Outlawing Gayness

[mattyboy28]

I just have a question that no one can really seem to answer. Why is it so BAD if two men want to get married? I mean, its different, so what? So, african american people are a minority in the US, so why is it better to discrimenate against gays then to the african american population? Where did all of this start?

[redcar]

Because at the end of the day it all comes down to religion. Christianity believes homosexuality is wrong, so thats why marraige is banned in some places. Like Ireland is a Catholic country and we used to be very religious. Because up until 1992 being gay was technically illegal. Although it was not enforced, what was enforced was up until about 1997, no media could portray being gay as something that is good or acceptable.

So I put it all down to religion.

[Melchi0r]

Being gay is no longer illegal, but gay marriage is. Just like in Ireland, there used to be tons of US states where gay sex was illegal. Gay sex is still illegal in Arab/Muslim countries, where same-sex couples are actually executed if caught having sex.

What a world we live in, eh?

[mattyboy28]

Yeah... what a world. What exactly happened to the "free" country that the US stood for? Religion should be kept away from lawmaking, and thats what theyre trying to do, and does it bother them so bad that two guys are getting married? My point is, why is our country that is supposed to be letting people live their own lives, influencing so many people to avoid gay marriage? This should be just a trivial matter to them, so why is it bugging our government who is SUPPOSED to be staying away from religious matters?!

[MoveAlong]

Because the governments are corrupt.
It's such a tough question to answer, but really our freedom isn't being accepted and since it's such a hardship in society, they complain to the government. Once those with the same opinions that gayness is wrong come into office, they pressure and lead the contry the way they want, which is something that we disagree with :|

[mattyboy28]

Because the governments are corrupt.
It's such a tough question to answer, but really our freedom isn't being accepted and since it's such a hardship in society, they complain to the government. Once those with the same opinions that gayness is wrong come into office, they pressure and lead the contry the way they want, which is something that we disagree with :|

And yet many people are blinded by this and LET this happen? Talk about corrupt...

[MoveAlong]

And yet many people are blinded by this and LET this happen? Talk about corrupt...

Those opinions are usually caused by religion or lack of education :|

[Melchi0r]

Those opinions are usually caused by religion or lack of education :|

Lack of education is the biggest reason for ignorance, which leads to hatred. To erase homophobia, we need to educate people about homosexuality as a positive aspect of human sexuality and not a sin or disease.

[Everglow]

Lack of education is the biggest reason for ignorance, which leads to hatred. To erase homophobia, we need to educate people about homosexuality as a positive aspect of human sexuality and not a sin or disease.

I don't want this to sound condescending, but what kind of positive aspects are there in homosexuality? If you have read anything about me or my posts on this issue, you'll understand why I don't mean for this to sound confrontational.

[Trademarked]

I don't want this to sound condescending, but what kind of positive aspects are there in homosexuality? If you have read anything about me or my posts on this issue, you'll understand why I don't mean for this to sound confrontational.

it didnt sound condescending at all. it just pretty much sounds like you're an idiot.
there may be no positive aspects in your, or anyone elses closed mind.
what if the situation were switched. what if the dominant people on this earth were homosexual and were discriminating against gays?

[Everglow]

closed mind..i beg to differ..i'm bi and i still don't see any positives...ohh and yeller, you missed the point of everything i said..ha and i'm the idiot

[redcar]

I don't want this to sound condescending, but what kind of positive aspects are there in homosexuality? If you have read anything about me or my posts on this issue, you'll understand why I don't mean for this to sound confrontational.
Well I could equally say what are the positives of being straight? And I dont consider having children positive because I detest them.
The arguement can work both ways.

[Melchi0r]

Okay, so "positive" seemed to be poor word choice on my behalf due to the little argument that broke out. :/ I meant we need to teach that homosexuals are not diseased, they're not all flamers, you're not a sick person for being homosexual, they can be fit parents, that they have feelings and don't deserve homophobia bullshit, etc.

