Teenage boy shot for being black [Archive]

Ambrosia

March 27th, 2012, 05:44 PM

Angel Androgynous

March 27th, 2012, 05:44 PM

That's kind of allowed anywhere. Self defense. Whether it was or not, (I doubt it was), it not proven yet. I think they will arrest him eventually and do questioning, but I don't about much more than that unfortunately.

I've heard about Trayvon's case a few weeks ago. Trayvon was just buying skittles and iced tea. When Zimmerman saw him, he called the police and called him "suspicious." The police specifically told him NOT to follow Trayvon, or do anything to him, and yet Zimmerman decided to run after him, and point a gun at a 17 year old's head. One woman called the police as well because she said she heard screaming, and on the calls you could hear Trayvon's screams before a gun silences him. It's proven, they just aren't doing anything about it. It's blatant racism.

Spook

March 27th, 2012, 05:46 PM

Florida's law sucks. Some guy FOLLOWS a kid, and then when the kid is cornered in an alley by the guy, he bolts at him to break through and run away; in the meantime shot by the man? This kid wasn't shot for 'being black,' he was shot for 'being suspicious,' which both require the same amount of arrogance by the shooter. This guy needs to be chained. Neighborhood Nazi's.

@Ambrosia- Blue? Are we speaking of smurf homocide?

Navi

March 27th, 2012, 05:48 PM

So... He was shot for... being black and wearing a hoodie? Out comes the race and profiling cards. I can see the US falling behind the other countries by half a century again and some areas in the States going down the tubes because of what color skin someone has and whatever.
I shouldn't say anything since I don't really know about the case. In fact, not all the details have been released, so opinions shouldn't be too quick to form from anyone. The police department who first handled the case was/is corrupt, so who knows what documents have been screwed around with.

Still, in the end, death is a sad thing, so yes, RIP Trayvon.

Ambrosia

March 27th, 2012, 05:53 PM

If the kid was white, it never would have been in the media. Obama would never have opened is mouth, and the world would have gone on like no shit happened.

Yes. Smurf murder.

Sugaree

March 27th, 2012, 07:34 PM

If the kid was white, it never would have been in the media. Obama would never have opened is mouth, and the world would have gone on like no shit happened.

Yes. Smurf murder.

Fucking thank you. If this was a black guy who shot a white kid, NO ONE would care. And if they did, they'd act like seeking justice for such a crime would be wrong. I feel sorry for Trayvon's parents, I really do, but all this shit surrounding them is a media circus because they're black.

StoppingTime

March 27th, 2012, 07:40 PM

If the kid was white, it never would have been in the media. Obama would never have opened is mouth, and the world would have gone on like no shit happened.

Yes. Smurf murder.

This=OKthankssomuch.

Like I said, I don't think he did anything, but a trial is still needed.
And yes, the bullshit, "If I had a son, he'd look like Treyvon...." said by Obama is just ridiculously unneeded.
If it was a white kid, then it would have just been "boy shot by neighborhood watchman..."

BossHogg

March 27th, 2012, 08:58 PM

TEENAGE BOY SHOT FOR BEING WHITE

Man that is such bull shit it isn't even funny. You never see headliners like that, "Shot for being white". Every day people get shot who are white, asian, blue, yellow, and you don't see that headliner unless the person just so happens to be of African decent (Or something along that color line). Yeah, the man just so happened to not be black, and he shot someone who was black. Well last week a black man shot a white man in the town adjacent to mine, and there wasn't a headliner saying "Man shot for being white".

This bull shit hate crime stuff needs to get over itself. The dude shot a HUMAN BEING. Who cares if he was purple, black, blue, red??? Murder is murder. It doesn't make any difference if he was black. I wish this shit would just stop. Obama needs to get his head out of the fucking clouds too and stop putting his two sense in and stop trying to start a race war.

//end rant
well when there is clear evidence that Trayvon was running for his life and screaming help and the man shot him then it will be big news ok just listen to Trayvon screaming for help :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnqKotpSD0 ohhh and that they only tell news on when blacks are shot by white but they never do it in reverse is a bunch of BULL SH#* because when have your ever heard a black/ minority say ohh i hate white people or a black organization meant to eliminate all blacks and other minorites (KKK) exactly and if your not a minority then you dont understand where we are coming from because you never had to be in our shoes white have never been through hundreds of year being slaves to another race then being sold and killed as a trading industry sooo before you get all up and arms about how they only talk about when something happens to black or minority put yo feet in our shoes, and they always has headlines about white kids gone missing or parents killed them, when was the last time you saw a black child missing on tv, yall have a Amber Alert, theres no, Keesha Alert, no Ricardo Alert, no just AMBER ALERT yea it means anybody but when was the last time you heard the Amber Alert called for a Minority.......hmm...........ohh i will wait...................EXACTLY soo GET TF OUT OF HERE WITH THAT BS!!!!!!

Fucking thank you. If this was a black guy who shot a white kid, NO ONE would care. And if they did, they'd act like seeking justice for such a crime would be wrong. I feel sorry for Trayvon's parents, I really do, but all this shit surrounding them is a media circus because they're black.

In what America do you live in because the cases that blacks do shot whites its for money, food, drugs, and stuff like that NOT because a white guy looks suspicious, and they would have that on National news so dont give me that BS because evertime a black kids goes missing do you hear about it NOOO when a white kid does they call a Amber Alert so stay quiet and let the grown folk talk

---Let's not Double post~Lexi---

Dragon_Droppings

March 27th, 2012, 09:24 PM

And the thing that is really fucked up is that in Florida, if you feel you are being threatened, you are allowed to kill the person you feel is threatening you. In my area, we are doing this thing where we all wear hoodies the whole entire day, because Trayvon was killed because he was wearing a hoodie in a certain neighborhood.

BossHogg

March 27th, 2012, 09:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvCDal8Qqaw&feature=related

A white women testifying enough said!!! Murdoc, Ambrosia, and Killer Wale

Coolboi

March 27th, 2012, 09:37 PM

come on it's America !! were all race an color we need to all get along !
for ever to !!
what happened to trayvon sucks bad !
eye for a eye !
white an for it !!!!!

Jupiter

March 27th, 2012, 10:24 PM

he wasn't shot because he was black....

Mortal Coil

March 27th, 2012, 10:53 PM

Does it matter what would happen in a different situation? Those are all hypotheticals and the fact of the matter is that this boy was murdered. Hate crime or not, it was murder of a child.
This is disgusting.

Magus

March 27th, 2012, 11:27 PM

'communist united states'

Communism ensures racial equality.

'white have
never been through hundreds of year being
slaves to another race then being sold and killed'

They were to Muslims and Arabs at more than three instances in the history.

Sugaree

March 27th, 2012, 11:41 PM

In what America do you live in because the cases that blacks do shot whites its for money, food, drugs, and stuff like that NOT because a white guy looks suspicious, and they would have that on National news so dont give me that BS because evertime a black kids goes missing do you hear about it NOOO when a white kid does they call a Amber Alert so stay quiet and let the grown folk talk

Nice use of punctuation. The point of the matter is that the media has turned this into a racial issue. Black guys shoot white guys all the time, just like white guys shoot other white guys, Asians, etc.. The problem here is that there is a minority of blacks who act like they've been given the short end of the stick and blame the whites for their problems. Here, in the Martin case, you have the Black fucking Panthers getting involved and issuing a warrant on Zimmerman's head. If you tell me that isn't wrong or race related, you're fucked in the head.

Secondly, there are contradicting eye witness reports as to what happened. A report recently from the police said that a woman witnessed Trayvon apparently beating Zimmerman into the ground. In which case, I support Zimmerman in his right of self defense. However, the other witness report, the one which disproves Zimmerman's self defense claim, is much more believable. I'm not going to say I know what really happened that night. The only people who do know are the eye witnesses, and no one else has come forward. This is a simple murder case which could have been kept out of the national media. Now it's a full out racial issue thanks to organizations like the Black Panthers and people like Al Sharpton.

Third, if you think the media just cares about white people getting hurt, you're dead fucking wrong. I see more shit about blacks being assaulted or killed than I do whites. It all factors out to whatever news outlet you go to decides to report and how they report it. If you can prove to me that the media centers on white problems, please go ahead.

The overall problem in this case is the fucking Stand Your Ground law passed by former governor Jeb Bush. It's a law that says if you feel threatened in any situation, and you have a firearm on your person, you are, by law, legally allowed to shoot said threat if need be. Now, this is basic self defense, and I agree that the law does acknowledge that. But it leads to situations like these. We don't know what happened, we probably never will. But when it's dark out and someone is walking towards you, the automatic assumption is something bad is going to happen. It's wrong, yes, but these things do happens. What Zimmerman did by ignoring 911 officials and following Trayvon was wrong because he was intentional profiling. But we're never going to know the full story because of objective views.

Genghis Khan

March 28th, 2012, 03:55 AM

If the kid was white, it never would have been in the media. Obama would never have opened is mouth, and the world would have gone on like no shit happened.

Yes. Smurf murder.

ITT: White people getting butthurt about their own lives while actively ignoring a racial issue that persists even decades after the civil rights movement.

Welcome to communist united states.

What the fuck does this have to do with Communism? Why are you even putting America and Communism in the same sentence? What a stupid thing to say.

Neptune

March 28th, 2012, 04:03 AM

This has been a horrible case to follow. So much hate from both sides. Stupid comments from reporters on FOX News, and, idiots who think they live in the wild west where they can put bounties on people. I'll never understand the New Black Panther Party, ever.

I feel bad for the parents. Must be so hard for them.

Mortal Coil

March 28th, 2012, 05:47 AM

idiots who think they live in the wild west where they can put bounties on people.
Am I a terrible person because I found that funny?

On a more serious note, yeah, the parents must be devastated.

project_icarus

March 28th, 2012, 05:59 AM

Genghis Khan

March 28th, 2012, 06:06 AM

But seriously. Does the media (or anyone) really need to highlight a hate crime (if it is), for the shooting of a black kid? Does it matter if he were white, shot by any other race or nationality? And vice versa goes for that.

The likelihood of the crime being a racially motivated one is reasonably high enough for the media to highlight the possibility. There's nothing wrong with labelling it as race-crime seeing as it was very likely to be racist. Skin colour doesn't matter if a black kid is shot by a white kid when it is clear that the motive of the white kid isn't racial prejudice, but when it is, the media needs to put it forward to raise awareness.

project_icarus

March 28th, 2012, 06:37 AM

The likelihood of the crime being a racially motivated one is reasonably high enough for the media to highlight the possibility. There's nothing wrong with labelling it as race-crime seeing as it was very likely to be racist. Skin colour doesn't matter if a black kid is shot by a white kid when it is clear that the motive of the white kid isn't racial prejudice, but when it is, the media needs to put it forward to raise awareness.

Yes, but once again you wouldn't see a headline "WHITE BOY SHOT FOR BEING WHITE"
You just wouldn't.

Genghis Khan

March 28th, 2012, 01:28 PM

Yes, but once again you wouldn't see a headline "WHITE BOY SHOT FOR BEING WHITE"
You just wouldn't.

