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Texas warrior
February 7th, 2012, 01:36 PM
"A man who won't die for something is not fit to live."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

So what's dieing for?

Gaybaby94
February 7th, 2012, 04:28 PM
Well I definently would not die for religion. I say LGBT rights all over the world.

DarkNick
February 7th, 2012, 04:55 PM
I would die for my honor,for my friends honor, for my familiys honor..
For the whole humanities lost honor!

Say It Aint Tim
February 7th, 2012, 05:00 PM
i would die for God.

Genghis Khan
February 7th, 2012, 05:27 PM
Titties and beer.

kenoloor
February 7th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Titties and beer.

Respect, bro. Respect. :hippy:

deadpie
February 7th, 2012, 05:49 PM
i would die for God.

What does this mean? Your not much of protection to your God, because he's meant to be an almighty force stronger than literally everything imaginable, so why do you think you can protect him and die for him?

embers
February 7th, 2012, 05:52 PM
There's nothing I would die for. I think it is better to fight for something and live to see it than to die for it. However if that really isn't an option, I don't think anybody can accurately say what they would die for. I remember the user Modus Operandi saying this in a thread a while back - extreme emotions are irrational, you can't rationally predict what you'd do in a life or death situation. It all boils down to the moment itself.

i would die for God.

It's that kind of thinking that got us into this mess.

Craig1995
February 7th, 2012, 05:55 PM
I'd die to let someone else live. <3

kenoloor
February 7th, 2012, 05:57 PM
i would die for God.

because, you know, "God," an omnipotent being needs help from you.

huginnmuninn
February 7th, 2012, 06:29 PM
shouldve added other... i would say people rights i wouldnt start a war or anything but if i had to choose between my life and the rest of humanities rights then i would probably sacrifice myself

trooneh
February 7th, 2012, 06:31 PM
friends and family

DarkHorses
February 7th, 2012, 06:57 PM
I chose family. I would easily choose to die in order to spare the life of someone that I loved, not just family. I'm just that kind of person. I also almost checked religion, but I hate religion. If I were to die for anything involving religion, I would die for God, and for my belief in him, but not religion. They are two very separate things in my mind.

Genghis Khan
February 7th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Ah boy, this thread is way too emotional for me. I personally don't know if I'd die for somebody. Like Sachal pointed out one can't predict what they'd do if faced with such a situation, your perceived outcome in a logical state of mind will most likely differ to a different/emotional state.

CrossingtheCourtyard
February 7th, 2012, 07:04 PM
I don't know that I'd die for anyone or anything (Sorry God, you're my bro and all but I like living. Honor? No). I'd live on for them, sure, but die for them? Um, no, not so sure.

I don't know that I'd die for anyone or anything.

Religion? Sorry God, you're still my bro and everything but I like living.
Honor? Um, no.
Family? I'd be willing to live on for them.
Friends? Same as family.
Country? Canada, you are awesome but I'm sorry.

I really don't know if I'd be willing to die for someone/something. Sure, it'd be hard to see family/friend die but to die for them...? I don't know. Maybe?

Stacey.
February 7th, 2012, 07:10 PM
I voted for nothing, but I would die for my friend.

Jess
February 7th, 2012, 07:21 PM
i would die for God.


um why would you do that? :/ does the almighty being need your help or something?


I would most likely die for a family member...

Syvelocin
February 7th, 2012, 07:45 PM
I voted family but not family in general and not only family. Other than my mum, I'm closer to other people than I am my family. A couple people in my life, yes, I would die for them. That's really it though. Nothing else is worth that sacrifice. I stand up for many things I believe in but life is priceless.

Texas warrior
February 7th, 2012, 10:09 PM
"I have many things that I am willing to kill for, respect, money, booze, women, but now I have found something to die for" Bender.

botwa
February 9th, 2012, 06:27 AM
when I sleep I constantly see nightmares about my family. I say I would die for my family. It always feels so bad.

Breakeven
February 9th, 2012, 08:22 AM
him! </3

Clawhammer
February 9th, 2012, 09:53 AM
Honor. I chose it because to me, it encompasses family and friends and other such duties. If I have not honor, I have nothing, and so without it I might as well be dead anyway.

Texas warrior
February 9th, 2012, 12:07 PM
It's kinda sad that so many people voted for nothing, MLK frowns apon them.

embers
February 9th, 2012, 12:29 PM
It's kinda sad that so many people voted for nothing, MLK frowns apon them.

Just because he's Martin Luther King doesn't mean I can't disagree with him.

ImCoolBeans
February 9th, 2012, 03:47 PM
So because certain people wouldn't give their lives for other people they're automatically bad? I mean sure, you may disagree but I really don't find that a big deal at all.

Inspiration
February 9th, 2012, 05:26 PM
I'd die for a Klondike Bar...

kenoloor
February 9th, 2012, 05:36 PM
I'd die for a Klondike Bar...

Winner.

ImCoolBeans
February 9th, 2012, 06:17 PM
I'd die for a Klondike Bar...

Wow, thats perfection lol

antiabort
February 9th, 2012, 09:26 PM
world peace, no more government corruption. Not like that'll ever happen though.

Bath
February 9th, 2012, 11:41 PM
I would die for my brother.

I don't care about much but I love the fuck out of that kid.

Thanatos
February 10th, 2012, 12:13 AM
What Shall We Die For...

QdwvW_rG6Mg

Texas warrior
February 10th, 2012, 12:21 AM
So because certain people wouldn't give their lives for other people they're automatically bad? I mean sure, you may disagree but I really don't find that a big deal at all.

True, But MLK is right people that don't have something, anything that they are willing to die for to not deserve to live.

AppealToReason
February 10th, 2012, 12:40 AM
True, But MLK is right people that don't have something, anything that they are willing to die for to not deserve to live.

As others have said, how do you know how you would react in a situation where you had to die for someone or something else? We can talk all night about what we would and wouldn't do, but fact is that we have no clue what we would actually do until we were in a situation where we were facing death.
And saying someone doesn't deserve to live for valuing their life over other lives is stupid.

Texas warrior
February 10th, 2012, 12:56 AM
Any good person should have SOMETHING worth dieing for, even if its only one thing.

Ps you can bad rep me all you like for saying this, but this is my opinion and I will stand behind it no matter how much grief I get for it .

AppealToReason
February 10th, 2012, 01:00 AM
Why does having something to die for make you a good person?

Inspiration
February 10th, 2012, 01:01 AM
Winner.

Wow, thats perfection lol

Thank you very much I try to keep things serious as possible when it has to do with life and death.

EDIT: Still, a Klondike bar...and maybe some skittles...

Texas warrior
February 10th, 2012, 01:13 AM
Why does having something to die for make you a good person?

If your own life is worth more than your friend, family, country and honer put together then you are evil.

christianteen
February 10th, 2012, 01:16 AM
All you people who say you would die. Think about it. You say that now but imagine when it actually comes around. I doubt any of you would actually die. It's built into us as animals to survive, not to sacrifice.

AppealToReason
February 10th, 2012, 01:19 AM
If your own life is worth more than your friend, family, country and honer put together then you are evil.

Right! So say, a doctor who saves lives everyday says he would not die for anyone, but a murderer says he would. Is the murderer a better person than the life saving doctor?
And, as said before, words mean shit. I doubt most of the people who said they would die for ____ really would when it came down to it.

Texas warrior
February 10th, 2012, 02:23 AM
I stand by my point that you are evil your life means more than your friend, family, honor and country put together. But it is easy to see your point, yes words are worth shit, as for the Doc and the murderer, I don't know. as near as I can figure they are both evil, but maybe the live he saved balances it out but I am not sure. I will have to think on it.

kenoloor
February 10th, 2012, 09:37 AM
you are evil your life means more than your friend, family, honor and country put together.

Why?

User Deleted
February 10th, 2012, 09:55 AM
The doctor is not evil. Everyone is supposed to have a natural fear of death and if you don't you are legally considered insane. Even if it may be immoral of him it isn't evil.

As for the murderer as long as he kills others even if he will give his own life he may be not as horrible as other murderers, however he is still bad.

I stand by my point that you are evil your life means more than your friend, family, honor and country put together.

This is a good point, but like I said I only see it as immoral. Evil is to do the bad action in my opinion, bad or immoral is to do nothing about it. Now, I suppose I've been looking at this as person saving a person. If your life would save your whole country family friends and honor, perhaps millions of people, you may be evil not to give your life.

And, as said before, words mean shit. I doubt most of the people who said they would die for ____ really would when it came down to it.

I definitely agree with this. Easier said than done. Now I believe there are people who mean it. Like the armies of people protecting their country, I mean, they actively proving it all the time.

kenoloor
February 10th, 2012, 09:57 AM
The doctor is not evil. Everyone is supposed to have a natural fear of death and if you don't you are legally considered insane.

er...no.

embers
February 10th, 2012, 09:59 AM
If your own life is worth more than your friend, family, country and honer put together then you are evil.

That is probably the most bullshit point in this thread. Whether or not you think your own life is worth more than something else has little bearing on whether you would actually give it up. How about you actually address the point of unpredictability in extremely emotional circumstances instead of calling people 'evil'.

UnknownError
February 10th, 2012, 12:28 PM
Honor: I dont really care tbh.
Family: It fully depends on who, what, why, when, how.
Country: No. Why would I die for a country?
Religion: Im not religious.

User Deleted
February 10th, 2012, 07:24 PM
er...no.

http://www.nmha.org/go/suicide
This seems to indirectly agree with me

However my main resource was a two week lesson in health class about violence, domestic violence, dating violence, bullying, and a number of other things. The instructor who came in said something along the lines of in dating violence if someone is threatening "if I leave I will kill myself" if you report it to the police they will take care of it and give them counseling and watch them because suicide is considered an act of insanity. Most people have a natural want to live and if you don't have that you are considered insane.

I dunno, maybe that is wrong but it sounded pretty good to me.

crzy15
February 10th, 2012, 07:29 PM
im not saying i wanna die,, but My family is my most important concern,, Id do anything for my mom dad and brother,,

Texas warrior
February 10th, 2012, 07:59 PM
The doctor is not evil. Everyone is supposed to have a natural fear of death and if you don't you are legally considered insane. Even if it may be immoral of him it isn't evil.

As for the murderer as long as he kills others even if he will give his own life he may be not as horrible as other murderers, however he is still bad.



This is a good point, but like I said I only see it as immoral. Evil is to do the bad action in my opinion, bad or immoral is to do nothing about it. Now, I suppose I've been looking at this as person saving a person. If your life would save your whole country family friends and honor, perhaps millions of people, you may be evil not to give your life.
I definitely agree with this. Easier said than done. Now I believe there are people who mean it. Like the armies of people protecting their country, I mean, they actively proving it all the time.

I wave the white flag, your right the doc is not evil, only immoral. The murderer is evil.

Mortal Coil
February 10th, 2012, 08:15 PM
I voted nothing, but would die for my friends. Even though nobody would say they're friends with me, I have this strange platonic love for almost everyone I know. I would die for them.
I would also die for things like LGBT rights and world peace and ending starvation.

kenoloor
February 10th, 2012, 08:37 PM
http://www.nmha.org/go/suicide
This seems to indirectly agree with me

However my main resource was a two week lesson in health class about violence, domestic violence, dating violence, bullying, and a number of other things. The instructor who came in said something along the lines of

I dunno, maybe that is wrong but it sounded pretty good to me.

Agreed. Wanting to die is usually a sign of mental instability. However, not fearing death is not a sign of insanity. I'm certainly not afraid of death, because I've accepted that it's inevitable. I don't want to die, but I don't fear death. I fail to see what's so insane about accepting natural occurrences.

Cicero
February 10th, 2012, 10:25 PM
um why would you do that? :/ does the almighty being need your help or something?


I would most likely die for a family member...

Because it shows that you truly love him. And that you know where you are going in the afterlife. When your a Christian you don't have a fear of dying because you know where your gonna spend the afterlife. Many many people throughout history have died for God. In fact, the tail of "Bloody Mary" was really named after a queen who persecuted many Christians who had a faith in God. They died, because they trusted God literally with their lives. Queen Mary I killed about 300 Christians during her reign, she would burn them alive. One of the victims children had to watch his dad get burnt alive, while his father just looked at him and said it will be alright, I'll be with my Saviour.

God doesn't need someone to die for him, but people used to kill Christians gruesomely. The way they wouldn't have to die is to denounce God. So if they truly trusted God with their life, and they loved him. Why would they denounce him? It's just like saying, why would you denounce your mother?

northskater110
February 10th, 2012, 11:28 PM
I would die for anything that really mattered to me honestly.

User Deleted
February 10th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Agreed. Wanting to die is usually a sign of mental instability. However, not fearing death is not a sign of insanity. I'm certainly not afraid of death, because I've accepted that it's inevitable. I don't want to die, but I don't fear death. I fail to see what's so insane about accepting natural occurrences.

Okay, yeah, I suppose I overlooked that. Still, I think my point holds that if he didn't want to die it would be just immoral not to sacrifice himself for said categories.

BossHogg
February 10th, 2012, 11:37 PM
i would die for God.

Ayye same here!!!!!!

A man who won't die for something is not fit to live.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

So what's dieing for?

Some of yall on here dont understand the quote at all....MLK isnt saying that if you dont live for anything you dont deserve to live...he is saying everybody, EVERYBODY cares about something or someone and that there is no use for a person not to care about ANYTHING or ANYONE at all to waist the rest of their life making other people miserable and yourself miserable...But at the time when he said this he was making a point that the blacks who gave up on trying to get equal rights dont deserve to live because they are not helping to solve the problem!

posts merged. do not double post, use the edit button instead. -embers

Can'tHelpIt
February 11th, 2012, 10:10 PM
I would probably die for anyone that I love, loves me back, and would live their life to the fullest and no not in love just love

Definatly not for Religon because it causes hate and usually causes more death Ex. Gays, Arguements, etc.
Not for my country bc we are a war ridden country where lots of people die everyday.
Basically I would not die for anything that only causes more death and hate

Though I'm still afraid of dieing I'm a little afraid of there not being anything later ya' know?

Rootin
April 28th, 2012, 04:09 AM
If you die for someone you love, you will be to DEAD to love them. and vice versa.
But fighting for someone, now that's a different story.
But for me, i would NEARLY die for 1 person...

FullyAlive
April 28th, 2012, 04:46 AM
I voted family but I mean the people I've chosen to be my family. This does include my immediate family, but also certain friends. I love them as family and i'd do anything for them.

Kaius
April 28th, 2012, 04:49 AM
Pretty much what others said. I selected family, but not just close family I mean the family i've gathered myself. Close friends etc.

Love.Hate
April 28th, 2012, 05:17 AM
Depends on the situation, but family

Incompris
April 28th, 2012, 05:41 AM
My family, they may treat my like crud sometimes, but they r still my family.

Rage of the Menace
April 29th, 2012, 12:21 AM
All of them :)

Weeping_Angel
April 29th, 2012, 12:37 AM
I would die for myself, and only myself. Because I'm a selfish bitch-whore and there's nothing you can do about it.

double r
April 29th, 2012, 12:47 AM
I would die for Honor and Family

Crescendo
April 29th, 2012, 05:25 PM
Honor. Respect. Rep.

PerpetualMotionSquad
April 30th, 2012, 03:08 PM
My family and my best friend

Aves
April 30th, 2012, 06:43 PM
I would honestly die for some of my friends. They mean so much to me, it'd be worth it. Also, if I had to defend the life of another for what's right.

Smeagol
April 30th, 2012, 07:08 PM
I would die for my family.

Wooba
April 30th, 2012, 07:50 PM
I'd die for what i believe in.

Texas warrior
December 12th, 2012, 10:30 AM
I want to what some of the new members think about this thread.

MichaelJ
December 12th, 2012, 02:15 PM
some may be shocked that I chose country and religion. When I say country I mean I will defend my people and our ideals same with religion. Otherwise you wont stand for anything

Human
December 12th, 2012, 05:26 PM
I think I'd die for my parents definitely, even though they wouldn't want me to.

Alexwellace
December 12th, 2012, 06:23 PM
I wouldn't see the point in dieing for someone. While im not the kind to trip my friend up so the lion eats him and not me im also not the type to pull his head out of the lions mouth either as there would be no point to it. I would die for the greater good, for the needs of the many and for the ability to eat chocolet to death, but not for a one for one trade.

If me dieing saved the world of course i would, but if i had to hold the doop open for that middle aged lady running from the zombie horde and there is a chance of the zombies getting into to me id shut that door before she had a chance! Its not nice to say, but its true and its natural, its our survival instinct and it is here for a reason.

CharlieFinley
December 12th, 2012, 06:40 PM
Well I definently would not die for religion. I say LGBT rights all over the world.

Really? You wouldn't die for religion? YOU?
"Actually I don't celebrate Christmas."
"So you would rather have a mega-pastor buy their 7th car than pay for a cure for cancer or AIDS?"
"The holidays are upon us and that means many religious groups are putting up nativity scenes out in public. I, as a militant atheist, believe that putting up religious stuff in public is the equivalent of taking out one's penis and shoving it down other people's throats. But that's my opinion. Do you think nativity scenes are constitutional or not when they infringe on other people's rights to freedom of/from religion."
"And people ask why I hate religion so much. I'm sorry but to me, one bad apple makes the whole bunch rotten."

Well, color me shocked. Apropos of that last quotation, you do realize that by your own logic, your rampant asshattery and consistent disregard for common civility, the conventions of debate, and the socio-political makeup of the United States mean that all atheists are a rotten bunch?

some may be shocked that I chose country and religion. When I say country I mean I will defend my people and our ideals same with religion. Otherwise you wont stand for anything
This was way out of line. I'm sorry.

TheSocialInspector
December 13th, 2012, 12:15 AM
Family.

“Parents were the only ones obligated to love you; from the rest of the world you had to earn it.” ~ Anna Brashares

Past_Lives
December 13th, 2012, 02:10 AM
only for family or honor

lukey1994
December 13th, 2012, 05:30 AM
Family for me :P

MichaelJ
December 13th, 2012, 01:39 PM
Really? You wouldn't die for religion? YOU?
"Actually I don't celebrate Christmas."
"So you would rather have a mega-pastor buy their 7th car than pay for a cure for cancer or AIDS?"
"The holidays are upon us and that means many religious groups are putting up nativity scenes out in public. I, as a militant atheist, believe that putting up religious stuff in public is the equivalent of taking out one's penis and shoving it down other people's throats. But that's my opinion. Do you think nativity scenes are constitutional or not when they infringe on other people's rights to freedom of/from religion."
"And people ask why I hate religion so much. I'm sorry but to me, one bad apple makes the whole bunch rotten."

Well, color me shocked. Apropos of that last quotation, you do realize that by your own logic, your rampant asshattery and consistent disregard for common civility, the conventions of debate, and the socio-political makeup of the United States mean that all atheists are a rotten bunch?


That's lovely. Would you be willing to translate that into English?



Hi sorry wrote this in a rush, im new here :)
If I say I would die for my country, I do not mean something superficial like a flag or a stupid tradition rather I mean I will die for everything my country is. I will sacrifice my life to defend my people, my countries ideology and ideals. As for religion I will also defend my ideals and a nation as a whole. Im Jewish and we have sacrificed a lot(violent pogroms in middle eastern countries like Yemen, and of course the Holocaust) in the past few hundred years and for me to give it up in a flash is a slap in the face to those who have died defending it

Troy35216
December 13th, 2012, 02:09 PM
a Klondike Bar?

Skyline
December 13th, 2012, 06:39 PM
I would die for LGBT rights.

Sudds3
December 13th, 2012, 08:52 PM
Iwould die for family and my country. I would also die for my friends hands down. Thats one of the biggest things that wasnt in the poll. If my friends were in danger of dying I would die to save them, considering im pretty worthless its not much of a loss. So yea, just wanted to say that friends is a big one

Sir Suomi
December 13th, 2012, 09:19 PM
For my Honor, because that's one thing that only you can take away from yourself.
For my Family, because their sometimes the only one's with a helping hand.
For my Country, to server it proud, even in it's darkest hour.

Danny_boi 16
December 13th, 2012, 09:32 PM
I will die for everything, but I would die for nothing.

CharlieFinley
December 13th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Hi sorry wrote this in a rush, im new here :)
If I say I would die for my country, I do not mean something superficial like a flag or a stupid tradition rather I mean I will die for everything my country is. I will sacrifice my life to defend my people, my countries ideology and ideals. As for religion I will also defend my ideals and a nation as a whole. Im Jewish and we have sacrificed a lot(violent pogroms in middle eastern countries like Yemen, and of course the Holocaust) in the past few hundred years and for me to give it up in a flash is a slap in the face to those who have died defending it

Now I feel bad. I can't really respond with cruelty to that kind of earnestness, especially not today. I sincerely apologize for what I said, from the bottom of my heart.

aprilshowers
December 14th, 2012, 12:25 AM
The person I love.

CharlieFinley
December 14th, 2012, 01:04 AM
I will die for everything, but I would die for nothing.

Yes, yes. That's very deep.


What does it actually mean?

Abyssal Echo
December 14th, 2012, 01:15 AM
my country which covers all my friends and family :D

Sephtyan
December 14th, 2012, 01:26 AM
I would gladly trade my life for either a dog or an otter. Everything else has about a whelk's chance in a supernova or getting my valour.

CharlieHorse
December 14th, 2012, 01:38 AM
A wise man once said:
"The point of war isn't to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his!"

MichaelJ
December 15th, 2012, 04:03 PM
Now I feel bad. I can't really respond with cruelty to that kind of earnestness, especially not today. I sincerely apologize for what I said, from the bottom of my heart.

no need to apologise, i did not explain it very well in the first place. hope you see my viewpoint. So what would you sacrifice yourself for? if anything

Professional Russian
December 15th, 2012, 04:06 PM
Fuck. If I remember correctly i said country

Danny_boi 16
December 16th, 2012, 10:57 AM
Yes, yes. That's very deep.


What does it actually mean?

What it means there is no good reason to die for nothing. everyone has to die for something.

User Deleted
December 16th, 2012, 12:42 PM
I would die for my family, friends, and the country (not for the government (gosh no) but for the people living in it)

CharlieFinley
December 16th, 2012, 10:22 PM
no need to apologise, i did not explain it very well in the first place. hope you see my viewpoint. So what would you sacrifice yourself for? if anything

Family, friends, country.

Jakejjj
December 17th, 2012, 12:27 AM
My bestfriend s family and everything else

ProudConservative
December 17th, 2012, 10:33 PM
My country, America, and my family.

PerpetualImperfexion
December 17th, 2012, 10:59 PM
How about freedom?

Stronk Serb
December 18th, 2012, 09:37 AM
I would die for my family, my honor, my best friends, freedom, freedom of my religion, should it be oppressed, for my fellow man.

Jimmy Page
December 18th, 2012, 09:42 AM
Art :wub:

kenoloor
December 18th, 2012, 02:36 PM
What it means there is no good reason to die for nothing. everyone has to die for something.

Because you say so? Yeah, okay.

MichaelJ
December 18th, 2012, 02:39 PM
How about freedom?

Hi :)
you make a valid point, but i believe in most of our cases we will all be indirectly sacrificing our lifes for freedom. Be it for country or religion
as silly as it sounds you can sacrifice your life for freedom :)

Danny_boi 16
December 18th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Because you say so? Yeah, okay.

I just don't think it good to die for nothing. Most people don't die for nothing. But you can have your believe.