Anyone else play WoW?

[sammy1996]

Just wondering who on VT plays WoW and what kind of characters you play, also how much time you spend on it roughly?

I play for a few hours a week, not much now though. mainly play my fire mage and also my rogue.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightbringer/Samanthia/simple

Just as an afterthought for those of you who dont play is it just not your kind of game or do you follow the general kind of stereotype all WoW gamers are saddos or whatever?
For some reason WoW has a really bad reputation for its fanbase, any comments?

[Truth]

I can't stand games like WoW, where you click the same little monster 500,000 times to level up once. Ever heard of flyff? It was nearly 10 hours of clicking per level, and I was still only half way to cap...

I prefer things that require skill, strategy, etc...

[Emiil]

I can't stand games like WoW, where you click the same little monster 500,000 times to level up once. Ever heard of flyff? It was nearly 10 hours of clicking per level, and I was still only half way to cap...

I prefer things that require skill, strategy, etc...
lol you've obviously never played in a WoW raid

[Totality]

WoW :P - No Pun Intended.

I have several characters, all eu, all Alliance.

Celisuis - Level 85 Death Knight
Tupiel - Level 85 Mage
Líssira - Level 82 Priest
Lokneir - Level 62 Rogue

Various other bank alts, low-levels etc.

All in all - I have around 80K Gold spread across characters.

[sammy1996]

I can't stand games like WoW, where you click the same little monster 500,000 times to level up once. Ever heard of flyff? It was nearly 10 hours of clicking per level, and I was still only half way to cap...

I prefer things that require skill, strategy, etc...

From this im guessing you've never played at all or played at level cap. it does require skill and strategy, you dont just mash the keyboard :P

[Rayquaza]

I don't play WoW. I used to play Runescape about 2 years ago but that was the end of all my MMORPG cravings.

[Truth]

lol you've obviously never played in a WoW raid I've seen WoW raids. Getting a team of people and pressing a few buttons is far from skill.

Try StarCraft 2, the koreans who can click over 600 characters per minute are pros.

From this im guessing you've never played at all or played at level cap. it does require skill and strategy, you dont just mash the keyboard :P It is clicking a few hotkeys over and over, bad graphics, horrible storyline, a time-waster, and $10/month.

Not to mention, I prefer not wasting my entire life on a game like WoW. I've seen so many of my friends gain a bunch of weight, stop socializing, lose their jobs, lower their grades, etc... just from playing WoW too much, I prefer being one of the developers for that game who gets all the money. ;)

[Syvelocin]

Right now, I'm not really into it so I only play what I have to, the six hours a week I raid. I got the MoP beta though. I haven't bothered yet. :P

Soilé is my main, resto druid. I just hit a 400 ilvl last week. I have this urge to pug something just so I can say 400 resto druid lfg lol. But I'm always locked to DS so -_-
Lesetta's my prot pally
and Syvä's my unholy dk.

All 85 that is. Alliance FTW.

I've got various alts that I level when I'm bored. 60-something rogue, 50-something mage, 40-something hunter.

I've seen WoW raids. Getting a team of people and pressing a few buttons is far from skill.


Uhh. Hah. No. Maybe WoW three years ago was like that.

I'm part of a 10-man raiding group that's at 7/7 reg DS and 3/7 heroic and nowadays it's so much more than that. You have to be doing dozens of things at once, and you have to be on top of each one. Boss mechanics have gotten three times as complicated than even ICC in Wrath, let alone vanilla and BC raiding that's just a complete joke. Almost all old raids are simpler than the heroic 5-mans (though HoT was incredibly easy compared to Zandalari's when they first came out...) alone in cata. You really need to know what you're doing or you'll get burned. Know the boss strats to a T, know your character (and that means a lot of fucking researching, respeccing, practicing, reforging, whatever it takes to be the best your character can be and be able to play your character blindfolded). It's extensive. Not to mention, through staying out of this aoe damage, running to this part of the room at this time, casting this spell, killing this thing only till 75% because anything further will aoe the fuck out of your group, then moving to the other thing, kill that, then this thing, you also have to be able to do your rotation without flaws at the same time. And when you are on top of your game, others won't be. It's either you screwing shit up or someone else until you're able to down it no problem ten times in a row. It's a constant fight. First you have to make sure every single fucking person is doing what they should be, when they should be. Assuming it is possible to down the bosses with your raid composition. Then you have to tweak things. Switch in this player for that player, this healer does better with that type of healer in this encounter. We're taking too much damage, we need shadow priest to go holy. Oh, three healers is too much, we're hitting the enrage timer. It's just a pain in the arse.

I have to work diligently to make myself a better player. And I only play when I have to raid nowadays, imagine what it'd be like if I dedicated all my free time to the game. You can't even do these raids with a plain version of the game. No serious raiding guild will take a second look at you if you don't have at least Deadly Boss Mods. Healers just can't go without Healbot or something else. You can't physically pump out enough healing quick enough in cata without it. Not to mention stuff like Omen, Recount, and then the nice little extras you can live without but put you at a serious disadvantage.

Once you get it down, it's cake. Firelands is a huge joke and we can do a straight run of DS without as much as a single death. But it's nothing easy before you get there.

[Angel Androgynous]

I have a level 58 or something undead rogue named gothicnight. I quit about a year ago. I had her when I was twelve and had mining and skinning. (Brought in a lot of gold, by the way.) Foar deh Hoard. Also, the troll females are strangely pretty. Oh and my sister is still a huge gamer. (On WoW) She raids with her guild so much. She's a warlock blood elf.

[Truth]

Right now, I'm not really into it so I only play what I have to, the six hours a week I raid. I got the MoP beta though. I haven't bothered yet. :P

Soilé is my main, resto druid. I just hit a 400 ilvl last week. I have this urge to pug something just so I can say 400 resto druid lfg lol. But I'm always locked to DS so -_-
Lesetta's my prot pally
and Syvä's my dk.

All 85 that is.

I've got various alts that I level when I'm bored. 60-something rogue, 50-something mage, 40-something hunter.





Uhh. Hah. No. Maybe WoW three years ago was like that.

I'm part of a 10-man raiding group that's at 7/7 reg DS and 3/7 heroic and nowadays it's so much more than that. You have to be doing dozens of things at once, and you have to be on top of each one. Boss mechanics have gotten three times as complicated than even ICC in Wrath, let alone vanilla and BC raiding. Almost all old raids are simpler than the heroic 5-mans (though HoT was incredibly easy compared to Zandalari's when they first came out...) alone in cata. You really need to know what you're doing or you'll get burned. It's extensive. Not to mention, through staying out of this aoe damage, running to this part of the room at this time, casting this spell, killing this thing only till 75% because anything further will aoe the fuck out of your group, then moving to the other thing, kill that, then this thing, you also have to be able to do your rotation without flaws at the same time. And when you are on top of your game, others won't be. It's either you screwing shit up or someone else until you're able to down it no problem ten times in a row.

I have to work diligently to make myself a better player. You can't even do these raids with a plain version of the game. No serious raiding guild will take a second look at you if you don't have at least Deadly Boss Mods. Healers just can't go without Healbot or something else. You can't physically pump out enough healing quick enough in cata without it. Not to mention stuff like Omen, Recount, and then the nice little extras you can live without.

Once you get it down, it's cake. Firelands is a huge joke and we can do a straight run of DS without as much as a single death. But it's nothing easy before you get there. So as I just said, you need to spend at least $100 then $10 more per month just to be considered to run around and press a bunch of buttons.

I've played games since 1990's, and WoW takes absolutely no effort compared to many console games, and can't even compare to some other MMO's.

I just watched a video.. all you do is attack with the dps characters, heal with the healing characters, and kill the boss. Show me this raid that takes all of this effort?

[Syvelocin]

I just watched a video.. all you do is attack with the dps characters, heal with the healing characters, and kill the boss. Show me this raid that takes all of this effort?

You say attack and heal as if you can just click buttons willy nilly. You don't do 30k dps clicking any button you'd like or 50k hps spamming 5.5k mana cost regrowth. You have to know when it is appropriate to use an ability to maximize your dps, mana, time, etc. And you have to be able to instantly make that judgement.

What MMO following a similar format is there that doesn't contain attack with the dps, heal with the healers, and kill the boss? All most computer games are is clicking? You could say that about any game.

cGn2EHZAjSg

Make an 85 on a trial account, pug a raid, kill that and record it on fraps and then I'll say you're right.

[Truth]

You say attack and heal as if you can just click buttons willy nilly. You don't do 30k dps clicking any button you'd like or 50k hps spamming 5.5k mana cost regrowth. You have to know when it is appropriate to use an ability to maximize your dps, mana, time, etc. And you have to be able to instantly make that judgement.

What MMO following a similar format is there that doesn't contain attack with the dps, heal with the healers, and kill the boss? All most computer games are is clicking? You could say that about any game.

cGn2EHZAjSg

Make an 85 on a trial account, pug a raid, kill that and record it on fraps and then I'll say you're right. Oh, so you mean you need to use logic and a little bit of brain power when pressing the buttons? Big deal, you need to think where to put the block in Tetris too. That video includes nothing extra-ordinary, it's the same game as Flyff. :yeah:

I would never waste my time on a 10 year old game.
For example, TERA Online, is a new MMO that is literally just a graphics, storyline, and game mechanics upgrade of WoW.

[Syvelocin]

I would never waste my time on a 10 year old game.


Wow. Just... wow. Really? You take that into consideration? I still play games that are 17 years old because they're good games. And you boasted about playing games since the 90s as if you were some enthusiast?

Oh, and by the way, WoW is 7 years old.

[sammy1996]

So as I just said, you need to spend at least $100 then $10 more per month just to be considered to run around and press a bunch of buttons.

I've played games since 1990's, and WoW takes absolutely no effort compared to many console games, and can't even compare to some other MMO's.

I just watched a video.. all you do is attack with the dps characters, heal with the healing characters, and kill the boss. Show me this raid that takes all of this effort?

Ok before this post i could see your point, now... thats just stupid. your last post just shows how ignorant you are. you say it takes no effort but earlier you said people spend or their time on it (which only few do) so surely thats alot of effort? and yes while it doesnt require as much skill as something like SC2 where people have like 300APM it still requires alot of skill, effort and knowledge. just because wow is old doesnt mean it is bad, over the years much has changed and while it might not be at the top of technological advancements its not a bad looking game assuming you have a good enough computer to run ultra graphics.

And as for console games? i play them too but how can you even dare say they require effort? console games are so casual and child friendly they require litterally no skill, you can play games like Call Of Duty on low difficulty and walk throught it playing with one hand without dying, even on hardest difficulty most console games are still easily do-able.

What games on console require so much more effort than WoW can demand??

[sammy1996]

Oh, so you mean you need to use logic and a little bit of brain power when pressing the buttons? Big deal, you need to think where to put the block in Tetris too. That video includes nothing extra-ordinary, it's the same game as Flyff. :yeah:

I would never waste my time on a 10 year old game.
For example, TERA Online, is a new MMO that is literally just a graphics, storyline, and game mechanics upgrade of WoW.
Whenever someone hates on something they always try and simplifying it to the shallowest form, saying all your doing is pressing buttons and hot keys is like saying all Usain Bolt does is move his legs. while fundamentally yes that is all it is, anyone with a open mind can see it is a LOT more than that.

If i gave you a 410 geared tank i would bet my life you couldn't walk into madness of Deathwing HC and kill him, HC raid encounters now require so much in depth knowledge of everything.

No need to hate on the game if you don't like it then don't like it but don't try and hate on it when your so very wrong. why cant people like you just say "I don't like" instead you have to go on some rant trying to act as if it is a stupid product that requires no skill with absolutely no proof, evidence or anything to back up your opinion.
i just wish people could appreciate things even if they don't like it. you don't have to like it to see its brilliance and skill requirements.

[Emiil]

I've seen WoW raids. Getting a team of people and pressing a few buttons is far from skill.

Try StarCraft 2, the koreans who can click over 600 characters per minute are pros.

It is clicking a few hotkeys over and over, bad graphics, horrible storyline, a time-waster, and $10/month.

Not to mention, I prefer not wasting my entire life on a game like WoW. I've seen so many of my friends gain a bunch of weight, stop socializing, lose their jobs, lower their grades, etc... just from playing WoW too much, I prefer being one of the developers for that game who gets all the money. ;)

Sorry but are you stupid or something? :what:

[Truth]

Ok before this post i could see your point, now... thats just stupid. your last post just shows how ignorant you are. you say it takes no effort but earlier you said people spend or their time on it (which only few do) so surely thats alot of effort? and yes while it doesnt require as much skill as something like SC2 where people have like 300APM it still requires alot of skill, effort and knowledge. just because wow is old doesnt mean it is bad, over the years much has changed and while it might not be at the top of technological advancements its not a bad looking game assuming you have a good enough computer to run ultra graphics.

And as for console games? i play them too but how can you even dare say they require effort? console games are so casual and child friendly they require litterally no skill, you can play games like Call Of Duty on low difficulty and walk throught it playing with one hand without dying, even on hardest difficulty most console games are still easily do-able.

What games on console require so much more effort than WoW can demand?? Trust me when I tell you WoW has some of the worst graphics out there, compared to almost any MMO or Console game. Now I'm not going to judge it on that, because of how old it is.

But you're legitimately telling me that console games are "easy"? Have you ever even played BattleToads? I've never met a person my entire life who beat that game alone, not to mention the other 300+ challenging console games. WoW is one of the simplest concepts of gaming, and it's been around for years. Click to kill, use hotkeys for skills and healing items, fight bosses in a team, choose your race and class, etc... and it just is not challenging in any sense.

Whenever someone hates on something they always try and simplifying it to the shallowest form, saying all your doing is pressing buttons and hot keys is like saying all Usain Bolt does is move his legs. while fundamentally yes that is all it is, anyone with a open mind can see it is a LOT more than that.

If i gave you a 410 geared tank i would bet my life you couldn't walk into madness of Deathwing HC and kill him, HC raid encounters now require so much in depth knowledge of everything.

No need to hate on the game if you don't like it then don't like it but don't try and hate on it when your so very wrong. why cant people like you just say "I don't like" instead you have to go on some rant trying to act as if it is a stupid product that requires no skill with absolutely no proof, evidence or anything to back up your opinion.
i just wish people could appreciate things even if they don't like it. you don't have to like it to see its brilliance and skill requirements. No, Usain Bolt practiced for many years to increase his skill at running and has the long legs to back up the skill. That's a lot different than clicking a few buttons on WoW, which absolutely anyone can do (the reason I say this, is because almost everyone I met on wow was 12-14 years old)

I absolutely guarantee you I could kill the boss after re-analysing the GUI and interface. Hell, I could look up a guide on google that would tell me every single thing I need to do, and I'd be able to do it because of how little skill it takes to do those actions.

Now that doesn't apply to every game. In Tales of Innocence I could read "how" to fight the bosses, but it's irrelevant once I'm in the game and the scenario changes and I need to use a different strategy.

I'm also not going on a rant, I'm simply telling you: Stop wasting your life on WoW when there is games like TERA being released for half the price.

[sammy1996]

Trust me when I tell you WoW has some of the worst graphics out there, compared to almost any MMO or Console game. Now I'm not going to judge it on that, because of how old it is.

No, Usain Bolt practiced for many years to increase his skill at running and has the long legs to back up the skill.

You just have compared them by saying that so don't act like you wont.
And people practice at WoW, you don't just go on and be good at it, it requires skill no matter what you think because ultimately you haven't played it to base any of your judgments on

[Syvelocin]

Well, now that's out of the way...

I'm curious, if there are any other raiders or just people who like to customize their interface, what does your interface look like? (screenshots would be lovely) I'm so obsessive compulsive that I pick at mine all the time. :P I'll show you what mine looks like in a bit when we do DS so you see it in it's full form.

[Sordid Saint]

I used to be very into that game, was an officer in the top raiding guild on my server, and was one of the best geared players on the realm. Then I stopped playing lol.

Since then, the guild has gone down to the third ranked guild on the realm, and I hate to sound cocky or anything but it's because I stopped playing and I was the main tank for all of the raids, and they spent time finding and gearing another tank that was good enough and fit the right time schedule.

http://www.guildox.com/go/g.asp?n=Alter+Ego&r=Blade's+Edge-US that be the link to what the guild is now.

It's funny because my dad is their best hunter and he is so addicted to that game it isn't even funny lol. He works, plays WoW, and sleeps xD.

Also about the button mashing thing, that's PvP ;). Raiding you have to be very organized, and know your toon very well in order to do fights on heroic, which is the funnest way to play :P. The best raiders will spend lots of time researching their toon and getting to know the feel of the rotations and stuff, and I don't know how much the game has changed since I stopped playing, but the raids can get pretty difficult. Burning Crusade was my favorite though ;)


Well, now that's out of the way...

I'm curious, if there are any other raiders or just people who like to customize their interface, what does your interface look like? (screenshots would be lovely) I'm so obsessive compulsive that I pick at mine all the time. :P I'll show you what mine looks like in a bit when we do DS so you see it in it's full form.