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MaximumR

March 28th, 2012, 05:06 PM

^ I'm sorry but that made me laugh

Ambrosia

March 28th, 2012, 05:42 PM

ITT: White people getting butthurt about their own lives while actively ignoring a racial issue that persists even decades after the civil rights movement.

Nonwhite people getting butthurt because we have an think it's retarded.

And at that one kid who for some reason thinks there's a reason to tell me to "get out of here with that bs" listen up, kiddo.

There is, in fact, a black supremecy group. It's called the Purple Panthers (Black Panthers...Can't remember). They are a group of blacks much like the KKK, the only difference is that they are much better organized, better dressed, and don't run around tattooing themselves up retardedly.

If he had been white, no one would give a fuck. Because that's how it is. "OHSHIT HE IS BLACK LETS MAKE IT MEDIA SO WE DON'T SEEM RACIST" THAT is the thought these days.

Coolboi

March 28th, 2012, 06:16 PM

must be time for Jessie jackson and rev: al sharpten if I spelled there names right you all no them ! its time for them to got involved next watch !!!

Jmihas

March 29th, 2012, 08:56 AM

Welcome to the reality.

Ambrosia

March 29th, 2012, 11:08 AM

Welcome to America is more like it.

plebble

March 29th, 2012, 03:20 PM

Was that the real reason though? Or was it that he just happened to be black? :/
Racism is retarded, I don't see what's so different about bloody skin colour!

User_Does Not Exist

March 29th, 2012, 03:25 PM

Were all people... We all have a pulse and 23 chromosomes, I don't see why the issue of racism ever began.

confused65

March 29th, 2012, 03:40 PM

The shooter should be arrested! Im gonna wear my hood up with sunglasses holding a bag of skittles

StoppingTime

March 29th, 2012, 09:58 PM

The shooter should be arrested! Im gonna wear my hood up with sunglasses holding a bag of skittles

Nice job at reading the last two pages of response to this...

This never should have received so much attention (even that of the President making a "interesting" remark about it), and I think people really need to chill about it. He most likely will eventually be questioned, whether he will be prosecuted or not, I think he should, but we don't know.

Jmihas

March 30th, 2012, 05:14 AM

The world is never fair.

Dabigdtc

March 30th, 2012, 11:08 PM

If you want to know why the government isn't making a big out of this is a few reason
1. They can't do anything this is Strickland for the "justice" system is for
2. This kind of thing happens MUCH more then you think

Am not condoning the actions taken place however, there are parents killing there kids for less reason that man had to do what he did. Face it your letting the media control what you see. Look at the bigger picture. Just saying. Still, RIP.

Genghis Khan

March 31st, 2012, 03:57 PM

Nonwhite people getting butthurt because we have an think it's retarded.

What's retarded? That racism being depicted in the media is wrong because you think it should focus on your ethnic background more than one that has had a history of severe persecution. You hold a pretty dumb fucking opinion man. That's all I'm saying. There's several cases like I've easily pointed out in one of my posts where racism against whites (although there isn't much) is published and illustrated, but it's literally a non-issue if you compare it to the lives that certain black people still lead, the subtle persecution that still persists and yet you're here. Seriously, I can't even believe I have to point this out to someone who's a Global Moderator on this site.

Peace God

April 1st, 2012, 11:53 AM

Angel Androgynous

April 1st, 2012, 03:01 PM

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^nigguh u only said dat cuz u iz blak. Go away wiff dat shit. :yeah:

Peace God

April 1st, 2012, 05:31 PM

Cicero

April 1st, 2012, 11:31 PM

Welcome to communist united states. The government doesnt give a fuck even with a black president. I thinkits wrong and should be justified but it probally wont.

Actually the law is doing a lot for this case. Probably because he was black like Obama. In fact Obama has said that if he had a son. He would think he'd be like Trayvon. Please get your facts right...

Genghis Khan

April 2nd, 2012, 02:41 AM

Lol Ida. U rite tho, sorry for my whiny black person tangent guys. Forget Trayvon, I was distracting from the true issue here...how hard white people have it in this country. Dios mio, no puedo.*throws papers in the air and walks out*

Yeah man white people are a really persecuted minority, they've been segregated for centuries, exposed to slavery, injustice and lynching. How could all of these people be so heartless and focus on that black kid when it probably wasn't even racially motivated! Why? Cos white people killing blacks is more common in the media! Racism! That's all it is. Hurrr I'm white please recognise this and to get your attention I'm going to post a lot of pictures of my brave, persecuted people:

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Amaryllis

April 2nd, 2012, 05:16 AM

Welcome to communist united states.
Actually, it's democratic.

The government doesnt give a fuck even with a black president. I thinkits wrong and should be justified but it probally wont.
You blame his faults on his skin?

Communism ensures racial equality.
Bullshit. Communism is an ideal that's most like never going to work. Seeing as it ends up becoming dictatorship. If you had one bowl of rice and 500,000 people, you should/would save it for yourself and perhaps a few others. Then at least you'd live, 1 bowl of rice wasn't going to fill 500,000 stomachs, anyway.

he wasn't shot because he was black....
Does it matter whether or not he was shot for his race? The fact is he was killed. Unless it was a matter of self defence, the reason matters as much as his hairstyle.

Charge him like you would any other person who'd shot someone. Be it because he was white, black, pink or blue. Because he wore a funky pair of jeans or tried to rob a store. Assuming Trayvon Martin was unarmed and Zimmerman was not being assaulted, Zimmerman should be arrested whatever his reasons were.

Race shouldn't be taken into account at all.

Genghis Khan

April 2nd, 2012, 05:51 AM

Bullshit. Communism is an ideal that's most like never going to work. Seeing as it ends up becoming dictatorship. If you had one bowl of rice and 500,000 people, you should/would save it for yourself and perhaps a few others. Then at least you'd live, 1 bowl of rice wasn't going to fill 500,000 stomachs, anyway.

I see socialism/communism as the economic system hundreds of years from now, sympathy and selflessness is promoted whereas selfishness is discouraged. At one point there will be no state or vanguard/representative body, there will just be the people willing to work for the common good.

Does it matter whether or not he was shot for his race? The fact is he was killed. Unless it was a matter of self defence, the reason matters as much as his hairstyle.

Charge him like you would any other person who'd shot someone. Be it because he was white, black, pink or blue. Because he wore a funky pair of jeans or tried to rob a store. Assuming Trayvon Martin was unarmed and Zimmerman was not being assaulted, Zimmerman should be arrested whatever his reasons were.

Race shouldn't be taken into account at all.

Actually considering that crimes like these against African-Americans possess historical embodiment and a deeper meaning it does matter. If a crime is racially motivated, then it makes sense to take into account racial instability and what can be done to prevent it. Similarly if a crime is committed to fulfil a religious agenda then appropriate measures need to be taken and the issue should be addressed. I mean, you kind of have to consider that America has a history of black persecution and when you see the problem still persisting you don't just sit back and say 'well race doesn't matter, hurray equality!' because you're not helping by doing that, you're just ignoring the real problem.

Peace God

April 2nd, 2012, 11:19 PM

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Amaryllis

April 3rd, 2012, 05:12 AM

I see socialism/communism as the economic system hundreds of years from now, sympathy and selflessness is promoted whereas selfishness is discouraged. At one point there will be no state or vanguard/representative body, there will just be the people willing to work for the common good.
It's never going to happen unless humans morph into something else somewhere along the line. We're motivated my greed, fear and laziness. Count the number of people who would truly die for you. If you can fill all fingers, you're doing very well in life.

We've seen how well communism's worked before. Be honest. What are the likelihoods of people working their asses off if they're going to get money from the community, anyway? Do you truly believe people will be happy to give away their possessions for the "greater good"?

Actually considering that crimes like these against African-Americans possess historical embodiment and a deeper meaning it does matter. If a crime is racially motivated, then it makes sense to take into account racial instability and what can be done to prevent it. Similarly if a crime is committed to fulfil a religious agenda then appropriate measures need to be taken and the issue should be addressed. I mean, you kind of have to consider that America has a history of black persecution and when you see the problem still persisting you don't just sit back and say 'well race doesn't matter, hurray equality!' because you're not helping by doing that, you're just ignoring the real problem.
Because everyone's always listened to the government.

Equal opportunity is all anyone can offer. Equal outcome cannot be promised. African-americans have been given the exact same rights (unless I am mistaken, in that case, I apologise for my ignorance,) but it is difficult to control the population.

Agreed, racism exists, I go to an international school. I've grown up around racism and it pisses me off. I've been rejected for not being pale enough, tall enough, white-looking enough. Been rejected for being too rich, too poor. My relatives disapprove of my black best friend.

Laws have been passed to ensure everyone has equal opportunity, regardless of skin colour. What else do you want them to do? Even if this kid was shot for being black, what else can you do? Teach the people to not be racist? No one's ignoring the problems but we are all divided.

We say "we" and "them," I say "us" and "you."

Equality is a dream for we are not all equal. For true equality would mean we'd have to dye everyone silver, strip military officials of their titles, take kids like me out of the elite private schools, ruin the hair of everyone with good hair, chop off some people's limbs so we're on equal standing with the people with disabilities, make everyone wear black contact lenses and so on.

Equality is an illusion and equal outcome is not a guarantee.

Genghis Khan

April 3rd, 2012, 06:33 AM

It's never going to happen unless humans morph into something else somewhere along the line. We're motivated my greed, fear and laziness. Count the number of people who would truly die for you. If you can fill all fingers, you're doing very well in life.

We're also the most empathic species to date. There isn't a single species of animal that wants to preserve other different species from extinction just because they think it'd be cruel to not take responsibility. We are soft-wired with mirror neurons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g) that help us understand each other, so when we observe someone having an experience we are able to put ourselves in that position and empathise.

I think as time goes by we'll be encouraged to be increasingly more selfless because selfishness is mostly discouraged. This evolutionary process will chronically lead us to be ready to work for the common good of society. I mean this isn't in any way pragmatic or empirical this is just my opinion.

We've seen how well communism's worked before. Be honest. What are the likelihoods of people working their asses off if they're going to get money from the community, anyway? Do you truly believe people will be happy to give away their possessions for the "greater good"?

Communism differs from Stalinism and Lenninism. Both of these ideologies were right-wing deviations of traditional communism. I don't think the Soviet Union or China's rule under the dictator Mao is an accurate representation of a communist system. Plus the system didn't fall because people weren't ready to work for the common good, it fell because they were exploited. Especially labourers in the agricultural sector, it was almost wage slavery. Not to mention the war lost in Afghanistan and the break up of the Soviet states into what are now Eastern European countries and Mongolia.

It's far-fetched to say that communism fails because the Soviet Union failed.

Because everyone's always listened to the government.

Equal opportunity is all anyone can offer. Equal outcome cannot be promised. African-americans have been given the exact same rights (unless I am mistaken, in that case, I apologise for my ignorance,) but it is difficult to control the population.

Laws have been passed to ensure everyone has equal opportunity, regardless of skin colour. What else do you want them to do? Even if this kid was shot for being black, what else can you do? Teach the people to not be racist? No one's ignoring the problems but we are all divided.

