help site where people come to try and break addiction, break their ways, and try to go back to their somewhat normal life. If someone was heavily promoting drug use do you really think that those people would benefit from the section existing at all? No. It defeats it's purpose.

Drugs like LSD, cocaine, heroin, etc... are all illegal because they negatively effect society in such a way that not only is the health of people impaired, but there are complete idiots who cannot handle themselves or function as a member of society under the influence of, or have recently been under the influence of, these drugs. When the substances pose a risk to other members of society, but mainly pose a risk to the users themselves, do you really and whole heartedly believe that they should be legal? These aren't just "bad for you" but they are psychoactive drugs which can drive you to the point of mental illness and create a serious risk for not only you, but society in general.

You have no facts at all to back up your rash statement about Charles Manson, and whether I agree with that or not, you simply can't just pull an assumption out of thin air and use it as if it were a proven argument.

[zachary2]

Why is that prohibited? I'm sorry but that is utterly stupid. This is a help site where people come to try and break addiction, break their ways, and try to go back to their somewhat normal life. If someone was heavily promoting drug use do you really think that those people would benefit from the section existing at all? No. It defeats it's purpose.
You can't get addicted to LSD. No one would come here trying to stop doing it. Does that I mean I could promote it?

Drugs like LSD, cocaine, heroin, etc... are all illegal because they negatively effect society in such a way that not only is the health of people impaired, but there are complete idiots who cannot handle themselves or function as a member of society under the influence of, or have recently been under the influence of, these drugs. When the substances pose a risk to other members of society, but mainly pose a risk to the users themselves, do you really and whole heartedly believe that they should be legal? These aren't just "bad for you" but they are psychoactive drugs which can drive you to the point of mental illness and create a serious risk for not only you, but society in general.

One word. Alcohol. Why isn't that illegal then? Obviously this means that what you said is not the cause of why drugs are illegal. And you say it can create mental illnesses in a person, which is true. But I don't see why it's not my choice whether I want to take that risk or not. And yes, I "really and whole heartedly believe that they should be legal".


You have no facts at all to back up your rash statement about Charles Manson, and whether I agree with that or not, you simply can't just pull an assumption out of thin air and use it as if it were a proven argument.
No of course not, my main point was that LSD isn't the cause of "insanity".

[ImCoolBeans]

You can't get addicted to LSD. No one would come here trying to stop doing it. Does that I mean I could promote it?


One word. Alcohol. Why isn't that illegal then? Obviously this means that what you said is not the cause of why drugs are illegal. And you say it can create mental illnesses in a person, which is true. But I don't see why it's not my choice whether I want to take that risk or not. And yes, I "really and whole heartedly believe that they should be legal".


No of course not, my main point was that LSD isn't the cause of "insanity".

You can promote it if you want me to infract you, I guess. Because that's what you'll get for promoting drugs here. So no.

Alcohol isn't illegal because it's a huge business, and last time it was attempted to be made illegal, the crime rate went through the roof and gang wars ensued.

Well you can really believe whatever you want to I guess, lol, but when it comes down to it, that will never realistically happen.

[Scarface]

Dude, you are a serious clown. Or you must be some funny ass troll. I am absolutely flabbergasted by your insipid little remarks about shit from the 60's. You must not have done your full research. I don't give a shit what you think you know about drugs, man, I done plenty of shit in my time and I can tell you that I'm glad they're illegal.

I know for a fact that if they were legal, I'd certainly be dead. If they were legalized, I'm sure it would "lessen your little crime rate" but surely you're not so stupid that you think it'd be eliminated. I've been addicted and drug deep down to the abyss of hell and hit my very own rock bottom. I really don't give a shit if you think you can't get addicted, you obviously haven't done too much hardcore, or you been smoking so much weed and watching lame youtube videos and are blind by CNN, MSNBC or some bloomburg tv bullshit, cause I ain't buying your little argument. This has NOTHING to do with authority, but more so people's well being. Its YOUR choice whether you want to do drugs, its YOUR CHOICE if you want to buy them, but once you get addicted, it will ruin your life as mine was and I'm STILL trying to rebuild that tattered, destroyed life and the damages to my body that will haunt me and remind me of my usage forever.

Oh and by the way, promotion drug use is illegal, because if you aren't aware, that some people if they don't know what they're doing with drugs can die on their first try. and also if you haven't noticed we are a TEEN HELP SITE. WHere teens come here to feel safe and feel comfortable in a drug free and helpful environment, I don't know what the fuck sparked your little temper tantrum, but you need to calm down boy, maybe this is some kind of shit you're going through, I'll never know, but one day you'll wake up.

[MisterSix]

No of course not, my main point was that LSD isn't the cause of "insanity".

Try saying that to he victims of Project MK-ULTRA

[Aves]

I'm just going to assume you do drugs if you really care this much, in which case, you're gonna be another biased fuck who only cares about not getting in trouble for a buzz.

On here promoting illegal drugs is prohibited because not all drugs are the same for one. Some do have very harmful side-effects, others don't. Because of that alone, I can see it being prohibited. Also, members don't need peer-pressure to do something that could get them into trouble with the law. That's the last thing we should want from our members. Morals also just play a role in the choice, I'd imagine. It makes the site look better if we don't have tons of kids promoting drugs and what not.

