i want to smoke

[mynameisjane]

where i'm from not a lot of people smoke. then i moved to where i am now and theres smokers everywhere. my school even has a smoker's corner. all my life i've known that smoking is very bad for you and it makes you look ugly over time and most smokers die early for it. but now, i can't believe i'm saying this, smoking looks really cool. when i see a smoker, i see someone whos dangerous, who lives life for the moment and to the fullest, a badass. and ive always loved the smell of cigarettes. im starting to think i dont care to live a long life, but i want to live a great life. my friend said all the guys stay away from me because i'm too much of a good girl. though smoking has its health risks, i think it would make me feel better about my self image. i took a drag from a cigarette once and i didnt feel like i absolutely needed to take another so maybe if i start, im not going to get super addicted. my friends say smoking helped calm them and got them through tough times. i turn 17 next week so i'm only going to have to get my friends to get cigarettes for me and hide my smoking for a year. so please convince me not to smoke.

[MoveAlong]

You can't control addictions that easily! You may or may not get super addicted.

And remember your thread about kissing? I've read around the internet a lot, and I can tell you that every time I read any article, the person who is kissing the smoker doesn't enjoy it. That's one way to be a bad kisser - smoking makes your breath stink
Worse than fish >.<

+ it might make you look better to yourself, but not to a whole lotta others. Plus, it contains nail polish! Who wants to stick nail polish in their mouth! :-x

Don't do it. I thought of you in a good way when you posted some nice advice. Altho this'll make me look at you a diff way, and that'll happen to other people too. Your habits effect how people look at you; i.e. your how obsessive you are, if you wash your hands etc.
Don't smoke and start a nasty habit...I know I never will :|

Request move to Drugs and Meds or TWPR, this isn't exactly Cutting and Self Harm (even tho it would harm you a bit)

[mynameisjane]

i'm not sure what to say to that. i'm sorry you dont like me anymore because im considering smoking to make myself feel cooler? i've said stuff here thats so personal i dont care about maintaining an image here. ive been thinking about smoking for a while so i came here for help without judgement because i know its probably not a good idea to start. i didnt expect people to not like me because ive considered an unhealthy way to help my insecurities.

i use mouthwash between classes and gum during class. i'm kinda obsessed about my breath. i dont think smoking would effect my breath very much. it wouldnt get in my clothes and hair if i smoked in a well ventilated area. i dont plan on letting many people know i smoke. i like the thought of being bad with very few people knowing. it wouldnt bother me anymore when people think i'm a good girl. i guess i'd let my smoker friends know because id need them to get me cigarettes. i wouldnt even want to smoke at school. i'd smoke outside on rare occasions when i go for walks at night.

[MoveAlong]

i'm not sure what to say to that. i'm sorry you dont like me anymore because im considering smoking to make myself feel cooler? i've said stuff here thats so personal i dont care about maintaining an image here. ive been thinking about smoking for a while so i came here for help without judgement because i know its probably not a good idea to start. i didnt expect people to not like me because ive considered an unhealthy way to help my insecurities.
I never said I didn't like you anymore - it's just that it says something about your personality, and I view it as bad. I mean, you can still give good advice.

Plus, it does not make you cooler! Who made you think that?

i guess i'd let my smoker friends know because id need them to get me cigarettes. i wouldnt even want to smoke at school. i'd smoke outside on rare occasions when i go for walks at night.
Smoking is physically addictive - your body would want it. My mom's a former smoker, and she says it was the hardest thing she's ever done (quitting). She's told me that it's incredibly hard to smoke 'when you feel like it' 'cause it's physically addictive.

+ She oughta know something, she did study medicine.

[Aηdy]

Your health is more important than being cool anyway... is it cool to be dead before your 50?

[mynameisjane]

smoking is cool because a lot of badass characters in movies and shows smoke. so thats how i associate it with that. i dont care to live until i'm 50. idk maybe its because it feels like forever from now.

[MoveAlong]

Hmm, well we can't convince you if you aren't going to give us some doubt.

Plus that's a misconception there. It may be badass, but that doesn't make it a good decision. I don't know how to convince you not to if you want to do it so bad Maybe it's better for you, and it's something you want to do, but I don't support it. Sorry :|

[mynameisjane]

i'm glad you dont not like me anymore. alright maybe i dont want to smoke.

idk.

i feel so insecure. i hang out with guys and i get irrationably jealous when they oggle girls. i dont say anything about it. i am so pathetic and starved for attention that i need to feel degraded by them and their rude comments towards me. i mean, they like me as a friend and i dont let them know i feel degraded and i just laugh when they say these things. id feel uglier without their retarded sexual innuendo towards me. but i cant stand that i am not as pretty as the girls they drool over and theirs nothing i can do about it. and i will continue to look the way i do with little difference for my prime dating years because i'm almost through with puberty. i'm pretty enough for any of the guys i hang out with to want to screw, but i cant date anyone because i know there's someone else who they think is prettier who they'd rather be with!

ugh. idk. i feel if i smoke, maybe some guy will notice something about me, an edgieness, that would set me apart from these other girls.