Equality is an illusion and equal outcome is not a guarantee.

I've edited out parts of your post to points I can actually address, and from what I understand the gist of what you're saying is that inequality will exist regardless of implementation. Well, yes... that's true. But that shouldn't stop people from addressing the issue when it exists and it has been persisting for decades after the Civil Rights Movement. I think you can gain a relatively more positive outcome by pointing out the problem where it happens and raise further awareness to systematically inform people that this won't be tolerated, rather than have the media ignore it and say 'well this issue will exist regardless'.

With the exception of how we've evolved and still possess innate characteristics that aren't in congruence with society we are still evolving. My entire point here is one can work towards a desired outcome just by behaviourisms, the behaviour that's encouraged will be seen as beneficial and carried on, the views that are disadvantageous and don't hold a lot of credibility will be systematically wiped out (not completely in a practical sense, but theoretically).

Peace God

April 3rd, 2012, 10:51 AM

Equal opportunity is all anyone can offer. Equal outcome cannot be promised. African-americans have been given the exact same rights (unless I am mistaken, in that case, I apologise for my ignorance,) but it is difficult to control the population.
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Ambrosia

April 3rd, 2012, 11:27 AM

So NOW, if we want to discuss the poor segregation of white folks in this world, create a new thread about it. This is a thread about a kid getting shit, and how everyone views it. This past page has gone way out of context. :) Please and thank ya sirs/misses.

Peace God

April 3rd, 2012, 11:42 AM

So NOW, if we want to discuss the poor segregation of white folks in this world, create a new thread about it. This is a thread about a kid getting shit, and how everyone views it.
Oh wow you got the message. Thanks.

FojeJC

April 3rd, 2012, 12:43 PM

Eh it happens, life goes on...

BossHogg

April 6th, 2012, 09:26 AM

Nice use of punctuation. The point of the matter is that the media has turned this into a racial issue. Black guys shoot white guys all the time, just like white guys shoot other white guys, Asians, etc.. The problem here is that there is a minority of blacks who act like they've been given the short end of the stick and blame the whites for their problems. Here, in the Martin case, you have the Black fucking Panthers getting involved and issuing a warrant on Zimmerman's head. If you tell me that isn't wrong or race related, you're fucked in the head.

Secondly, there are contradicting eye witness reports as to what happened. A report recently from the police said that a woman witnessed Trayvon apparently beating Zimmerman into the ground. In which case, I support Zimmerman in his right of self defense. However, the other witness report, the one which disproves Zimmerman's self defense claim, is much more believable. I'm not going to say I know what really happened that night. The only people who do know are the eye witnesses, and no one else has come forward. This is a simple murder case which could have been kept out of the national media. Now it's a full out racial issue thanks to organizations like the Black Panthers and people like Al Sharpton.

Third, if you think the media just cares about white people getting hurt, you're dead fucking wrong. I see more shit about blacks being assaulted or killed than I do whites. It all factors out to whatever news outlet you go to decides to report and how they report it. If you can prove to me that the media centers on white problems, please go ahead.

The overall problem in this case is the fucking Stand Your Ground law passed by former governor Jeb Bush. It's a law that says if you feel threatened in any situation, and you have a firearm on your person, you are, by law, legally allowed to shoot said threat if need be. Now, this is basic self defense, and I agree that the law does acknowledge that. But it leads to situations like these. We don't know what happened, we probably never will. But when it's dark out and someone is walking towards you, the automatic assumption is something bad is going to happen. It's wrong, yes, but these things do happens. What Zimmerman did by ignoring 911 officials and following Trayvon was wrong because he was intentional profiling. But we're never going to know the full story because of objective views.

Well all im saying is that Yes when something bad happens to a black person it is blown out of proportion because its been 47 years since MLK Jr. was shot and the whole segregation era so you would think that racism and profiling should be long gone but its not thats why when this happened people was like WTF why is this STILL happening, I believe that as long as we live there will be racism and i dont think it will ever end, but people arguing over why and how he died isnt going to bring him back, so in respect of Him and his family I just want to say Im sorry for his death and im am continuing to pray for him and his family and everbody!

[QUOTE=Angel Androgynous;1672907]^nigguh u only said dat cuz u iz blak. Go away wiff dat shit. :yeah:[/QUOTE
Whoa there "Im Black" and I dont even like to say the "N" word so dont use it, if you dont know what it means, and i mean the REAL meaning of it not the slang version so please EVERYBOY,....especially blacks stop using the N word thank you :)

Professional Russian

April 6th, 2012, 09:42 AM

[QUOTE=Angel Androgynous;1672907]^nigguh u only said dat cuz u iz blak. Go away wiff dat shit. :yeah:[/QUOTE
Whoa there "Im Black" and I dont even like to say the "N" word so dont use it, if you dont know what it means, and i mean the REAL meaning of it not the slang version so please EVERYBOY,....especially blacks stop using the N word thank you :)

First of all it was a sarcastic comment happens all the time.

second. The kid was out at 11 o,clock at night. He was arrested prior to this incident with possetion of illegal drugs and intention to distribute. Bullshit he was out at 11 to get tea and skittles

StoppingTime

April 6th, 2012, 09:54 AM

Professional Russian

April 6th, 2012, 09:55 AM

[QUOTE=Professional Russian;1678026]

They checked his bag.

But Prior to that he was arrested. before this actually happened he was arrested. and bye the time he got eveything done he probally already sold it

Truth

April 6th, 2012, 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=BossHogg;1678005]

First of all it was a sarcastic comment happens all the time.

second. The kid was out at 11 o,clock at night. He was arrested prior to this incident with possetion of illegal drugs and intention to distribute. Bullshit he was out at 11 to get tea and skittles This incident happened in the day time far from 11PM, Travyon had no drugs on him, no history of drug usage, no intent to distribute something he never had, was holding a paid for ice tea + skittles, and had expressed fear of zimmerman to his girlfriend while he was being followed.

This is simply a case where Zimmerman believed that he was an authority figure, who should be able to confront anyone who looks "suspicious" and follow them. He thought it was okay to shoot Travyon when he reacted, rather than explaining things to him.

Once again, Travyon had no drugs at all. Stop spreading the rumors the police force started. A few years ago he was suspended for an EMPTY marijuana baggy, that is his only crime on record. Tell me why you are allowed to judge someone for something they may or may not have done 3+ years ago?

Professional Russian

April 6th, 2012, 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=Professional Russian;1678026] This happened in the day time, Travyon had no drugs on him, no intent to distribute something he never had, was holding a paid for ice tea + skittles, and had expressed fear of zimmerman to his girlfriend while he was being followed.

This is simply a case where Zimmerman believed that he was an authority figure, who should be able to confront anyone who looks "suspicious" and follow them. He thought it was okay to shoot Travyon when he reacted, rather than explaining things to him.

Once again, Travyon had no drugs at all. Stop spreading the rumors the police force started.

Im not saying he had drugs on him. Im saying that he was cought with drugs before this happened days or weeks before. he was charged with possesion of illegal substances and intent to distribute. now form what ive heard it happened at 11 o,clock at night. He wasnt just buying tea and skittles he was selling drugs. nearly guarantee it

Truth

April 6th, 2012, 12:43 PM

[QUOTE=Truth;1678171]

Im not saying he had drugs on him. Im saying that he was cought with drugs before this happened days or weeks before. he was charged with possesion of illegal substances and intent to distribute. now form what ive heard it happened at 11 o,clock at night. He wasnt just buying tea and skittles he was selling drugs. nearly guarantee it He was not charged with possession of drugs, you are completely incorrect. He was charged for having an EMPTY marijuana baggie in his backpack. That means, any old baggie that has residue. Does not mean he ever put marijuana into the baggy himself, and it happened in school - so anyone could have put it in his bag.

He did not have drugs, he did not do drugs, he did not sell drugs, he did not steal, he was suspected of these crimes and killed before a fair trial to determine the legitimacy of these offences, meaning that Zimmerman knew he was innocent but felt a reason to pull the trigger after following him around for hours anyhow.

Professional Russian

April 6th, 2012, 12:45 PM

[QUOTE=Professional Russian;1678176] He was not charged with possession of drugs, you are completely incorrect. He was charged for having an EMPTY marijuana baggie in his backpack. That means, any old baggie that has residue. Does not mean he ever put marijuana into the baggy himself, and it happened in school - so anyone could have put it in his bag.

He did not have drugs, he did not do drugs, he did not sell drugs, he did not steal, he was suspected of these crimes and killed before a fair trial to determine the legitimacy of these offences, meaning that Zimmerman knew he was innocent but felt a reason to pull the trigger after following him around for hours anyhow.

The guy shot knows a good movie then. Dirty harry always says "shoot first ask questions later. but when later comes...oh wait there wont be a later"

Aside from movies. The kid was out at 11 o,clock at night. and you really think hes just buying tea and skittles?

Truth

April 6th, 2012, 01:25 PM

[QUOTE=Truth;1678179]

The guy shot knows a good movie then. Dirty harry always says "shoot first ask questions later. but when later comes...oh wait there wont be a later"

Aside from movies. The kid was out at 11 o,clock at night. and you really think hes just buying tea and skittles? I go out at 11 o' clock. To work, to meet friends, to shop.... you must be an old man to think 11 is late at night.

You are incorrect, ignore the facts, spread propaganda, and as a result you seem a little ignorant.

Professional Russian

April 6th, 2012, 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=Professional Russian;1678182] I go out at 11 o' clock. To work, to meet friends, to shop.... you must be an old man to think 11 is late at night.

You are incorrect, ignore the facts, spread propaganda, and as a result you seem a little ignorant.

11:00 at night is late to go get fucking tea and skittles. If i was dealing drugs it would be that late so no one saw it. The tea and skittles are a cover up for what really happened. Im not saying the shooting was justified but out at 11 o'clock thats pretty fucking late. I wouldnt leave home with out a gun at 11 hell i never leave home with out haveing some sort of weapon.

Sugaree

April 6th, 2012, 02:00 PM

He was not charged with possession of drugs, you are completely incorrect. He was charged for having an EMPTY marijuana baggie in his backpack. That means, any old baggie that has residue. Does not mean he ever put marijuana into the baggy himself, and it happened in school - so anyone could have put it in his bag.

Except Trayvon was suspended from school three times and only one of those times was for marijuana. Someone from the /pol/ board on 4chan actually was able to hack into Trayvon's Facebook and Twitter accounts, giving screenshots of status updates and tweets which directly relate to Trayvon doping. A day after that, the status' were taken down. There were also email conversations between Trayvon and one of his friends about getting high (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/white-supremacist-trayvon-martin-email_n_1389584.html).

Oh, and don't forget about those pictures of him acting like a big fucking badass flipping off the camera and holding a shitload of money in his hand.

11:00 at night is late to go get fucking tea and skittles. If i was dealing drugs it would be that late so no one saw it. The tea and skittles are a cover up for what really happened. Im not saying the shooting was justified but out at 11 o'clock thats pretty fucking late. I wouldnt leave home with out a gun at 11 hell i never leave home with out haveing some sort of weapon.