[Everglow]

Alex, I totally agree. Kids suck!

Thanks Josh for that clarification, that makes much more sense to me :)

ok so I tried to multiquote, but it got shot to hell :neutral:

oh and thanks to both of you for not being arrogant and rude about your responses either :D

[MoveAlong]

I don't want this to sound condescending, but what kind of positive aspects are there in homosexuality? If you have read anything about me or my posts on this issue, you'll understand why I don't mean for this to sound confrontational.

Well they balance each other out. As far as I'm concerned, there's a lot more hate towards homosexuals that is wrong so that's a downside (which it shouldn't be)

Although we can say that we have the same things as you have or can have

loving family
thinking that the gender we're attracted to is the shit
a life
etc

whatever you can have we can have, like prejudices

[mattyboy28]

Alex, I totally agree. Kids suck!

Is that a joke? Cuz otherwise that is the most ignorant thing anyone has said in this thread...

[Melchi0r]

Is that a joke? Cuz otherwise that is the most ignorant thing anyone has said in this thread...

How is it ignorant?

I don't know if this is on topic or not, but I once saw a video of a speech given which debunked lots of reasons for homophobia. One part of the speech that I loved was "Homosexuals Flaunt It!" The speaker brought up the fact that gay people can talk about their boyfriends or girlfriends just as much as straight people, but it's only "flaunting it" when gay people talk about their girlfriends/boyfriends.

[Everglow]

Is that a joke? Cuz otherwise that is the most ignorant thing anyone has said in this thread...

What!??!! It's my personal preference that I despise kids. I have never wanted to have kids when I grow older. This is a decision of mine that I have based off of personal reasons that you have no reason to question.

[MoveAlong]

Is that a joke? Cuz otherwise that is the most ignorant thing anyone has said in this thread...

That was just an opinion since redcar and avow aren't planning on having kids ever. No probs :D

[mattyboy28]

Oh god, I totally need to shut up rite now, I totally misunderstood that, I am sooo sorry >_<

[latedeveloper313]

Okay, so "positive" seemed to be poor word choice on my behalf due to the little argument that broke out. :/ I meant we need to teach that homosexuals are not diseased, they're not all flamers, you're not a sick person for being homosexual, they can be fit parents, that they have feelings and don't deserve homophobia bullshit, etc.

I have to say I'm gay and I agree, there arent any positives as there are no negatives for straight/gay/bisexuals they just are!

[NintendoFanboy]

I am gay, I'll admit it, but I don't want to get married to a man, that's just wrong. I'm glad that gays can't get married. But they can still act like it! eheheheh...

[MoveAlong]

Why do you think guys getting married is wrong NintendoFanboy?

[Rawrbaby]

Fanboy what is wrong with it i want to get married someday but im gay so i will get married to guy but why is it wrong i mean it says in the bible that marrige is between a man and a woman but its ok i mean we LGBT folk diserv rights we have been killed, tortued, hurt, injured, and prosecuted for hundreds of years just like black folk and jews but look at them now they have rights rights to vote rights to speech they can go whever they want gays should be allowed to marry i mean its love what people dont see is that we are in love they dont see gays as in love only straight folk

[Everglow]

Oh god, I totally need to shut up rite now, I totally misunderstood that, I am sooo sorry >_<


It's ok, just don't do it again :D


I do have an issue with getting married period. As per my faith, it's a sacred and holy sacrament and I believe that. However, our elected officials have assimilated the term marriage to a plethora of legal terms that define taxes. I personally don't believe marriage should cost anything other than love :neutral:

[MoveAlong]

I agree
I don't really care what anyone thinks as far as marriage goes (unless they pester me), because I just want some guy I can hug and hold and love and share my life with :)

[NintendoFanboy]

Sorry, I just find it wrong. I'm okay with gays, but I'm as concerned as any Christian should be, and the Bible says (On four accounts!) that homosexuality is wrong. (Even though I am... :eek: Oh well, I'll end up in heaven anyway. We all sin!)