[MoveAlong]

Now see, that was a whole lot better of a post. =]

Tho I think that if a guy wants to be with someone better looking than me, they're not really someone I want to be with because they don't care enough about me, and good relationships take patience (which I have like 0 patience)
I'm not the best on relationship advice but I know there's some others that will reply and say more =]

[mynameisjane]

i'm jealous and i know most guys are shallow. even if a guy were to tell me i'm beautiful and he wants to be with me and not her, i'd think he was lying because hes only with me because he thinks she's out of his league. i just got dumped like i'm nothing a couple weeks ago for a prettier girl who he didnt know as well. i liked him for a long time and we were friends for several months and the relationship that we were just starting felt like it was going to be so strong. we spent an entire amazing night just talking about everything and flirting until we fell asleep. and the next day he pretends he barely knows me and oggles the other girl.

id like to post this in relationships and dating, but theres nothing anyone could do to help me.

[mynameisjane]

i also dont know if i can post this twice.

[MoveAlong]

i also dont know if i can post this twice.

You can ask a Gmod or Admin to move it (our mods in the Psych Forums are inactive) for you, tho it's good here to but it's your decision.

Double posting a thread doesn't go over well.

[Hyper]

where i'm from not a lot of people smoke. then i moved to where i am now and theres smokers everywhere. my school even has a smoker's corner. all my life i've known that smoking is very bad for you and it makes you look ugly over time and most smokers die early for it. but now, i can't believe i'm saying this, smoking looks really cool. when i see a smoker, i see someone whos dangerous, who lives life for the moment and to the fullest, a badass. and ive always loved the smell of cigarettes. im starting to think i dont care to live a long life, but i want to live a great life. my friend said all the guys stay away from me because i'm too much of a good girl. though smoking has its health risks, i think it would make me feel better about my self image. i took a drag from a cigarette once and i didnt feel like i absolutely needed to take another so maybe if i start, im not going to get super addicted. my friends say smoking helped calm them and got them through tough times. i turn 17 next week so i'm only going to have to get my friends to get cigarettes for me and hide my smoking for a year. so please convince me not to smoke.


You sure you are 16? Cuz you sure do think like a 11-13 year old..

Don't smoke as easy as that

And if you do, congratulations you are a (Insert word which begins with a i and ends with a t here) Just because some kid smokes doesn't mean his some ''badass'' and has some ''awesome teen lifezorz!'' Just means he/she is some idiot who follows others ;P

[Sage]

Oh, grow up and get real. Being cool doesnt matter. If what other people think of you is enough to make you want to fuck up your life- you have serious self-image problems.

"I smoke two packs a day! My lungs are bleeding! I'm going to die! What could be cooler than that?"

P.S. Oh, and I agree with Hyper, you dont seem 16.

[mynameisjane]

HEY, why is it that people harm themselves in this forum and i think of harming myself and i get told to grow up? what people think of me matters. i'm only human. if it makes a difference, im not intending on doing it so i can smoke with the smokers, i'm hoping that smoking secretly will change my personality somehow because i hate who i am. i posted this because i have a problem and i'm considering an unhealthy way of dealing with it. i dont know how to deal with my problems.

You sure you are 16? Cuz you sure do think like a 11-13 year old..


yeah, because no one starts smoking after age 13.

[Hyper]

HEY, why is it that people harm themselves in this forum and i think of harming myself and i get told to grow up? what people think of me matters. i'm only human. if it makes a difference, im not intending on doing it so i can smoke with the smokers, i'm hoping that smoking secretly will change my personality somehow because i hate who i am. i posted this because i have a problem and i'm considering an unhealthy way of dealing with it. i dont know how to deal with my problems.



yeah, because no one starts smoking after age 13.


Yes usually they don't...

Let me explain what we both tried to say.. It is self harm because you want to smoke just to ''look cool'', it is self harm to your health.. Most people I mean like 99.99% of people get serious issues with their smoking in time, and everyone gets some deductance from the physical abilities

Just because you want to be cool, and a jackass who runs after every idiot phase, doesn't mean you have to smoke, you can be cool without smoking.

[MoveAlong]

As blunt as they were, I think Fred and Tim were right to a certain point (not the age part tho, I believe you)

But the point is, what settle for some immediate gratitude right now when it's gonna harm you in the long run? It's a decision you're gonna have to make.

Relationships get better with age. Plus, you might never have a real good boyfriend even after you smoke. Teen relationships in general aren't that strong.
Lots of people prefer non-smokers, ESPECIALLY when kissing.

