MICHEL JACKSON NOT GUILTY!!!!

[nwshc]

I CAN'T BELEIVE THIS!! i WANT TO KILL ALL OF THOSE JURERS. This is so fucking retarded. How was he not found guilty of fucking that kid? And how could he be not guilty of him giving the kid alcohol? THE KID CALLED THE WINE JESUS JUICE! there is no way that the kid could have known that if he want there. IM SO PISSED!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

you know what i find pathetic is that douchebag needs a fucking umbrealla to protect him from the sun on the walk from the courthouse to his car. absolutely fucking pathetic i hope he gets murdered

[WakeUp]

whats wrog with giving a kid a bit of wine? i dno how drunk he was, and so don't a lot of people
dont you see, he made it up for the fuking money, it's so obvious, how could the TOP AMERICAN jury find him not guilty on all 5 counts by mistake ?

[nwshc]

you call that the top american jury? HA. You misguided soul. These were just people given a letter in the mail ramdomly. If Mj did it once, what makes you think he wouldnt do it again???
A bit of wine is fine, but mj gave the kid coke cans full. Thats bull shit

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

because it was a fucking dumnass redneck jury thats why. and in our civilized first world country, drinking is wrong you hillbilly. i dunno where the fuck you live but in america we haave laws of decency

[WakeUp]

IT TOOK 3/4 MONTHS TO DECIDE THE JURY?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya, and his defense lawers through out all the intelligent people. fractions of a month? your insane

[nwshc]

Robert Blake should be guilty too

[WakeUp]

lol, just, when they release some programme showing you two sides to story watch and you will see why i am sticking up for him, i know there is a decent case against him but..i dno, theres so much money involed :S:S

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya, and its his money that hes using to buy himself out of jail. duh

[WakeUp]

all i'm gona say is, go check how many witnesses, how many people were on the jury, how could he have bribed most of them ?

[TheWizard]

Justice was served. Stop crying about it. Go MJ

I love his music cause it has fast beats. Thrillr is awesome.

[WakeUp]

Yes finally some support!

[Anonymous]

mj is sooo innocent, you damn republicans are so vile! you think everyone that is different and doesnt fit in with societry is guilty! such fools!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Justice was served. Stop crying about it. Go MJ

I love his music cause it has fast beats. Thrillr is awesome.

you like his music, that instantly makes him innocent! yayyayayay :)

[Dante]

Im sitting here and wondering what goes through.. NWch and cosmos minds

you guys have too much hate in you and its sickening, wishing he would die and the jury would die , it shows how heartless and uncaring u guys are.

you guys honestly make me sick....and im not even talking about just MJ, other things....so closed minded its disgusting.

How would you feel if you were im Mj's situation, someone ACCUSED you of molesting them, knowing that u didnt.....How would you feel?

u guys have to remember you don't know for a fact that he did or didnt do it, the jury looked at the EVIDENCE and came to a conclusion that he didnt do it.....PEople may disagree and i respect that.....but hes free so stop bitching.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Im sitting here and wondering what goes through.. NWch and cosmos minds

you guys have too much hate in you and its sickening, wishing he would die and the jury would die , it shows how heartless and uncaring u guys are.

you guys honestly make me sick....and im not even talking about just MJ, other things....so closed minded its disgusting.

How would you feel if you were im Mj's situation, someone ACCUSED you of molesting them, knowing that u didnt.....How would you feel?

u guys have to remember you don't know for a fact that he did or didnt do it, the jury looked at the EVIDENCE and came to a conclusion that he didnt do it.....PEople may disagree and i respect that.....but hes free so stop bitching.

oh your full of yourself. how would i feel if i were MJ? i would probably shoot myself for being so goddamned stupid and such a fucking freak loser whose now broke.

[Dante]

how am I full of myself....your are a heartless person. Always wishing death on people who disagree with you. Why do you have so much anger in you?

if i was Mj i wouldnt of gotten myself in this sitaution again, HOPEFULLY he will stay away from children.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

why, he was innocent right? dont you think he has the right to have children sleep in his bed? after all hes such a loving and caring person (thats what you think). so if you stand so strongly behind his innocence, why would you turn around and hope he stays away from children?