[Rawrbaby]

actually thar are 6 accounts of homosexuality in the bible that say it is wrong but thar are 362 accounts of straight wrongs

[Everglow]

Sorry, I just find it wrong. I'm okay with gays, but I'm as concerned as any Christian should be, and the Bible says (On four accounts!) that homosexuality is wrong. (Even though I am... :eek: Oh well, I'll end up in heaven anyway. We all sin!)

Yes :)

it's homosexuality the act that's the sin, not necessarily the person. and God forgives regardless of our sins :D

[A.J.]

I think its stupid, ive read the bible and i didnt see anything about being gay as a sin. Politicians are fools and liars. Even animals can be gay. It's not like people choose to be gay it's like saying i chose to be white. I think gays have the right to marry as much as straight people.

[LateForTheSky]

Because at the end of the day it all comes down to religion. Christianity believes homosexuality is wrong, so thats why marraige is banned in some places. Like Ireland is a Catholic country and we used to be very religious. Because up until 1992 being gay was technically illegal. Although it was not enforced, what was enforced was up until about 1997, no media could portray being gay as something that is good or acceptable.

So I put it all down to religion.

I think blaming it all on religion is wrong and from what i've read gays are not hated by god but more by priests and so called religous people. To me its down to people who feel uncomfortable with change. And also most name calling is down to people trying to increase their social status and well being gay is a big divide, also like religion and raise. thats why we have racism and sactarionism and homophopia

[wa3d]

Melchi0r
i'm from tunisia arabic country and its legal to be gay but its illegal to married with another gay my mom cozin is gay and he live with his bf and they have 2 kids

[Frosty]

I don't want this to sound condescending, but what kind of positive aspects are there in homosexuality? If you have read anything about me or my posts on this issue, you'll understand why I don't mean for this to sound confrontational.

exact same positive aspects as being straight :yes:

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I just have a question that no one can really seem to answer. Why is it so BAD if two men want to get married? I mean, its different, so what? So, african american people are a minority in the US, so why is it better to discrimenate against gays then to the african american population? Where did all of this start?

Now lets get this straight. Gay "MARRAIGE" should not be legal. because marraige is a religious thing, and christianity says marraige is between a man and a woman. So, therefore, gays shouldnt be allowed to "marry". They can still have a civil union, and get the same benefits married couples do, but gays getting "married" is an insult to Christianity.

[Sage]

exact same positive aspects as being straight :yes:

Such as...?

[Serenity]

Now lets get this straight. Gay "MARRAIGE" should not be legal. because marraige is a religious thing, and christianity says marraige is between a man and a woman. So, therefore, gays shouldnt be allowed to "marry". They can still have a civil union, and get the same benefits married couples do, but gays getting "married" is an insult to Christianity.

Ok.

a) This topic is about homosexuality, not religion. So your argument is pretty negligible because everyone in the world isn't a Christian.

b) If marriage is a "religious thing," then how do athiests get married? And if it was a "religious thing" I will say again, religion does NOT mean Christianity as so many people seem to think.

c) Again, it doesn't matter to the rest of the world what insults Christianity. If your mother shows any skin besides her hands and that around her eyes, it's an insult to Islam. So should EVERYONE else adopt Muslim customs? I didn't think so.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Ok.

a) This topic is about homosexuality, not religion. So your argument is pretty negligible because everyone in the world isn't a Christian.

b) If marriage is a "religious thing," then how do athiests get married? And if it was a "religious thing" I will say again, religion does NOT mean Christianity as so many people seem to think.

c) Again, it doesn't matter to the rest of the world what insults Christianity. If your mother shows any skin besides her hands and that around her eyes, it's an insult to Islam. So should EVERYONE else adopt Muslim customs? I didn't think so.

