9/11 Conspiracy Theories

[Thunduhbuhlt]

Do you believe in them? If you don't understand then look here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories)

Share some thoughts? I believe it is...there is just too many things that don't make sense. There are 19 videos on YouTube about it. It totals to about 3 hours, but they are really cool. They can be found here. (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=9/11+coincidences&nfpr=0)

[Dimitri]

Okay, so there needs to be a Okay, time to put on our "Big Boy Pants" and get the fuck over it....

Using Wikipedia as a resource, one that I can create an account and then go in a change any information I want....use, this is a valid argument that you have supported through the use of Wikipedia....

Second, how do you know any of these videos are accurate?

Noting the first video having a reference to masonic involvement, dear fucking god, I am a mason myself, there is nothing there, I promise you.

When you have some legitimate evidentiary support you come and talk to me....

[Thunduhbuhlt]

Let's get on our non douche bag pants thank you. And I have researched about things such as controlled demolitions, steel, the World Trade Center history, the air traffic control units on 9/11 and a lot more. i used Wikipedia as a source because it sums it up, the same as the videos. NO need to be that negative to others people's beliefs.

[Dimitri]

Let's get on our non douche bag pants thank you. And I have researched about things such as controlled demolitions, steel, the World Trade Center history, the air traffic control units on 9/11 and a lot more. i used Wikipedia as a source because it sums it up, the same as the videos. NO need to be that negative to others people's beliefs.

Then why not, if you HAVE researched these topics post them instead, it would then show that you have taken and put int he time and effort in your thoughts....

By you using Wikipedia to SUM IT UP as you say shows me that you believe in short-cuts, you don't go the extra mile to prove yourself....work on it honey....

[Thunduhbuhlt]

If i posted all of those links it would take forever, but i am up to the challenge...hold on.

[Peace God]

Using Wikipedia as a resource, one that I can create an account and then go in a change any information I want
Y'know those little blue number thingys that are peppered throughout wikipedia pages? They're not there just to look pretty...

http://innolea.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wikipedia-references1.jpg

[Dimitri]

Y'know those little blue number thingys that are peppered throughout wikipedia pages? They're not there just to look pretty...

image (http://innolea.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wikipedia-references1.jpg)

I love how the newest one is from November 2010 and the oldest is from 1999, hello, it hadn't even happened yet....

[Peace God]

I love how the newest one is from November 2010 and the oldest is from 1999, hello, it hadn't even happened yet....
No no no. That pic has nothing to do with 9/11. :P It's completely random. I was just using it to show that every wikipedia page has plenty of sources throughout, so you cant just discredit wikipedia.

[Thunduhbuhlt]

http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html
http://www.textfiles.com/humor/thermite.ana
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/
http://www.wtc.com/about/
http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg
http://www.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=3756477
http://www.csgnetwork.com/jetfuel.html
that's enough for now...i'll add more as i remember them

[Dimitri]

No no no. That pic has nothing to do with 9/11. :P It's completely random. I was just using it to show that every wikipedia page has plenty of sources throughout, so you cant just discredit wikipedia.

Okay, coolbeans, I am just waiting for Aaron to get in here with all of the resources that he used to disprove me that we all just need to grow up and realize it could have been so many peoples influences that may have brought 9/11 upon us....

[Thunduhbuhlt]

And, there are 301 resources on that one site....

[Thunduhbuhlt]

Doesn't mean they are false either.

[Dimitri]

Doesn't mean they are false either.

So you mean to tell me that you took the time to look into every single one of them, made sure they are valid.

Then you are taking the risk, by not checking each one of them and validating them, then telling us that you support all of their opinions or whatever it is that they say....

Are you willing to say each and every one of them are sufficient and valid?

[Thunduhbuhlt]

http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html is most likely valid, it has nothing to do with 9/11 anyways, just basic info.
http://www.textfiles.com/humor/thermite.ana same as the first
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/ this is a company's website, so it is valid
http://www.wtc.com/about/ same as the one before this
http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg not sure about this one
http://www.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=3756477 scholastic is definitely valid
http://www.csgnetwork.com/jetfuel.html this one is the same as the first two

[Rage of the Menace]

Just a quick question.