It's not a cover up to what happened. The story checked out. Trayvon went to the store to get a bag of Skittles for his little brother and an ice tea for himself. It was where he was walking and his body language which is what led Zimmerman to suspect he was up to trouble.

After seeing the enhanced security footage from the police station, I support Zimmerman's right to self defense. He obviously had a large wound on the back of his head which could only be caused if his head was rammed against something hard (i.e, concrete). But, from what the 9-1-1 call tells us, it appears that he DID hunt Trayvon down. The screams indicate that Trayvon was most likely held at gun point, most likely tackled and then held down with a gun in his face. If this is true, then Zimmerman is guilty of first degree murder. If not, then he is guilty of manslaughter.

Professional Russian

April 6th, 2012, 02:38 PM

Sugaree

April 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM

My case is closed. I still dont believe he went to get tea and skittles at 11 o'clock though

How? The items were found at the scene on his body. The store clerk says Trayvon came in to buy the items and then left. How the hell do you not believe this?

Truth

April 6th, 2012, 03:53 PM

Except Trayvon was suspended from school three times and only one of those times was for marijuana. Someone from the /pol/ board on 4chan actually was able to hack into Trayvon's Facebook and Twitter accounts, giving screenshots of status updates and tweets which directly relate to Trayvon doping. A day after that, the status' were taken down. There were also email conversations between Trayvon and one of his friends about getting high (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/white-supremacist-trayvon-martin-email_n_1389584.html).

Oh, and don't forget about those pictures of him acting like a big fucking badass flipping off the camera and holding a shitload of money in his hand.

It's not a cover up to what happened. The story checked out. Trayvon went to the store to get a bag of Skittles for his little brother and an ice tea for himself. It was where he was walking and his body language which is what led Zimmerman to suspect he was up to trouble.

After seeing the enhanced security footage from the police station, I support Zimmerman's right to self defense. He obviously had a large wound on the back of his head which could only be caused if his head was rammed against something hard (i.e, concrete). But, from what the 9-1-1 call tells us, it appears that he DID hunt Trayvon down. The screams indicate that Trayvon was most likely held at gun point, most likely tackled and then held down with a gun in his face. If this is true, then Zimmerman is guilty of first degree murder. If not, then he is guilty of manslaughter. I smoke weed on a daily basis. Tell me why this is such a big deal? Why should an individual be judged for their choice of using a harmless substance?

Secondly, it's ridiculous that Zimmerman hunted and followed Travyon. That in itself is against the law, so the scenario that was created was completely Zimmerman's fault.

11:00 at night is late to go get fucking tea and skittles. If i was dealing drugs it would be that late so no one saw it. The tea and skittles are a cover up for what really happened. Im not saying the shooting was justified but out at 11 o'clock thats pretty fucking late. I wouldnt leave home with out a gun at 11 hell i never leave home with out haveing some sort of weapon. You're definitely an old man or just ignorant. I go out on a weekly basis past 11PM, hell me and my friends leave for a store at 12am pretty often, and I'm not out "dealing drugs". Some people aren't lazy and actually walk to a store, I know that concept is very hard to understand though. It was no "cover up", he was not "dealing drugs", and you sound like an ignorant 12 year old who has no idea about anything in the real world. You would take a gun out? At 11PM? You do know that's illegal right? Oh well, violent crime are OK! It's just ones involving marijuana that are wrong.. haha.

MrSwift413

April 6th, 2012, 04:07 PM

I dont agree with this.

Sugaree

April 6th, 2012, 05:17 PM

I smoke weed on a daily basis. Tell me why this is such a big deal? Why should an individual be judged for their choice of using a harmless substance?

I never said it was a big deal. However, you made the insinuation that Martin never smoked weed at all in his life. But from the screen captures that were acquired from Trayvon's Twitter and Facebook accounts, he was obviously smoking it. Here's what you said:

He did not have drugs, he did not do drugs, he did not sell drugs, he did not steal.

He may not have sold (for all we know), but he certainly did smoke weed.

Truth

April 6th, 2012, 05:42 PM

I never said it was a big deal. However, you made the insinuation that Martin never smoked weed at all in his life. But from the screen captures that were acquired from Trayvon's Twitter and Facebook accounts, he was obviously smoking it. Here's what you said:

He may not have sold (for all we know), but he certainly did smoke weed. That is not solid enough proof to make the claim, "He sold marijuana". None of that could be used in a court of law to prove anything, it's nothing more than heresay and rumor, very possibly fake as well. Not to mention the fact whether or not he used marijuana is completely irrelevant to this entire case, as Zimmerman suspected him of theft, a different crime. (Does not justify stalking)

Lots of kids I know tell me how they smoke weed all of the time, yet I know for a fact none of them have the guts to go around the stuff. It is not absolute evidence of anything. The only truthful statement you could say is "There is a chance Travyon smoked weed." :yawn:

One fact: Travyon's records should not have been discussed publicly by police to ruin his image
Another fact: The media is making a big deal out of his marijuana usage to provide reason for his unnesecary death
Last fact: Smoking weed should not be an illegal activity, frowning upon the usage just shows ignorance.

Professional Russian

April 7th, 2012, 06:48 PM

That is not solid enough proof to make the claim, "He sold marijuana". None of that could be used in a court of law to prove anything, it's nothing more than heresay and rumor, very possibly fake as well. Not to mention the fact whether or not he used marijuana is completely irrelevant to this entire case, as Zimmerman suspected him of theft, a different crime. (Does not justify stalking)

Lots of kids I know tell me how they smoke weed all of the time, yet I know for a fact none of them have the guts to go around the stuff. It is not absolute evidence of anything. The only truthful statement you could say is "There is a chance Travyon smoked weed." :yawn:

One fact: Travyon's records should not have been discussed publicly by police to ruin his image
Another fact: The media is making a big deal out of his marijuana usage to provide reason for his unnesecary death
Last fact: Smoking weed should not be an illegal activity, frowning upon the usage just shows ignorance.

No its a proven fucking fact he was doing weed and he had the intent to distribute it.

I smoke weed on a daily basis. Tell me why this is such a big deal? Why should an individual be judged for their choice of using a harmless substance?

Secondly, it's ridiculous that Zimmerman hunted and followed Travyon. That in itself is against the law, so the scenario that was created was completely Zimmerman's fault.

You're definitely an old man or just ignorant. I go out on a weekly basis past 11PM, hell me and my friends leave for a store at 12am pretty often, and I'm not out "dealing drugs". Some people aren't lazy and actually walk to a store, I know that concept is very hard to understand though. It was no "cover up", he was not "dealing drugs", and you sound like an ignorant 12 year old who has no idea about anything in the real world. You would take a gun out? At 11PM? You do know that's illegal right? Oh well, violent crime are OK! It's just ones involving marijuana that are wrong.. haha.

Im not old and i dont consider my self ignorant. Where i live there is not one person out after 10. And i never said i take a gun out if i do. I can kill you 19 ways with a paperclip,Stab you with a pen, Snap your neck with my bare hands. choke you with a garrat wire. and if i do go out that at night i usally do have a gun because im usally with my dad who has a license to carry a gun anywhere in this country he wants as long as its concealed. and he always has atleast 2. 1 for me and 1 for him.

Truth

April 7th, 2012, 11:30 PM

No its a proven fucking fact he was doing weed and he had the intent to distribute it.

Im not old and i dont consider my self ignorant. Where i live there is not one person out after 10. And i never said i take a gun out if i do. I can kill you 19 ways with a paperclip,Stab you with a pen, Snap your neck with my bare hands. choke you with a garrat wire. and if i do go out that at night i usally do have a gun because im usally with my dad who has a license to carry a gun anywhere in this country he wants as long as its concealed. and he always has atleast 2. 1 for me and 1 for him. Proven fact? Okay, show me proof. Oh wait, you have absolutely no proof!

You are ignorant. Who cares how it is where you live? In normal suburban towns everyone is out late at night. Stop being so closed-minded, think of things from a different cultural area's perspective, just because it's weird where you live means absolutely nothing in a different enviroment.

You kill me? Hahahahahahaha. I could try to defend my "honor", but then I'd look like nothing more than a internet-badass, and no one likes those people. Especially if that's you in your picture... if that's the case, I have no words for your empty threat.

Destructive Impulse

April 8th, 2012, 04:17 AM

It's the goddamn stand your ground act. It fuckin gave the guy an excuse to shoot the kid. He somehow felt threatened (I believe it's total bullshit but whatever) and the act gives him permission to use violence. Needs to be fucking repelled you know.

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 06:31 AM

Proven fact? Okay, show me proof. Oh wait, you have absolutely no proof!

You are ignorant. Who cares how it is where you live? In normal suburban towns everyone is out late at night. Stop being so closed-minded, think of things from a different cultural area's perspective, just because it's weird where you live means absolutely nothing in a different enviroment.

You kill me? Hahahahahahaha. I could try to defend my "honor", but then I'd look like nothing more than a internet-badass, and no one likes those people. Especially if that's you in your picture... if that's the case, I have no words for your empty threat.

Jesus fucking christ. He was cought with fucking drug fucking iintent to deliver. Is that not enough fucking proof for? There were also conversations between him and his friend about drugs. And your telling me theres no fucking proof? You have to be the biggest dumbass i have ever seen in nmy fucking lif.

Truth

April 8th, 2012, 10:36 AM

Jesus fucking christ. He was cought with fucking drug fucking iintent to deliver. Is that not enough fucking proof for? There were also conversations between him and his friend about drugs. And your telling me theres no fucking proof? You have to be the biggest dumbass i have ever seen in nmy fucking lif. You have provided me with no proof, you have provided me with your false propaganda text, with absolutely nothing backing it up. Rumors aren't proof, you seem to have a very poor understanding of the word.

In fact, no mainstream news station has even bothered to broadcast the bold statement that he was charged with drug possession with intent to sell. Do you know why? Because it's a rumor, it's heresay, and has no legitimacy in the real world - it would just be bad journalism.

embers

April 8th, 2012, 11:17 AM

Alright both of you are getting out of hand - this thread doesn't exist for the both of you to insult the other's 'pride' and capabilities. Both of you have been here long enough to know the rules on flaming and if either of you carry on as you're doing, your posts will be removed and you will be infracted.

