View Full Version : Do you think that world peace will ever be achieved?
Gaybaby94
March 16th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Huh? Do you?! DO YOU!!!!!?
Vonn
March 16th, 2012, 05:38 PM
No. If the fate of the world depended on it, everybody would take that opportunity to fight even more before we clocked out.
kenoloor
March 16th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Of course not. The notion that humankind will find some way to live peacefully and harmoniously is laughable.
Genghis Khan
March 16th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Yup. We will. Give it another thousand years and we'll be there.
Desuetude
March 16th, 2012, 06:30 PM
No, there will never be a time where everyone agrees the same thing and if not are willing to just let it go. All it takes is for one person to act out and the rest follows.
PerpetualImperfexion
March 16th, 2012, 07:06 PM
I think there will be a time when we realize that arguing over our beliefs (especially beliefs that are worth nothing) is useless. This or a oppressive government will take control of the entire world and force us to live in peace.
CuriousDestruction
March 16th, 2012, 07:23 PM
in the history of mankind, 56 years have been war-free. If we ever have world peace it will be for like a month at a time.
Dragon_Droppings
March 16th, 2012, 07:26 PM
No. If the fate of the world depended on it, everybody would take that opportunity to fight even more before we clocked out.
Took the words out of my mouth
Amaryllis
March 16th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Depends on your definition of world peace. If you mean no one will argue, fight, harm one another... Well, no. It never will. Humans, as well as animals, are in constant conflict. It's part of the structure of things. It's how we are built. We have an "us" and "them" mentality.
Few will be all nice to each other if they receive no benefit, or we'll have conflicting views. That can lead to conflict, as it often does. Resources will deplete and struggles may arise.
Aggression is inevitable. To expect world peace is to expect all other mammals to stop killing each other (even of the same species.)
Erasmus
March 17th, 2012, 01:22 PM
No. Just no.
TeddyBearRock
March 17th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Nope, never. there will always be people who want to rule the land
Short Circuit
March 17th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Not while there is religion in the world!
Sorry, but the majority of conflicts on this planet revolve around religion.
Amnesiac
March 17th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Not while there is religion in the world!
Sorry, but the majority of conflicts on this planet revolve around religion.
No, there would be conflict with or without religion. While it's true that religion is a catalyst for conflict in many parts of the world, you can bet that people would find something equally stupid to fight over if religion didn't exist.
World peace is impossible. It's a biological instinct for humans to be naturally greedy and selfish. In addition, the human species is the only one that can comprehend the concept of "war". Human society has always been sharply fragmented into hundreds of different groups, and that natural tenancy to divide ourselves into different sects makes the concept of peace among all of them impossible. There are too many conflicting interests, and too many people with a lust for power.
Thunduhbuhlt
March 17th, 2012, 02:23 PM
It really depends on your idea of "world peace." If you mean no crime, then no, there will always be a criminal, no matter what we do. If you mean no war, then it's highly unlikely, but not impossible.
CuriousDestruction
March 17th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Not while there is religion in the world!
Sorry, but the majority of conflicts on this planet revolve around religion.
was wondering when this would get mentioned. Tell me, what wars revolve around religion?
Professional Russian
March 17th, 2012, 02:35 PM
Fuck no. There is no way we could have world Peace. People will always fight.
Gaybaby94
March 17th, 2012, 02:53 PM
Not while there is religion in the world!
Sorry, but the majority of conflicts on this planet revolve around religion.
I was thinking about mentioning this when I started the thread but I did not because of neg reps. But I totally agree with you.
was wondering when this would get mentioned. Tell me, what wars revolve around religion?
The Crusades. Persian Gulf War. Iraq War. Afghan war. And if Obama does not get re-elected, a future Iran War.
Professional Russian
March 17th, 2012, 02:55 PM
I was thinking about mentioning this when I started the thread but I did not because of neg reps. But I totally agree with you.
The Crusades. Persian Gulf War. Iraq War. Afghan war. And if Obama does not get re-elected, a future Iran War.
Hoe do you know there is going to be a future iran war.
Breakeven
March 17th, 2012, 03:15 PM
nope never , every person think in different way
for me i would love to make world peace n be part of it but try tell that to billions of people :p
CuriousDestruction
March 17th, 2012, 03:26 PM
The Crusades. Persian Gulf War. Iraq War. Afghan war. And if Obama does not get re-elected, a future Iran War.
The Crusades was a war over middle eastern territory. Jerusalem is actually one of the most lush and important lands in the world before we bombed the hell out of it. Jerusalem, or Jericho as it was originally called, is a beautiful place and an extremely important strategic stronghold. It was important even before it became religiously significant. And The Crusades were simply a conquest for treasure and wealth, and the propaganda spoke of religion.
Every other war you have mentioned is over one thing: OIL. You think we went to Iraq because they were Muslim? Ha! If we wanted to kill Muslims we would have gone to Indonesia first. Afghanistan, i'm assuming you are talking about the US war, was over Bin Laden for the most part but also to secure oil interests from the Taliban. Persian Gulf War was to secure our oil interests in Saudi Arabia.
Like it or not, oil runs the world. Get used to it and drive a hybrid.
Professional Russian
March 17th, 2012, 03:30 PM
The Crusades was a war over middle eastern territory. Jerusalem is actually one of the most lush and important lands in the world before we bombed the hell out of it. Jerusalem, or Jericho as it was originally called, is a beautiful place and an extremely important strategic stronghold. It was important even before it became religiously significant. And The Crusades were simply a conquest for treasure and wealth, and the propaganda spoke of religion.
Every other war you have mentioned is over one thing: OIL. You think we went to Iraq because they were Muslim? Ha! If we wanted to kill Muslims we would have gone to Indonesia first. Afghanistan, i'm assuming you are talking about the US war, was over Bin Laden for the most part but also to secure oil interests from the Taliban. Persian Gulf War was to secure our oil interests in Saudi Arabia.
Like it or not, oil runs the world. Get used to it and drive a hybrid.
^This^
Sugaree
March 17th, 2012, 03:33 PM
Not while there is religion in the world!
Sorry, but the majority of conflicts on this planet revolve around religion.
Lol. Just lol. You've either got to be dumb or bullheaded and I'm guessing you're both. Name five modern conflicts that revolve around religion. I'm not talking about the Crusades either, I want conflicts from the modern age that are happened right now. Other than skirmishes in the Middle East, which have been going on for years, religion hasn't caused any major war since the Middle Ages.
Religion isn't the problem. It's people who say religion is the one cause of all conflict that have no clue. Religion isn't a bad thing, so why blame it for disrupting world peace? King Ferdinand and Queen Isabelle were able to save Spain from Islamic rule and actually made the country more prosperous than it ever was up until that time. Oh, and they were Catholic, which made the entire country Catholic. Up until the Inquisition, Spain was actually a very peaceful country thanks to both their leaders and their religion.
To get back to the topic, there's going to be conflict no matter what century we're in. I don't see the entire world being cordial. It's not possible to please everybody without displeasing at least ONE person. Anyone who tells you world peace is achievable is about as smart as a piece of dirt. You can't have long time enemies just start hugging each other. You're simply wasting your time trying to reach an unreachable and impossible goal.
The Crusades. Persian Gulf War. Iraq War. Afghan war. And if Obama does not get re-elected, a future Iran War.
Other than the Crusades, you've given no modern conflicts that have revolved around religion. It's simply coincidence that people in Middle-East wars you listed are Muslims, so does that make the wars about religion entirely? Afghanistan was a failed attempt to find Bin Laden, as was Iraq. The Persian Gulf was an attempt to dismantle Sadam Hussein's regime. Of course, other motives behind these wars would be for more control of the world's oil supply, which the United States uses 20% of annually.
Also, if you think Obama is going to keep us out of Iran's business, you're wrong. The more sanctions we put against them, the more Iran is going to notice. And the more Iran notices, the higher chance that it will attack us or we attack them. I approve of these sanctions, so long as the U.N. has control of them. But the fact that the United States is getting involved is out of line. Also, Obama isn't a peace keeper. If he was such a great non-conflict president, we should have been down to 68,000 troops in Afghanistan by last September (instead, we're at almost 100,000 and will be at said 68k by September THIS year). Obama isn't the savior you like to put him up to be.
Professional Russian
March 17th, 2012, 04:09 PM
There wuill be no future war in Iran unless they attack us first we wijll no go to war withthem. NA if they and obama does get elected he wouldnt do shit.
Gordo
March 17th, 2012, 05:04 PM
and if obummer does get re elected there will be a war of iran vs israel and usa, but because obummer is in office they'll have nukes. Let's not classify all the wars in the middle east as religious related. Iraq wars were more about oil than anything. They invaded kuwait, usa likes her oil so there we are. Afgan, Israel and the rest = same thing. USA wants stability in the region so the oil keeps flowing. Period.
Shark98
March 17th, 2012, 05:10 PM
I don't think so, Out of a population of 7 billion people (and quickly growing) there will always be one government that disagrees
Straight
March 17th, 2012, 05:11 PM
When we finally make nuclear fusion reactors, there would be enough energy for everyone on this planet for billions of years with no harmful bi-products. just helium, which we can use for fuel. That will rule out the need for fighting for energy.
Over thousands of years, even hundreds, people will start to believe more in science and less in religion. Yes, God will probably always be there, but the groups will have such few numbers their impact will be minimal.
fighting for territory, that doesn't happen much anymore. It's normally for fuel. except for, of course.... WWII.
Philleeep
March 17th, 2012, 05:18 PM
If your talking about humankind world peace then i think it can be achievable. including animals - never
Sugaree
March 17th, 2012, 05:46 PM
and if obummer does get re elected there will be a war of iran vs israel and usa, but because obummer is in office they'll have nukes. Let's not classify all the wars in the middle east as religious related. Iraq wars were more about oil than anything. They invaded kuwait, usa likes her oil so there we are. Afgan, Israel and the rest = same thing. USA wants stability in the region so the oil keeps flowing. Period.
Iran's been making progress in their nuclear energy program years before Obama took office. Don't blame the current president for a past president's mistakes.
If your talking about humankind world peace then i think it can be achievable.
No, it's not. Do you intend to please every single human being on the planet? It's not fucking possible.
Princess Ariel
March 18th, 2012, 10:08 AM
World peace will never be achieved, The stuff that we agree to in North America, the governments in Asia might disagree..
DanielD210
March 18th, 2012, 03:35 PM
Nope not untill Jesus comes back for His Believers!! =) its only going to get worse.
Amnesiac
March 18th, 2012, 03:49 PM
Nope not untill Jesus comes back for His Believers!! =) its only going to get worse.
I always thought the Second Coming was supposed to be the opposite of peace. I mean, leaving 4.5 billion people to die in a storm of hellfire? Yeah, that's really what I consider "world peace".
Sugaree
March 18th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Nope not untill Jesus comes back for His Believers!! =) its only going to get worse.
And what about the rest of us? Do we twiddle our thumbs as the world around us burns from the fires of Hell while you "good" people get saved?
dark_soul777
March 19th, 2012, 11:33 PM
I do. On the day the human race goes extinct and "civillisation" crumbles.
ImCoolBeans
March 20th, 2012, 12:18 AM
I always thought the Second Coming was supposed to be the opposite of peace. I mean, leaving 4.5 billion people to die in a storm of hellfire? Yeah, that's really what I consider "world peace".