How could a skyscraper made of stainless steel be crippled COMPLETELY when it hit near the top-mid section? If the crash was indeed the cause for the collapse, why was it that it didn't lean, it went straight down? This is simple physics here, and let me tell you something. It won't collapse completely, and if it hear the near top, it would have collapsed on an angle, but instead, straight down.

Just a theory i heard. Sounds convincing.

[KidImage]

Just a quick question.

How could a skyscraper made of stainless steel be crippled COMPLETELY when it hit near the top-mid section? If the crash was indeed the cause for the collapse, why was it that it didn't lean, it went straight down? This is simple physics here, and let me tell you something. It won't collapse completely, and if it hear the near top, it would have collapsed on an angle, but instead, straight down.

Just a theory i heard. Sounds convincing.

Yup I agree how could it? Makes one think...

[Professional Russian]

Just a quick question.

How could a skyscraper made of stainless steel be crippled COMPLETELY when it hit near the top-mid section? If the crash was indeed the cause for the collapse, why was it that it didn't lean, it went straight down? This is simple physics here, and let me tell you something. It won't collapse completely, and if it hear the near top, it would have collapsed on an angle, but instead, straight down.

Just a theory i heard. Sounds convincing.

1. It wasnt made of stainless steel
2.it was hit somewhere around the middle. When the plane hit the jet fuel started to burn. Jet fuel burns at a very high tempature. The tempature caused the steel to becom weakend to the point at which it couldnt handle the weight from the top section causeing it to fall. It fell straight down because it was basicly on a rail system with the steel beams going down the sides. Theres you awnser.

[Erasmus]

im not really sure if it was al quaeda or not, but if i had to choose, i would say that it wasn't an inside job.

[Rage of the Menace]

1. It wasnt made of stainless steel
2.it was hit somewhere around the middle. When the plane hit the jet fuel started to burn. Jet fuel burns at a very high tempature. The tempature caused the steel to becom weakend to the point at which it couldnt handle the weight from the top section causeing it to fall. It fell straight down because it was basicly on a rail system with the steel beams going down the sides. Theres you awnser.

So what you're saying is, that the lower levels of the building were heated to such a level that they failed FIRST? Oh really?

[Mortal Coil]

I have two things to say about 9/11 conspiracy theories:
1) I honestly don't think it was a government conspiracy.
2) It happened over a decade ago, so even if it was a conspiracy, the government has undergone a lot of changes since then and it is no longer truly relevant.

[Professional Russian]

So what you're saying is, that the lower levels of the building were heated to such a level that they failed FIRST? Oh really?

No no yout getting it wrong. Where the plane hit the levels it heated got to a tempature of which the steel could not support it self anymore. Then when the top of the building starts going down gravity is donna give momentum and it would crush the other levels.

[Rage of the Menace]

No no yout getting it wrong. Where the plane hit the levels it heated got to a tempature of which the steel could not support it self anymore. Then when the top of the building starts going down gravity is donna give momentum and it would crush the other levels.

So again, what you're saying is, the steel near the middle was so hot, from every side, that it all collapsed STRAIGHT DOWN, not leaning to the side it was impacted first?

Common sense. Saying that momentum caused the whole building to fall STRAIGHT DOWN is pretty stupid. Oh, what's that? Both towers fell the same way when impacted from different parts of the building and different sides?

Hmmm, seems like you got some explaining to do.

[Neptune]

Even if it was a inside job, it's already behind us. What can we actually do? I've never got why some people get so worked up over it, do you guys really assume that you can overthrow whoever planned it (if it was planned?) If someone planned it, their power is unlimited nowdays. If they were in it for the oil, they accomplished what they wanted.

If it was planned, does that mean that Osama Bin Laden wasn't actually against the United States? Does that mean a team of Navy Seals actually didn't kill him and they lied? Does that mean that the first person accounts of people of the operation are lying, too?

[Electra Heart]

The fuck?.. conspiracy?.. Y'know, this is what's gonna make Cthulhu come the fuck up here and kick y'all's ass.

[Evan-9]

Personally, they sicken me. Its entirely disrespectful and ignorant.

[kenoloor]

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/051311/electronic-illuminati.gif

[christianteen]

I'm absolutely sick of hearing this so lets get this over with...