Marriage is a religious product though. Therefore, you cant talk about gay marriage without bringing up christianity. And i believe that athiests get married with a simplified version of the ceremony, without the bible, etc. And i know religion does not mean christianity. Finally. it doesnt really matter what the rest of the world thinks about christianity, because this is a matter of gay marriage in the US.

[Serenity]

Marriage is a religious product though. Therefore, you cant talk about gay marriage without bringing up christianity.

Indeed I can. A man and a man love each other and want to be married. A woman and a woman love each other and want to be married. There is no religion there and there doesn't have to be- it is constantly forced into this discussion because there are so many narrow-minded people who believe that religion HAS to be a part of it just because it's their personal belief.

Finally. it doesnt really matter what the rest of the world thinks about christianity, because this is a matter of gay marriage in the US.

What and Christianity is the one sole religion in America? People only believe in Christianity here, is that what you're saying?

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Indeed I can. A man and a man love each other and want to be married. A woman and a woman love each other and want to be married. There is no religion there and there doesn't have to be- it is constantly forced into this discussion because there are so many narrow-minded people who believe that religion HAS to be a part of it just because it's their personal belief.



What and Christianity is the one sole religion in America? People only believe in Christianity here, is that what you're saying?

1st off, Marriage was invented By christianity. A priest presides over the ceremony. Marriage is a part of christianity.
Christianity is the majority religion in the US. The US is a Christian country, opposed to a Buddhist one, or a Jewish one, or an Islamic one.

[what the?]

Personally, the whole gay marriage doesn't really bother me, because I don't really feel that marriage is always necessary. Let's look at the reasons behind people getting married. Firstly, to gain legal protection were the couple to separate. Well if that's the case, a civil partnership does perfectly well. Secondly, if they're Christian, marriage legitimises sexual relations, so they can have kids. In this case, gay couples can't conceive lol, so it makes no difference whether they're married or not. I'd go on, but it makes no difference to me anyway. In my personal opinion, the only thing that matters in a relationship, is whether both partners are in love, are faithful and committed, and that they are in a happy, healthy and rewarding relationship, not whether they're married or not.

[Maverick]

You realize that throughout history traditions never stay the same and that marriage nowadays have very little to do with religion now? Marriage's main focus is on love and commitment not religion.

[LateForTheSky]

Religion has messed up gay peoples lifes real bad, I seriously doubt goddisaproves of gays and this is my reason. Being gay was unacceptible for so long and only just recently is it being accepted. Therefore in the time of books being written, (BIBLE, Tora etc) it was a hangible offence. The bible so instance wasnt written by jesus, it was written by the scriptors. They probably hated gays at that time. Thankfuly peoples morals are changing, So if heven exists. I think every good gay person will get in.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Bravo! well said.

[Serenity]

You realize that throughout history traditions never stay the same and that marriage nowadays have very little to do with religion now? Marriage's main focus is on love and commitment not religion.

For example: Christmas. A holiday originally celebrating the birth of Jesus which we're now allowed to celebrate in public facilities because it is no longer considered by law to be a religious holiday.

[byee]

Well, things that people don't understand or are afraid of have historically been stigmatized, outlawed, banned. Or slaughtered. Sadly, there are too many historical references to injustice against others who are 'different' in some way. Sadly, there's a sense of self righteousness woven thru history of those who feel perfectly entitled to impose their unique interpretation of how reality should be on the rest of us, without taking into consideration that they are not the final authority on such matters. Likewise, these misguided individuals fail to take into consideration the simple reality that we are who we are, and that for the most part, the things that have historically caused the most prejudice are completely out of the control of the individual. No one 'chooses' to be gay in much the same way that no one chooses to be straight, or male or female, or black or white. We are who we are.

In our own personal lives we can strive to be open minded and fair with everyone we encounter, regardless of who (or what) it is we're encountering. Change starts within ourselves.