And what about the rest of us? Do we twiddle our thumbs as the world around us burns from the fires of Hell while you "good" people get saved?
Yeah... the Second Coming isn't exactly depicted as peaches and cream. A large amount of people suffering a terrible death and damned to an eternity, I don't know, something about that just doesn't scream world peace.
Sugaree
March 20th, 2012, 12:34 AM
I do. On the day the human race goes extinct and "civillisation" crumbles.
Why did you put civilization in quotation marks? You act like it isn't a real thing.
Rage of the Menace
March 20th, 2012, 06:22 AM
Peace? No such thing has ever existed. As long as the human has the ability to think for himself, i don't think such a think can eve be achieved
In the Communist Manifesto, it's perfect on paper, but he Karl Marx and Mark Engels forgot one thing. The Human element. Humans are greedy and selfish by nature, and i for one, will not sacrifice my opinion so it suits someone else.
Peace, non-existant.
Gaybaby94
March 20th, 2012, 06:29 AM
Why did you put civilization in quotation marks? You act like it isn't a real thing.
Dude fucken ants are more civilized than we are.
Mortal Coil
March 20th, 2012, 07:03 AM
People are warlike. Since the beginning of our emergence as a specise there have been wars between tribes, and the fact that societies have built up around different sets of beliefs, coupled with resources running scarce, means that if we never could defy our nature, we won't be able to anymore.
User Deleted
March 20th, 2012, 09:02 AM
Sure. As soon as we're extinct that is. What other species gathers armies of thousands and fights? None. We're the only idiots who have to make huge groups and send them off to slaughter each other. For pity sake I have a friend who we even still fight occasionally after years of work. The best we have achieved if being able to forgive each other in no time, like an hour for a fist fight. Keep in mind that being able to forgive each other is good, yet the fact we fight in the first place remains.
If there was a time period where people didn't fight in mass groups and war I would think it was a time where people were more independent. Even if that were to happen there would still be fighting. There is fighting essentially between all life.
Now, let's take into consideration what was discussed about causes, oil and religiosity being starters of fights. Okay, but even without those people want more, people want power. There would be fighting over land, potentially food, metals, fresh water. Anything that brings money and power people will want. To remove war you must remove wants. The want for power, money, fighting, fame. But without wanting anything would we have goals? Would we want to be rich or successful? Smart? Famous?
Wanting brings us forward and it hinders us. We can not remove want, but why would we? It allows us to progress and in extremes keeps us alive. The root of the problem isn't the money, the oil, it is us. Human nature itself. Even the most primal part of us, wanting. To remove something so deeply ingrained in our being, presuming it was possible, would we even be human? I do not believe war, any fighting, will be wiped out as long as there is life.
We can resist fighting and war, but how long until someone greedy comes along and screws us over? It never seemed to take long in the big picture. Bottom line, I do not believe there will never be a removal of war.
Dude fucken ants are more civilized than we are.
GTFO and come back with some knowledge about ants. Most all living creatures fight. (that is plants dont... except the venus fly trap)
Genghis Khan
March 20th, 2012, 01:43 PM
Dude fucken ants are more civilized than we are.
Ants are always at war with different types of ants. This would be much like the religio-tribal wars that used to ensue in places like Central Asia, where if someone from one tribe were to enter enemy territory there would be a dispute. Plus, the workers and soldiers would all work for a common interest, which would be to serve the king and improve his kingdom.
Electra Heart
March 20th, 2012, 02:35 PM
Hello no, we're fucked xD
Sugaree
March 20th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Dude fucken ants are more civilized than we are.
True liberal indeed. Pull things out of your ass and act like it's a big steaming pile of raw facts. Ants are animals. Animals fight each other constantly. You really think ant civilization is at peace?
WickedWeekend
March 20th, 2012, 07:40 PM
True liberal indeed. Pull things out of your ass and act like it's a big steaming pile of raw facts. Ants are animals. Animals fight each other constantly. You really think ant civilization is at peace?