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 11:50 AM

he had received three suspensions -- for tardiness, for graffiti and, most recently, for having a baggie with a trace of marijuana in his backpack. ^Proof of drugs

He told a local Orlando news station that George was reaching for his cellphone when Trayvon punched him ^Self defense allowed here

However it started, witnesses described to the 911 dispatcher what resulted: the neighborhood watch coordinator, 5-foot-9 and 170 pounds, and the visitor, 6-foot-1 and 150, wrestling on the ground. ^More self defense allowed

Trayvon was on top, punching and slamming his head into the paved sidewalk. When nobody answered his calls for help, he tried to slide onto the grass. But in doing so, the holstered gun in his waistband became visible. ^Self Defense allowed here and it was used

"It is a little bit cloudy," the father said. "But George believes Trayvon saw the pistol, was going to get it, and said: 'You are going to die tonight.' Shortly after that, George drew the pistol and shot him." ^If someone says too me your going to die tonight while they have me on the ground. Im gonna kill them too

, the police took many photographs of his injuries. His father said that he had a broken nose, a swollen and cut lower lip, and two cuts on the back of his head. ^It was in self defense. he was injured so it was justifyed

Source (http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/12093/1221133-84.stm)

Truth

April 8th, 2012, 12:07 PM

^Proof of drugs

^Self defense allowed here

^More self defense allowed

^Self Defense allowed here and it was used

^If someone says too me your going to die tonight while they have me on the ground. Im gonna kill them too

^It was in self defense. he was injured so it was justifyed

Source (http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/12093/1221133-84.stm) Not proof of drugs, could have been handed to him by a random person and he could have been oblivious. How does this proof he was distributing it by the way? You're making false claims you know aren't true.
After hunting Travyon for hours late at night, inside of a vehicle, and having a gun visible - was Travyon not supposed to punch him? This man was no police officer, and he did not identify himself, he simply stalked Travyon.
There was no proof of them on the ground wrestling.
Zimmerman did not go to the doctors or hospital after this incident. Any of his so called "injuries" were so minor they did not cause him short-term damage of enough concern to visit a doctor, yet he needed to use lethal force on this teen?
It was not justified, it is not legal to stalk someone, approach them late at night with a weapon, and then reach for your gun (it was not his cellphone he was reaching for, in travyon's mind. there's also no proof he was not reaching for his gun.)

At the moderator, I am simply arguing about whether or not Russian's claims of Travyon being a drug dealer are correct or not. He did not need to threaten to kill me over an internet argument, haha.

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 12:19 PM

Not proof of drugs, could have been handed to him by a random person and he could have been oblivious. How does this proof he was distributing it by the way? You're making false claims you know aren't true.
After hunting Travyon for hours late at night, inside of a vehicle, and having a gun visible - was Travyon not supposed to punch him? This man was no police officer, and he did not identify himself, he simply stalked Travyon.
There was no proof of them on the ground wrestling.
Zimmerman did not go to the doctors or hospital after this incident. Any of his so called "injuries" were so minor they did not cause him short-term damage of enough concern to visit a doctor, yet he needed to use lethal force on this teen?
It was not justified, it is not legal to stalk someone, approach them late at night with a weapon, and then reach for your gun (it was not his cellphone he was reaching for, in travyon's mind. there's also no proof he was not reaching for his gun.)

At the moderator, I am simply arguing about whether or not Russian's claims of Travyon being a drug dealer are correct or not. He did not need to threaten to kill me over an internet argument, haha.

HE had drugs in his fucking back. You have got to be retarded not to figure out he doing them especially when they had screen shots of conversations with his friends. There were eye witnesses about the wrestling him. He did not stalk him. He was making rounds and saw him. Then followed him because he looked suspicious. he then confronted then got punched which led to a fight. as they were fighting the guy used his knoweldge of the law and used self defense. It was also raining and dark so you wouldnt be able to tell if the kid was armed or not. And sachal i wasnt threatening to kill him it was example purposes. Dont worry. And i never claimed he was a drug dealer. I said he could of been selling or buying them. never claimed he was a drug dealer

StoppingTime

April 8th, 2012, 12:22 PM

Jesus fucking christ. He was cought with fucking drug fucking iintent to deliver.

HE had drugs in his fucking back. You have got to be retarded not to figure out he doing them especially when they had screen shots of conversations with his friends.

You did actually.

Regardless, how would Zimmerman know he had done drugs? They were not found in his bag when his body was found, so that is out of the question.
It really wouldn't matter anyway, because not everyone who has smoked anything is automatically suspicious.

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 12:25 PM

This guy seemed to be up to no good; like he was on drugs or something
sounds like he was on something

StoppingTime

April 8th, 2012, 12:28 PM

All he did was see Trayvon, and then he thinks he's up to no good? How does that mean that he was on drugs at the time? Which, once again, doesn't mean he should feel threatened by him.

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 12:31 PM

All he did was see Trayvon, and then he thinks he's up to no good? How does that mean that he was on drugs at the time? Which, once again, doesn't mean he should feel threatened by him.

well there was no proof to wether he was on drugs or not but in the dark and rain with a hood up you look pretty suspicious. i wouldnt feel threatened but i would be pretty creeped out

Commander Thor

April 8th, 2012, 12:31 PM

Guys, watch the language, and watch the name calling.
If this turns into a bashfest I will lock it, and I will hand infractions out.

StoppingTime

April 8th, 2012, 12:32 PM

well there was no proof to wether he was on drugs or not but in the dark and rain with a hood up you look pretty suspicious. i wouldnt feel threatened but i would be pretty creeped out

Why? Maybe he just went to go get skittles and iced tea from a gas station.
Wait....

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 12:37 PM

Guys, watch the language, and watch the name calling.
If this turns into a bashfest I will lock it, and I will hand infractions out.

Sachal already said this but i guess 2 is better than 1

Why? Maybe he just went to go get skittles and iced tea from a gas station.
Wait....

I quit im just done argueing over something that has been proven

Truth

April 8th, 2012, 04:00 PM

HE had drugs in his fucking back. You have got to be retarded not to figure out he doing them especially when they had screen shots of conversations with his friends. There were eye witnesses about the wrestling him. He did not stalk him. He was making rounds and saw him. Then followed him because he looked suspicious. he then confronted then got punched which led to a fight. as they were fighting the guy used his knoweldge of the law and used self defense. It was also raining and dark so you wouldnt be able to tell if the kid was armed or not. And sachal i wasnt threatening to kill him it was example purposes. Dont worry. And i never claimed he was a drug dealer. I said he could of been selling or buying them. never claimed he was a drug dealer Prove it! How the heck is anything you write proof, it does not include police reports, pictures, videos, voice analysis, witness reports, etc... it's just you talking!

Yesterday professional Russian was caught by his local police force with a backpack full of illegal narcotics, in little packages near the local high school. They believe he was up to no good and had an intent to distribute these narcotics to the school children, and is currently being held in prison with a $50,000 bail.

^ How do we know that's not true if by your logic, all that is needed for something to be proven is a rumor from a single person on a forum? :yeah:

well there was no proof to wether he was on drugs or not but in the dark and rain with a hood up you look pretty suspicious. i wouldnt feel threatened but i would be pretty creeped out I walk around with my hoody on at night. There's no proof it was raining during this incident. Stop generalizing and forcing your idea of "normal" on areas that are culturally different than yours.

Sachal already said this but i guess 2 is better than 1

I quit im just done argueing over something that has been proven You have not proven anything, you are totally incorrect in everything you've argued about and you are way too deep to just admit you were wrong. Stop trying to ruin this kids name by making up such ridiculous accusations you cannot back up with evidence.

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 04:11 PM

he had received three suspensions -- for tardiness, for graffiti and, most recently, for having a baggie with a trace of marijuana in his backpack.
^Proof. it was in my other post

Jupiter

April 8th, 2012, 04:12 PM

what time did this all happen?

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 04:14 PM

11 o'clock at night

Jupiter

April 8th, 2012, 04:17 PM

what time is curfew there?

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 04:20 PM

i dont know let me look it up real quick 11 o,clock

Jupiter

April 8th, 2012, 04:23 PM

ok, well, why was he out at curfew?

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 04:24 PM

He was supposed getting tea and skittles

Jupiter

April 8th, 2012, 04:36 PM

did his parents know he was out?

Professional Russian

April 8th, 2012, 04:37 PM

YEah they knew...i think

Truth

April 9th, 2012, 08:28 AM

^Proof. it was in my other post I'm saying where did you get that "proof"? You have no reliable source, everything you have said is your opinion and you make it up on the spot.

You are one of those people that need to just leave politics alone...

Oath

April 13th, 2012, 03:30 AM

he's gonna get raped in prison for killing poor trayvon.

http://global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/fn2/video/al_zimmerman_041212.jpg

Quahog

April 13th, 2012, 03:58 AM

I hope he gets what he deserves for shooting an unarmed teenage boy for no reason. Racist piece of scum.

FojeJC

April 13th, 2012, 06:19 AM

How the hell is this thread still going

viper

April 13th, 2012, 08:05 AM

Truth

April 13th, 2012, 10:05 AM

i live in metro Detroit. BLACK PEOPLE KILL WHITE GUYS ALL THE TIME ALMOST EVERY WEEK BUT DOES ANYONE CARE? NO!!!! PEOPLE KILL BABIES DOES ANYONE CARE NO!!!! I GUESS A BLACK GUY KILLING A WHITE GUY DOESENT MATTER CAUSE OVER HERE IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME! BUT WHEN A WHITE GUY KILLS A BLACK GUY ITS A BIG DEAL CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY THIS IS? :mad: Why? Because an adult hunted, stalked, and killed Travyon Martin on the SUSPICION he stole something in a robbery about a week ago. It's not just some random murder. Not to say any death is okay, but this is obvious police corruption, and abuse of authority. This guy was the neighbourhood watch... but he was out shooting teenagers.

DJX97

April 13th, 2012, 10:38 AM

Racism will always be here. In country like the UK it is less then in Eastern Europe because in here we have a wide range of culture meanwhile in Eastern Europe it's not as well developed, so a large sum of people come here for better living standards and jobs. We need to acknowledge this fact globally and get different culture all over the globe.

KewlKat

April 13th, 2012, 10:50 AM

I have a friend who is black and wears hoodies and he lived in that same area, nothing ever happend to him! DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THIS BUT.... most kids have double lives and for all we know this kid could have been an angel in front of his parents and a big jerk in front of anyone else, im not saying he was, im just saying you never know, and now we never will, and i also think these cops should choose who they actually credit as eyewitness, some of these family members are crazy and will say anything

Truth

April 13th, 2012, 10:55 AM

I have a friend who is black and wears hoodies and he lived in that same area, nothing ever happend to him! DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THIS BUT.... most kids have double lives and for all we know this kid could have been an angel in front of his parents and a big jerk in front of anyone else, im not saying he was, im just saying you never know, and now we never will The only bad thing about this boy is that it's suspected he smokes marijuana, which isn't a horrible thing. I do it and I'm a stand-up citizen. (This can't be verified, it's simply suspected)

viper

April 15th, 2012, 01:04 PM

Why? Because an adult hunted, stalked, and killed Travyon Martin on the SUSPICION he stole something in a robbery about a week ago. It's not just some random murder. Not to say any death is okay, but this is obvious police corruption, and abuse of authority. This guy was the neighbourhood watch... but he was out shooting teenagers.

someone kiddnapped a baby because he did not like the gorls mom. but am i not wrong that its usully black guys killing white guys? or is that just around here

abdheuuuchjc

April 15th, 2012, 11:57 PM

The Trayvon Martin think is a media fad it will pass. Remember stop kony 2012 most people blindly followed not knowing he has been dead for years. All im saying is dont believe everything you hear.

Sugaree

April 16th, 2012, 02:12 AM

The Trayvon Martin think is a media fad it will pass. Remember stop kony 2012 most people blindly followed not knowing he has been dead for years. All im saying is dont believe everything you hear.

It's not a fad when there's a dead young man who had his whole life ahead of him.

abdheuuuchjc

April 16th, 2012, 02:25 AM

I agree this is bad and zimmerman needs to die but in a month everyone who didnt kno him will just forget. who still remembers casey Anthonys daughter or OJ Simpson's wife.

xChrisVx

April 20th, 2012, 05:32 PM

Zimmermann's bail has been posted at $150,000.

viper

April 20th, 2012, 09:03 PM

you no what he thought he was suspisius because he was black and had a hood on. not being racist but if a black guy walked up to me with a hood on i wouldent just stand there

Jupiter

April 20th, 2012, 10:42 PM

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwmvHkbSQK-gIVaNQcPVZt7PZc7SRnLIa69Zj9z-JJkWV1MudfspKmPzlD

shyguy21

April 22nd, 2012, 04:14 PM

you no what he thought he was suspisius because he was black and had a hood on. not being racist but if a black guy walked up to me with a hood on i wouldent just stand there

Ya, okay, but thats different.. Zimmerman was in his car, and was told not to follow him, so if anything he put himself in the situation. Its not like Trayvon was looking for a fight or anything...

Texas warrior

June 11th, 2012, 11:59 PM

Lego

August 9th, 2012, 10:45 PM

Yo texas warrior general lee flag is racist...

Twilly F. Sniper

August 11th, 2012, 07:55 AM

Lips at fuchsias rant. This thread is proof that racism hasn't left America not yet.

*lols* computer corrected me.

Please use the "edit" button instead of double posting. ~Bath

Oath

August 11th, 2012, 10:56 PM

The confederate flag isn't racist you bolt bucket.

Twilly F. Sniper

August 13th, 2012, 07:15 AM

Kindve is a SYMBOLISM of it

Professional Russian

August 13th, 2012, 07:25 AM

Yo texas warrior general lee flag is racist...

The rebel flag isnt racist.

Do people really still give a fuck about this?

Oath

October 16th, 2012, 09:48 PM

It's the history behind it.

squibles976

October 16th, 2012, 09:59 PM

From what I hear Martin started the fight, but zimmerman was an idiot for following him, but he wasn't "shot for being black" a hate crime would ne the time crouching-tiger shot 3 cops just cause they were white and pulled him over, wasn't anything in his car hadn't commitd a crime yet, then shot three cops for no Damn reason, and then when he himself got to the hospital and died all the natives tried saying the hospital let him die

Oath

February 26th, 2013, 02:59 AM

Thought I would bump as this still is an ongoing event.

Professional Russian

February 26th, 2013, 07:16 AM

Thought I would bump as this still is an ongoing event.

No its not. I haven't heard about since the last post in this thread.

Majin Vegeta

February 26th, 2013, 06:52 PM

TEENAGE BOY SHOT FOR BEING WHITE

Man that is such bull shit it isn't even funny. You never see headliners like that, "Shot for being white". Every day people get shot who are white, asian, blue, yellow, and you don't see that headliner unless the person just so happens to be of African decent (Or something along that color line). Yeah, the man just so happened to not be black, and he shot someone who was black. Well last week a black man shot a white man in the town adjacent to mine, and there wasn't a headliner saying "Man shot for being white".

This bull shit hate crime stuff needs to get over itself. The dude shot a HUMAN BEING. Who cares if he was purple, black, blue, red??? Murder is murder. It doesn't make any difference if he was black. I wish this shit would just stop. Obama needs to get his head out of the fucking clouds too and stop putting his two sense in and stop trying to start a race war.

//end rant

I totally agree with this

well when there is clear evidence that Trayvon was running for his life and screaming help and the man shot him then it will be big news ok just listen to Trayvon screaming for help :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmnqKotpSD0 ohhh and that they only tell news on when blacks are shot by white but they never do it in reverse is a bunch of BULL SH#* because when have your ever heard a black/ minority say ohh i hate white people or a black organization meant to eliminate all blacks and other minorites (KKK) exactly and if your not a minority then you dont understand where we are coming from because you never had to be in our shoes white have never been through hundreds of year being slaves to another race then being sold and killed as a trading industry sooo before you get all up and arms about how they only talk about when something happens to black or minority put yo feet in our shoes, and they always has headlines about white kids gone missing or parents killed them, when was the last time you saw a black child missing on tv, yall have a Amber Alert, theres no, Keesha Alert, no Ricardo Alert, no just AMBER ALERT yea it means anybody but when was the last time you heard the Amber Alert called for a Minority.......hmm...........ohh i will wait...................EXACTLY soo GET TF OUT OF HERE WITH THAT BS!!!!!!

In what America do you live in because the cases that blacks do shot whites its for money, food, drugs, and stuff like that NOT because a white guy looks suspicious, and they would have that on National news so dont give me that BS because evertime a black kids goes missing do you hear about it NOOO when a white kid does they call a Amber Alert so stay quiet and let the grown folk talk

---Let's not Double post~Lexi---

hey self-rightous "grown folk", amber alert is called for everybody regardless of skin color

Double post merged ~ Mike/ImCoolBeans

workingatperfect

February 26th, 2013, 07:55 PM

No its not. I haven't heard about since the last post in this thread.

Actually, yesterday or today, or something was the anniversary and it's showing up in the news again.

Professional Russian

February 26th, 2013, 07:56 PM

Actually, yesterday or today, or something was the anniversary and it's showing up in the news again.

Oh are we having anniversarys for it now?

Oath

March 1st, 2013, 03:17 AM

Yes. The white guy shot him because he was black.

Professional Russian

March 1st, 2013, 06:24 AM

Yes. The white guy shot him because he was black.

Oh come on we all ready know that's bullshit. The was a Mexican too so get your facts right. It doesn't deserve an anniversery if you ask me

Majin Vegeta

March 3rd, 2013, 02:13 AM

Oh come on we all ready know that's bullshit. The was a Mexican too so get your facts right. It doesn't deserve an anniversery if you ask me

exactly. it was a murder just like all the other ones that happen everyday

Oath

March 3rd, 2013, 06:55 AM

Oh come on we all ready know that's bullshit. The was a Mexican too so get your facts right. It doesn't deserve an anniversery if you ask me

He is not mexican.

He is white and White Hispanic (Peruvian). that makes him white.

Professional Russian

March 3rd, 2013, 08:54 AM

He is not mexican.

He is white and White Hispanic (Peruvian). that makes him white.

Oh what the fuck ever. let me ask you this. why is it racist if a white guys shoots a black guy but if a black guy shoots a white guy its perfectly fine nothing racist about it?

Oath

March 3rd, 2013, 11:10 PM

It's not a guy dumbass. It's a teenage boy.

Kahn

March 4th, 2013, 12:42 AM

It's not a guy dumbass. It's a teenage boy.

Insults are counterproductive and you're nitpicking at details. Not every murder between one race and another is racial. This teenage "boy" was almost a legal adult. Had he been 18, it wouldn't have blown up too be this big of a deal. Because he legally was a minor, Trayvon Martin's murder was that of a 'child'.

He wasn't a child mentally or physically; please, many of us are his age and claim to have the mental maturity of adults. He was LEGALLY a boy.

Who are we to judge Zimmerman's intentions, unless we had been in his shoes before? We can only assume from the details of it all. These assumptions are made from both fact and fiction (because behind every truth there's a bias). So, who are we to know?

Sugaree

March 4th, 2013, 12:44 AM

Yes. The white guy shot him because he was black.

He is not mexican.

He is white and White Hispanic (Peruvian). that makes him white.

Oh yes, white people are just the devil aren't they? I bet you're white or at least partially white. Quit trying to make us check our racial privilege.

It's not a guy dumbass. It's a teenage boy.

You have yet to answer Bert's question. Why is it racist when a white man shoots a black man, but when the tables are turned, you don't see the race card pulled?

Seriously, why the fuck is all of VT in support of Trayvon? It's pretty much proven now that he beat Zimmerman into the ground and Zimmerman was defending himself. Why the hell is it racist for a white man to defend himself against a black teenager? Is it because Trayvon didn't have a weapon? Or is it because "WAHHHH POOR TRAYVON HE WAS ONLY 17 AND GOT SHOT BY A WHITE DEVIL." Grow the fuck up and realize that race isn't the topic in this case anymore, it's the right of self defense against people who bully you.

Oath

March 5th, 2013, 03:02 AM

Oh yes, white people are just the devil aren't they? I bet you're white or at least partially white. Quit trying to make us check our racial privilege.

You have yet to answer Bert's question. Why is it racist when a white man shoots a black man, but when the tables are turned, you don't see the race card pulled?

Seriously, why the fuck is all of VT in support of Trayvon? It's pretty much proven now that he beat Zimmerman into the ground and Zimmerman was defending himself. Why the hell is it racist for a white man to defend himself against a black teenager? Is it because Trayvon didn't have a weapon? Or is it because "WAHHHH POOR TRAYVON HE WAS ONLY 17 AND GOT SHOT BY A WHITE DEVIL." Grow the fuck up and realize that race isn't the topic in this case anymore, it's the right of self defense against people who bully you.

Why are you taking Zimmerman's side?

The trial hasn't been set yet, so I'm just going on my opinion which is all based on factual evidence.

George Zimmerman before the incident was watch gay pornography websites which featured black and latino men.

Trayvon went to the convenience store to buy some candy and a drink and whether he was up to no good or not, Zimmerman is not the police. He is a neighborhood watchman who's job is to be an informant and report to police his findings.

He decided to take action on his own and confront someone who is damn near half his age. A fight then occurred where Zimmerman shot him.

The reason as to why it is behind race because Zimmerman was racially profiling him. He has some issues with black men due to his website browser history and the fact that after police told him not to confront him, he did anyways.

==========================

In response to your other question, In my opinion, it's racist if someone shoots someone of a different color, only because they are a different color. I don't care if the shooter was orange, green or purple.

Just to be on the safe side white media contributors try their best to not get their feet wet. With white people slowly but surely becoming the racial minority, they want to play their cards right. The global media is run by people who are black, Asian etc so they will try to slander white people the best they can.

Majin Vegeta

March 7th, 2013, 08:22 PM

Why are you taking Zimmerman's side?

The trial hasn't been set yet, so I'm just going on my opinion which is all based on factual evidence.

George Zimmerman before the incident was watch gay pornography websites which featured black and latino men.

Trayvon went to the convenience store to buy some candy and a drink and whether he was up to no good or not, Zimmerman is not the police. He is a neighborhood watchman who's job is to be an informant and report to police his findings.

He decided to take action on his own and confront someone who is damn near half his age. A fight then occurred where Zimmerman shot him.

The reason as to why it is behind race because Zimmerman was racially profiling him. He has some issues with black men due to his website browser history and the fact that after police told him not to confront him, he did anyways.

==========================

In response to your other question, In my opinion, it's racist if someone shoots someone of a different color, only because they are a different color. I don't care if the shooter was orange, green or purple.

Just to be on the safe side white media contributors try their best to not get their feet wet. With white people slowly but surely becoming the racial minority, they want to play their cards right. The global media is run by people who are black, Asian etc so they will try to slander white people the best they can.