Until the time comes that we as humanity truly live up to our Ideals, pity those small minded folk who feel it 'proper' to exclude anyone.

[Frosty]

it didnt sound condescending at all. it just pretty much sounds like you're an idiot.
there may be no positive aspects in your, or anyone elses closed mind.
what if the situation were switched. what if the dominant people on this earth were homosexual and were discriminating against gays?

i agree with you here, but in your analogy do you mean homosexual discriminating against straight people?

[heartagram72]

u dont get it do u.
america is not free. bush is just a dic that says this so ppl like him more. pot would be legalized and controlled medically if we were free.
"free country" is propganda, to turn bush into a dictator. he says free country so ppl just wont know he is trying to be a dictator.
hes something for u to think about. dic dictator DICtator DIC=bush

honestly tho...about religion.
gayness is not one of the unforgivable sins
those were denying god and jesus and stuff. so basically its just considered a sin. but so is like everything else. as long as u accept jesus into ur life and pray regularly, god says u get into heaven. unless u did an unforgiveable sin

god made us all diferently to. he couldve chosen to make gay and bi and lesbian never exist. but he did, and he made some people gay and bi and lesbian.

[Maverick]

Ummmmm since when is President Bush the only person of power? We do have a Congress full of hundreds of representatives and a hundred senators who have power in addition to the judicial branch. :confused:

Seriously learn about the government before you make outrageous claims like that. Congress holds more power than the President so I can't seem to grasp the concept of Bush being a dictator. We are far from that.

[Some Guy]

God made a man for a woman and a woman for a man.

[redcar]

Thats true, but God also didn't give us wings, but yet we fly all over the world. God works in mysterious ways.

[Underground_Network]

God made pickles. Thus a man can love a man, a woman can love a woman, and a cat can love a dog.

Lmfao... But seriously, I don't care whether someone is gay or not, gay people have rights, they're only human. Why do we treat people as lesser beings. I thought all men were created equal? (That goes for women too :P)

[LateForTheSky]

As ive said before its all about being isecure with themselves no gay person that takes the piss out of a straight person is secure with themselves gays as perceived as more easy going because the ones we know who are gay are not insecure with themselves or they wouldnt have came out, But there a lot of gays who are in the closet making it hard for other gays trying to convince others sometimes even themselves that they are straight.

All because nobody talks,
It's all politics over who gets what,
It may cause them to reach their final destination but it may be to late for the sky.

If u can get ur head round that lyric of mine then u must beable to see into my sub-conscience lol

[Hyper]

For example: Christmas. A holiday originally celebrating the birth of Jesus which we're now allowed to celebrate in public facilities because it is no longer considered by law to be a religious holiday.

The only reason that ever happened was because its a great commercial oppurtunity.. And are you telling me its illegal in the US to celebrate ''religious'' holidays publicly?

u dont get it do u.
america is not free. bush is just a dic that says this so ppl like him more. pot would be legalized and controlled medically if we were free.
"free country" is propganda, to turn bush into a dictator. he says free country so ppl just wont know he is trying to be a dictator.
hes something for u to think about. dic dictator DICtator DIC=bush

honestly tho...about religion.
gayness is not one of the unforgivable sins
those were denying god and jesus and stuff. so basically its just considered a sin. but so is like everything else. as long as u accept jesus into ur life and pray regularly, god says u get into heaven. unless u did an unforgiveable sin

god made us all diferently to. he couldve chosen to make gay and bi and lesbian never exist. but he did, and he made some people gay and bi and lesbian.

Bush has nothing to do with gay marriage..
Ummmmm since when is President Bush the only person of power? We do have a Congress full of hundreds of representatives and a hundred senators who have power in addition to the judicial branch. :confused:

Seriously learn about the government before you make outrageous claims like that. Congress holds more power than the President so I can't seem to grasp the concept of Bush being a dictator. We are far from that.