It was nothing but a bunch of ass-hole terrorists who managed to hijack a plane and then flew them into a few buildings and killed thousands of people. Comprende?

[Sugaree]

I'm absolutely sick of hearing this so lets get this over with...

It was nothing but a bunch of ass-hole terrorists who managed to hijack a plane and then flew them into a few buildings and killed thousands of people. Comprende?

Except it was sort of more than that. It was a few hateful men who wanted to go out and kill. Didn't matter who they were working for or what their motives were, they just wanted to kill.

[khila]

Defiantly a inside job an air plane can not cripple a tower like this worst case scenerio is that the top would clapse however the entire tower would not fail. But the obvious question would be why and well as theres honestly no way to answer that question without getting every person from the white house and ATC who was in at that time we can only speculate.

[Fender]

It is absolutely horrible and petrifying that some people will even think, that our nation's leaders would be willing to terminate thousands of innocent people's lives!

[PerpetualImperfexion]

9/11 was an inside job... The steel literally melted. I don't remember the exact temperature needed to melt steal, all I know is that plane explosions don't create a high enough temperature to melt steel. I am not denying a gigantic fucking plain didn't crash into the building, I'm just saying that that's not the only thing that caused the explosion. Also it's just logical for someone to blow up a large building. The amount of insurance on a building of such porportions is easily worth convincing a couple retards to run planes into buildings and loading the top with some explosives. Yes 9/11 was tragic but someone was obviously smart enough to blow up the building from the inside.

[Electra Heart]

9/11 was an inside job... The steel literally melted. I don't remember the exact temperature needed to melt steal, all I know is that plane explosions don't create a high enough temperature to melt steel. I am not denying a gigantic fucking plain didn't crash into the building, I'm just saying that that's not the only thing that caused the explosion. Also it's just logical for someone to blow up a large building. The amount of insurance on a building of such porportions is easily worth convincing a couple retards to run planes into buildings and loading the top with some explosives. Yes 9/11 was tragic but someone was obviously smart enough to blow up the building from the inside.

Yes Derek from Indiana. Please, intrigue me with your bullshit theories. I don't exactly trust people, but that's a pretty large fucking accusation. Sorry, don't mean to be rude and offensive or anything. Other than that, it happened 11 years ago, we will never forget, but we can put to rest tons of asinine theories that stir up shit that isn't there.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

That's interesting I never looked at my theories as "intriguing". Nice to know I brightened your day with some entertainment. I apologize if you were offended by factual statement. I do agree that it really doesn't matter. The point of me saying what I said wasn't to "stir shit up", I was simply stating verifiable facts. I think we do agree on one thing though: however it happened, what ever caused the tower to fall, and whoever's fault it is thousands of people lost their lives. This is a horrible tragity and whether this was a government conspiracy or simply the result of a terrorist plot I hope we never forget all the people who lost their lives, especially the ones who were trying to save others.

[Professional Russian]

... Because driving 2 planes straight though a 100 story building wouldn't cause it to collapse.

I know im pulling this thread out of hell.

Get you facts right they drove two planes into the 2 towers. 1 in each. Jet fuel burns at 900 Degrees C 1652 Degrees F. Steel Melts Between 2500-2900 Degrees F. The heat produced by the burning jet fuel wouldnt have melted it but would have weakened it enough for it not to be able to take the weight of the above levels. They Fell Straight Down because if you look on the towers on each side there are beams of steel covering the corners. When the towers began to fall those acted as guide rods which guided down in a straight line. as for the so called "explosions" comeing from the below floors its just air and dust blowing out the windows.

[Professional Russian]

... and overall the planes crashing into the towers triggered all of those things, which is what I meant.

oh i thought you meant 2 planes crashed into one tower

[AbbaZabba]

No conspiracy, TERRORISM SUCKS !!!!!!!

[Silicate Wielder]

In order for a building to have been hit near the top with enough force to cause it to collapse and yet fall straight to the ground there has to have been an apposing force to keep it from crushing a big chunk of the area. even then it would have had to leaned over a little. I think it may be due to someone who rigged it. Probably by sabotaging the area where the building actually collapsed.

