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Mirage
April 4th, 2012, 07:23 PM
Hey all,

Every time me or my mom has an opinion about something that my dad disagrees with, he will openly tell us that our opinion is wrong. So I was just wondering what you all think about this, my mom and I both agree that an opinion can't be wrong, and you are entitled to it.

DerBear
April 4th, 2012, 07:25 PM
Eh everyone is entitled to an opinion but people also have the right to disagree with it.

Thunduhbuhlt
April 4th, 2012, 08:25 PM
As SilverWolf said, you are entitled to an opinion, but you can't be mad when someone doesn't agree with it. Not everyone will agree to everything, and you can't expect your opinion to be the same as everyone elses.

Korashk
April 4th, 2012, 11:20 PM
Opinions that contradict facts are wrong by definition. To claim that opinions can't be wrong is absurd.

Jupiter
April 4th, 2012, 11:23 PM
opinion |əˈpinyən|
noun
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge

you have your view on certain things. everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

kenoloor
April 5th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Opinions that contradict facts are wrong by definition. To claim that opinions can't be wrong is absurd.

Precisely this. Not much else needs to be said.

Mortal Coil
April 5th, 2012, 12:13 AM
I clicked no, but there are some circumstances in which opinions can be wrong. For instance, it is my opinion that my brother is stupid, but if he turned out to have an IQ of 140 then my opinion would not change but merely be disproved.

Dragon_Droppings
April 5th, 2012, 12:20 AM
Opinions that contradict facts are wrong by definition. To claim that opinions can't be wrong is absurd.

My thoughts exactly. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't make that opinion right.

Genghis Khan
April 5th, 2012, 02:38 AM
I clicked no, but there are some circumstances in which opinions can be wrong. For instance, it is my opinion that my brother is stupid, but if he turned out to have an IQ of 140 then my opinion would not change but merely be disproved.

IQ tests aren't a very good measure of intelligence.

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OP, it depends on what he's disagreeing with, give us a few examples.

Mortal Coil
April 5th, 2012, 02:39 AM
IQ tests aren't a very good measure of intelligence.

It was just an example...

Lights
April 5th, 2012, 11:57 AM
I think that opinions are only wrong if they are formed with a lack of information, or from information which is incorrect. Both of these circumstances lead people to getting the wrong idea about something.
If someone is fully informed about a social issue such as racism, sexism or homophobia, and they still choose to hold that 'wrong' view, then I think it comes down to being more of a moral issue than anything else.

Interestingly, though, the word 'opinion' is defined as follows:
o·pin·ion/əˈpinyən/
Noun:
A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Therefore, perhaps it could be argued that an opinion can never be wrong because it doesn't have to based off fact or knowledge.

Interesting question!
I wish I could change my vote in the poll. I voted before I'd really thought about it.

Professional Russian
April 5th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Your Opinion is wroong unless proved by facts

Neptune
April 5th, 2012, 08:47 PM
An opinion can be wrong. It all has to do with the person who thinks it is wrong. You can have an opinion, of course but if I disagree with it, it's because I think its wrong.

Angel Androgynous
April 5th, 2012, 10:09 PM
In my opinion we should sacrifice and eat a newborn baby every wednesday to honor corn.

It's just my opinion don't attack me for it. xx

[-]This thread is poop[/-]

Sugaree
April 5th, 2012, 10:21 PM
In my opinion we should sacrifice and eat a newborn baby every wednesday to honor corn.

I am so sigging that.

Jean Poutine
April 5th, 2012, 10:23 PM
My opinion is never wrong, so I guess opinions can't be wrong, but if your opinion contradicts mine, you are wrong.

So perhaps opinions that matter can't be wrong.

Such a conundrum.

Erasmus
April 6th, 2012, 08:57 PM
No. An opinion is an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one, no matter what it is.

kenoloor
April 8th, 2012, 01:24 AM
No. An opinion is an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one, no matter what it is.

This thread isn't about entitlement. It's about correctness.

And anyway, no; I disagree. You're only entitled to your opinion, as I've said time and time again, if you can capably support it. If you can't defend the validity of you opinion, then it's a worthless opinion.

Sugaree
April 8th, 2012, 01:27 AM
This thread isn't about entitlement. It's about correctness.

And anyway, no; I disagree. You're only entitled to your opinion, as I've said time and time again, if you can capably support it. If you can't defend the validity of you opinion, then it's a worthless opinion.

But it's still an opinion, right? No matter how wrong it is - and wrong is subjective.

kenoloor
April 8th, 2012, 01:29 AM
But it's still an opinion, right? No matter how wrong it is - and wrong is subjective.