[Dante]

why, he was innocent right? dont you think he has the right to have children sleep in his bed? after all hes such a loving and caring person (thats what you think). so if you stand so strongly behind his innocence, why would you turn around and hope he stays away from children?


The reason why i said he should stay away from children is because shyt like this happens to him when hes around him, they take advantage of his kindness.

he tries to help u and u slap im in his face ACCUSING him of doin these things...I hope he learns from this and doesnt associate himself with kids anymore, cuz this will prolly happen again if he does.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

letting children sleep in his bed? out of his big heart? disgusting

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

molesting a cellphone? disgusting


good god come on now. how would you like it if some stranger slept with your kids in their bed and you didnt know what he was up to?

[Anonymous]

letting children sleep in his bed? out of his big heart? disgusting

the world has completey lost their since of kindness! just because YOU wouldnt do it, doesnt mean it is wrong. he did not molest those kids! he was teaching them,being a good influence, spreading love!! does no one understand this???!!! they were mentally handicapped children!

[Dante]

I dont agree with him letting children sleep in his bed, i know I wouldnt want my child to do that. But did you hear what his accuser said in that martin bashir interview, that Mj decied to sleep on the floor while he slept on Mj's bed, hell the kid dindt want to sleep in his own room, he wanted to sleep in Mj's room. Mj loves kids cuz he was deprived a childhood. Everyone talks bout the molestation, but how come noone talks bout the good he does in th eworld.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

except its different. letting someone borrow a cellphone, a car, whatever, is just that. letting a child sleep in your bed, where you have easy access to break the law and scar their lives forever... its a little more drastic

[Dante]

but that doesnt mean he did it.

especially when the family has a history swandering money from people.

[nwshc]

letting children sleep in his bed? out of his big heart? disgusting

the world has completey lost their since of kindness! just because YOU wouldnt do it, doesnt mean it is wrong. he did not molest those kids! he was teaching them,being a good influence, spreading love!! does no one understand this???!!! they were mentally handicapped children!
He was teaching them what a "big boy pee-pee" looks like.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

lol thats right

[Anonymous]

I dont agree with him letting children sleep in his bed, i know I wouldnt want my child to do that. But did you hear what his accuser said in that martin bashir interview, that Mj decied to sleep on the floor while he slept on Mj's bed, hell the kid dindt want to sleep in his own room, he wanted to sleep in Mj's room. Mj loves kids cuz he was deprived a childhood. Everyone talks bout the molestation, but how come noone talks bout the good he does in th eworld.
this explains my view perfectly!!!
nwsch, that is the most immature thing i have ever heard! stop being such a pervert!! :wink:

[nwshc]

Actually, its not immature because it is true.

[Anonymous]

w/e im not going to argue with people with your circumstances. it is unfair to you. im soooo sorry!!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

its unfair to me that you keep pestering me and nwshc about the undeniable truth

[Anonymous]

unfair????!!! unfair is not being able to live a happy normal life like the rest of you! unfair, is cutting yourself everyday and not getting anything out of it. unfair is knowing that this is my only life, and i hate it! unfair is having to live in a world with people like you!

[Anonymous]

w/e im not going to argue with people with your circumstances. it is unfair to you. im soooo sorry!!

ENDED!! i win, cause michael is innocent! even if he wasnt, there isnt anything you can do about it! have a great life! :wink:
i know that sounds corny, but its true!

[Dante]

lol

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya, and george bush is the president. have you learned to love him? NO, so why should i learn to live with MJ walking free?

and dante im so pleased your not a mod of this forum or else ud lock the topic like you did in the white padded room you tard

[Anonymous]

you need to be a comedian matt!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

thats what you think. and i think what i think

[Dante]

oh im so hurt, u called me a tard, i think im gonna cry......give me a break.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i hope you do cry. cuz thats like the insult i use when im too tired to actually insult

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

’cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one’s gonna save you from the beast about strike
You know it’s thriller, thriller night
You’re fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight


HES INNOCENT!!!!
YES!!! it was all a scam for his money!

