Hitler

[Princess Ariel]

For history, I have to write an essay stating if it was the man, or the times. That caused Hitlers rampage. I've started to read his book (Mein Kampf) and I have my textbook, plus another book my teacher gave us. But just out of curiosity.
What are your opinions on him? So I can get some ideas of to include in my essay.
I'm not sure what my thesis is going to be, but with your help, I might be able to make up my mind..
When I'm done, I'll also post on here, just for the heck of it :D

[kenoloor]

Dude. (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=129111)

[Princess Ariel]

Dude. (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=129111)

I went through it.. I'm interested in DIFFERENT opinions.. It was also very hard to follow for me..

[Bubbawhack]

Dude. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler)

[Princess Ariel]

Dude. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler)

People can edit Wikipedia..

[kenoloor]

People can edit Wikipedia..

Well there're your different opinions. You're going to get the same opinions in this thread than in the previous one. Same people visit this board.

[Princess Ariel]

and that it your opinion.
You also don't have to be so rude about it.

[KidImage]

I honesty think it was the man because he is responsible for the actions he took.

[KidImage]

and that it your opinion.
You also don't have to be so rude about it.

Yeah how he said it was kinda harsh.

[AppealToReason]

People can edit Wikipedia..

You're welcome to look at the articles references.
While it is true that Wikipedia may not always be completely reliable, they do offer references, so you shouldn't be so quick to ignore them.

[Rage of the Menace]

I love these, well ok. Let's begin with his Biography, Mein Kampf.

Badly written, horrible grammar, unbelievably boring but guess what? He made a system that could efficiently run the world.

By indoctrinating the populace, he creates a race of people with power, and power in the hands of people gives them the urge and the ability to do things they could never and would have never done. By wiping out most of the worlds population, he would have created a pure race, hence, no room for imposters. When these people are bieng led by one leader, there is no turning back.

Fascism is brutally efficient, and i dare say, more efficient than our so called 'democracy' we have running. It allows for the people to be indoctrinated and make dissent extremely minimal, and when it is stirred, the people, the majority will force them to repent because of the minds of these people who are now, not men, but zombies. Metaphorically speaking.

If you want to rule the world? You do it the way Hitler did. I respect him as a person and as a leader, and i think Germany is denying him his right as one of the greatest political personalities not of the 20th century, but in history.

I have read the Mein Kampf, and let me tell you. This mans view of propaganda is Genius in its own right.

Don't mistake me for a Nazi. I do not like Hitler, i just respect him, and you need to acknowledge his achievements. (taking Germany out of the great depression in one year, took over 10 in america.)

Paranoid, Power-Hungry, Narcissist, Genius. <----- my previous reply.

I would also like to add on, that just because he killed many people does not phase his achievements as a leader.

[Azunite]

Hitler was a mastermind, true.

Hitler restored a fallen country from it's ashes and turned it into a superpower, true.

Hitler used brand new types of warfares and politics to conquer the world, true.

Hitler's Germany is the father of today's technology, true.

Everyone writes about bad sides of Hiter. If you want a good grade and if you want your teacher to think well about you, you may want to concentrate on Hitler's achievements. Let people see Hitler as a "Father who became a maniac because of power" rather than a "scourge". We actually owe a lot to him.

Hell if he didn't slaughter Jews we'd be talking about him as a mastermind.

[kenoloor]

Also, without Hitler, the idea that everyone should own a car would not exist. The Volkswagen (volk = people/culture, wagen = transportation). It was Hitler's idea that automobiles should be affordable enough that average people should be able to own one, not just the wealthy. “Over the past four years, and with continual improvements, we have developed the Volkswagen, which we are convinced not only can be sold at the price we want, but also can be manufactured in ways that use a minimum of workers to produce the maximum amount. The model that has resulted from years of work by Dr. Porsche will undergo testing this year. It will enable millions of new customers with limited incomes to afford a car. We owe the best cars in the world to our directors, engineers, craftsmen, workers, and salesmen. Today, I am convinced that in a short time we will also build the least expensive cars.” Source (http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/vw.htm)

Alongside that, the Autobahn was Hitler's creation as well, which was also a concept that changed transportation worldwide.

[Can'tHelpIt]

How about this.

He had good sides as everyone is pointing out. And he had his bad sides like killing a lot of people.

I wouldn't want for this to never happen because it would alter the world terribly.

[slappy]

Hitler was an evil genius. He fixed Germany after their depression but he did it on the backs of the Jews. 30% of Germany's money came from the the robbery and dehumanising of the Jewish people in so called "aryan" nations.

[IAMWILL]

If you take away the part about him ordering the murder of 12million as well as trying to conquer the world, he was really an incredible guy.

As others have stated above he pretty much initiated new forms of transportation and made the automobile even easier to afford than Ford did with the Model T. He also took a country that had a 40% unemployment rate and hatred from across the world with multi billion dollar sanctions and turned it into a global superpower with a thriving economy (it should be noted that during the Great Depression more Americans left the country than came in, and many of them went to Germany and Russia because if you wanted a job and a place to live with food on the table there was one waiting for you as soon as your crossed the border). He was an extremely charismatic speaker and won over many Germans with his promises of "returning the Fatherland to glory", and honestly he pretty much did what he promised. Just kinda went too far with it.

I dont think he will ever be remembered positively and will probably remain an international symbol of evil (as the Swastika is now, even though it was a Hindu and Native American symbol often associated with happiness and prosperity and is portrayed in many paintings and sculpture of their gods). As a motivator and worker, as well as economic mastermind however, it can be argued that he was the second greatest of the last century, behind FDR.

Just my 2cents.

[Mortal Coil]

The times were horrible, there's no denying that, but if you're saying that the times were responsible for Hitler's actions instead of the man, then practically anyone could have done the same thing. Hitler just happened to be gifted and abominable, which is a very dangerous combination.

[Rage of the Menace]

Quite basically, he revolutionised errythang in germany.

[Rage of the Menace]

If you take away the part about him ordering the murder of 12million as well as trying to conquer the world, he was really an incredible guy.

As others have stated above he pretty much initiated new forms of transportation and made the automobile even easier to afford than Ford did with the Model T. He also took a country that had a 40% unemployment rate and hatred from across the world with multi billion dollar sanctions and turned it into a global superpower with a thriving economy (it should be noted that during the Great Depression more Americans left the country than came in, and many of them went to Germany and Russia because if you wanted a job and a place to live with food on the table there was one waiting for you as soon as your crossed the border). He was an extremely charismatic speaker and won over many Germans with his promises of "returning the Fatherland to glory", and honestly he pretty much did what he promised. Just kinda went too far with it.

I dont think he will ever be remembered positively and will probably remain an international symbol of evil (as the Swastika is now, even though it was a Hindu and Native American symbol often associated with happiness and prosperity and is portrayed in many paintings and sculpture of their gods). As a motivator and worker, as well as economic mastermind however, it can be argued that he was the second greatest of the last century, behind FDR.

Just my 2cents.

I agree, but FDR is a shrimp compared to Hitler.

Hitlers political genius is unbelievable. This guy was a real genius, from a low-middle class family to a labour worker, to a WW1 soldier to a leader of a group composed of several people, to leader of the creator of a nation that destroyed 1 superpower and put 2 on their knees.

This man really took the saying "anything's possible" to new heights.

[Erasmus]

Definitively the man. Nothing can justify killing 6,000,000 innocent Jews.