[Hyper]

And eventually your breath will go horrible.. Your teeth will go yellowish, completly sometimes..

And if your mouth and throat is a weak spot you could get a nasty infection there, and alot of bad shiz

[Sapphire]

HEY, why is it that people harm themselves in this forum and i think of harming myself and i get told to grow up? what people think of me matters. i'm only human. if it makes a difference, im not intending on doing it so i can smoke with the smokers, i'm hoping that smoking secretly will change my personality somehow because i hate who i am. i posted this because i have a problem and i'm considering an unhealthy way of dealing with it. i dont know how to deal with my problems.

Where do you get off comparing your childish and immature desire to be "cool" with someone who has only one way of coping with the stress in their life?!

You know that this is unhealthy and still seem to be chasing this idea rather than looking to other healthier ways of improving the way you feel about yourself. You came here asking to be persuaded against it, which is what people have tried to do. You haven't asked for advice on improving the core root of the problem, or even expressed a wish to. All I have read from you is "it'll make me cooler" "they'll find me more attractive" and a load of other shallow bullshit.

My advice is work on the underlying issue (your self image) and quit this "smoking is cool" thing you have going on. It won't be easy, but once you have made some headway on it you will feel much better and more comfortable in yourself.

Some people find saying "I am good looking" "I am a good person" or something similar about 5 times a day infront of a mirror helps. It is hard at the beginning, but it gets easier.
Others find exercise (yoga and swimming especially) helps tone your muscles which can improve the way you feel about your appearence.
Little things like these can help with your state of mind and your health at the same time a lot better than smoking ever will. And once you are more comfortable with yourself guys will be drawn to you more.

[Hyper]

Where do you get off comparing your childish and immature desire to be "cool" with someone who has only one way of coping with the stress in their life?!

You know that this is unhealthy and still seem to be chasing this idea rather than looking to other healthier ways of improving the way you feel about yourself. You came here asking to be persuaded against it, which is what people have tried to do. You haven't asked for advice on improving the core root of the problem, or even expressed a wish to. All I have read from you is "it'll make me cooler" "they'll find me more attractive" and a load of other shallow bullshit.

My advice is work on the underlying issue (your self image) and quit this "smoking is cool" thing you have going on. It won't be easy, but once you have made some headway on it you will feel much better and more comfortable in yourself.

Some people find saying "I am good looking" "I am a good person" or something similar about 5 times a day infront of a mirror helps. It is hard at the beginning, but it gets easier.
Others find exercise (yoga and swimming especially) helps tone your muscles which can improve the way you feel about your appearence.
Little things like these can help with your state of mind and your health at the same time a lot better than smoking ever will. And once you are more comfortable with yourself guys will be drawn to you more.


QFT

Yes a person has to feel good about him/her-self if they want others to feel good about them

[Antares]

well i dont suggest you start.
i know that you hear people saying well its bad but truly it is. i have had 1 family member die in there 40s from smoking and it truly was a horrible thing to bear. it basically ruined their life. Its a horrible habit and most people cant stop doing it. also its pretty expensive. but dont start for the sake of your body and the people that love you becusae most people that start regret it!
also i find it very unattractive!

[mynameisjane]

yeah, i appreciate the non-name calling input. i mean, i've heard the facts before, i guess i just need to be reminded. i dont know what i'm thinking.

[Antares]

im glad i can help you think about it :wub:

[MoveAlong]

im glad i can help you think about it :wub:

Umm, some of the other people that posted should get some credit too :-/

[Antares]

ohh im sorry i said your welcome to the person that thanked me
dude chill

[MoveAlong]

ok then
dude chill
You think I'm overreacting? I'm not.

[Antares]

i think that you are but...whatever....

[mynameisjane]

whoa i thank everyone who didnt call me names. i didnt mean to start an argument.
movealong was the first to reply and made me realize my real problem so i thank him for that. orchdork made good points without criticizing me, which i really appreciate because thats why i post here, because i want to express how i feel without criticizm. i guess i thank everyone else just for paying attenion to my post, though i dont know why they have to get so rude to me for what i decide to do to my own body.

[Antares]

well the point is is that you made up your mind which was the point of the thread soo... Have a Great Week!!!

[t0mb0ii13]

plz dont do this to urself.

smokings NOT cool

my friends great uncle died from this, he was the greatest man ever.
he dreamed of flying airplanes all day. hed watch them from a window in his house. he helped some ppl i no alot.

if you dont want to listen to this tho, just think that if you get lung disease, that more ppl than you can imagine wil be hurt over ur loss:( thats all i haf to say

[Whisper]

umm

self harm --> drugs

[Φρανκομβριτ]

old thread + argument = Locking