Deal with it. If you don't like it, you can gladly leave.

[Cicero]

Everything is illegal for a reason. Most drugs are illegal because of the side effects or because of what they do to you. Marijuana has a actual use by hospitals and for certain illnesses. But even when marijuana is legalized it has to be under strict supervision.

99% of illegal drugs are harmful. Why should VT allow you to say "Hey man, doing _______ will make life amazing..."? drugs are illegal for a reason. Even if you have done all the drugs under the sun doesn't mean it won't catch up with you. Cause it will. Marijuana is extremely harmful on the lungs, that's a fact. Heroin is extremely deadly if you use it enough, that's a fact. LSD is extremely harmful/deadly, that's a fact.

I will say this, there was an interesting article about legalizing marijuana (for medical use of course) and it was saying how it could help the economy big time:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2012/04/20/stirring-the-pot-could-legalizing-marijuana-save-the-economy/

I think this was an extremely stupid thread. Sorry to burst your bubble, but drugs like LSD and Heroin and Shrooms will probably always be illegal.
Here is why LSD is dangerous/deadly:
http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/facts/drugslsd

And FYI it's medically proven that alcohol is healthy, having a small glass of wine every night is proven to help kill all the bacteria in your stomach.


So overall, this is a stupid thread because LSD can harm many different people, and can put people in harms way. So stop complaint about the government ruining your life.

So you understand what a few drugs can do:
LSD causes severe depression, and psychosis. Heroin causes heart infections and AIDs. Marijuana is very harmful toward developing lungs. And Meth causes someone to become violent and psychotic behavior.

[Korashk]

Anyone that's glad that drugs are illegal is ignorant of the effects of keeping drugs illegal. Keeping drugs illegal is exponentially worse for society than any kind of harm done to it by the drugs themselves.

Drugs may be illegal for reasons, but that doesn't make those reasons logical or good. Everything has a reason behind it, but that's doesn't mean it's justified.

Scarface, regardless of your personal experiences it is a FACT that drug users would be better off if drugs were legal. The data supporting drug legalization completely overwhelms that supporting its outlawing.

[Genghis Khan]

>Finds a teen helpsite for schizophrenics, depressed teens and drug addicts
>Insists it's a good idea to promote illegal drug use

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[Mortal Coil]

>Finds a teen helpsite for schizophrenics, depressed teens and drug addicts
>Insists it's a good idea to promote illegal drug use

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That's what I was thinking too.

This is ridiculous. It's fine to hate authority and have your opinions, but really? Back up your research and maybe try a slightly more balanced argument. Alcohol is legal because of the number of people already addicted to it as well as its use in religious services (communion wine etc.) They tried the prohibition back in the 20s and changed that rule back for a reason.

[Professional Russian]

I love readind stupid threads like this...cracks me up.

Either way there is a reason drugs are ilegal most of them do cause harm as all of the arguments above. I personaly think that alcohol should be illegal(mostly because my dad drinks a case of beer aday and beats the shit out of me at night for no reason) so thats why i think alcohol should be illegal. but this is a pretty dumb argument.

[Truth]

Everything is illegal for a reason. Most drugs are illegal because of the side effects or because of what they do to you. Marijuana has a actual use by hospitals and for certain illnesses. But even when marijuana is legalized it has to be under strict supervision.

99% of illegal drugs are harmful. Why should VT allow you to say "Hey man, doing _______ will make life amazing..."? drugs are illegal for a reason. Even if you have done all the drugs under the sun doesn't mean it won't catch up with you. Cause it will. Marijuana is extremely harmful on the lungs, that's a fact. Heroin is extremely deadly if you use it enough, that's a fact. LSD is extremely harmful/deadly, that's a fact.

I will say this, there was an interesting article about legalizing marijuana (for medical use of course) and it was saying how it could help the economy big time:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2012/04/20/stirring-the-pot-could-legalizing-marijuana-save-the-economy/

I think this was an extremely stupid thread. Sorry to burst your bubble, but drugs like LSD and Heroin and Shrooms will probably always be illegal.
Here is why LSD is dangerous/deadly:
http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/facts/drugslsd

And FYI it's medically proven that alcohol is healthy, having a small glass of wine every night is proven to help kill all the bacteria in your stomach.


So overall, this is a stupid thread because LSD can harm many different people, and can put people in harms way. So stop complaint about the government ruining your life.

So you understand what a few drugs can do:
LSD causes severe depression, and psychosis. Heroin causes heart infections and AIDs. Marijuana is very harmful toward developing lungs. And Meth causes someone to become violent and psychotic behavior. Can you prove to us that 99% of all illegal drugs are harmful? I'm sorry, but you can't, because it's not true. A lot fewer than that are harmful. Mushrooms in low doses can be used to cure Migraines, without ever even getting "high". Just because it can lead to bad consequences if you overdose, is irrelevant. If I overdose on Tylenol, I die too.

Marijuana leaves no permanent damage on developing lungs, I'm sorry.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19679602 In fact it's linked with having increased air capacity.

While I agree a large variety of drugs are horrible for you, INCLUDING legal drugs, you can not generalize all of them and just go "THEY ARE BAD MMMMMK CHILDREN".

I do not support the usage of illegal drugs, just information about them. Using them tends to lead to bad things. :yes: