If civil war broke out witch side would you take?

[Texas warrior]

One side is "emperor" Obama and a bigger federal government.

The other side is Ron Paul and a more state government.



Ps what states would do you think would revolt?

[ImCoolBeans]

Well a civil war today definitely would not consist of certain states vs. certain states. The civil war was over slave boundaries, thats why there was a clear cut group of states that succeeded. I don't think states would revolt against the union in a situation like this because people are so integrated politically. There isn't a border anywhere that says we practice this here, and we practice this here - so I just don't see this happening

[Jupiter]

I would do nothing. Just saying, I don't think that "emperor obama" would ever try getting that title. lol.

[Iron Man]

Why would I have to choose between Ron Paul and Obama?

[Quercus]

I dont think it would be a war against political matters.. I think it would be between the rich and the poor.

[ImCoolBeans]

I dont think it would be a war against political matters.. I think it would be between the rich and the poor.

Which is totally political. The the whole stink is being made about the 99% and the 1% because the rich pretty much have it made for them by the government.

I just don't see it escalating to that.

[Sugaree]

Save myself the shell shock and go neutral.

[kenoloor]

Canada would be calling my name.

[User Deleted]

Call me stupid because I don't like war and don't want to be involved in it or to have it in the first place so MK4 and kevlar vest is out. I really have no "good reason" I just don't like it.

I wouldn't really have an opinion in who to go to. I honestly haven't learned much about politics though at this point that seems like a really good idea to.

Essentially I would do nothing. I would find somewhere safe and wait it out, probably just get a citizenship in Canada because it's close but stretches further away if driving becomes a need, or Spain. Partly because I am learning Spanish, and partly because it is pretty much completely out of the way.

[Say It Aint Tim]

Obama side

[Texas warrior]

With a M4 or, or with out?

[Genghis Khan]

I'd be chilling in great Britain. Oh wait, I already am. Heh.

[Jess]

I would move to Canada and move back until the war is over. I want nothing to do with the war and I honestly don't know whose side to take.

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

I don't theorize on clearly ludicrous situations.
I highly doubt there's going to be a civil war of any sort, at least, not in the sense of the nation splitting in two and fighting one another. At most I could possibly imagine some sort of ill-fated rebellion of a few extremists. Even that seems beyond the realm of likelihood.

EDIT: Nor do I own any sort of gun or Kevlar vest for that matter. I have no idea why an average person would need either of those honestly. Not to mention, whatever military gets set up by either side would likely give regulation weapons and supplies to its soldiers. That is, unless, you're imagining one side having a makeshift, rag-tag militia, while the other has access to the U.S.'s trained military corps, in which case it seems obvious who would win. (Or were you imagining some sort of unorganized, guerrilla warfare, with suburban homes decimated to little more than ruined shells of battle, with fires on every street, the dead or dying piled in heaps where there was no energy left to have a proper burial, and bandits scurrying through the destroyed towns, salvaging whatever they could for themselves, like so many rats? As much fun as that'd be, I don't see that happening. Especially that.)

[Texas warrior]

I know that you can take your own weapon into the army , dont know about armor thow. as for a "rag tag army" they have beaten beater trained armys befor. And as for the legetamacy of a real civil war, people said some of the same things that you are saying when the first civil war broke out.
It really does not take that much to make a people want to form there own country, South Sudan, USA, CSA, are all examples of people seceded because of shitty government. Two of them broke out into civil war, South Sudan might have I do not know. My point is that one common sine effect of government over playing its hand is civil war.

[huginnmuninn]

am i the only one that got bothered by the "witch" in the title.
if anybody in the us tried to become an emperor and tried to rule over me i would immedietly start making star wars jokes and then pull out a gun.

[Genghis Khan]

Man this thread really is quite funny. Emperor Obama dude, what are the odds?

[Caligine]

Canada would be calling my name.

Yeah man, I'd just move to like Australia or something loll.