Of course; I was referring to the remark about "entitlement."

Sugaree
April 8th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Of course; I was referring to the remark about "entitlement."

You're correct, but that was still only one definition of entitlement. Entitlement, to many, means you've earned something through hard work/perseverance. I consider this the right definition of the word. Others think it means you should be given something based simply on your own desire. I think this is the "entitlement" most people have with opinions. You shouldn't want an opinion just because you want one.

Entitlement to an opinion is a default human right. We're all beings capable of free thought, so why be "entitled" to free thought?

Bath
April 8th, 2012, 11:10 AM
“Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.” - Democritus.

LuciferSam
April 8th, 2012, 03:34 PM
If you want to get a taste of my "opinion" on proving something correct, go to my thread "Is it possible to prove that anything is real?". I apologize in advance for being so irritatingly Socratic and Cartesian throughout said thread.

But again, that is my opinion, and it may be wrong.

But assuming that I am wrong and that things are provable to be correct, it is possible to prove an opinion wrong. If you hold the opinion that the world is flat, modern science and some science not so modern has disproved this. How do I know that science is correct? I don't. But this is not the place to discuss such things. As I said, feel free to check out my thread for insight.

“Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.” - Democritus.

How do you know that atoms and space exist? Saying that they exist is pure opinion as well.

double posts merged. do not double post, use the edit button to add in anything else. -embers

Korashk
April 9th, 2012, 12:15 PM
How do you know that atoms and space exist? Saying that they exist is pure opinion as well.
Here's a syllogism for you:

Atoms and space make up everything that exists.
You know that you exist.
Therefore, you know that you are made up of atoms and space.

Hyper-skepticism isn't a virtue, and questioning things like reality don't make you seem smarter.

SugarPlumFairy
April 9th, 2012, 03:54 PM
I know my opinion is right, because I don't make an opinion based off of nothing. Your opinion is wrong, if you don't base it off any facts, or if you don't have any proof that your opinion is true,

Can'tHelpIt
April 10th, 2012, 05:56 PM
I accidently clicked no

Rage of the Menace
April 11th, 2012, 05:59 AM
An opinion is wrong once it's not backed and proven invalid. Hence, Fallacious.

KewlKat
April 12th, 2012, 11:20 AM
an opinion is an opinion, that's what they think, they could be right or wrong... but have fun convincing them that their wrong...

ApresMidi
April 15th, 2012, 03:40 PM
No. An opinion is an opinion, and everyone is entitled to one, no matter what it is.

Whats the saying ?

No ,you are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.

letters0numbers
June 16th, 2018, 03:31 PM
An opinion of a person depends on the information and facts that he/she have access to and have seen/hear/taste/feel/smell. It can also change based on collective information he/she has acquired through his/her life time. Everyone sees things differently due to the different experience everyone had, so people could have different opinion on things, For example:

There is a pyramid floating in the air. The person under it see that it was a square and claims that it was a square. Another person is floating next to the pyramid and saw that it was a triangle and claims that it is a triangle. Due to different perspective, they are looking at the same thing, but have different thoughts about it.

Is any of them correct thought? Maybe a pyramid does have a square surface and four other triangles, but as a whole, it is a pyramid.

Another situation this could be is when the bottom surface of the pyramid is a triangle. Both of the person above see the same thing, they agree with each other and think that they were right, but by fact, they are false.

An opinion will always be right based on the person's perspective, but it can be claimed true or false because it is a statement. And these days how do we determine if something is true or false anymore? Opinions are thrown everywhere and we ourselves could be false.

Jinglebottom
June 16th, 2018, 03:39 PM
An opinion of a person depends on the information and facts that he/she have access to and have seen/hear/taste/feel/smell. It can also change based on collective information he/she has acquired through his/her life time. Everyone sees things differently due to the different experience everyone had, so people could have different opinion on things, For example:

There is a pyramid floating in the air. The person under it see that it was a square and claims that it was a square. Another person is floating next to the pyramid and saw that it was a triangle and claims that it is a triangle. Due to different perspective, they are looking at the same thing, but have different thoughts about it.

Is any of them correct thought? Maybe a pyramid does have a square surface and four other triangles, but as a whole, it is a pyramid.

Another situation this could be is when the bottom surface of the pyramid is a triangle. Both of the person above see the same thing, they agree with each other and think that they were right, but by fact, they are false.

An opinion will always be right based on the person's perspective, but it can be claimed true or false because it is a statement. And these days how do we determine if something is true or false anymore? Opinions are thrown everywhere and we ourselves could be false.
Please don't bump threads older than two months. This thread is over 6 years old. :locked: