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kolte
June 24th, 2007, 01:25 PM
debate!
I'll add in my part once the shit has been stirred.
Maverick
June 24th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Great to see you back Kolte.
No, it shouldn't. Why should the government legalize something that is harmful? I see people on this forum for example, post back and say marijuana doesn't hurt you and it's not addictive, etc and it doesn't hurt anyone. Now, things have changed and it's done them no good and they're worst off. The idea of personal responsibility is bullshit. People can't even control their eating habits so to give them more things to kill themselves with can't do any good. There's also health problems too. More unhealthy people cost everyone. Our health care system is in a rut and we shouldn't be adding more things to make people more unhealthy.
I would rather have healthier people than happy pot heads. The majority of this country don't want it and the government should enforce what the people want.
Not to mention it smells awful! :P
kolte
June 24th, 2007, 02:15 PM
Great to see you back Kolte.
No, it shouldn't. Why should the government legalize something that is harmful? I see people on this forum for example, post back and say marijuana doesn't hurt you and it's not addictive, etc and it doesn't hurt anyone. Now, things have changed and it's done them no good and they're worst off. The idea of personal responsibility is bullshit. People can't even control their eating habits so to give them more things to kill themselves with can't do any good. There's also health problems too. More unhealthy people cost everyone. Our health care system is in a rut and we shouldn't be adding more things to make people more unhealthy.
I would rather have healthier people than happy pot heads. The majority of this country don't want it and the government should enforce what the people want.
Not to mention it smells awful! :P
On the contrary my good sir, I think the facts point in the direction of little to no health problems. And the advances to medical research and possible cures and treatments for disease are to be found the plant Cannabis Sativa. Science has found that marijuana is one of the benign substances know to humans.
The 2000 NHSDA conservatively estimated 1 in 20 people, thats around 11 million Americans, smoked pot in the last month. The truth is, anywhere from 10 to 50 million people in the united states use marijuana. Thats a relatively large minority to just ignore. The fundamentals of democracy are undermined when we ignore the cries of such a vast populace.
In the 96.2 million emergency room visits in 2000, marijuana was mentioned in only .01 percent. This means that the patient admitted at some point in the medical interview to having used marijuana recently. In 76% of these cases, marijuana was used in conjunction with another drug, such as alcohol or cocaine. Not to mention, annually, 430,000 deaths occur because of tobacco, 110,000 because of alcohol, 32,000 because of prescription drugs, and all of 0 because of Marijuana.
The medical applications of marijuana are vast. Aids, Asthma, Arthritis and Auto immune diseases, cancer, chronic pain, depression and other mood disorders, epilepsy, glaucoma, menstrual craps and labor pain, multiple sclerosis, muscle spasm and spasticity, migraines, paraplegia and quadriplegia, pruritis, are all disorders that can be treated and some even cured by the use of marijuana.
“Marijuana prohibition has caused us to pay a terrible price in pain and suffering, sepecially for those who are critically ill and might otherwise benifit from this unique herbal medicine....the truth is that as long as marijuana is illegal all of us are being denied a valuable medicine which can provide nontoxic, longlasting relief, and even cures for a host of common ailments.â€
Sources:
Ed Rosenthal and Steve Kubby in Why marijuana should be legal
Maverick
June 24th, 2007, 02:35 PM
I forgot to cover the medical benefits from it. Now I do agree with it for medical reasons. Legit medical reasons. If doctors can prove that it can help a patient then it should be given to them. I feel though that it should be done the same policy of prescription medication. Yes, pills and prescriptions are beneficial, but they can be abused hence why they need to be controlled. Just because prescription medication is beneficial doesn't mean we give them to everyone. I feel that for your argument you say "oh since its beneficial for the ill, we should legalize it for everyone." That shouldn't be how it works. It should be given to the people who need it. You shouldn't use another's need for it as an excuse for you to have it. I really doubt you're ill and are in need of it. You're just arguing for that reason because its convenient and works in your favor even though it doesn't apply to your personal need or requirement.
kolte
June 24th, 2007, 02:50 PM
I forgot to cover the medical benefits from it. Now I do agree with it for medical reasons. Legit medical reasons. If doctors can prove that it can help a patient then it should be given to them. I feel though that it should be done the same policy of prescription medication. Yes, pills and prescriptions are beneficial, but they can be abused hence why they need to be controlled. Just because prescription medication is beneficial doesn't mean we give them to everyone. I feel that for your argument you say "oh since its beneficial for the ill, we should legalize it for everyone." That shouldn't be how it works. It should be given to the people who need it. You shouldn't use another's need for it as an excuse for you to have it. I really doubt you're ill and are in need of it. You're just arguing for that reason because its convenient and works in your favor even though it doesn't apply to your personal need or requirement.