[Sugaree]

am i the only one that got bothered by the "witch" in the title.

http://thetruthsyndicate.com/files/2010/10/Christine-O-Donnell-not-a-witch1.jpg

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

I know that you can take your own weapon into the army , dont know about armor thow. as for a "rag tag army" they have beaten beater trained armys befor.
For some reason, I don't see rednecks with their hunting rifles and pots-and-pans as armor defeating any sort of trained military.
And as for the legetamacy of a real civil war, people said some of the same things that you are saying when the first civil war broke out.
It really does not take that much to make a people want to form there own country, South Sudan, USA, CSA, are all examples of people seceded because of shitty government. Two of them broke out into civil war, South Sudan might have I do not know.
>Implying that the US had a shitty government at the time of the Civil War
>Implying it has a shitty government now

My point is that one common sine effect of government over playing its hand is civil war.
I find that a common sine effect is 1/2 and somewhat less commonly √2/2, but that seems irrelevant.

[Texas warrior]

[QUOTE=Riu1122;1606812]For some reason, I don't see rednecks with their hunting rifles and pots-and-pans as armor defeating any sort of trained military.

We rednecks are better with are weapons than you would think, plus in my civil war sarnario both sides are formaly trained, not the rag tag army.


>Implying that the US had a shitty government at the time of the Civil War
>Implying it has a shitty government now

Will considering the fact that the American government levied taxis agenst the south that caused bankrupsy in several company's. Then when the south attacked Fort Sumter, witch is in the the south, Abe Lincoln made it sound like we had attacked american soil. So then Union troop loot, burn and raped the south, metaphorically rape. And in the north if you spoke out against what Lincoln was doing, he would have you court marshaled in a military trile.
3000 american reporters were held as prisoners of war. When was Lincoln killed the surpream court said "there is a Constitution even though we are at war".

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

And if you are trying to say that are government is not a pile of shit then you the stupidest asshole on VT.
This coming from the man, or rather boy, who claimed that Emperor Obama was going to lead his Federal (you do realize the meaning of federal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government) don't you?) army against the highly-trained rednecks of the Ron Paul-controlled South. [/ad hominem]

Also, I'll be honest; I don't know much about the Civil War, aside from what I was taught in eighth grade, so I won't try to argue anything regarding that.
But I will, however, state that the theory of a civil war breaking out is ridiculous, especially with the circumstances you have defined. I really don't think anyone really took this thread very seriously.

[ImCoolBeans]

This coming from the man, or rather boy, who claimed that Emperor Obama was going to lead his Federal (you do realize the meaning of federal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government) don't you?) army against the highly-trained rednecks of the Ron Paul-controlled South. [/ad hominem]

Also, I'll be honest; I don't know much about the Civil War, aside from what I was taught in eighth grade, so I won't try to argue anything regarding that.
But I will, however, state that the theory of a civil war breaking out is ridiculous, especially with the circumstances you have defined. I really don't think anyone really took this thread very seriously.

Yeah, thats a totally ridiculous scenario if I may say so myself.

[Texas warrior]

This coming from the man, or rather boy, who claimed that Emperor Obama was going to lead his Federal (you do realize the meaning of federal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government) don't you?) army against the highly-trained rednecks of the Ron Paul-controlled South. [/ad hominem]

Also, I'll be honest; I don't know much about the Civil War, aside from what I was taught in eighth grade, so I won't try to argue anything regarding that.
But I will, however, state that the theory of a civil war breaking out is ridiculous, especially with the circumstances you have defined. I really don't think anyone really took this thread very seriously.


Okay for one if there was nobody stopping Obama from declarering himself emperor do you really think that he wouldn't. Two the South is a very strong warrior culture, Most people in the South respect and know how to use gun's. Now you and your 32 mistakes are going to ask for hard facts, well here's a hard fact, the bulk of great soldiers and Generals in America are from the south. Tomas Jackson,
Robert E. Lee, J.E.B. Stuart, the best cavalry commander in America some say the world. And many more besides. In all the wars that America fought in Southern soldiers have been valued for there strength and tenacious nature. So mock us at your own expense. And lastly this was not a very serous thread, I just wanted to know what peoples opinions were.

[Mortal Coil]

Nothing. Both prospective governments disgust me, and although I'm somewhat hotheaded, I'm a pacifist somewhere deep inside.

[Scooby Dooby Drew]

Okay for one if there was nobody stopping Obama from declarering himself emperor do you really think that he wouldn't.
Actually, no, I don't think he would.
Two the South is a very strong warrior culture,
Yep, we Southerners are regular ol' Zulu warriors
Most people in the South respect and know how to use gun's. Now you and your 32 mistakes are going to ask for hard facts,
37, dear. Most likely higher by this point.

well here's a hard fact, the bulk of great soldiers and Generals in America are from the south. Tomas Jackson,
Robert E. Lee, J.E.B. Stuart, the best cavalry commander in America some say the world.
...by whom? Overzealous Southerners?
And many more besides. In all the wars that America fought in Southern soldiers have been valued for there strength and tenacious nature. So mock us at your own expense.
You do realize that I was born and raised in Texas, don't you?
And lastly this was not a very serous thread, I just wanted to know what peoples opinions were.
And all I've done was give you my opinion. You really have no right to start whining about it.

[Jackl45]

Can't bring your own weapons into the military and the civil war was about slavery not government. Your the stereotype redneck.

Also he's saying the south has the best soilders...you lost the civil war and Texas begged to join the union.

posts merged. do not double post, use the edit button instead dude. -embers

[Texas warrior]

We would have rather died than join the union, but the stupid stuck up fuck up Andrew Johnson had us swimming in brainwashed Blue Coats. So we surrendered, It was only after Reconstruction that we realized are mistake, surrendering and hoping for human kindnesses. Robert E. Lee said "If I had known what my surrender at Appomattox would cause, I would have have make my last stand there and died proudly with my men". I hope that you yankees are proud of what you did, you but fucked the south because your "glorious" leader told you to, And Jack your saying that war was not caused by the north pushing taxes down are throat, and then laughing in are faces when we tried to repel them in congress, and the South fighting the war has nothing to do with the fact that when we attacked fort Sumter to break the blockade that was preventing trade, We were being attack and having are citys burned to the ground. That's amazing, I hate slavery and if I lived in the south back then though's things would have made me join the Southern army. But no you say it was about slavery. Well that explains why Ulysses owned slaves and why Marse Robert call slavery a abomination. It all makes scene. Ow Wait.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRdeZSleWHI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LU9I0KxWi4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj0Vgptaz5Q&feature=related


Ps for every one Southern soldier that fell, two Blue coats had to lay down there lives, so I think we were the better soldiers, Especially considering that we were heavily out numbered.

Riu sorry that I didn't rant at your post maby later.

posts merged. do not double post, please use the edit button instead. -embers

[Thanatos]

IF ITS ON THE INTERNET IT MUST BE TRUE!

That aside, I must first ask that you, OP, please reread everything you post and use things like grammar and spell check so that the rest of us can have a much easier time reading your posts.

Now onto the argument. The Civil war was happening regardless of Lincoln winning the presidency, this merely accelerated it. The Morrill Tariff actually occurred after many Southern States had already seceded. Lincoln was merely preserving the Union, or attempting to. Finally, of course more Union Soldiers died then Confederate, that is how guerilla warfare works. Look at the Revolutionary War, the Americans weren't the better army, but the element of surprise works heavily to your advantage. The US is learning this the hard way in Iraq now.

Now onto this make believe war. Firstly, Obama is a horrid president, and I'm not just saying that because the economy is fudged. I am a Republican tis true, but I just feel on a personal level that Obama has yet to achieve success in any category. I don't believe that he would attempt to make himself emperor under any circumstances.

If for some idiotic reason he did, I would pull out of my driveway in NJ, and along with my AP Gov-Pol teacher, who is an Ex-Marine and hardcore Conservative, begin a journey to the foothills of Georgia.

[Texas warrior]

To be honest the Morrill Tariff was not the cause of the civil war, it's cause was when the Union spit in are face's after we tried to loosen taxes in the south, in congress.

[DerBear]

I would be in the UK, so dont need to worry about civil war in the states

Also I would be watching FOX news just to see the arses in the US who would go on a civil war over simple politics.

Sometimes things are worth fighting over but in this case, simple politics would not be enough for me to go up into war over.

Anyway why did someone make this post?

[Marky]

I honostley can say that I think texas would revolt if Rick Perry somehow got to being the president

[Can'tHelpIt]

ya' know i fucking hate this country so much I would see this as a chance to let me go to britain before im 18 am i the only one?

And the first civil really was about uniting the country not about slaves (but thats the elementary version) Linchon was mmy favorite president unitl I heard this (not sure if its percise but) "I don't care if we save all slaves, some slaves, or no slaves as long as we unite" < that was totally wrong but you get the jist of it

[Erasmus]

I would do nothing

[boonsim]

Considering the question the title (incorrectly) asks, I have to choose the "witch" side.

LERN TWO SPEL!!!!!