You seem like a very experienced raider :P it would be cool to hear about your toons and guild and stuff :P

here's a pic of my UI the last time that I played which was when LFR first came out, I think the first day actually :P


http://i.imgur.com/lcKQH.jpg


Yeah I know it's real simple because most of my addons are out of date. When I was raiding all the time though it looked real organized and pretty :P. But also, I hate that addon bartender. I really like the feel of the actionbars how they are because I played with minimal clicking, mostly all hotkeys unless I needed to hit things really quickly and the mouse was easier.

[sammy1996]

Well, now that's out of the way...

I'm curious, if there are any other raiders or just people who like to customize their interface, what does your interface look like? (screenshots would be lovely) I'm so obsessive compulsive that I pick at mine all the time. :P I'll show you what mine looks like in a bit when we do DS so you see it in it's full form.

Here's my UI. If you're wondering the bit in the middle is just an addon that shows me what DoTs i have up :) In raids DBM and everything is on too, just thought i'd post this for now.
Just noticed Dps on recount shows 12k.... i was trying to get a pic of my addons, i'm not that bad i get 25k really ;P

[Syvelocin]

You seem like a very experienced raider :P it would be cool to hear about your toons and guild and stuff :P


You're probably more experienced lol. I started raiding in Wrath because my dad's guild was short a dps. My dad's played since the original beta though and quit early in cata even before he was in 346 gear, to play EVE online. :P

I'm part of a guild called Benevolent (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/hyjal/Benevolent/) on Hyjal. We have a couple teams, but I'm part of an independent 10-man group. We're classifed as casuals in the guild but right now we're hoping that if we surpass the progression of the 25-man we can get the raider rank benefits (we're 3/8 H DS and they're 5/8 H DS). Or at least a Casual-Raider rank! We don't get guild repairs you see. :/

Our main team consists of a destro lock, shadow priest, boomie (best boomie ever), fire mage, ele shammy, assass rogue, and arms warrior as dps, prot warrior as main tank and prot pally as off, and it's me and the resto shammy on heals. The arms warrior is off tank when we need him to be (and before we found the pally) and we usually run the shadow priest as holy when we need a third healer (we also use the boomie/the ele shammy as well for H Morchok). It's a really tight-knit group that I love. I had been searching for a guild, found a big guild that wanted me, but then I ran a trial run with these guys and knew from the start that I wanted to join them.

Yeah I know it's real simple because most of my addons are out of date. When I was raiding all the time though it looked real organized and pretty :P. But also, I hate that addon bartender. I really like the feel of the actionbars how they are because I played with minimal clicking, mostly all hotkeys unless I needed to hit things really quickly and the mouse was easier.

I don't have a lot of practice with dps but yeah, on my dps toons I do like the hotkeys. I happen to love bartender just so I can disable the bars I don't want and add new ones where I do want them. Healing though, I just have most of the bars off my screen except for two that I use for dps spells in case and my CDs. (health stone, tranq, tree, rez, etc.) and bars for pots and such. I like the original look of the game enough that I don't want to install one big custom raid interface but I like having a lot of freedom with it.

I actually forgot to screenie mine last night so I'll try to remember tonight. But I use DBM, recount, and omen of course, and then bartender, healbot, sexycooldown, and power auras (I just like having both visuals) :P

EDIT:
http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa330/syvelocin/WoWScrnShot_041712_001102.jpg

I got distracted trying to take the screenshot but I usually do 50k including the buff on H Ultraxion. :P That and my healbot got screwed up.

[Unknown-Data]

I got a death knight "demonshinobi" on kil'jeadan in us he is alliance

[jackthelaf]

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[Zephyx]

I currently have a few 85's on 'Emerald Dream' EU and do DS 8/8 pugs most weeks, would be nice to real ID and group for some HoT's or something, sometime? pm me if you want :)

I'm also looking to level a horde char, if anyone wants to level one with me? i hate levelling alone haha, bores me to hell :D

[VirtualGuy012]

I can't stand games like WoW, where you click the same little monster 500,000 times to level up once. Ever heard of flyff? It was nearly 10 hours of clicking per level, and I was still only half way to cap...

I prefer things that require skill, strategy, etc...

Someone never went into a raid, but yes I've played.mhad an 85 hunter and priest who was my main, and then I quit