Can science actually prove the exitsence of a deity?

[Gaybaby94]

Personally I think it disproves it, but I just want to know what you guys think.

[Genghis Khan]

So far science has only brought us to theories explaining how we have come to where we are without the help of a deity.

It's somewhat possible that the philosophy of science would undergo such a revolution that new perspectives will be formulated, existing reasoning modulated to the point where the existence of an entity is seen as a possibility.

lol what the hell am I saying. There is no God.

[Donkey]

Science could never prove that, cause a God could always create science.

[Texas warrior]

It could prove it in 6000-15000 years, but I don't think that it could disprove it until much later.

[Jess]

So far science has only brought us to theories explaining how we have come to where we are without the help of a deity.

It's somewhat possible that the philosophy of science would undergo such a revolution that new perspectives will be formulated, existing reasoning modulated to the point where the existence of an entity is seen as a possibility.

lol what the hell am I saying. There is no God.

basically this. I don't think science can prove a deity exist. maybe a god created science, but I don't believe that either

[Invincible]

Time will tell I guess - God said we'll really never know the full picture on earth, and scientists say we'll never really reach the end of research.

Since they line up.. I'll just be in the corner with some caramel cheese popcorn watching it all take place.

[Breakeven]

dont think so

[Cicero]

It depends what group of scientists you look at. Theirs scientists who say theirs no God while theirs others who say there is a God. The Bible has a lot of evidence and actual records of events that had happened. Many "secular" scientists try to disprove the Bible and a higher power. The Bible is the longest living book in the world, and everything has been proven true including:
-The birth and death of Christ (http://www.creatingfutures.net/birth.html)
-The events (including Noah's Ark and many of the people including King Herod)

But even Non-Christian scientists cannot deny the existence of Jesus of Nazareth. When it comes down to it, some events of the bible cannot be explained, thats why it's called Faith. But yes their is a lot of evidence backing the bible, you just have to study and get through the Secular Scientists that are all around.

If you really are curious or want evidence go here:

http://www.creatingfutures.net/evidence.html

[Rage of the Menace]

Yes, i'm a progressive creationist.

TAG, Consciousness and all these other ideologies and theories help prove that humans and our universe is in fact, abnormal.

[Borxar]

I think science does highlight the existance of God when you see the information has to come from a source (DNA) and in the positioning of the earth etc. It couldnt disprove God either because God is a matter of history, not science.

[Amaryllis]

Epicurus, an ancient Greek philosopher, argued that the existence of evil in the world is proof that god cannot exist. As in, in order for god to be "God", he must be omniscient(all-seeing), omnipotent(all-powerful) and benevolent(good). However, the existence of what is bad as observed in disease, crime and natural disasters means "God" in the very sense of the word, does not exist.

If evil exists along with god, it means either he does not know of the evil(is not omniscient), cannot stop the evil(is not omnipotent) or he knows but does not wish to stop it as he wants bad things to happen(is not benevolent).

Using the absurdum and reductio logic, our definition and understanding of god is, indeed, in correct and god may, perhaps, not exist at all.

[Borxar]

Epicurus, an ancient Greek philosopher, argued that the existence of evil in the world is proof that god cannot exist. As in, in order for god to be "God", he must be omniscient(all-seeing), omnipotent(all-powerful) and benevolent(good). However, the existence of what is bad as observed in disease, crime and natural disasters means "God" in the very sense of the word, does not exist.

If evil exists along with god, it means either he does not know of the evil(is not omniscient), cannot stop the evil(is not omnipotent) or he knows but does not wish to stop it as he wants bad things to happen(is not benevolent).

Using the absurdum and reductio logic, our definition and understanding of god is, indeed, in correct and god may, perhaps, not exist at all.

Even though this is a popular quote, it may not disprove God. CS Lewis also saw the world as cruel and unjust and turned to atheism. But the same argument turned him back to God because he began to ask where he got the categories of cruel and unjust. So logically if we assume there is evil, there must be good. If we believe there is good, then there must be some moral law. If there is moral law, there must be a moral law giver. Without God, we have no category to call something evil.

We could also say that in our limitations we cant quite comprehend all things and so just because we cant see good reasons for things doesnt mean that they don't exist. Some of the most wonderful and profound moments in life come out of painful experiences as well.

Then we could ask, does God suffer? Seeing the suffering would not be easy nor being blamed for things that werent his fault. Has he done anything to help the suffering? This is all philosophical, but something to think about!

[Magus]

Let science first prove other paranormals.

[Amaryllis]

Even though this is a popular quote, it may not disprove God. CS Lewis also saw the world as cruel and unjust and turned to atheism. But the same argument turned him back to God because he began to ask where he got the categories of cruel and unjust. So logically if we assume there is evil, there must be good. If we believe there is good, then there must be some moral law. If there is moral law, there must be a moral law giver. Without God, we have no category to call something evil.

We could also say that in our limitations we cant quite comprehend all things and so just because we cant see good reasons for things doesnt mean that they don't exist. Some of the most wonderful and profound moments in life come out of painful experiences as well.

Then we could ask, does God suffer? Seeing the suffering would not be easy nor being blamed for things that werent his fault. Has he done anything to help the suffering? This is all philosophical, but something to think about!

Why do you believe so strongly in the existence of this "god"? Because your parents taught you so? Not good enough. Because you've "spoken" to god? Not good enough. Because good things happen to you when you pray? Not good enough. Because religious texts exist? Not good enough. Because "miracles" happen? Not good enough. Because you need something to believe in? Not good enough. Because some people are cured from terminal illnesses? Not good enough. Because some find salvation in deities? Not good enough. Because we need an explanation, a parent, a reason? Not good enough.

All these "proofs" can be explained easily through facts, observations and common sense.

Understand near death experiences. Pray and observe the statistics. Look at all the contradictions in all religious scripts. Read the bible. Ask god to appear. Ask yourself if unicorns, leprechauns and medusa exists. What makes anyone so absolutely sure one god is real but not another like, say, Zeus?

Define "god" and attempt to prove his existence. Your argument will lack evidence and there will be holes that inevitably, cannot be filled. All arguments arguing the existence of deities are, indeed, futile, ignorant, obtuse, laughable, undefined and inconsequential.

Search for evidence, objectively. If evidence is not found, we may conclude that god does not exist beyond reasonable doubt.

In order for god to exist, he must be "productive, useful and required". If he is not, were he to even exist, he would be of no use to us and therefor, insignificant and unneeded.

[kenoloor]

So logically if we assume there is evil, there must be good. If we believe there is good, then there must be some moral law. If there is moral law, there must be a moral law giver.

"people have morals, therefore God exists."

That is not a logical conclusion. At all.

[ShatteredWings]

Let science first prove other paranormals.

Basically this. I want to see other paranormal things proven first. Ghosts, fairies(ect), demons, angels.

Then we hit the big daddy.

[Syvelocin]

I feel like there's a lot of things science can't explain, where it is right now. I believe there are things outside of science that we can't really fathom yet. There are certainly a couple phenomena that we're finding actually CAN be explained with science that were previously thought impossible. But we're talking small matters, not a divine entity who made everything.

This debate will surely be based on the beliefs of the individual. Well, yeah, that's what a debate is. But I mean, people who don't believe in God will of course not think that science will ever explain it because it doesn't exist. And I'm in that boat. But I'm also a person who thinks there are many things that can't be explained quite yet. Though I don't believe in God or ghosts or whatever, I think a minor few things that are sometimes associated with these words can sometimes be very normal happenings that people would like to believe are fully based in fantasy.