[Dante]

hell yea it was.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya you know what? no lol

[Ravenous]

I dont really care what happened, just another hyped up celebrity case. Wow he was found innocent big deal i dont really know or care whether he was or not.

[WakeUp]

lol, Tim has a point, why does it matter to us?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

why does anything matter to us? why does being in iraq matter to so many people here? if something conflicts with your personal views on the issue its going to matter, thats why

[nwshc]

Do you know why they found him innocent?
Because they felt offended by the mother of the accuser. They said it them selves. She snapped her fingers at them. One got offended. Another said the mother kept looking at them. She got offended. Another didn't like the way she corrected mj's attorney. He got offended. This verdict was brought on because of emotions and they didn't like the mother. That's not right at all. Emotions shouldn't play into a court case. No matter what any side does to make you uncomfortable, you look at the facts, not whether one of the people pissed you off. And that's what is wrong. They didn't look at the facts. They interviewed the foreman of the jury. He said they said he was innocent because they didn't like what the mother was doing to them and they didn't believe her. And the interview her said " well deep down in your heart, do you believe mj mole3sted that kid?" And the foreman didn't answer. HE DIDNT ANSWER. He thought mj did it.
Now i must admit, the prosecution bringing on a charge of conspiracy is fucking retarded. and they didn't even bring Mj to the stands.
But the evidence was there.
1) Porn was found next to mj's bed
2)They found wine in the coke cans (Jesus juice)
3) there was a tub of Vaseline next to the porn
4) Mj admitted to sleeping with a kid in the same bed every night for one year
5)He paid of that first kid around 5 mill or something when that kid accused him of it. Do you know why? Because if mj did go to court with that first kid, he would have been thrown in jail for sure.

That is all you need to convict him of molesting him. Also how did the kid know that the wine in the coke cans are called by mj "Jesus juice"? Only if he was with him. And how did the kid know that his penis was discolored with black and white splotches? You need to see it to know it. Now how can he not be guilty from that?
Even if he was not guilty of molesting the kid, then how is he not guilty of giving the kid alcohol??? That is absurd. That is why i am pissed.
So looks like you don't win.

[Dante]

Yes, the jurors didnt like the mother because she was snapping at them, but if you READ everything and actually listened to them, they said the evidence the prosecution gave wasnt enough, they didnt have smoking gun evidence to prove it.

So they didnt find him not guilty because of the mom, When jacksons lawyers cross-examined the accuser and his bro and sister, soemthing didnt even add up.

The boy was pretty much told by his mom to lie...Jay Leno said that he talked to the kid, and it was like he was reading from a script.

yes porn was found by his bed, so the F**** what, u watch f*** porn.

For all we know the kid could of sneaked ito his room when jacksonwas takin a shower and was lookin at the magazines.


You keep on mentioning "jesus juice" so the f**** what, he could of made that up....So stop acting like theres no way the kid could have known what it was if Mj didnt tell him, so what ur sayin is dumb.

There was wine in the coke can, but if u payed attention to the trial, jackson flight attendant said that he put the wine in his coke can and gave the kids soda.

So jackson was drinking the alcohol in a coke can, because he didnt want the kids to know what hes drinking.

stop bringing past cases up....what happened in 93-94 was settled out of court. We are focusing on this trial, not past accusations.

You always talk about how you so american, blah blah blah, but if you were...You would know somethin about the judicial system...INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILY. and guess what he wasnt proven guilty.

So stop acting like you know EVERYTHING, ur like 14 f**** years old.....Continue going to school and pay attention to your f**** history. and you might be able to have a f****intelligent conversation.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dante, why are you so afraid to say the word FUCK

[nwshc]

Woooo please. We dont need the cursing.
Ya im 14. Does that make me incompitent? I am carying on a perfect coversation. A nice, clean, perfect conversation.

