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Gaybaby94
February 19th, 2012, 04:55 PM
This is just a summary in my own words. I will give the source when I can, although you can just get a source by lookin up her name.

Jessica Ahlquist has fought a long and hard legal battle over a prayer mural in her Rhode Island school. It began when the teen claimed that it was unconstitutional and demanded it be taken down. Despite drawing hate filled threats from believers, she also gained the support of non believers around the country as well as the ACLU and won a $41,000 for her cause. She finally won and the mural was taken down. She is now helping atheists fight their causes as well. From True_Liberal

A true hero for the atheist community and a great role model.

Genghis Khan
February 19th, 2012, 05:15 PM
oh wow she had to pray big fucking deal look at me i have to suffer from sprouting words out of a ridiculous book woe is me

Genghis Khan
February 19th, 2012, 05:21 PM
A true hero of an atheist community is the kind that would stop making a big fucking deal about not believing in God and having to recite prayers in predominantly Christian country. Really, the real battle is to just break the stereotype of atheists being evil satan-worshipping sons of bitches, and the way to do that is to just be a tolerant human being and not let what stupid motherfuckers say get to you. What this girl is doing is really just being a pushy cunt.

embers
February 19th, 2012, 05:48 PM
A true hero of an atheist community is the kind that would stop making a big fucking deal about not believing in God and having to recite prayers in predominantly Christian country. Really, the real battle is to just break the stereotype of atheists being evil satan-worshipping sons of bitches, and the way to do that is to just be a tolerant human being and not let what stupid motherfuckers say get to you. What this girl is doing is really just being a pushy cunt.

Exactly this. "True hero" my tiny frozen balls man this girl is just being a moron. It's not a victory for anything except stereotypes and shit-stirring between the atheist and religious communities.

Sugaree
February 19th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Wow, she got a banner taken down. Yes, the banner DID impede the law on religious grounds, but now she's just living up to the stereotype that atheists are just looking for an excuse to bitch. She's no hero, nor role model.

Mtc 10
February 19th, 2012, 10:54 PM
Hero.. Avg atheist.. Complain over every little thing.. If it bothered her so much why not just pay for school?

Amnesiac
February 20th, 2012, 12:01 AM
I heard about this story a few weeks ago, and yeah, this is pretty stupid. It's more attention-whoring than achieving anything – there are way bigger church-state issues to address than this.

Avg atheist.. Complain over every little thing..

Don't stereotype like that.

Sugaree
February 20th, 2012, 12:08 AM
Hero.. Avg atheist.. Complain over every little thing.. If it bothered her so much why not just pay for school?

Stereotyping I see. It's like me saying you're an average black person who enjoys large slices of watermelon and fried chicken. Average, right?

kenoloor
February 20th, 2012, 10:43 AM
> looks at thread title
> looks at last line of OP
> looks at username of OP
> shocked

Gaybaby94
February 20th, 2012, 10:53 AM
> looks at thread title
> looks at last line of OP
> looks at username of OP
> shocked

Not all liberals are atheists. But most atheists mainly vote liberal. It's just common sense.

Sugaree
February 20th, 2012, 01:31 PM
Not all liberals are atheists. But most atheists mainly vote liberal. It's just common sense.

No it's not. Common sense has nothing to do with how you vote or your political affiliation. Common sense is shutting the water off if your toilet is running or closing windows during a thunderstorm.

Efflorescence
February 20th, 2012, 02:39 PM
A true hero for the atheist community and a great role model.

She's touchy lol.

Jess
February 20th, 2012, 03:15 PM
I heard about this story a few weeks ago, and yeah, this is pretty stupid. It's more attention-whoring than achieving anything – there are way bigger church-state issues to address than this.

this

I fail to see how a prayer mural would affect an atheist's life at school...if there was one at my school, I would be annoyed, but I would just ignore it.

Hero.. Avg atheist.. Complain over every little thing.. If it bothered her so much why not just pay for school?

stop stereotyping.

