Salvia

[Aubree]

Has anyone tried it? What was it like?

[mase]

Was about to post the samething, anyone know if its legal in the uk?

[Aubree]

Just checked- it's legal in the UK.

[mase]

Just checked- it's legal in the UK.

Cheers :D

[Bubbawhack]

It feels like you have to be conciseness about breathing in, I have had one experience where it was absolutely terrifying. have never done it since.

[Aubree]

That sounds kinda scary.. I was thinking about using it to help recover memories because I've heard it can take you back to visions of past events and they're super vivid. Did that ever happen to you?

[aperson444]

I'm a bit tired right now. I have not tried Salvia but I know people who have. My experience is limited to classic psychedelics (LSD). Salvia has a strange pharmacological profile relative to to other psychedelics. It's a kappa-opioid receptor agonist which elicits dissociative effects. This is distinct from classical dissociatives (PCP, Ketamine, DXM) in a way (binding to the KOR), but it it could cause vivid-dreamlike visuals and closed-eye visuals. These "dream-like" states are the most common. Like ibogaine, salvia is not a real "recreational" drug in many ways. It can be quite unpleasant and is used to treat drug addiction for this reason. Unlike more recreational dissociatives, it does not just remove you from reality. Reality is completely dissolved away in a a sense. There is some beautiful art created under the influence of Salvia and the trance-like state may be why native Mexicans used it for ritual practices many years ago. Let me emphasize how strong the trance is. The moment you inhale the smoke, expect to be out very soon. It will remove you from the real world if you smoke enough.

Back to pharmacology; The K-opioid receptor is still poorly understood. It seems to elicit effects opposite to the mu-opioid receptor (responsible for the pleasurable effects of opiates). A protein binding profile found that Salvinorin A had pretty much sole affinity for the Kappa opioid receptor, although I'm sure the KOR could have other effects on other receptor systems.

[Sordid Saint]

The post above me is what you are looking for basically, besides the actual experience of it. I have done Salvia a number of times and it never brought back memories of what has happened before, but it DOES get very vivid, whatever your trip may be. At a low dose, for me at least, you go into this kind of "sleep mode" where you're aware of your surroundings, and you get this indescribable feeling kind of like being very heavy on your legs but being very light from your hips up. Also you're too much in awe to even react to what's going on around you. Basically what I'm saying is it feels like a dream at low doses, and it's kind of hard to remember especially at low doses but I can remember my trips from high doses which is kind of weird. At high doses (namely a giant rip of 80x), I was having open eyed visuals and closed eyed visuals which was completely alien to the low dose. I felt as if my body was being folded open, layer by layer like a book. It didn't hurt, it just felt like my body was made of pages. Everything had a strange dimness to it, the opposite of what LSD and Ecstasy do to you if you've ever had experience with those. Also I could see grass growing and shrinking out of the ground like they were poking up then going back down.

I wouldn't recommend using salvia as your first hallucinogen, specifically because of how intense the trip is, even though it lasts only a few minutes.

Aperson, you might like this comparison that I made up. A Salvia trip is to a Mushroom trip, as a DMT trip is to an LSD trip. This means that a Salvia trip (once again in my experiences) is a short but INTENSE mushroom trip. It feels very earthy and the visuals are pretty earthy too. A DMT trip in my experience, is like a short and intense LSD trip. Where the visuals seem to be very spiritual and anti-ego trips.

[Aubree]

Thanks for the advice! Sounds amazing but terrifying at the same time.

[Fiction]

I can't speak from first hand experience.

When I watched my friend smoke it though she went extremely giggley and just sat there laughing. She then started talking about how pretty the trees where and how pretty everything was. Then her trip turned bad and she told me that we'd all ruined the pretty picture...

I've heard of much worse trips than that though. One of my friends saw dead people and so on.