The judge let the "case" form 93-94 into this trial.
To show he has a pattern. Thats why the 93-94 "case" is being brought up. He settled out of court and that shows a "pattern" that he molested kids. If he settled out of court, 99% says that he did molest that first kid.

Ok, jackson didnt want to have the kids see the wine so he put it in the coke can. Ok. But what if he did that at his ranch? What if he put the wine in the coke can and gave it to the kids? Thats why he called it "Jesus juice". He called it that because he probably didnt want the kids knowing that it was wine.

And the porn nxt to his bed. The kid identified the porn that was there. The same porn found next to his bed. The kid identified the different things that were in that mag. And if the kid did look at the porn when jackson was in the shower, jackson should have hid the porn so the kid couldnt see. Not just leave it next to his bed.

Yes, i an very proud to be an American. And i know he was proven not guilty. But im saying that he should have been guilty and i am listing my reasons why. And i am expressing my hatred for this case. Dam. If you dont like it, dont read.

Go USA!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Woooo please. We dont need the cursing.
Ya im 14. Does that make me incompitent? I am carying on a perfect coversation. A nice, clean, perfect conversation.


nick please, fuck off. :D

[Φρανκομβριτ]

If you went through that whole ordeal to prove you are innocent, and all you got was negativity, how the hell would you feel?

[nwshc]

Bah
I would feel like shit, but i would have never have brought any of that attention to myself in the first place.
It is known that he has slept with little boys. It is known that he is trying to live through his childhood right now, and it is known that he has a certain "Bond" with kids. And because of all of this, why would anyone not think that he did it? All of this stuff that he has done could point in the direction of him being guilty. If he never wanted the attention, he would have never have done that.

[Anonymous]

why on earth was that kid over at michael's house for a year? the kid had bad parents! the parents were hoping he would molest the kid, so they could get money! the kid could have left at any time! anyway, the parents should be charged with child neglection charges!

[nwshc]

First, its a different kid.
Second, are you that stupid just to put all the blame on the parents?? Neglect? MJ splept with the kid! and who knows what happened in that one year.

[Anonymous]

its not JUST michael jackson, any parent who sents their kid to an unknown adult : and to spend the night!!!!! for 365 nights!

[nwshc]

Yes, it is some of the parents fault, but why do you blame it all on the parents for letting mj sleep with him? MJ shouldnt even be sleeping with him in the same bed. Im sure he has a spare bed somewhere in neverland dont you?

[Anonymous]

he offered to sleep on the floor...but the kid didnt want him too.. i know that sounds like bs, but its what i heard. also i think michael knew that his parents werent exactly GOOD parents. so, maybe he was trying to be a father to him.

[nwshc]

You don't be a father by sleeping with the kid! Sure, if you are an acctual father, and the kid is >3 and he is afraid of the thunder of something, that is fine. But if you are not related at all, you shouldnt even be sleeping in the same room.

If that did happen and the kid did want MJ to sleep with him, MJ should have had some common sence and said "no i will sleep in another room"


And if the parents were bad, thats what DSS is for!

[Anonymous]

lets just STOP arguing about this!!! this is doing no good. we are making opinons on our limited information!!! it doesnt matter what happened, its over! MJ is trying to relive his childhood. we can't observe people from other people's perseptions.
You can continue to reject it, but in the court's eyes he is innocent. if we continue arguing, i will just dislike you more. there is no way that i can change your point of view nor can you change mine.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

we can argue about it more... it's the debate forum.

hehehe good point

[Anonymous]

ok

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hes guilty ;)

[Anonymous]

hes innocent :wink:

[Anonymous]

he used to be black :wink:

[Whisper]

he used to be black :wink:

What does that have to do with anything

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

;) code you broke the chain you nub

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

he also looks like an ugly woman ;)

[Anonymous]

he has an unusual nose :wink:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

he has barely any money anymore ;)

[nwshc]

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[<-Dying_to_Live->]

lol your such a nub ;) (yet correct at the same time ;))

[Dante]

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and that my friend is the truth, just accept it.

