Stop Kony2012

[Dimentio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&feature=youtu.be
Guys i have ADD and i sat through this whole video! I will get my account banned if i have too, Will you do the same? We need to spread awareness! Help stop Kony!

[embers]

It's funny how people just up and care about this shit after twenty odd years.

[Dimentio]

I would of cared if i had known but i didn't ha ha.
Is there any REAL proof to that though!?

[embers]

Anyway, I'm not in support of the movement for this (http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/post/18890947431/we-got-trouble) reason, although I can't say I know that much about it.

[UnknownError]

If I see one more fucking post about this.

[Dimentio]

Sorry guys but i am posting this for a good cause and because i care, I have seen these guys have had their past but i am giving them a chance.
Genghis Khan, That is true, But by buying thing, Putting up posters and sending in money you can do that! Think of these 30,000+ CHILDREN being upducted, Raped, Used as sex slaves, Killing friends or even your own parents, And think of the TONS more with the fear to sleep due to this and like the food and water situation they are in already, Just imagine being these kids.

[Genghis Khan]

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[PoseidonX43]

-.- i see this shit enough already,

[Electra Heart]

Ugh... I get people have good intentions, but the number of people liking a FaceBook page isn't going to do shit...

[Suicune]

Sorry guys but i am posting this for a good cause and because i care, I have seen these guys have had their past but i am giving them a chance.
Genghis Khan, That is true, But by buying thing, Putting up posters and sending in money you can do that! Think of these 30,000+ CHILDREN being upducted, Raped, Used as sex slaves, Killing friends or even your own parents, And think of the TONS more with the fear to sleep due to this and like the food and water situation they are in already, Just imagine being these kids.

I don't see how giving money to a group who swears to prevent the rapes of children in Uganda are working with the country's armies who are also accused of rape does anything productive. If you see that a charity has an awful history, why give them a cent?

Ember's link to the blog post again (http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/post/18890947431/we-got-trouble)
Invisible Children's spending over recent years. (http://c2052482.r82.cf0.rackcdn.com/images/737/original/FY11-Audited%20Financial%20Statements.pdf?1320205055)

[Syvelocin]

Think of these 30,000+ CHILDREN being abducted, Raped, Used as sex slaves

And what about the kids going through that shit within our own borders? Who the fuck is doing anything about them? We need to deal with our own issues before we fuck with other countries. Though the US government loves to fuck with other countries.

And if you want to make change the world, you need to be a little more proactive than what they're asking for.

[Triceratops]

Why is it that people are still referring to the Invisible Children movement as "Kony 2012" when it has been around for years? It didn't come around this year.

[Hatsune Miku]

Hey guys lets all hop on the bandwagon and make a Facebook status, that will stop him!

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/263/936/ca0.jpg

[Dimentio]

I have put money towards it and am spreading the awarness to stop him so stop being dicks about it please, It is a serious thing and i have done more then most to help it.

[TeddyBearRock]

Its called kony 2012 as this year they have the take the night thing going on

[StoppingTime]

I have put money towards it and am spreading the awarness to stop him so stop being dicks about it please, It is a serious thing and i have done more then most to help it.

But you dont have any real idea as to where your money is going, and what it will eventually be used for.

And yes, this has been around for a while, I love that once it's on Facebook, people think they've solved the problem by publicizing it.

[Dimentio]

Yeah them people are urm, Choosign my words carefully here ha ha, Slightly simple minded thinking pressing like can stop a man but they are trying at least.

[deadpie]

I'll just repost what I posted in the other thread if that's ok, which is kind of dumb because there shouldn't be two threads in the first place...

------dgdsfdfs (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1643578#post1643578)

As much as I hate Joseph Kony, which is quite obvious because one of my most angriest posts on here was towards him, I still had to do my research...

http://i.imgur.com/sbaiR.jpg

source (http://youtu.be/wkB8o5VWAjE?t=4m46s) ""most people view us as a non-profit, a charity. We view ourselves as a business, as a company."

xW3XeT7qavo

Something interesting to consider.

The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces...

...Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away.

The movie feels like it’s about the filmmakers, and not the cause. There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. It’s often not an accidental choice of words, even if it’s unwitting. It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint.

The idea that popular opinion can be leveraged with viral marketing to induce foreign military intervention is really, really dangerous. It is immoral to try and sell a sanitised vision of foreign intervention that neglects the fact that people will die as a result.

Good source. (http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/kony2012-and-its-critics-0022087)

Another nice thing to read about here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/03/goodies_and_baddies.html)

This too! (http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1320/18249/Barry-from-Look-What-I-Did-responds-to-Invisible-Children-Organization.html)

What I'm trying to say is things are more complicated than you think and it's best not to be a sheep, but actually research things.

[StoppingTime]

Yeah them people are urm, Choosign my words carefully here ha ha, Slightly simple minded thinking pressing like can stop a man but they are trying at least.

But are they? How do they know?

[kenoloor]

I see the bandwagon activism has leaked into The White Padded Room. I give this two weeks to die down and be forgotten by the majority of the population.

[ImCoolBeans]

I'll just repost what I posted in the other thread if that's ok, which is kind of dumb because there shouldn't be two threads in the first place...

------dgdsfdfs (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1643578#post1643578)

As much as I hate Joseph Kony, which is quite obvious because one of my most angriest posts on here was towards him, I still had to do my research...

image (http://i.imgur.com/sbaiR.jpg)

source (http://youtu.be/wkB8o5VWAjE?t=4m46s) ""most people view us as a non-profit, a charity. We view ourselves as a business, as a company."

xW3XeT7qavo

Something interesting to consider.





The idea that popular opinion can be leveraged with viral marketing to induce foreign military intervention is really, really dangerous. It is immoral to try and sell a sanitised vision of foreign intervention that neglects the fact that people will die as a result.

Good source. (http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/kony2012-and-its-critics-0022087)

Another nice thing to read about here. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/03/goodies_and_baddies.html)

This too! (http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1320/18249/Barry-from-Look-What-I-Did-responds-to-Invisible-Children-Organization.html)

What I'm trying to say is things are more complicated than you think and it's best not to be a sheep, but actually research things.
This

I see the bandwagon activism has leaked into The White Padded Room. I give this two weeks to die down and be forgotten by the majority of the population.
And This

Invisible Children isn't exactly what they present themselves to be. For an organization which wants to bring peace to a group of people they are awfully supportive of military force - but wait, doesn't Kony have an army of children? Don't they want to put an end to that? When did American soldiers going over to Africa to fight against Kony, when his army is actually made up of children and teenagers, sound like a good idea?

Invisible Children supports the Ugandan army, which is very well know for raping and looting; they even went as far as posing with troops. They made about 6-8 million dollars last year, 33% of which was actually donated while the remaining funds were put back into the organization - doesn't really sound right to me.

But like Bradi said, I think this will all die down in a few weeks when people begin to realize that Kony won't be caught within the next month.

[TheMatrix]

And what about the kids going through that shit within our own borders? Who the fuck is doing anything about them? We need to deal with our own issues before we fuck with other countries. Though the US government loves to fuck with other countries.
This.

There are many people in the US alone that have the exact same issues as the children in Uganda etc. But there's no big stories about that every week in the news, mostly because the majority of the population isn't interested in what happens within our borders(unless it affects them). Perhaps someone should make an organisation for that(hmm, now there's a thought...).
Don't get me wrong -- I agree that Kony is terrible, and efforts should be made to stop him. But this is just as silly as the royal wedding shit(which everyone already forgot about).

[Peace God]

There are many people in the US alone that have the exact same issues as the children in Uganda etc
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzesd5xuJc1qd4sr4.gif

[Amaryllis]

When I first saw this I was pretty damn pissed. For a while, Kony, rape and torture was all anyone would talk about. It angered and annoyed me to see all these posters and videos that just said "Kony," what are we even meant to do? How is knowing Kony's name going to solve anything. And what about us, who have to, like Rith said, deal with it on our own.

It took a few minutes to realise how unsympathetic I was being. How self-absorbed I was. Sure, we went through some horrible things and our own countries have a lot to work on but maybe this is a good chance for us to look beyond our own problems. To be a part of something that doesn't really effect us.

We look out for ourselves a lot, no shit. Humans are motivated by self-interest. We get so caught up in want we want, what we think others should do, what we wish will happen and how unfortunate our own lives are.

The invisible children charity is actually doing. And being a child soldier cannot be pleasant. I can only use that much of my empathy to come semi-close to understanding how it must feel. Who cares if they're not a part of our own nations or our own homes. It's an opportunity to not be so self-centered.

I highly doubt the US military is going to go off killing kids from Kony's army. It's not in their best interests to do so. Then again, I don't understand Americans that well, maybe your government really is that fucking dumb. They were pretty foolish getting involved in the Vietnam War. I don't even really understand the Kony thing all that much, but if it makes humans a little nicer, well, that can't be too bad.

It might just all be propaganda and idiocy. But at least it'll unite us in some shape way or form. It's good practice for being understanding and it comforts me to know I still have some bit of empathy left. And it makes me hate the world a little less.

[Mortal Coil]

Look, I don't support Kony, he's a jackass, but Invisible Children is supporting American military intervention, and when has that ever improved our reputation? We're always accused of meddling in other people's affairs, and in this case it won't even be justifiable because we have no reason to intervene that relates to our country's ability to function politically, financially etc.
It's like the hippie movement: they didn't support communism, but also didn't like the Vietnam war, which was against communism. Well I don't like Knoy or Invisible Children.

[Dimentio]

Guys in England we have a lot of issues too and involving poor people and homeless people and stuff and i would LOVE to help them and want to try, Being poor really myself i know what it is like, But these kids are going through worse and i love to help others before myself so i want to help these guys, The least we could do is stop Kony, But then them other kids might carry on from him but at least we did something.

[Hatsune Miku]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427569_401226263237116_354012061291870_1587674_1024225473_n.jpg

This.

[dead]

>donate money to stop rape
>give money to rapists

[Donkey]

The White Padded Room -> Ramblings of the Wise

[Electra Heart]

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This.

Ok, well Hitler wasn't the worst either FYI, just the one with the most publicity. I mean, Stalin killed WAY more people, and I'm sure that there's someone out there even worse.

[StoppingTime]

Ok, well Hitler wasn't the worst either FYI, just the one with the most publicity. I mean, Stalin killed WAY more people, and I'm sure that there's someone out there even worse.

Does that make it any better? Of course, they were both crazy, but does just because there are worse things happening/that happened, we shouldn't help?

[kenoloor]

Does that make it any better? Of course, they were both crazy, but does just because there are worse things happening/that happened, we shouldn't help?

No. But a gross distortion of facts is not a professional, honest, or cool way of convincing people into supporting a campaign.

[deadpie]

History Of Foreign Aid In Africa. (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:hNFRhlLS9R0J:migs.concordia.ca/documents/TurningtheLightsOnRevised.doc+&hl=en&gl=au&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiaUJVW9rJLidxpwBkyNAin_L5HFHO0ntuPOf5JftLX3IHYt8diWwcIx9o27LS894Lxn5 oLmJe_OkWZJBJxjJKVSJr7m6_jpxCPeg08eUwNOz1EfwxafdXtpNIGZ0uOc_162Eii&sig=AHIEtbSdfI9LXSulWRTQBP0eRlcAFLXm0Q&pli=1)

I am a researcher based at the Centre of African Studies, Edinburgh University and have been working on northern Uganda since 2009. This includes field work, academic publishing, advising the Foreign Ministry of Finland on the topic (I was based in Helsinki until 2010), and using the case in postgraduate courses I teach on the topics 'Development & Security in Africa' and 'Mineral Extraction in Africa'.

Your blog already cites other experts pointing out that the LRA has been outside Uganda for several years, is far smaller than Invisible Children try to make believe, and that the Ugandan government and army are a deeply problematic ally in their campaign. I second all these points, based on my own research and that of my colleagues.

The Guardian has widely reported recent electoral violence and the persecution of opposition leader, homosexuals and journalists in Uganda. This is clearly sanctioned, even driven by the country's leadership. The persecution of homosexuals is also strongly driven (and funded) by American-based Christian fundamentalist groups, who also see Uganda as a frontline in the cultural war against Islam, thanks to the Museveni regimie's outspoken (and military-strategis) support of the US 'War on Terror'.

There is also wide consensus in the scholarly community on the following facts:

While the extreme atrocities committed by the LRA cannot be justified by any 'political cause', the LRA did originally emerge as a direct reaction to extreme atrocities committed since the late 1980s by the government and armed forces of Uganda against the Acholi people in northern Uganda. The person in charge since 1986 until today is Ugandan president Yoweri Museveni, who is himself a former rebel army leader and came to power by force.

The Ugandan army and military, including members of the family of the president, are known to have cashed in on the country's sending of troops to participate in the civil war of Congo DRC in the 1990s. The enrichment schemes involve the plundering of timber and high-value minerals like gold, diamonds and coltan in eastern DRC and the creation of false payment and pension schemes for army sections that do not exist ('ghost soldiers'). The DRC case led to a high-profile investigation by the UN and in the final report from 2001 Uganda was singled out for its involvement.

Source. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/mar/08/kony-2012-what-s-the-story)

hpAMbpQ8J7g

The other half of my post (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1643544&postcount=25) from that thread in News section of VT that I edited. Just thought I'd throw this in here too.

also

>donate money to stop rape
>give money to rapists

Triple edit: Invisible Children "Kony 2012" Leader Suggests It's About Jesus and Evangelizing (http://www.alternet.org/visions/154477/invisible_children_%22kony_2012%22_leader_suggests_it's_about_jesus_and_evangeli zing__/)

[PerpetualImperfexion]

1.) This is old news I don't understand why people suddenly start caring.
2.) The movie these same people made generated a profit of over $250,000.
3.) This video has 58,000,000 views.
4.) This channel is a partner
5.) I don't know how much money partners make for each view but 58,000,000 x = 250,000, divide both sides... x = 0.0043. I would say they have easily reached their goal.