The congress does what their financers want them to do.
As ive said before its all about being isecure with themselves no gay person that takes the piss out of a straight person is secure with themselves gays as perceived as more easy going because the ones we know who are gay are not insecure with themselves or they wouldnt have came out, But there a lot of gays who are in the closet making it hard for other gays trying to convince others sometimes even themselves that they are straight.

All because nobody talks,
It's all politics over who gets what,
It may cause them to reach their final destination but it may be to late for the sky.

If u can get ur head round that lyric of mine then u must beable to see into my sub-conscience lol

So the way I get your post is.. That gay people are ''allegedly'' more outgoing because their secure with themselves?

And that the reason people try to hide the fact that their gay and convince themselves that, is because nobody talks about it???

[LateForTheSky]

-HYPAR- Yeah basically I am talkin about the gay guys that are out are the ones that are out going

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Honestly what's the point anyway?!?!?!??!?!?!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!

Marriage is a religious ceremony. Don't they have the right to not marry someone if it goes COMPLETELY against their beliefs! Marriage is Christian, Muslim, Hindi, etc. If there's a religion that allows this, then GET MARRIED THERE! Just don't try to force Christians to have their values changed against their will.

Besides, why do they want to get married anyway? How does that make there relationship more special if they have to go to all the trouble for this anyway?

And finally: why DO they want to get married?!?! Ah, screw it. Let them get married; let them be as miserable as the rest of us! :D

[Underground_Network]

As long as this doesn't lead to another revolution. Gays will slowly gain respect, blacks managed it, as long as they're backed by people high up in the gov't., or at least those who are somewhat wealthy, they will eventually be recognized by society as basically normal people. Bias still circulates throughout the world, and gays, just like blacks, muslims, etc. will always be prejudged, but its a part of society that will always be there, no matter what. Again, ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, don't gays fall under that too?

[Maverick]

Teen Sexuality -> Ramblings of the Wise

[Sugaree]

Because at the end of the day it all comes down to religion. Christianity believes homosexuality is wrong, so thats why marraige is banned in some places. Like Ireland is a Catholic country and we used to be very religious. Because up until 1992 being gay was technically illegal. Although it was not enforced, what was enforced was up until about 1997, no media could portray being gay as something that is good or acceptable.

So I put it all down to religion.

Ok man you crossed the line. Now yes I am a Christian but don't blame me for saying that two men that want to get married is wrong. I think that it is completly fine. But on the other hand people think that it's wrong for their resons. Just don't blame Christians for shit we didn't do!

[Prince Jellyfish]

There's nothing wrong with filing joint tax returns; seriously, just let them get married.

[Serenity]

Just don't blame Christians for shit we didn't do!

I admit that the generalization of Christianity obviously includes people that had nothing to do with the discrimination of homosexuals, but I also know that very much of the discrimination we're all working against was cause by religious people, especially Christians, who were acting on their beliefs. Granted, many of them took it too far, but basically what I'm saying is you shouldn't take so much offense in the statement "I put it all down to religion" because it definitely has a lot of support behind it.

The way I see it is there are two overall groups of people who discriminate against homosexuals: Religious Groups, and Homophobes in general. So yeah, religion undoubtedly had/has very much to do with all these ideas that being gay/bi is wrong or should be illegal.

[Sugaree]

I admit that the generalization of Christianity obviously includes people that had nothing to do with the discrimination of homosexuals, but I also know that very much of the discrimination we're all working against was cause by religious people, especially Christians, who were acting on their beliefs. Granted, many of them took it too far, but basically what I'm saying is you shouldn't take so much offense in the statement "I put it all down to religion" because it definitely has a lot of support behind it.

The way I see it is there are two overall groups of people who discriminate against homosexuals: Religious Groups, and Homophobes in general. So yeah, religion undoubtedly had/has very much to do with all these ideas that being gay/bi is wrong or should be illegal.
Now I'm taking not that much offense but I'm just saying not to blame Catholics for what we didn't do

[Serenity]

I'm just saying not to blame Catholics for what we didn't do

And what exactly did the catholics not do?

[Sugaree]

And what exactly did the catholics not do?

Well I'm just saying not to blame us. People blame us all the time saying that we outlaw everything and we want the world to be like us. Now I'm not saying for people to convert if they don't want to. I'm not one of those people that says "I want to tell you about Jesus." I'm not that kind of guy. Just let them get married why should I care about two men or ladies getting married? I don't think it's wrong. You fall in love with who you fall in love with no1 can change that about you.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Ah well. Same sex marriage is legal here in Canada... so if you're gay, move here why dontcha, eh? :D

[Serenity]

Well I'm just saying not to blame us. People blame us all the time saying that we outlaw everything and we want the world to be like us. Now I'm not saying for people to convert if they don't want to. I'm not one of those people that says "I want to tell you about Jesus." I'm not that kind of guy. Just let them get married why should I care about two men or ladies getting married? I don't think it's wrong. You fall in love with who you fall in love with no1 can change that about you.

No one's blaming Catholicism solely for all the prejudice in the world- and if they are, they're obviously horrendously wrong. A lot of religious people have caused a very large portion of the prejudice towards gay people, but in no way was it entirely due to Catholicism.

[Sugaree]

Well still. You know I'm getting sick and tired of ppl thinking that Christians are the ones who screw it all up. But your right man. Alot of ppl do that.

[Camazotz]

I just have a question that no one can really seem to answer. Why is it so BAD if two men want to get married? I mean, its different, so what? So, african american people are a minority in the US, so why is it better to discrimenate against gays then to the african american population? Where did all of this start?

1. Marrying is a sacred ritual between a MAN and a WOMAN. Not too many people like it when a man marries a man or a woman marrying a woman. I have no problem with gay people, but marriage is kind of not okay.(to me)

2. "So, african american people are a minority in the US, so why is it better to discrimenate against gays then to the african american population? Where did all of this start?"

I dont get what youre saying...

[Maverick]

1. Marrying is a sacred ritual between a MAN and a WOMAN. Not too many people like it when a man marries a man or a woman marrying a woman. I have no problem with gay people, but marriage is kind of not okay.(to me)
Is the 50% divorce rate sacred too? :rolleyes:

[Prince Jellyfish]

Is the 50% divorce rate sacred too? :rolleyes:

OH! BUUUUUUUURN!

*ahem*
Anyway, fifty or so years from now people are going to talk about these people denying gays their civil rights the same way we talk about racists from the 1950's.:yeah:

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I agree with above post:D

[Prince Jellyfish]

I agree with the above post.:lol:

[serial-thrilla]

OH! BUUUUUUUURN!

*ahem*
Anyway, fifty or so years from now people are going to talk about these people denying gays their civil rights the same way we talk about racists from the 1950's.:yeah: i dont agree with that necessarily. maybe people will be a little more accepting but not to the extent that african americans are accepted today.

[Sugaree]

Is the 50% divorce rate sacred too? :rolleyes:

Oh wow Anthony just hit you hard! BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN OUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTT!!!

[Whisper]

okay guys rubbing it in like that isnt providing anything constructive to the thread

I'm proud to say gay marriage is legal in Canada

[LateForTheSky]

i dont agree with that necessarily. maybe people will be a little more accepting but not to the extent that african americans are accepted today.

Well that's optimistic. I don't see whyn not, if all of us gays get of our arse and do something then maybe we will get somewhere. The reason it took so long with african americans is becuase they were slaves. It took them long enough to get out of that nevermind be accepted in society. That racism only started first time white man seen black. Gay people have been around since the dawn of time. I think there could be a change in the winds of who gets to say what.


I know theres probably no punctuation in the paragraph above but it was rushed :D

[Maverick]

I am closing this thread as well. Three threads on homosexuality are too much and this is one of the oldest from the 3.