[nwshc]

No, i will not except it, and i will continue to debate this subject till i am all debated out.

[Dante]

well it wont get you any where......because hes free.

[nwshc]

And im pissed about that, and i have told you all the reasons why.

[Anonymous]

haha! well it doesnt matter what you think, because Dante and I are right! he IS innocent! and there is NOTHING you can do about it!!! isnt it great! hahahahahahahahahahaha :wink:

[Whisper]

And im pissed about that, and i have told you all the reasons why.
I agree nick i'm pissed about it to!!
But arguing like this dosen't do any good on either side


aconfusedone......Try to shink that extremly large ego of yours, thanks hun

[Anonymous]

well the truth really does suck sometimes..

[Anonymous]

lets just STOP arguing about this!!! this is doing no good. we are making opinons on our limited information!!! it doesnt matter what happened, its over! MJ is trying to relive his childhood. we can't observe people from other people's perseptions.
You can continue to reject it, but in the court's eyes he is innocent. if we continue arguing, i will just dislike you more. there is no way that i can change your point of view nor can you change mine.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[nwshc]

haha! well it doesnt matter what you think, because Dante and I are right! he IS innocent! and there is NOTHING you can do about it!!! isnt it great! hahahahahahahahahahaha :wink:

So what if he is innocent? Does that mean i cant say i think hes guilty and back it up with facts on why i think he is?

What if we were debating about the war and i said " well you know what? The war happened and there is NOTHING you can do about it. isn't it great!". Thats would sound childish, immature.

Ya, thats what i thought.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

haha! well it doesnt matter what you think, because Dante and I are right! he IS innocent! and there is NOTHING you can do about it!!! isnt it great! hahahahahahahahahahaha :wink:

yes, same goes with the fact that george bush is still the president and we are still in iraq bringing freedom to the middle east ;)

[Anonymous]

i dont care, the world is shallow and it sucks! :wink:

Im over it.

[Dante]

first off dont make this about the war, do that on a different thread.

[///James///]

ok so from michael jackson to president bush! er no

i think some of the things being said are kinda childish, you have said what you want to say, thats over with!

locking

[TheWizard]

The courts said MJ is free. They listened to all the evidence and and let him go cause his didn't do anthing wrong.

Suck it up.

[Anonymous]

josh is always right! so meh!

[nwshc]

No, not really.

So what if he was free. I have the right to debate that he should be guilty.

If you ask me, you are all being very childish saying "suck it up, he is free" and "Hes innocent and there is nothing you could do about it"

And our posts relating to the war and bush were said to make a point, and one that you obviously didn't get.

When we debate about the war, would either me and cosmos say " Well the war happened and there is nothing you could do about it" and "hes free, so suck it up"? No we wouldn't. Because that is just plain stupid.

Even tho the war happened, you can still say why we should be at war, or why bush shouldn't be prez.

And going along with the above, i can still say why i think that mj should be guilty, even tho she was set free.

Do you get it now?

[nwshc]

And another thing i dont get.
Why do you people lock threads where people disagree?
So far you have locked one mj thread, and tried to lock this one.
Now my question is, why whouldnt you lock a thread on the war or Bush?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya, why not just lock every thread where you feel threatened because your opinion is somehow being jeopordized by someone elses? i mean please, this is the debate forum. the longer the threads are open, the more debating that can occur and thus fulfil the purpose of this area.

[TheWizard]

Sorry I'll unlock it for you this time. But you should talk to the mod who locked it the future.

[TheWizard]

hay i told you so

[Whisper]

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and that my friend is the truth, just accept it.

I think it should have been locked
cause of childish remarks like this
its not a debate anymore
it was now its just a childish pissing contest

When James locked it NOBODY should have posted they should have understood that he's the mod of this fourm and he's just trying to do his job
He's a good mod!!!

everyone should have accepted the fact that there diffrent so there opinions are diffrent
They should have respected that and showed sum dignity
it didn't happen

So yea it should be locked