Sports Forum!

[DestroyTheFuture]

jesus christ everyone, please.


that forum would fucking rule and so many people here are involved in sports.

it would be as helpful and interesting as the depression and eating disorder forums.

the sports forum would go under General Discussions

there would be polls, athletic training questions, favorite team debates...
EVERYTHING UNDER THE EYE OF ATHLETICS!

i'm serious though, every day that i come here, i wish that we had a sports forum. so many teens are active in sports and it could help them out a lot.

seriously, the Senior Staff should highly consider creating this within the next week.

[Bobby]

I"m a sports addict and I would use it, but I don't think it would get enough traffic.

[Aηdy]

This has been suggested many times, there was a sports diary but I don't think it exsists any more.

In other words, no, use TWPR or create a diary.

[Bankai15]

jesus christ everyone, please.


that forum would fucking rule and so many people here are involved in sports.

it would be as helpful and interesting as the depression and eating disorder forums.

the sports forum would go under General Discussions

there would be polls, athletic training questions, favorite team debates...
EVERYTHING UNDER THE EYE OF ATHLETICS!

i'm serious though, every day that i come here, i wish that we had a sports forum. so many teens are active in sports and it could help them out a lot.

seriously, the Senior Staff should highly consider creating this within the next week.

You can use my forum Sports Center, it is about sports, you can put whatever kind of sport on there I dont mind at all. :)

[redcar]

jesus christ everyone, please.

Calm yourself!:P

Right this has been brought up a lot. I am going to put a Poll on this, then we can see what the consensus is about a Sports Forum.

[DouggyO.o]

we have gone through this many times, its been voted against it at least 4 times. a diary is fine. we really dont need any more forums under general discussion. the white padded room should do fine.

[MoveAlong]

we have gone through this many times, its been voted against it at least 4 times. a diary is fine. we really dont need any more forums under general discussion. the white padded room should do fine.

Agreed. If it was really needed (like the VT Chronicle) we'd see a whole bunch more posts about the topic or relating to the forum needed (just like what happened with the Chronicle).
Sorry guys, I have to go against it :)

[DouggyO.o]

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=111
( the diary )

[Maverick]

Diaries really don't get much attention as general forums do.

[Antares]

i said no becuase there is already a diary and i think that govgaming would be a good site for this. but i would not mind if it was a forum in gd

[MoveAlong]

...i think that govgaming would be a good site for this.

I don't think so, GovGaming is more of a forum for arcade and computer games, not phsyical sports.
+They don't have a forum for sports anyways

[Maverick]

GovGaming isn't for sports and either way, what is done over there shouldn't have any affect over here.

[-Silence]

I say no.

I think you guys are trying to branch waaaay far out, this place is called The Psychiatric Ward. I also think that many people are forgetting that, condensing the actual illness forums and adding new General Discussion forums, soon there isn't going to be anything that has to do with mental illnesses anymore.

Also, how much traffic could a Sports Forum possibly get?

[MoveAlong]

I agree Heather, we should still pay attention to the Psych Ward =]

[Maverick]

Majority of our members now don't have mental illnesses so that's why the majority of our members aren't concerned in those parts of the site, rather than puberty or any of the gen. discussions. If we focused on the psyc ward alone this site would be dead.

[MoveAlong]

Of course, but if we have a sports forum, what stops us from having lawn & gardening forum, or a automotives forum?

The idea has come up a lot, but I think both the VT Chronicle and the diary Sports Center should be used for sports announcements and sports discussion rather than a forum dedicated to it.

The Chronicle is already used for sports news and people do talk about it there. That's actually becoming more popular! =]

[Maverick]

Of course, but if we have a sports forum, what stops us from having lawn & gardening forum, or a automotives forum?
What stops us is the lack of interest in those subjects to create a forum. If the sports forum doesn't have a lot of interest then it shouldn't be created but if there is, then it should at least be given a chance to try out.

[MoveAlong]

Why should we create another major forum for a topic when the threads and discussions aren't even posted in regularly in the diary for that topic?

[Maverick]

I just don't think we should compare a diary to a general forum. A diary is lost in between the index and isn't noticeable. A lot of people ignore the diary section.

[MoveAlong]

I just think the topic would be brought up more in threads rather than suggestions.

The idea of a 'sports' forum sounds crusty.

If in fact a sports forum gets made and gets enough traffic (more than the Art Room), I think it should be somewhat like GovTeen - Sports and Fitness. That way, when the sports seasons take their breaks, we can still offer a support system. We could talk about weight training or dieting.