Are we seriously talking about ants?
kenoloor
March 20th, 2012, 10:27 PM
Are we seriously talking about ants?
Welcome to Ramblings Of The Wise: 2012.
Silver Teardrops
March 20th, 2012, 11:41 PM
World peace can never be achieved, and it is not due to religion, or war, but just because everyone fights and even if we start Ed to achieve world peace, the world will start running out of resources, and people will b e fighting for them.
Cicero
March 21st, 2012, 06:02 AM
Nope. Mankind isnt made to do that and issues will always divide people, whether it's religion, politics, personal viewpoints, or morals and values. Religions won't get over what God is the only or real God, politics will always argue on different sides, people will always love/hate abortion, and people will always agree/disagree with homosexuality. There will be world piece when everyone becomes robots and have no viewpoints.
NotYourSombrero
March 26th, 2012, 08:16 PM
Humans can't live in harmony. Our brains try to make order, creating social groups even without race, fame, money, or anything else that divides us.
Matt_is_Awesome
March 26th, 2012, 08:26 PM
I Dont think so. i think humans will always continue to fight and argue over the stupidest stuff and start crap that lead into wars. I think there's a better chance of the world ending because of Nuclear war than world peace. Just saying
Coolboi
March 26th, 2012, 08:36 PM
if two people were left on earth they would fight about some dam thing !!!
sorry lol it's life . never happen ! I wish world peace
Sporadica
March 27th, 2012, 01:27 PM
Only way that it could happen is if we had a one world government, because then people can eventually forget about their differences and start all thinking that they are on the big blue ball, notice how the EU hasn't had a war inside of it's countries since WW2? just sayin'
Efflorescence
March 27th, 2012, 02:51 PM
True liberal indeed. Pull things out of your ass and act like it's a big steaming pile of raw facts.
GTFO and come back with some knowledge about ants. Most all living creatures fight. (that is plants dont... except the venus fly trap)
Lol. Just lol. You've either got to be dumb or bullheaded and I'm guessing you're both.
Not while there is religion in the world!
Sorry, but the majority of conflicts on this planet revolve around religion.
*sigh*. This thread is sufficient to show that world peace can never be achieved. Not even forum peace let alone world peace lolololol. It's so ironic man.
RoseyCadaver
March 28th, 2012, 06:36 PM
I don't ever think we'll reach true world peace, where we're all living together only wearing a loin clothe. I do think that things might get better. I mean, they've gotten a lot better over time. Who's to say that they won't? But no I don't think we'll ever achieve world peace like some of us dream about.
but shit conflicts are what make some parts of living fun
Alias
March 28th, 2012, 10:12 PM
World Peace can never be achieved. If you seperated each ethnicity, culture, beleif, etc. into its own planet with the resources to live forever, lead luxurious lives, and never worry for a day in there life. There would still be war. People will hate eachother for EXISTING.
Sudds3
March 28th, 2012, 10:39 PM
No, with the rate of America....20% of our population is imprisoned.....I dont believe that everyone will be able to live in peace, it only takes one person out of the 7 billion to not be peacful to ruin world peace! But if you think world peace is peace between all the countries....i dont think so. With the violent past between us and other countries, it will be hard to forgive and live in peace
double r
March 28th, 2012, 11:26 PM
We will never be in peace. human nature is to be territorial, to kill, an to cause harm, we are just messed up that way.
Weber_Swagg
March 29th, 2012, 12:11 AM
No, people can't ever agree and they can't ever accept the differances. So I think people will fight as long as there is something to disagree about.
Jmihas
March 30th, 2012, 05:08 AM
Sadly but no.
JJSSHH
March 30th, 2012, 12:03 PM
No. People will always argue. In my opinion, its religions fault.
plebble
March 30th, 2012, 02:23 PM
Huh? Do you?! DO YOU!!!!!?