Nay, I don't argue for convenience. I'm just keeping true to the subject matter, you mentioned health, I thought I would stay on track. And now we are invited into the dredges of social acceptance. Remember that the use of marijuana is a victim less action. Nobody is hurt, nobody is forced beyond there will to do something they feel is wrong. I see no rational basis for the legal distinction between alcohol and marijuana and I like many others have become cynical about Americas political institutions and democratic process. These laws, supposedly enforced for our safety, seem to only brew more violence. I believe that the laws cause more harm then good. In lames terms:
“Before we make a reasoned decision about marijuana, we should weigh the effects marijuana has on society against the effects the marijuana laws have. If marijuana is more harmful to society than the laws, then the laws should be retained. If the laws are more harmful then the substance the laws should be changed.â€
And what do we see. No negative health effects except those associated with smoke inhalation, which are unproven. Many medical benefits, many industrial benefits, many young innocent teenagers jailed and stocked with a criminal record. The harm that marijuana laws cause individuals is exacerbated by the damage the laws do to society. Thousands of marijuana related arrests lead to longterm incarceration every year, imprisonment leads to breakdown of families and can spell psychological and economic disaster for loved ones. the marijuana laws ruin the lives of productive members of society.
“The war on pot has been a disaster for our society. Consider the price society is paying:
Children turning in there parents, parents turning in there kids, friends turning in there friends, families ripped apart, billions of dollars wasted each year to enforce marijuana laws, six million people a year under court supervision, millions of seriously ill patients denied safe, inexpensive relief, farmers denied a change to join the growing worldwide hemp industry, the humiliation and loss of privacy inherent in widespread drug testing.â€
Think! Why is marijuana illegal? WHY? because it makes the government lots of money. All those tax dollars, all those court fines, all the business. The more people are in jail, being fined, and punished to community service, the more the government roles in.
Maverick
June 24th, 2007, 03:21 PM
People chose to break the law. It is their choice. People make decisions everyday and if they make the wrong one, they deal with the consequences. People shouldn't be rewarded for breaking the law just because others do it too. It defeats the purpose of the law to begin with and it's giving up and giving in.
How exactly can marijuana be beneficial on the social level?
Right now, I can only see it's disadvantages. People becoming less productive, becoming mentally ill, becoming more unhealthy and teens and people becoming addicted. Leading into other worst drugs and developing a tolerance which would lower the bar and become numb into worst drugs.
I think keeping that to a minimum with it illegal is better than having it legal so some users can "feel good." When I weigh the benefits, less people negatively affected by the use of it the better.
Alcohol and cigarettes are harmful and each can do equally or much more damage. I don't like the idea of "well if thats bad why can't we add another" because why should we add more substances? Why add to the list? Why add another thing that can be bad to already bad things?
kolte
June 24th, 2007, 03:33 PM
How is marijuana bad? What negative effects? What depression, what mental illness can be linked with marijuana? Marijuana has been shown to help dysphoria gently and naturally. Conventinal antidepr5essant and mood stabilizing druges like selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors lithium, tricyclics, and MAO inhibitors have serious health risks and side effects. Why support a law that helps nothing, saves off from nothing? Who is suffering so badly from marijuana, were is the victim, where is the factual basis for its illegality!
Your opressor whould have you believe its bad, because they force feed you capatilist morailty. They want you to bee a quiet mass, a law abiding mass, a conformist, a go getting. You are more valubal to them in this manner, those defient enough to use marijuana are supermen, they challange the status quo, they say FUCK YOU to the master, and break free of there chains. They will not be opressed by idology, or anything elese.
Maverick
June 24th, 2007, 03:49 PM
Alright one thing I hate about debating the legalization of marijuana with people because at one point or another, I get accused of being a conformist or that I form my opinion only because the government says so. I am quite old enough to think for myself and have my own opinions. Don't judge me and assume just because I'm against it, doesn't mean that I think the way I do just because my health teacher or the above the influence commercials says so.
So what exactly are the benefits on a social level? You claim to think on a balance level. Which outweigh the most?
So tell me, what are the benefits of the legalization on a social level that are better than people getting addicted and wasting their money on it.. and leading into other drugs, having impaired judgment. Please bring light to that.
Trebor
June 24th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Anthony, I challenge you to find me one piece of an independent study that says marijuana is harmfu!
Maverick
June 24th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Why an independent study? I think real life experiences and comments are better. This is reality right now. Not a bunch of scientists with only limited information to prove and only can explain so much. Here is reality.:
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=160558&postcount=1
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=159083&postcount=1
(hardest thing to do -- must have been bad in order to be hard..)
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=160661&postcount=69
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=158240&postcount=56
MoveAlong
June 24th, 2007, 04:21 PM
A mental addiction must not ruin or impair the life of a person
Of course this goes for smoking too, so I can't use that comment :P
I say it should be legalized but not abused or impair someone's duties.
kolte
June 24th, 2007, 10:53 PM
How would it benifit society. Asside from letting 6 million jailed kids and young adults free to persue life? Apart from becomeing a multi billion dollar industrial business, creating millions of jobs? Asside from allowing americans the right to choose? it would benifit much. but nor would it hurt much. As far as i'm aware, those that are against marijuana have moral issues with it, while those in favor, have pratical reasons.
Maverick
June 24th, 2007, 11:04 PM
Why would setting 6 million people who have no problem breaking the law benefit society? It would benefit them as they would be free but that wouldn't exactly benefit society setting free criminals.
As far as I'm aware, those that are in favor of legalization are because they want to be able to freely use marijuana not because they care about the well being of society and want everyone to benefit from this legalization. They only care about their personal interests of being able to legally smoke pot so they won't be breaking the law.
It will still hurt more than benefit which is the reason why I'm against it. I weigh out the options and it's better left illegal. After seeing what it can do to you from family experience and even from people on this forum, I can hardly see it more beneficial than harmful.
kolte
June 24th, 2007, 11:30 PM
How is smokeing pot a crime? Who is it affecting? Bad laws are ment to be broken. Laws don't govern you, you govern the laws! awaken.
Maverick
June 24th, 2007, 11:56 PM
Seriously see my previous posts. I feel like we're going in circles with this now.
Whisper
June 25th, 2007, 01:42 AM
I think it should be legalized
Canada came VERY close under jean chretien but then Paul Martin stopped it and Steven Harper like...burned it
Trebor
June 25th, 2007, 10:30 AM
From the British Medical Journal:
http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/local_links.php?action=jump&id=150&catid=21
American Journal of Pyschiatry:
http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/local_links.php?action=jump&id=838&catid=21
From the same Journal:
http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/local_links.php?action=jump&id=838&catid=21
Break the Cage
June 25th, 2007, 06:10 PM
kolte, what the fuck is up man
its been a while
i cbf to write an essay, too high :)
maybe later..
Rawrbaby
June 25th, 2007, 06:26 PM
it should be illegal it should only be used for medical reasons and even then the people should be monitored while they r doing or using it they should put it where it can only be helpful not dangreous
kolte
June 25th, 2007, 10:28 PM
it should be illegal it should only be used for medical reasons and even then the people should be monitored while they r doing or using it they should put it where it can only be helpful not dangreous
How is it dangerous? Please explain.
xTheLordsServantx
June 26th, 2007, 10:57 AM
How is smokeing pot a crime? Who is it affecting? Bad laws are ment to be broken. Laws don't govern you, you govern the laws! awaken.
Laws were not made to be broken. That is very contradictory.
Melchi0r
June 26th, 2007, 12:26 PM
He said "bad" laws were meant to be broken, a philosophy I wholeheartedly agree with. The law against murder, of course, is not made to be broken, but what about a law against sunglasses? Everyone would eventually start breaking that law because of how dumb it is.
kolte
June 26th, 2007, 02:48 PM
He said "bad" laws were meant to be broken, a philosophy I wholeheartedly agree with. The law against murder, of course, is not made to be broken, but what about a law against sunglasses? Everyone would eventually start breaking that law because of how dumb it is.