But then again, isn't that what we tried to do for the Eating Disorders forum? Well, I guess the bottom of that idea fell out too.

[Maverick]

Getting in shape/building muscle isn't an eating disorder. It very well should include fitness if created. Sports/athletics/fitness are all along the same idea.

DTF did mention this when he said:
athletic training questions

[MoveAlong]

I never said building muscle was an eating disorder. Close to when I left the site, 6 months ago, it was named something like Eating Disorders and Weight Problems. That's what I meant.

What would be even better than a sports forum is a hobbies forum. It could be anything of interest...ballet, music, sports, weight training etc. Tho we'd have to make it very clear in a sticky that it's a sports/hobbies, but that could be made if and when the forum is created.

But it still bothers me that there would be something so masculine as 'Sports'
No sexism but it the idea turns me off as well as I don't think it would fly.

[Hyper]

I don't think it's a bad idea, though diaries already exist and have existed for that kinda stuff.. Diaries also exist for other kind of stuff that we have forums for..

So I say we should give it a chance

[Aηdy]

I say no, there is already a diary for it.

[-Silence]

I just don't think we should compare a diary to a general forum. A diary is lost in between the index and isn't noticeable. A lot of people ignore the diary section.

Then 'advertise' it more. I'm sorry but if someone has a signiture that advertises their diary, and it catches my eye I'm gonna go check it out. And hell, if the diary interests me, I'm gonna come back. If it's a good diary people will take the time to scroll down to see it.

[MoveAlong]

I didn't say that and I wished I would've, but I agree with Heather 100%

[Aηdy]

Then 'advertise' it more. I'm sorry but if someone has a signiture that advertises their diary, and it catches my eye I'm gonna go check it out. And hell, if the diary interests me, I'm gonna come back. If it's a good diary people will take the time to scroll down to see it.

rok.my.sox agrees.

[Maverick]

Then 'advertise' it more. I'm sorry but if someone has a signiture that advertises their diary, and it catches my eye I'm gonna go check it out. And hell, if the diary interests me, I'm gonna come back. If it's a good diary people will take the time to scroll down to see it.
You do have a point but VT has grown enough to where we should expand into other subjects. I don't think the site should be kept so limited. This site can be so much more and by rejecting new ideas it doesn't allow the forum to get new subjects talked about.

[-Silence]

And why can't they be talked about in the White Padded Room, or the VT Chronicle (for the sport news)?

Edit: I checked out the Sport Diary and I noticed that the mod of it seems to be the only one to start topics. Maybe if other people started some topics instead of having the mod do it, it might get a bit busier. Just a suggestion.

[Aηdy]

And why can't they be talked about in the White Padded Room, or the VT Chronicle (for the sport news)?

I certainly have no objection to it!

Whats the point in making a new forum that is already covered by 3 others?!

[Maverick]

And why can't they be talked about in the White Padded Room, or the VT Chronicle (for the sport news)?
The same way computers, artwork, creative writing, music, etc aren't discussed in there. People are less likely to discuss those kinds of things if there isn't a place for them. Seeing a place for sports can spark interest.

Edit: Photography and artwork didn't appear much until the art room was created. While the forum won't be really active at first, it will have to start somewhere and it can grow. If you don't give it a chance, then you never know if it will work or not.

[DestroyTheFuture]

The same way computers, artwork, creative writing, music, etc aren't discussed in there. People are less likely to discuss those kinds of things if there isn't a place for them. Seeing a place for sports can spark interest.

Edit: Photography and artwork didn't appear much until the art room was created. While the forum won't be really active at first, it will have to start somewhere and it can grow. If you don't give it a chance, then you never know if it will work or not.


Exactly. Also, a sports diary isnt advertised enough, and it doesnt need to be. to plain out put it, diary's arent as popular as actual main forums.

an actual Sports forum is the best decision to take here

Anthony is completely right as well, seeing a Sports forum will spark interest.

[Dante]

I don't think we would have enough traffic for a sports forum and if we can talk about it in a diary, the WPR, and the Chronicle. Why would we need to add more?

[Underage_Thinker]

personally i agree, i don't think it will get enough traffic. But just so we don't have anybody get their panties in a bunch why don't you just make a sports forum on a temporary bases, something like 1-2 months and at the end of that time if there is enough traffic to justify the space then keep it. That way nobody can say you didn't give it a chance.

[Gumleaf]

i'm a sports nut. i love sport everything from v8 supercars to rugby league to cricket. so i'm all for it!