Mtc 10
February 20th, 2012, 05:00 PM
Stereotyping I see. It's like me saying you're an average black person who enjoys large slices of watermelon and fried chicken. Average, right?

Actually your right. Most blacks love watermelon and fried chicken. But for me. no. Im vegetarian.

Sugaree
February 20th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Actually your right. Most blacks love watermelon and fried chicken. But for me. no. Im vegetarian.

So you've proven that not ALL blacks eat that. But if someone automatically assumed that you did, you wouldn't like it, would you? So stereotyping isn't good for any group. Calling this girl the "average" atheist is way out of hand here.

DarkHorses
February 20th, 2012, 05:12 PM
I find that rather ridiculous, though my opinion is probably biased because I'm a Christian. Why do religious people and atheists always have to be at war with each other? People should be able to express their beliefs, as long as they are doing so with good intentions. This includes atheists as well. In my opinion the fact that we are not allowed to have religious affiliations in school is a violation of the first amendment. People get offended way too easily, and I'm tired of America saying "Oh, this might hurt someone's feelings, better get rid of it." Why can't we just agree to disagree, and accept that there are people out there who believe differently?

kenoloor
February 20th, 2012, 05:30 PM
In my opinion the fact that we are not allowed to have religious affiliations in school is a violation of the first amendment.

No it's not. That is the first amendment. The government is not supposed to favor (affiliate with) any particular religion. Hence why prayer isn't allowed to be organized by the school, etc. If the government were to favor one religion's ideals, that would be a violation of the first amendment.

DarkHorses
February 20th, 2012, 05:52 PM
No it's not. That is the first amendment. The government is not supposed to favor (affiliate with) any particular religion. Hence why prayer isn't allowed to be organized by the school, etc. If the government were to favor one religion's ideals, that would be a violation of the first amendment.

Just because religion is recognized in schools doesn't mean that the government is favoring one religion over another. When it comes to situations such as forcing kids to recite the pledge of allegiance despite the fact that it has the word God in it, I totally agree with you. But if a student came to the principal and asked to put up a Christian shrine to honor the death of a classmate or loved one or for whatever reason, they should be fully allowed to without people becoming offended and accusing the government of favoring Christianity. It would have nothing to do with the government, or the school, but with the personal beliefs of that particular student.

Mtc 10
February 20th, 2012, 06:21 PM
So you've proven that not ALL blacks eat that. But if someone automatically assumed that you did, you wouldn't like it, would you? So stereotyping isn't good for any group. Calling this girl the "average" atheist is way out of hand here.

She is the average atheist. Just like the average black loves watermelon and fried chicken... Such as the avg white person doesnt wash their hands after they pee

Sugaree
February 20th, 2012, 06:28 PM
She is the average atheist. Just like the average black loves watermelon and fried chicken... Such as the avg white person doesnt wash their hands after they pee

Except that's not the "average" atheist at all. I know five atheists who I'm good friends with, and they don't go around looking for shit to complain about. They go about their day like any other person.

Also, good job stereotyping your own race. I suppose that would also make you wellfare dependent citizen who wants the government to clean his messes up. That's obviously the average black person, right? Does nothing but lay around all day eating fried chicken and sucking off the government tit.

Angel Androgynous
February 20th, 2012, 06:36 PM
She is the average atheist. Just like the average black loves watermelon and fried chicken... Such as the avg white person doesnt wash their hands after they pee

And I, obviously caused 911, and am one of the many wives of Osama Bin laden. Uh huh.



That girl was being harassed a lot after she won that case... I don't think she actually deserves all of that harassment.

Mtc 10
February 20th, 2012, 06:37 PM
Except that's not the "average" atheist at all. I know five atheists who I'm good friends with, and they don't go around looking for shit to complain about. They go about their day like any other person.

Also, good job stereotyping your own race. I suppose that would also make you wellfare dependent citizen who wants the government to clean his messes up. That's obviously the average black person, right? Does nothing but lay around all day eating fried chicken and sucking off the government tit.

The government made us like tht and again not me. Im very well off. almost like a mitt romney well off. ha not tht well off but VERY well off. it comes from post slave time era. And how are you gonna say that wen whites on welfare is at basically an all time high. And what do you mean just us wanting the giv to fix all our porblems. All these idiot repubs scream is the government helping them.. and blaming our prez.. And yes again like i said. The Average Atheist is someone who goes around looking for something to complain about the christain faith.! and just ANYTHING in general.. Teh need to man up some and stop whining. (No offense to any atheists out there)

Mtc 10
February 20th, 2012, 07:03 PM
^ And the average black person is poor, so you're obviously lying.

Now that I HIGHLY disagree with!! where is that fact. the avg black person lives poor because they care less (meaning home wise).. But in wealth they are far from poor.. And yup im lying cuz u just know me too well. Hha whata joke.... WHatever you all say.. I think atheist are pretty much just compulsive complainers who act like whining babies about EVERYTHING! they need to be quiet and live life. It is too short to let things so simple such as the young lady in the article get to her.

Sugaree
February 20th, 2012, 07:09 PM
Now that I HIGHLY disagree with!! where is that fact. the avg black person lives poor because they care less (meaning home wise).. But in wealth they are far from poor.. And yup im lying cuz u just know me too well. Hha whata joke.... WHatever you all say.. I think atheist are pretty much just compulsive complainers who act like whining babies about EVERYTHING! they need to be quiet and live life. It is too short to let things so simple such as the young lady in the article get to her.

When you're the only atheist in a Christian school, how would you feel anyway? It's more than just "shut up and move on", people need to feel comfortable in their surrounds, be it at school, the work place, where ever. She felt alienated and did the right thing in addressing the problem, which was totally against ethical code that any government organization (meaning this school) is not to side with any ONE religion. What part of that don't you get? And if you're going to joke around again, I'll say what I said to you a few weeks ago, don't bother posting if you're not going to be a serious debater.

Mtc 10
February 20th, 2012, 07:15 PM
When you're the only atheist in a Christian school, how would you feel anyway? It's more than just "shut up and move on", people need to feel comfortable in their surrounds, be it at school, the work place, where ever. She felt alienated and did the right thing in addressing the problem, which was totally against ethical code that any government organization (meaning this school) is not to side with any ONE religion. What part of that don't you get? And if you're going to joke around again, I'll say what I said to you a few weeks ago, don't bother posting if you're not going to be a serious debater.

There no point of being a serious debater on hear... I do enough debate. In fact we had our debate district finals this weekend at school.. Yes, im on the debate team. And like i said she needs to pay for school if she feels uncomforatable. or go to boarding school. Or homeschool.. iTs her own fought she feels uncomforatable. The world is what you make of it

Mtc 10
February 20th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Mhm, typical black person... a compulsive liar who lies about everything. Tell the truth and live life.

Yup :) Im a big fat liar.. Whites lie wayy faster than blacks. and are wayy more heartless.. snakes basically

Sugaree
February 20th, 2012, 07:59 PM
Yup :) Im a big fat liar.. Whites lie wayy faster than blacks. and are wayy more heartless.. snakes basically

Yep, because we enslaved one of your ancestors over 200 years ago and didn't really give a fuck until the mid 20th century.

Peace God
February 20th, 2012, 09:34 PM
Slavery, segregation and subjugation still exists. :afro:

Gaybaby94
February 20th, 2012, 09:59 PM
If you guys want stereotypes just look at me.
Anyway, let's stay on topic.

embers
February 21st, 2012, 02:06 PM
If you guys want stereotypes just look at me.
Anyway, let's stay on topic.

He's right (in both ways). Stop running around in circles spitting crap stereotypes and get back on topic.

justlonelyhearts
February 21st, 2012, 02:17 PM
I wash my hands after I pee :3