[jackson94]

Ignoring all the talk about planes not being able to knock down towers and such, because really, none of us know anything about any of that. A plane could probably knock down a tower just fine, none of us know. However, my...skepticism about what really happened just comes from the huge motives our government could have had, and the sketchy consequences surrounding the day.

1) The Pentagon was hit over an hour before the other two towers. Our military never reacted, despite an impressive acrobatic maneuver to crash a commercial jet, coincidentally, on the opposite side of the high-command in the pentagon.
2)The Executive chain of command (Bush, Rumsfeld, Myers, Winfield) all seemed to be MIA the day of the attack. Bush, fortunately, was doing possibly the most innocent thing a man could be doing during an attack, reading to children.
3) Bush senior was the director of the CIA, the Bush family had investments in oil (which skyrocketed after the subsequent unrest in the Middle East caused by wars which were falsely attributed to 9/11).
4) Bush senior was seen meeting with Bin Laden's brother the day of the attack, and the only plane to leave the United States the week following the attack was a plane mainly full of members of the Bin Laden family.
5) An Anthrax 'scare' was conveniantly produced halting all private 9/11 investigations. Anthrax that was later proven to have come from the United State's military stock.
6) The eagerness the Bush Administration had to blame this attack on Iraq, and go to war.

I'm not trying to prove anything here, just some points I found interesting. Oh, and sorry but this comment bothered me.

Okay, so there needs to be a Okay, time to put on our "Big Boy Pants" and get the fuck over it....

Using Wikipedia as a resource, one that I can create an account and then go in a change any information I want....use, this is a valid argument that you have supported through the use of Wikipedia....

Second, how do you know any of these videos are accurate?

Noting the first video having a reference to masonic involvement, dear fucking god, I am a mason myself, there is nothing there, I promise you.

When you have some legitimate evidentiary support you come and talk to me....

This is closest to the douchiest comment I have ever seen. The OP wasn't exactly 'proving' anything, just laying out some information floating around the web on the subject. And, Wikipedia can be a great source if for no other reason than the expansive list of resources supplied at the bottom of the page.

I highly doubt he wants to talk to you, you seem like a supreme dick.

[abdheuuuchjc]

Its weird the plane that hit the Pentagon left a hole resembling the front of a missle. And also the video for that is dated 9/12/01 not 9/11/01.

[plebble]

It was not a conspiracy, the Al Qaeda even admitted it was them you retards. They even planned a 9/11 #2 for 2011 - the ten year anniversary until the US government claimed they killed Bin Laden. -.-

[irishguy123]

I am nutral since I am not American but I honestly dont believe these conspiracy theories.

[kenoloor]

I am nutral since I am not American but I honestly dont believe these conspiracy theories.

So you're not neutral.

[Sudds3]

I personally do not believe that it is an inside job. The videos I have seen, and I have spent many hours watching them, are very very very very fake and it aggravates me when I see them because they are putting fallacies into people's minds and they will believe in them and then promote them like they are truths. Yet the theory of it being an inside job is a valid theory, very valid if I may add. There are a lot of unanswered questions, but that's life for you. You will not always get every answer....well you will never get ever answer....but I really hope it wasn't an inside job because I would at least hope that our government wouldn't think of 3000 innocent lives as expendable in order to do what, invade Iraq and Afghanistan? I would hope our government could at least save us that query.

[Sudds3]

In order for a building to have been hit near the top with enough force to cause it to collapse and yet fall straight to the ground there has to have been an apposing force to keep it from crushing a big chunk of the area. even then it would have had to leaned over a little. I think it may be due to someone who rigged it. Probably by sabotaging the area where the building actually collapsed.

It wouldn't have been rigged, the plane hit the upper area of the builing. Then the fire would have weakend that probably 100000 lbs of steel or so and that would have fallen and taken down the rest of the building which was already weakend by fire, that falling of rubble and fire would then produce the massive dust and ash cloud that would then proceed to cover all of the island. That is what I believe from the videos I have seen and the information I have been given, that theory is one that I have come up with on my own and under no external influence.

[jackson94]

It was not a conspiracy, the Al Qaeda even admitted it was them you retards. They even planned a 9/11 #2 for 2011 - the ten year anniversary until the US government claimed they killed Bin Laden. -.-

They didn't 'admit' it was them. They claimed bragging rights for their great victory.