Thank you for your defense. Servant of God, if I may call you that, Don't use my phrases out of context to fuel your argument, thats character defamation, and makes me want to sling mud. If you don't want to get submerged in fire, then don't lite the match.
Marijuana, I think I have pointed out, is harmless. “Actually, marijuana law enforcement is more of a threat to the health of marijuana users then the herb itself. Every year, marijuana users die or are killed by police officers as the direct result of the enforcement.†- Health Effects, Why Marijuana Should be Legal
Legislation has been passed in more then twenty different states to allow marijuana's use as a medicine. However, Federal law preempts these statues. The feds insist that marijuana has no medical benefits, but there is ample evidence that medical marijuana works.
Forty four percent of oncologists responding to a questionnaire said they had recommended marijuana to their cancer patients. Fifty four percent said they would recommend medical marijuana if it were legal.
Several studies have clearly shown that marijuana is effective in reducing nausea and vomiting.
Patients undergoing cancer chemotherapy have found smoking marijuana to be more effective then available pharmaceutical medications, including Marinol.
Marijuana is also smoked by thousands of AIDS patients to treat the symptoms associated with both the disease and drug therapy. Because it stimulates appetite, marijuana also counters HIV related “Wasting,†allowing AIDS patients to gain weight and prolong their lives.
NOT TO MENTION hemp, or industrial marijuana has many applications.
Hemp requires no herbicides or pesticides and needs much less water then cotton. It is an extremely vigorous annual and high yielder, producing up to five tons of usable material per acre.
Hemp seed oil is a nonpolluting drying oil that can be used for pains and varnishes.
Hemp oil is valuable as a lubricant.
Hemp oil is a premier oil for human consumption containing essential fatty acids.
Hemp can be used for press board, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Also drywall and plywood, plastic plumbing pope, and glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards.
Paper made from hemp is acid free. It is stronger and lasts far longer then paper made from trees.
Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold then any other natural fiber.
Marijuana could be a 20+ billion dollar industry. America is missing out.
Trebor
June 26th, 2007, 04:13 PM
Kolte, as a communist you should be against any form of intoxication. Aren't intoxicants used by the Bourgeosie to keep the masses under control?
Waiting
June 26th, 2007, 04:39 PM
i say no to legalization.
nobody would have any idea hwo to tax it.
it would push kids into doing and starting off on harder drugs...
now half as many teens would smoek weed if it was legal.
plus if it was made illegal it would be so god damn expensive
andpeople like me would go outa buisness ha
kolte
June 26th, 2007, 04:50 PM
How might the dire condition of.....culture be improved?....by those with a healthy disrespect for the status quo, i.e. the youth of the nation.
At first they will be more ignorant then the men of the present, for they will have unlearnt much and will have lost any desire even to discuss what those educated men especially wish to know: in fact, their hallmark from the educated point of view will be just their lack of [knowledge], their indefference and inaccessibility to all the good and famous things. Only then can we produce our own culture, rather then following the cultures of the past swalling them whole like a crocodile swallows an antelope, leading to complete inertia.
This indifference to history and education will finally produce a genuinely vital culture: a freedom of spirit.
At the end of the cure they are men again and have ceased to be mere shadows of humanities.
quote: Nietzsche & Laurence Gane
sources: Introducing Nietzsche, Laurence Gane and Piero
*Dissident*
June 26th, 2007, 08:06 PM
I have done extensive research on the subject of legalization, but so far nothing has been said that has been left out. Oh, except for the fact that it costs some 20 billion dollars just to keep marijuna prisoners in jail ever year. about 23k per prisoner, and like 1.6 million arrests or so...
Octo22
June 26th, 2007, 10:19 PM
I think it should be legalized
Canada came VERY close under jean chretien but then Paul Martin stopped it and Steven Harper like...burned it
WRONG
Canada came NO WHERE CLOSE to legalizing Marijuana. We came close to decriminalizing it yes, but it still would be illegal. No crime rap sheet, just a fine. I think Canada will legalize it one day, hell Amsterdam has a lower crime rate than the states by...hm....12 times lower?
Also, Marijuana isn't a gateway drug. It's been proven that something along the lines of 2% of all users have moved on to Harder drugs. Also, we'd be cutting off organized crimes main source of profit.
British Columbia alone, makes $6 Billion a year JUST on Marijuana.
The drug industry/organized crime makes 600 billion a year. I think we should turn that into government money.
MoveAlong
June 26th, 2007, 11:02 PM
The drug industry/organized crime makes 600 billion a year. I think we should turn that into government money.
My mom thinks the same way and I think you're right O_o
Glasgow
June 26th, 2007, 11:23 PM
I think Marijuana should be legal yes. Its basically the same as ciggarettes, only with pot you actually get high. It will also cut down on all the people going to jail and all the paranoia that all these smokers and dealers have. I heard that in the US if you are caught with marijuana you can go to jail for 10 years or something. I find that completely unneccesary.
MoveAlong
June 26th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Its basically the same as ciggarettes, only with pot you actually get high.
Marijuana isn't nearly as bad as a fag when it comes to health issues.
I'm an ok guy, I was talking about the fag that you suck on...well that's not too clear either O_o you know what I mean! :P
Pioneer92
June 26th, 2007, 11:59 PM
My mom thinks the same way and I think you're right O_o
i agree too, it makes sense to me to make some money and in a way protect people instead of spending money tracking down drug dealers and making raids. itd be safer (i think) because itd be controlled and regulated but im sure someone already said that. i wouldnt ever touch the stuff though but i think itd be beneficial for the people that do...
kolte
June 27th, 2007, 12:58 AM
More facts from "Why Marijuana Should Be Legal, by Ed Rosenthal and Steve Kubby.
Federal taxpayers spend far more per year to house one inmate, about twenty three thousand dollars. Than to educate one child at approximately eight thousand dollars.
This is quite disturbing to me, I think that should be reversed.
The department of justice budget grew over eight hundred percent between 1981 and 2002. Compare that to the department of education, whose budget grew only two hundred eighty five percent.
What is up with that? This too should be reversed.
It costs more to send a person to prison for four years then it does to send a person to a university for four years.
with 1.2 million people getting out of jail, should marijuana become legal, thats 1.2 million under privilaged children, that can have there college education paid for.
At the end of 2001, there were an estimated 1.2 million non violent offenders locked up in America at a cost of more then 24 billion dollars annually.
You have to ask yourself, did these people really do anything to deserve such punishment. These are teenagers, non violent offenders, people cought in there houses, falling asleep to cartoons, stoned crazy, just enjoying a day off work. These are innocent mothers and fathers, and sisters and brothers, and sons and daughters. They did nothing to hurt anyone.
The total cost to taxpayers of marijuana related incarceration reached more then 1.2 billions dollars per year. This does not include the cost of investigating arresting and prosecuting the hundreds of thousands of marijuana users arrested every years.
1.2 million dollars that could be going to education, and medical science, and alternative energy research.
The total number of drug prisoners represented 20.7 percent of the state and 62.2 percent of the federal inmate populations; however the bureau of justice excluded unsentenced inmates and federal prisoners in state and private prisons or state prisoners held in local jails or private facilities.
Once again ask yourself. Do these people deserve prison for there so called "crimes"?
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About 25 billion dollars comes from the illegal marijuana industry today. Thats allot of tax money the USA could be collecting.
Whisper
June 27th, 2007, 01:32 AM
WRONG
Canada came NO WHERE CLOSE to legalizing Marijuana. We came close to decriminalizing it yes, but it still would be illegal. No crime rap sheet, just a fine. I think Canada will legalize it one day, hell Amsterdam has a lower crime rate than the states by...hm....12 times lower?
Also, Marijuana isn't a gateway drug. It's been proven that something along the lines of 2% of all users have moved on to Harder drugs. Also, we'd be cutting off organized crimes main source of profit.
British Columbia alone, makes $6 Billion a year JUST on Marijuana.
The drug industry/organized crime makes 600 billion a year. I think we should turn that into government money.
Okay first of all if you use arrogant txt like that again ima bitch slap ya
second of all we came close to legalising it but that didnt happen
so instead we decriminalized it aka we gutted it we do that to allot of laws we ddont like but cant get rid of
like the Anti-Terrorist Act
Ya B.C does make allot of money off it
I love my home provience soooooo much
its so seeeexy
So basically in BC on the coast anyway you can smoke pot in the open and the GRC's wont do a dam thing, they don't give a dam
if on the other hand they catch you dealing
...they get grumpy
kolte
June 27th, 2007, 01:43 AM
Okay first of all if you use arrogant txt like that again ima bitch slap ya
Contradictory?
My real beef with the laws, and many other, equally disturbing laws, such as making skateboarding illegal in the city *fucking retarded...note, is that pot heads aren't hurting anyone. They aren't causing harm to society, studies show that they hardly even harm themselves. Why make it illegal? Its ideology mixing with politics, a deadly mixture. The political profession is one that should be regarded with objectivity, or without bias.
Whisper
June 27th, 2007, 01:50 AM
Contradictory?
i mean the size
if i remember right you used to get very grumpy about that aswell
Sage
June 27th, 2007, 04:15 AM
In my opinion, it should be legal. If it helps people, good for them. If it harms people, well, let that be a message to others.
kolte
June 27th, 2007, 11:53 AM
i mean the size
if i remember right you used to get very grumpy about that aswell
Oh yes, indeed, I get grumpy all the time. Just remember, tis arrogant to claim to be modest, and modest to say your arrogant.
If it harms people, well, let that be a message to others.
What do you mean by that?
Sage
June 27th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Hmm. Perhaps I worded that too harshly. I should've said..
If it helps some people, good for them. If it hurts some people, well, it'll be something to consider.
serial-thrilla
June 27th, 2007, 08:59 PM
weed should be legal. the only reason that it is illegal is that the government has no way to control it or really make money off it.( if weed was legal everyone would just grow their own, i believe)
kolte
June 27th, 2007, 10:29 PM
weed should be legal. the only reason that it is illegal is that the government has no way to control it or really make money off it.( if weed was legal everyone would just grow their own, i believe)
Not really, weed takes from may to oct, nov. to produce good bud. So it would be way more simple to by a cheap bag from the store. or even a pack of spliffs.
serial-thrilla
June 28th, 2007, 12:49 AM
Not really, weed takes from may to oct, nov. to produce good bud. So it would be way more simple to by a cheap bag from the store. or even a pack of spliffs. trust me its well worth the wait and the work for the vast amounts that you get basically for free.
kolte
June 28th, 2007, 01:38 AM
trust me its well worth the wait and the work for the vast amounts that you get basically for free.
Not saying I wouldnt do it. If it was legal, I'd have a damn hector under the plow, and I'd start selling that shit. And then by more land, and start an industry. muahahahaha *darts under bed with a bundle of books and flashlight. *
theonetheycallbob
June 30th, 2007, 01:34 AM
"powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect {citizens} Safety and Happiness." ~ Decleration of Indpendence
I agree that they should require blood tests, but think about why they are doing it, to protect its citiznes, to keep tainted blood out of the system.
Camazotz
July 7th, 2007, 04:53 PM
No, marajuana kills. It gives only 1 good side effect, to be less threatened by Alzhimer(bad spell).
kolte
July 7th, 2007, 05:43 PM
No, marajuana kills. It gives only 1 good side effect, to be less threatened by Alzhimer(bad spell).
care to back that up or are you just stopping by?
kolte
July 14th, 2007, 03:07 AM
I didn't feel like this was dead to me at least. I want to to live! LIVE I SAY!
ok, so, heres to your health
Cannabis smoke contains carcinogens, but don't let this fool you. Scientific studies have yet to show higher cancer rates in cannabis smokers. In 2006, Donald Tashkin, of the University of California, published a study. He concluded there is no link between smoking cannabis and lung cancer. A sample group of 1200 people with lung, neck, or head cancer; and a group of 1040 without cancer were examined. In conclusion, Tashkin failed to positively correlate a lung cancer risk. “The results indicated a slight negative correlation between long and short-term cannabis use and cancer, suggesting a possible therapeutic effect.†Cellular studies, along with studies in animal models suggest THC encourages programmed cell death of genetically damaged cells that can become cancerous. It can also restrict the blood supply that feeds the tumors. THC is also a dilative agent, perhaps cleaning the lungs by dilating the bronchi and actively reducing the instance of tumors.
crazy stuff. I wrote this after studding some cancer studies relating to marijuana.
Gumleaf
July 16th, 2007, 07:30 AM
well i'll add my 2 bobs worth and say no. by legalising any harmful drug, you open a can of worms that would be hard to close again. illegal drugs are illegal for a reason and thats because they don't offer any good to you. although i think that more should be done to help people addicted to drugs. i know someone who has had a terrible time after being addicted to a illegal drug. at least she is now on the right track and getting better with some professional help.
0=
July 16th, 2007, 07:18 PM
Problem is, marijuana isn't harmful. It has many benefits including relieving headaches and pain. Its negative side effect is a minor case of short term memory loss, but only while the drug is in your system. It's not even physically addictive. Hemp can be used to make cloth, rope, and paper and grows like a weed. Because of this it is a viable alternative to the use of over four million trees a year to make the world's paper, thus reducing deforestation by 35%. Not only that, but it's cheaper to make paper with hemp. Now that we're on the topic of money how about the eleven billion dollars spent yearly on the enforcement of marijuana prohibition? 45% of all drug arrests are for marijuana. Over 30,000 people are in prison for marijuana use, growing, possession, or selling. Our prisons are already overcrowded; prisoners have to sleep wherever there’s floor space. Not only is this a load on our prison system, but it costs taxpayer money to keep people in prison.
Melchi0r
July 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM
My cousin, an expert on marijuana, also tells me that the oils of the hemp plant can be extracted and used in creams for skin care. Not to mention, if marijuana were legalized, it would be safer to smoke it because it'd be easier to get good marijuana.
SaChris
July 17th, 2007, 04:26 AM
ok my two cents now
Humans are adabted and ment to have Cannabis in there system and brain. Unlike Nictonie. Our brains are equiped, everyone, with Cannaboid (spell check ) receptors in our brain and they open and are used when inhaling or eating Cannabis into our bodies, our bodies dont see this is a harmfull Substance.
Besides would you rather see a Vicodin addict hopped on pills, and sometimes depressed cause hes taking so many drugs and still has pain and its horrible on his body.
Or see him lite up a legal marijuana joint , and be good for some hours and still capable of doing things he would sober.
Why is alcohol legal.
People use this DRUG ya its a fucken drug, to drown there sorrows in and depression. well depending on who u r this drug can cause u to commit suicide and usually kill others very easy. behind a wheel or other things u kill or indanger urself anothers. What about cannabis, nope. theres maybe 1 accident in the history of driving on weed because he fell asleep maybe, no cannabis keeps u paranoid NOT TO CRASH when high infact u end up going udner the speed limit like a granny, would u rather see that on the roads or a 90 mph dumbass swurving everywhere.
There is no documented medical history that says Marijuana alone kill the person, or gave the person a heart attack. No where. Theres probably like 2 cases that marijuana led to someone doing a stupid act and killed themselves. Well thats different cause fi we based statistics on that then alcohol would be 50 percent, smoking 49 and marijuana .50 perecnt cause the other .50 is eating habits.
Do some research on legit no goverment proagandae sites. Marijuana is GOOD for ur lungs, its got other chemicals besides THC that give a good coating to ur lungs. That is beneficiery. It doesnt give you heart attacks, or make you stupid. The people ur talking about that you see weed ruined there lives and they look like crap, thats not the weed thats the crack, and heroin and other actually bad and deadly drugs they moved onto cause there dumbasses. Weed dont cost alot and it dosent make u sella ll ur shit for it.
Is cannabis addciting?¿ yes and no, mainly NO its not addicitng like alcohol and nictonie by far, its a yes because hey ur feeling depressed want something to cheer u up so u want a hit. its no as in nictonie and alcohol wheres its like ur in school and ur like NEED WEED NEED WEED!! and u start having withdraw attacks.
Whats the goverments view?
They are slowly beginning to legalize it, its already medically acceptable.
Hell the goverment love marijuana they use the cannabis sativa plant for canvas, other materials, LOTS OF THINGS. Cannabis is the biggest cash crop fo recreational and economical use. Hell we used to be required by law that farmers grow just cannabis crops.
So read before you judge the weed.
Thing is it may not be legalized and it might
Phillip Morris one of the biggest tobacco conglomerates there are. Has a couple acres near the tobacco growing where they grow yse marijauna. Hes ready for when they legalize it.
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