Lol no, this world is always gonna be a nightmare :P
No. People will always argue. In my opinion, its religions fault.
I agree.
FojeJC
March 30th, 2012, 02:40 PM
Where human beings go, chaos follows.
Sugaree
March 30th, 2012, 02:46 PM
No. People will always argue. In my opinion, its religions fault.
Nice job ignoring the other posts in this thread.
mranderson
March 30th, 2012, 08:47 PM
absolutly not
jackson94
March 31st, 2012, 02:34 AM
As long as war is profitable for those in power...no.
Burn007
April 10th, 2012, 04:59 PM
heck no...while idiots are born atleast
Truth
April 10th, 2012, 08:12 PM
The day that there is no religion, people can overlook skin-color, and the government isn't corrupt - maybe.
KewlKat
April 11th, 2012, 11:41 AM
No. If the fate of the world depended on it, everybody would take that opportunity to fight even more before we clocked out.
I completely agree with the above statement :)
khila
April 13th, 2012, 05:54 PM
yup as soon as the elves take over and the moon grows legs...no because we are an intellegant species even in the animal kingdom u get lions fighting each other for territory and monkeys for food honestly any species on this planet is programmed to kill each other and ourselves off why? because it keeps populations from going out of control and like it or not we are animals
Truth
April 13th, 2012, 06:03 PM
yup as soon as the elves take over and the moon grows legs...no because we are an intellegant species even in the animal kingdom u get lions fighting each other for territory and monkeys for food honestly any species on this planet is programmed to kill each other and ourselves off why? because it keeps populations from going out of control and like it or not we are animals See what I mean? When people who aren't intelligent enough to understand the concept of world peace like this guy, die off - we will have a perfect chance to actually spread peace across the world. In my opinion, humans are a lot more complex than animals. We adapt to different situations to preserve our way of life. If it comes to a point where there are only intellectual individuals left alive and they must work together, I can guarantee that it would change.
AbbaZabba
April 15th, 2012, 04:11 PM
I don't see it happening, but who knows. Would be nice.
Smeagol
April 17th, 2012, 03:09 PM
I don't think so, because of people's inherent nature to be argumentative. Even if all countries are at peace, there is still likely to be terroristic factioins (of any nationality, race and religion) who want whatever they want and wish to use violent means to achieve their goal.
Fractured Silhouette
April 18th, 2012, 05:26 AM
No. There will always be conflict. I mean, it's in our nature to fight over stuff. It's one of the few things human beings are good at.
Texas warrior
April 27th, 2012, 12:16 PM
Nope, as long as warriors walk this earth then we will have war.
McNoodle
May 1st, 2012, 07:25 AM
Conflict is inevitable. No matter what we do, there will always be conflict within society. We cannot stop it, it is pretty much impossible to do so. And if we did, we would just crumble. We need the balance of good and evil, because they both compliment each other. If we had no good, majority of the world would be dead, but if we had no evil, many things that have changed the world for good would no longer exist. World peace will never be reached.
Truth
May 3rd, 2012, 04:57 PM
Conflict is inevitable. No matter what we do, there will always be conflict within society. We cannot stop it, it is pretty much impossible to do so. And if we did, we would just crumble. We need the balance of good and evil, because they both compliment each other. If we had no good, majority of the world would be dead, but if we had no evil, many things that have changed the world for good would no longer exist. World peace will never be reached. Violence is used in place of intelligent. Humans who are not intelligent enough to come to a mutual agreement that will benefit both parties turn to violence. Violence is committed due to stupidity; and some day humans will evolve to a point where all people who lack intelligence will be dead.
Rage of the Menace
May 3rd, 2012, 11:16 PM
World peace is only achievable if the Human Population is decreased drastically, maybe 95% less, have an autocratic or totalitarian government, brainwash whatever's left of the population and leave the oligarchy with free mind and control.
In other words, Highly Unlikely.
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