[Hyper]

Ok, the Abuse forum doesn't get enough traffic but it's still there..

I know we can't compare a Sports forum to an Abuse forum.. But who cares, atleast give it a shot..

And I said it before, we have diaries for almost every forum we have right now, so why are the forums there or the diaries..

In overall I repeat myself just give it a shot!

[MoveAlong]

Ok, the Abuse forum doesn't get enough traffic but it's still there..
ok well this isn't gonna turn into an argument about the Abuse forum, but as VirtualTeen's originally mission (blah blah) we help people that have gone through things that are hard for them (read the front page) (Mental Illnesses and some (currently rising) problems with teen self-harm) Abuse is something that teens can go through (and when they were younger)
I think I remember reading that we wouldn't have Kiros if we didn't have the Psych Ward, that's what he joined for (I think he once said)

You know what, the Psych Ward isn't used that much. But it was what the site was about before, and it actually has helped some people. Why let that go to waste? (rhetorical question, enough about that)


Now we're just focusing on our community, and find things to talk about and have fun with. :D

[Maverick]

I don't think we would have enough traffic for a sports forum and if we can talk about it in a diary, the WPR, and the Chronicle. Why would we need to add more?
Diaries don't get a lot of attention. The WPR's description of "This is the place to let off some steam and escape from that world you need to get away from" really doesn't scream sports to new members, and the Chronicle is mainly for news articles which really don't get a lot of response to begin with.

[Hyper]

ok well this isn't gonna turn into an argument about the Abuse forum, but as VirtualTeen's originally mission (blah blah) we help people that have gone through things that are hard for them (read the front page) (Mental Illnesses and some (currently rising) problems with teen self-harm) Abuse is something that teens can go through (and when they were younger)
I think I remember reading that we wouldn't have Kiros if we didn't have the Psych Ward, that's what he joined for (I think he once said)

You know what, the Psych Ward isn't used that much. But it was what the site was about before, and it actually has helped some people. Why let that go to waste? (rhetorical question, enough about that)


Now we're just focusing on our community, and find things to talk about and have fun with. :D


I did say, it wasn't a accurate comprasion but still

I mean it wont hurt us if we atleast try it out, I know I would read a new forum and post in it from time to time or frequently..

[MoveAlong]

Oh yeah, I have no problem w/ that comparison, I think you're actually right. I just think something good had to be said about the Psych Ward and the Abuse forum.

I'm still on the side of not wanting it, altho I do agree that it wouldn't hurt to try it out. However, if it's completely dead even during some sports seasons, some thought should be put in...

[-Silence]

I still don't like the idea.

I just think we are here to help people, not entertain them. Right now we have 8 psychiatric forums and 7 general forums, I just think that we should not outdo the number of psychiatric forums with general ones because mental illness is supposed to be what we specialize in. It should be our main goal. But somehow we recieved more members without mental illness then those that do.

I don't understand why it can't be posted in the sports diary. If people would post there then the diary would get attention.

Posted By Anthony: The WPR's description of "This is the place to let off some steam and escape from that world you need to get away from" really doesn't scream sports to new members, and the Chronicle is mainly for news articles which really don't get a lot of response to begin with.

Then maybe something that could help is a description change for the WPR, something to let people know, hey this is a place to hang out, not just vent, even though most members realize that, but it might help new members.

And MoveAlong, sorry I get lost on names. About Kiros, alot of our old members are like that. I'm the same way, I joined this site a couple weeks after it was made, before the puberty forum, before alot of these things were here, and our members were here because they needed support and that's what they got.

But sorry guys, I don't mean to sound mean or anything, just my opinion.

[MoveAlong]

Don't worry Heather, that wasn't mean at all! :D
And MoveAlong, sorry I get lost on names.

Yes? Don't worry, I changed my username and left the site for 3 months, so I wouldn't expect you to remember ;-)

[redcar]

Well its looking like there is more in favour of a Sports forum, although I would like to see a more clearer victory as it were for either side before a final decision is made. So keep it open for a few more days.

I see what you are saying Heather about the Ward being our main goal and I defo think it should always remain at the heart of VT and be our main priority. Although more and more people are joining who dont have use of it and I think as we get bigger we need to diversify and expand on General Discusions.

[DouggyO.o]

personnely i dont think we need anymore general discussion category's.

[Aηdy]

Heather I totally agree with you, there is a sports diary and there is no need for a dedicated forum. I'm 100% against this and I wouldn't be very impressed if it was made.

[DouggyO.o]

Heather I totally agree with you, there is a sports diary and there is no need for a dedicated forum. I'm 100% against this and I wouldn't be very impressed if it was made.

same here

the 4th wall could also be used for sports; seeign how it is about popular things like music and tv
(sports is also on tv)

[Hyper]

How about we just kill off any diary that somehow has anything related to a forum?... Then we would only have SPAM forums left.

We could always make the sports forum a subforum into the 4th wall including with other things that belong there

[Maverick]

We could always make the sports forum a subforum into the 4th wall including with other things that belong there
You mean kinda like how the art room is set up?

[-Silence]

You mean kinda like how the art room is set up?

I think that could be cool, but I also think the chronicle should be a sub forum in there too.

Have something set up to where it was like:

The 4th Wall
Music, Television, Sports, News.
(And maybe add books, but I'm not sure how active that'd be.)


But I like that idea way better than a whole big forum dedicated to sports.

[Hyper]

You mean kinda like how the art room is set up?

Yes, and yes to Heather exactly my thoughts

[DouggyO.o]

ah yes! thats a wonderful idea!

[Maverick]

I think that could be cool, but I also think the chronicle should be a sub forum in there too.

Have something set up to where it was like:

The 4th Wall
Music, Television, Sports, News.
(And maybe add books, but I'm not sure how active that'd be.)


But I like that idea way better than a whole big forum dedicated to sports.
I think that's a very great compromise and probably would work out better.

[-Silence]

I think it would also greatly help the organization in the 4th wall and bring attention to and have a place for sports. So I'm all for it!

If that did happen I think the 4th Wall's description would need changing. I don't know what would be a good description but currently it is "General media: music, books, tv, movies..." and if the sub-forums were under it, it would just be repeating itself.

But yeah, sorry, just a thought.

[MoveAlong]

I don't think news would exactly work out because of the VT Daily Chronicle.

Tho I think that's a whole lot better idea than a boring ol' new complete forum :roll:

+ somebody would have to take the time to re-arrange the threads! :P
(the reason I say this is because the new puberty forum worked out so well because some mods spent the time to move the threads...it felt more roomy and had examples of what to post.)

+ The description should be changed! :D

I think the sub-forums should be
Music, TV/Movies, Sports, and something else
The name 'Television' doesn't work out too well because there's no place to put movies. No opinion about the books.

[Aηdy]

I don't think news would exactly work out because of the VT Daily Chronicle.

Tho I think that's a whole lot better idea than a boring ol' new complete forum :roll:

+ somebody would have to take the time to re-arrange the threads! :P
(the reason I say this is because the new puberty forum worked out so well because some mods spent the time to move the threads...it felt more roomy and had examples of what to post.)

+ The description should be changed! :D

I think the sub-forums should be
Music, TV/Movies, Sports, and something else
The name 'Television' doesn't work out too well because there's no place to put movies. No opinion about the books.

[For the bold part] I have no problem with doing that.

[For the italic part] sounds good!

[-Silence]

I don't think news would exactly work out because of the VT Daily Chronicle.

You would kind of take all the threads in the chronicle and put them in the News sub-forum and then delete the empty VT Chronicle.

That's what I was thinking anyway.

[Aηdy]

You would kind of take all the threads in the chronicle and put them in the News sub-forum and then delete the empty VT Chronicle.

That's what I was thinking anyway.

Hmm yeah thats a good idea I like that!!

[Dante]

the only problem i have with that is that the news is not supposed to be entertainment it is supposed to be informative, going to the 4th wall bunches it up in that entertainment category.

[Hyper]

the only problem i have with that is that the news is not supposed to be entertainment it is supposed to be informative, going to the 4th wall bunches it up in that entertainment category.

Yes, though sadly news has mostly turned into entertaiment as I see in the news ppl talk about some fucking Paris Hilton rather than Gaza being bombed or ppl getting killed or something politicly important.. No no rather we hear about Paris Hilton and how poor she will be thrown into jail for what 1 month? And that she will get no special treatment which is a lie..

[redcar]

I think that could be cool, but I also think the chronicle should be a sub forum in there too.

Have something set up to where it was like:

The 4th Wall
Music, Television, Sports, News.
(And maybe add books, but I'm not sure how active that'd be.)


But I like that idea way better than a whole big forum dedicated to sports.
I love this idea.

And I wouldn't say it would be an entertainment forum as such, more media. And I think its a really good idea.

[Maverick]

So... make a new poll about an expanded 4th wall?

[Aηdy]

This shizzle gonna go ahead or what then!?