Zimmerman is hispanic
Trayvon did used to act like a thug and none of the pictures on the mainstream media sites are recent. since they're lying about what he looks like or his frequent suspensions from school then idk what to believe.

I'm considering all of this as a regular murder which is still sad but not racial

Guillermo

March 7th, 2013, 11:56 PM

The trial hasn't been set yet, so I'm just going on my opinion which is all based on factual evidence.

Could you link me to some sources showing these facts? I've researched about the porn case and have yet to find a credible site showing this event taking place. And I don't think that the racial profiling part has been found to be 100% true yet, but if you have anything else showing otherwise, please show me. I'm not denying that racial profiling doesn't exist; because that would be very untrue. I think really all we can do is wait for a trial to be carried out.

Iron Man

March 8th, 2013, 12:18 AM

Why are you taking Zimmerman's side?

The trial hasn't been set yet, so I'm just going on my opinion which is all based on factual evidence.

A little contradictory, if you ask me.

George Zimmerman before the incident was watch gay pornography websites which featured black and latino men.

So he likes to fap. Guess we'd better behead him for it.

In response to your other question, In my opinion, it's racist if someone shoots someone of a different color, only because they are a different color. I don't care if the shooter was orange, green or purple.

You don't say?

workingatperfect

March 8th, 2013, 12:30 AM

Oh come on we all ready know that's bullshit. The was a Mexican too so get your facts right. It doesn't deserve an anniversery if you ask me

This is a bit silly, everything has an anniversary, really, if it happened on a single date in time.

And this will probably sound stupid, but I never followed the case, just heard bits and pieces at school and on the news. But wasn't he shot because he supposed looked like someone who had just robbed a convenient store or something? In which case, he was shot because he was black, but... not because he was black? Lol, that makes no sense, but hopefully someone gets what I'm saying.

Professional Russian

March 11th, 2013, 05:06 PM

This is a bit silly, everything has an anniversary, really, if it happened on a single date in time.

And this will probably sound stupid, but I never followed the case, just heard bits and pieces at school and on the news. But wasn't he shot because he supposed looked like someone who had just robbed a convenient store or something? In which case, he was shot because he was black, but... not because he was black? Lol, that makes no sense, but hopefully someone gets what I'm saying.

He was shot in self defense. and hes no kid. he was 17 nearly an adult so stop making him look so innocent by calling him a id

workingatperfect

March 11th, 2013, 11:06 PM

He was shot in self defense. and hes no kid. he was 17 nearly an adult so stop making him look so innocent by calling him a id

Did I say kid?? No, I didn't. I never mentioned his age, and I wasn't trying to make him innocent, I even said I was probably wrong but that was what I heard. So why don't you back off and in the future, actually read what someone says before you respond with something completely irrelevant?

Professional Russian

March 12th, 2013, 06:10 AM

Did I say kid?? No, I didn't. I never mentioned his age, and I wasn't trying to make him innocent, I even said I was probably wrong but that was what I heard. So why don't you back off and in the future, actually read what someone says before you respond with something completely irrelevant?

The whole age thing was directed to the OP

workingatperfect

March 12th, 2013, 01:26 PM

The whole age thing was directed to the OP

Oh oh I see, you quoted me to respond to the OP.... Ok, totally get it now...

Professional Russian

March 12th, 2013, 02:00 PM

George Zimmerman before the incident was watch gay pornography websites which featured black and latino men.
What hell does porn have to do with this?

In response to your other question, In my opinion, it's racist if someone shoots someone of a different color, only because they are a different color. I don't care if the shooter was orange, green or purple.
Do you know the definition of racism? you are not racis tbecause you shoot someone of a different ethnic other than yours. are all those black people that shoot white people racist too?
Oh oh I see, you quoted me to respond to the OP.... Ok, totally get it now...
The first line was for you. the rest for the OP

Sugaree

March 12th, 2013, 05:33 PM

In response to your other question, In my opinion, it's racist if someone shoots someone of a different color, only because they are a different color. I don't care if the shooter was orange, green or purple

I suggest you take another look at what racism means. In your opinion then, it would be racist if I shot a black intruder in self defense, right? Racism isn't such a black and white issue as you're putting it.

Cicero

March 12th, 2013, 11:27 PM

I feel bad for trayvon, but I don't think he's as innocent as what people think he was. Of course parents are going to think their kid was an angel. My parents think I'm as close to an angel as a teenage kid can get but I'm not, I've stolen, I swear, I watch porn, and I've done way more worse stuff. I really doubt that it was due to race, both of the people involved were in sorts minorities. It'd be more of a racial issue if it was a white shooting a Mexican or black kid. But it wasn't. Maybe trayvon was trying to act all cool and maybe he did attack the other guy, or maybe that other guy felt threatened by trayvon. But I have a feeling trayvon was that cute little angel kid he's portrayed as.

Here's the thing though, trayvons killer will have a ruff future for many years. He's as hated as Casey Anthony. His life is basically ruined. So there was a consequence for him even though he wasn't sent to jail, personally, I think it's a terrible punishment.

drew6

March 15th, 2013, 05:34 PM

he was no angel

PandaBear

March 16th, 2013, 07:29 PM

I'm glad to read there are plenty of people in this thread with the common sense to realise that Trayvon Martin isn't the angel that the media seems to portray him as, showing his picture from 4-5 years ago to make him look all innocent, when in reality he was a thug and was out looking for trouble. George Zimmerman got his ass beat by Trayvon that night and used the gun IN SELF DEFENSE, otherwise Trayvon probably would have beaten him to death.

Oath

July 1st, 2013, 02:35 AM

Well I'm hoping that justice is served somehow.

Sugaree

July 2nd, 2013, 05:04 PM

Well I'm hoping that justice is served somehow.

Keep crying for poor little TrayTray; the evidence is not in your favor.

RyanCrest

July 8th, 2013, 04:04 PM

We may never know the truth. There's only two people who know what really happened, and unfortunately one id dead.

Austinb13

July 12th, 2013, 04:41 PM

RIP Trayvon Martin
#JusticeforTrayvonMartin

No he isnt a innocent angel but that doesnt mean you follow someone and shoot them beacause they look suspicous and himmerman or whatever the fuck his name is wasnt attacked he didnt listen when the people told him to stay inside he went out and shot him for no Fucking reason!

-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

Dark Blue

July 12th, 2013, 05:04 PM

I'm not here looking for an argument or a debate, I know how I feel and unfortunately I have been subjected to other mind-boggling opinions of others but I still make attempts to respect those opinions.

Trayvon Martin may not have been an angel but so what? Does that mean you follow him and gun him down? It is hard for me to stomach the fact that people thinks he started the altercation. He had skittles and an ice tea in his hand while he was on the phone. What picture does that pain in your mind? Okay, so his pants were sagging, it was late in the night and he dressed like a 'thug'. So what? Who's business is it to follow him, calling 911 was enough but that boy wasn't hurting anyone or intending to.

As this trial is coming to a close I fear that no justice will be served for him. My prayers go out to him and his family and also Zimmerman in hopes he will come clean with what really happened that night.

#JusticeforTrayvonMartin

Sugaree

July 13th, 2013, 09:11 PM

All you #JusticeForTrayvon idiots just got your asses handed to you by the court.

Dark Blue

July 13th, 2013, 10:51 PM

All you #JusticeForTrayvon idiots just got your asses handed to you by the court.

Instead of being profane and obviously ignorant, why don't you realize someone's life was in the mix of this. You lack any kind of morale.

Sugaree

July 13th, 2013, 11:24 PM

Instead of being profane and obviously ignorant, why don't you realize someone's life was in the mix of this. You lack any kind of morale.

Keep crying then, because I have no connection to Trayvon and don't care what happened to him. Killed or not, this shit happens day in and day out. One kid doesn't make a difference.

Dark Blue

July 14th, 2013, 12:08 AM

Keep crying then, because I have no connection to Trayvon and don't care what happened to him. Killed or not, this shit happens day in and day out. One kid doesn't make a difference.

Not crying, and that's fine that you have no connection. Very true, and they deserve justice as well. And your right, one kid doesn't make a difference in our society but it should. This should be an eye opener to people in our country.

teen.jpg

July 14th, 2013, 01:31 AM

Keep crying then, because I have no connection to Trayvon and don't care what happened to him. Killed or not, this shit happens day in and day out. One kid doesn't make a difference.

That is the coldest statement I've ever heard, and it's worse because I'm assuming there's a reason you're thinking like that.

CharlieHorse

July 14th, 2013, 02:00 AM

It's sad that he died, but I think it was a complete misunderstanding and a mistake.
I don't know why people are ganging up so much about this.
Every day, innocent people are killed. Lots of times, you'll glance over it if it manages to make the news and people won't care.
It's just life. Shit happens. Sorry everyone, and my condolences to Martin's family.

Jevon

July 14th, 2013, 02:10 AM

Ok yah it's sad he died but seriously they are blowing this waaaay out of proportion

Austinb13

July 14th, 2013, 10:51 AM

Keep crying then, because I have no connection to Trayvon and don't care what happened to him. Killed or not, this shit happens day in and day out. One kid doesn't make a difference.

Thats good you dont care hope this happens to you or someone you know and do care about so people can say the same things. Asshole

Harry Smith

July 14th, 2013, 11:10 AM

Thats good you dont care hope this happens to you or someone you know and do care about so people can say the same things. Asshole

You shouldn't wish death on anyone.

The title sums up my view 'teenage boy shot for being black?' no teenage boy shot for assaulting a man. Whilst I disagree with the law in place Zimmerman didn't commit a crime that night

Southside

July 14th, 2013, 11:32 AM

You shouldn't wish death on anyone.

The title sums up my view 'teenage boy shot for being black?' no teenage boy shot for assaulting a man. Whilst I disagree with the law in place Zimmerman didn't commit a crime that night

Do you think its OK to disobey the directions of a police dispatcher?

Harry Smith

July 14th, 2013, 11:44 AM

Do you think its OK to disobey the directions of a police dispatcher?

Yes, they have no legal power. The stand your ground law clearly states that you have a right to defend yourself.

First every single NAACP was screaming 'racist attack, he ddin't do anything' then it emerges that he attacked Zimmerman first.

He wasn't an innocent little sweetheart as everyone made him out to be, but that doesn't matter in the eyes of the law. All that matters what that he attacked Zimmerman and fearing for his life Zimmerman shot him.

Southside

July 14th, 2013, 11:49 AM

Yes, they have no legal power. The stand your ground law clearly states that you have a right to defend yourself.

First every single NAACP was screaming 'racist attack, he ddin't do anything' then it emerges that he attacked Zimmerman first.

He wasn't an innocent little sweetheart as everyone made him out to be, but that doesn't matter in the eyes of the law. All that matters what that he attacked Zimmerman and fearing for his life Zimmerman shot him.

Do you think this whole incident would have happened if Zimmerman would have followed the directions of the dispatcher to stay in his car and wait for the police to come? Zimmerman wanted to act like a little badass and go confront him, it wasnt needed when the dispatcher clearly stated that he didnt need to follow him.

Honestly, if you see a suspicious guy in your neighborhood are you going to approach him?

I agree with the you on the bit that the media portrayed Trayvon Martin as some type angel, they also made him seem younger than he was. Trayvon was profiled, not racially, but criminally.

Harry Smith

July 14th, 2013, 11:51 AM

Do you think this whole case would have happened if Zimmerman would have followed the directions of the dispatcher to stay in his car and wait for the police to come?

I agree with the you on the bit that the media portrayed Trayvon Martin as some type angel, they also made him seem younger than he was. Trayvon was profiled, not racially, but criminally.

That doesn't matter one bit, of course it wouldn't of happened. WW2 wouldn't of broke out if Hindenburg had declared martial law in '33. It's all hindsight.

Travyon Martin attacked Zimmerman, everyone over looks that. If someone was slamming my head in the pavement and trying to grab my gun of course I'm going to shot them.

Dark Blue

July 14th, 2013, 12:01 PM

That doesn't matter one bit, of course it wouldn't of happened. WW2 wouldn't of broke out if Hindenburg had declared martial law in '33. It's all hindsight.

Travyon Martin attacked Zimmerman, everyone over looks that. If someone was slamming my head in the pavement and trying to grab my gun of course I'm going to shot them.

Police warned him not to follow, according to the "stand your ground law" if a man was following me and I felt in danger of course I'd attack. Fight or flight, right? So why is Martin being bashed for doing exactly what Zimmerman claims he was doing? To make it even worst, Martin didn't stand a chance because he didn't have a gun.

Also, true, Trayvon isn't an angel but people seem to overlook the racial remarks made by Zimmerman before pursuit. Although the issue shouldn't be about race, Martin was profiled by Zimmerman which could be a probable cause in the attack and disobeying the law.

ALSO, if in the middle of the night someone followed me and a struggle occurred, I WOULD reach for their gun knowing sure as hell I was at a disadvantage because I didn't have one? Wouldn't you?

Southside

July 14th, 2013, 12:05 PM

That doesn't matter one bit, of course it wouldn't of happened. WW2 wouldn't of broke out if Hindenburg had declared martial law in '33. It's all hindsight.

Travyon Martin attacked Zimmerman, everyone over looks that. If someone was slamming my head in the pavement and trying to grab my gun of course I'm going to shot them.

Alright then, you just admitted it wouldnt have happened, thats the only argument I have in this whole case. Zimmerman should have stayed in the car(like the dispatcher directed him to) instead of trying to be a badass.

I think the fact that the dispatcher told him not to get out his car is the most overlooked part of this whole thing. You can look at the fact Trayvon had marijauna in his system,you can look at the fact Zimmerman called the police on blacks multiple times in the past, but I believe it all boils down to what the police dispatcher directed him to do.

Harry Smith

July 14th, 2013, 12:12 PM

Police warned him not to follow, according to the "stand your ground law" if a man was following me and I felt in danger of course I'd attack. Fight or flight, right? So why is Martin being bashed for doing exactly what Zimmerman claims he was doing? To make it even worst, Martin didn't stand a chance because he didn't have a gun.

Also, true, Trayvon isn't an angel but people seem to overlook the racial remarks made by Zimmerman before pursuit. Although the issue shouldn't be about race, Martin was profiled by Zimmerman which could be a probable cause in the attack and disobeying the law.

ALSO, if in the middle of the night someone followed me and a struggle occurred, I WOULD reach for their gun knowing sure as hell I was at a disadvantage because I didn't have one? Wouldn't you?

Zimmerman claims that he called out to him and then martin attacked him, the stand your ground law allows you to use lethal force if your life is in danger. By your theory Martin had a right to attack a police officer for following him.

Martin attacked Zimmerman without any just cause, that's not self defense. Zimmerman had every right to shoot him, you can go to all these great lengths to change the rules and incidence.

The court has ruled that Martin attacked and used the pavement as a weapon, under the stand your ground law Zimmerman had every right to kill him. Excusing the pun case closed

Southside

July 14th, 2013, 12:22 PM

Zimmerman claims that he called out to him and then martin attacked him, the stand your ground law allows you to use lethal force if your life is in danger. By your theory Martin had a right to attack a police officer for following him.

Martin attacked Zimmerman without any just cause, that's not self defense. Zimmerman had every right to shoot him, you can go to all these great lengths to change the rules and incidence.

The court has ruled that Martin attacked and used the pavement as a weapon, under the stand your ground law Zimmerman had every right to kill him. Excusing the pun case closed

Zimmerman wasnt a police officer, he was a "neigborhood watch volunteer". He didnt have any badge or didnt belong to any police department, he was just your average wannabe badass in my opinion.

Martin had a right under the stand your ground law right? He felt threatened so he was actually entitled to defend himself under the law.

Harry Smith

July 14th, 2013, 12:33 PM

Zimmerman wasnt a police officer, he was a "neigborhood watch volunteer". He didnt have any badge or didnt belong to any police department, he was just your average wannabe badass in my opinion.

Martin had a right under the stand your ground law right? He felt threatened so he was actually entitled to defend himself under the law.

You seem to be misunderstanding the law, in all fairness it is a pretty stupid one.

In legal theory Martin had a right to defend himself if he felt threatened, this is in theory. The same theory which implies that Zimmerman shouldn't of gone to caught.

The problem is the incident, just now after reviewing the notes I saw the Zimmerman claims that Martin attacked him front behind as he was walking back to his car. This means that Zimmerman was not a threat to martin when martin used force.

As I've said the problem is that self defense isn't as simple as saying I used self defense, it has to be looked at case to case.

Origami

July 14th, 2013, 01:00 PM

Dark Blue

July 14th, 2013, 03:32 PM

I'm going to say it: People are butt hurt over this case for one god damn reason and it is not because a kid was killed. It is because a partially white man shot a black kid. This whole god damned thing has been blown out of proportion because of racism. It did not deserve the media shit storm that it was given. Trayvon Martin is not the first kid to be shot and killed. Zimmerman is not the first person to shoot and kid and get off scot-free.

You want my compassion for the kid and his family? Then get all of the race bullshit out of it. I could care less what happened that day or in the court because of the mindless racism that promoted it to gain so much attention. This link is fucking gold about halfway down. (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/27/if-zimmerman-get-off-ima-go-kill-a-white-boy-trayvon-martin-supporters-make-shocking-threats-ahead-of-verdict/) All this case shows me is that a jury can see past racism, unlike the rest of America. The jury saw a man being attacked (Don't say he disobeyed police - he didn't have to and neither do you) who used his weapon to defend himself.

Stop being so dissuaded by the media, you can have compassion for Martin without race being involved, he wasn't even an adult yet show some respect. Anytime the topic is brought up I make it clear that I'm not arguing anything about race. Problem solved.

And he did disobey police, sure he didn't have to oblige but he didn't and now look what happened. How are you so sure he didn't attack Martin, since we are talking about "CLAIMS" Jeantel or whatever, claimed that she heard a bump before the line went dead and Trayvon yelling "get off me" which would imply that Zimmerman was in fact ON TOP OF Martin.

People tend to be so blind in this case. Zimmerman does a fantastic job at playing the victim, hence why he didn't take the stand to get eaten alive by the prosecutors.

You seem to be misunderstanding the law, in all fairness it is a pretty stupid one.

In legal theory Martin had a right to defend himself if he felt threatened, this is in theory. The same theory which implies that Zimmerman shouldn't of gone to caught.

The problem is the incident, just now after reviewing the notes I saw the Zimmerman claims that Martin attacked him front behind as he was walking back to his car. This means that Zimmerman was not a threat to martin when martin used force.

As I've said the problem is that self defense isn't as simple as saying I used self defense, it has to be looked at case to case.

Zimmerman claims a lot, unfortunately only two people know what happened and one is now six feet under. Why would Martin randomly attack Zimmerman if he was walking away? Without saying anything? Zimmerman says whats going to save his ass, self-defense. Nobody can effectively fight for Martin because Martin isn't here.

Harry Smith

July 14th, 2013, 03:39 PM

Stop being so dissuaded by the media, you can have compassion for Martin without race being involved, he wasn't even an adult yet show some respect. Anytime the topic is brought up I make it clear that I'm not arguing anything about race. Problem solved.

And he did disobey police, sure he didn't have to oblige but he didn't and now look what happened. How are you so sure he didn't attack Martin, since we are talking about "CLAIMS" Jeantel or whatever, claimed that she heard a bump before the line went dead and Trayvon yelling "get off me" which would imply that Zimmerman was in fact ON TOP OF Martin.

People tend to be so blind in this case. Zimmerman does a fantastic job at playing the victim, hence why he didn't take the stand to get eaten alive by the prosecutors.

Zimmerman claims a lot, unfortunately only two people know what happened and one is now six feet under. Why would Martin randomly attack Zimmerman if he was walking away? Without saying anything? Zimmerman says whats going to save his ass, self-defense. Nobody can effectively fight for Martin because Martin isn't here.

No, the only eye-witness at the scene said that he saw Marin on top of Zimmerman. The phone evidence was very questionable, of course his own mum is going to defend her dead son isn't she.

God knows why martin did? Just because he isn't here doesn't mean that on the other side you can assume he is innocent does it?

Origami

July 14th, 2013, 03:58 PM

Stop being so dissuaded by the media, you can have compassion for Martin without race being involved, he wasn't even an adult yet show some respect. Anytime the topic is brought up I make it clear that I'm not arguing anything about race. Problem solved.

And he did disobey police, sure he didn't have to oblige but he didn't and now look what happened. How are you so sure he didn't attack Martin, since we are talking about "CLAIMS" Jeantel or whatever, claimed that she heard a bump before the line went dead and Trayvon yelling "get off me" which would imply that Zimmerman was in fact ON TOP OF Martin.

People tend to be so blind in this case. Zimmerman does a fantastic job at playing the victim, hence why he didn't take the stand to get eaten alive by the prosecutors.

Dissuaded by the media? The media is the very reason why I don't give one fuck about this case as it stands. I could care less what race, age, religion, or social class Martin was, the truth is that this case would have ended at a state or local level if race wasn't involved. I not for race then this case would have never gained national attention.

I'm without compassionate because people have taken this boy's death and beaten it into the ground. Guess what! I didn't follow the case nor am I debating if the verdict was just or not. The only truths are the one person was killed and that thanks to the media it's caused nothing but a giant racial shit storm.

Dark Blue

July 14th, 2013, 04:17 PM

Dissuaded by the media? The media is the very reason why I don't give one fuck about this case as it stands. I could care less what race, age, religion, or social class Martin was, the truth is that this case would have ended at a state or local level if race wasn't involved. I not for race then this case would have never gained national attention.

I'm without compassionate because people have taken this boy's death and beaten it into the ground. Guess what! I didn't follow the case nor am I debating if the verdict was just or not. The only truths are the one person was killed and that thanks to the media it's caused nothing but a giant racial shit storm.

And you want to know the fucked part? In a few months, maybe a year, no one will even talk about this anymore. That's what society does. It takes tragedy to ignite us. Sad huh?