So what's my point? It's all a scam to make money.

[Sugaree]

There are many people in the US alone that have the exact same issues as the children in Uganda etc.

Oh yes, the children in the United States have to face possible death every day just like the children in Uganda. The children in the United States need to be careful not to injure themselves because there aren't any hospitals nearby, just like the children in Uganda. The children in the United States go for days and days without a single meal, just like the children in Uganda.

Do you have any idea what you just said? You compared the United States to a third world country. There is no way you can do that. Children in Uganda would be grateful for all the things you probably have. Children in the United States are spoiled and like to think they share the same struggles as those in third world countries. They don't.

[Hatsune Miku]

For those who donated, how does it feel to be scammed? Conned? Tricked? Ali baba? Kony died 5 years ago. Don't believe me? There. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Kony+died+5+years+ago) You're really going to believe all this just because somebody made a 30 minutes video about it and paid off some kid from Uganda? "Hey kid you say this shit on camera and I'll take you to America."

[khila]

here i will tell u hes alive however only 30% of donations actually goes towards the cause i realize they need to stay in buissness in order for there to be a cause. However hes been at this for 26 years why did we JUST hear of him? it raises questions to be sure however all i know is hes alive and kicking and still active dont believe me look at this (http://www.lracrisistracker.com) however there is an alternitive modive im still sturgleing to find out what tho with out going all conspirsy theroest (and no one say oil)

[Lights]

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I lol'd.

Sadly, I think that the Kony movement is really just people jumping on a bandwagon with all of their friends.

rAm_oaylhqw

This guy's views are interesting. I think he makes some good points. How interesting would it be if Kony really did die 5 years ago, and this Kony movement was really just a conspiracy for the Americans to steal oil from Uganda? The top rated comment on that video explains the idea behind the conspiracy (warning: horrific grammar follows):

Joseph Kony Died 5 Years Ago.... There Is A Oil Rig In Uganda And The Americans Want It . There Using KONY As A Cover Up Just So They Can Attack Uganda For Its Oil They Dont Give A Fuck If The Kids Die Or Not.. They Want The Oil For Money..... Its Kinda Sad Because America Is Soo Powerful And Rich .. They Dont Need The Money But The Africans Do .. Yet USA Steal There Oil -.- When You Give Money To The KONY project You Help Fund The Attack/War.

This is the biggest load of bullshit ever if the money being donated is really just funding the Americans to attack Uganda and steal oil. My instincts tell me this is not what's actually going on, but you can never really rule out the possibility.

[Peace God]

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also this...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0kpsfgyLL1qeq2vpo1_400.jpg
also this...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0phvmQZUP1qfh9qfo1_500.jpg

This is the biggest load of bullshit ever if the money being donated is really just funding the Americans to attack Uganda and steal oil. My instincts tell me this is not what's actually going on, but you can never really rule out the possibility.
Lets admit this is fishy. Last year they find a fuckton of oil and next thing you know there's us military presence in uganda to stop a problem that was at it's peak over a decade ago. Although we know that it doesnt take foriegn forces to steal from Africa, just look a Nigeria (*plays Fela Kuti's International Thief Thief in the background*).

[Syntax]

*facepalms* Does Invisible Children Inc. even research its facts? Seriously? Don't they even know that the United States is notorious for installing puppet dictators and the like?

[Erasmus]

I mean, it's a good idea, but he was just arrested. I mean, how real can it be?

[Noah Thorpe]

I would of cared if i had known but i didn't ha ha.
Is there any REAL proof to that though!?

It's funny how people just up and care about this shit after twenty odd years.

@Embers, I agree right? LOL



@Kieran283, Kony was last seen like, 6 years ago, and the people they asked from was the same area in Africa that the children were taken from.

It's humorous knowing that people started caring after what; 2 weeks?

[ImCoolBeans]

The hype has basically gone away, pretty much just like I predicted. A few weeks later it would be dying down and it wouldn't be the talk of the town anymore, here we are a few weeks later.

[Thunduhbuhlt]

The hype has basically gone away, pretty much just like I predicted. A few weeks later it would be dying down and it wouldn't be the talk of the town anymore, here we are a few weeks later.

Exactly, these things never last for long. Soon enough, there will be another cause celebre to talk about, and surely we here in ROTW will be all over it.

[The Flash]

Its just a load of poop

[Tucker13]

Yeah I believed it at first but know I don't

[The Flash]

Yeah I believed it at first but know I don't

never believed always thoguht the whole thing was pure shit :)
i stick with my instincts

[Bath]

Don't bump threads older than 2 months. :locked: