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Mtc 10
February 4th, 2012, 06:09 PM
He intrigues me. He was nuts. But very intelligent. I honor him for his intelligence and that he was strong mentally..

Say It Aint Tim
February 4th, 2012, 06:21 PM
uhh i mean its nice to note him for intelligence but when you say Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, Barack obama, Jesus Christ, and Adolf Hitler, you can see which one doesnt fit i mean he was smart and all but then again he killed millions because they werent his preference.

StoppingTime
February 4th, 2012, 07:18 PM
I don't care how smart he was, I can't wrap my head around the fact you "honor" someone who killed about 12,000,000 people.

UnknownError
February 4th, 2012, 07:36 PM
I don't care how smart he was, I can't wrap my head around the fact you "honor" someone who killed about 12,000,000 people.

It's much more common than you'd think. I've heard it quite a few times.

Amaryllis
February 4th, 2012, 07:39 PM
I don't care how smart he was, I can't wrap my head around the fact you "honor" someone who killed about 12,000,000 people.

You know, Hitler wasn't actually the worst person who ever lived. He destroyed the lives of a staggering number of people but so did many others.

If you've ever read First They Killed My Father - you'll see Year Zero in Cambodia was a horrible, slow death for many. Under the rule of Pol Pot, many children, women and men were forced to flee their homes, intellectuals, ex-supporters of the government, artists, heck, people with glasses were killed or forced to work in minefields(not that they ever came back). Their families were killed, as well. Every. Single. One of them.

All the rest were made to work under -horrible- conditions with very little food and long, hard 14 hour work days, 7 days of the week. Pol Pot did some pretty cruel things. Don't even get me -started- on the Killing Fields.

http://wyolife.com/graphics/ngor_haing1.jpg
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/killing-fields.jpg

And Vladimir the Impaler did some pretty nasty things. Okay, why am I babbling on about random rulers?

Hitler. He had charisma, good use of body language (except he's gotta stop protecting his manhood, you can so tell he's ashamed of his single testicle) He had a knack for wrapping people around his finger and bleeding fear.

But oh god. The chinese imperial rulers. Holy -crap- were they harsh. Oh my gooooddd.... What about those that made the people build the Great Wall of China. Fucking hell must that've hurt. Imagine climbing up millions of steps and building more right on the top of the fucking atmosphere with your bare hands o__o

EDIT: Just to clear up, I'm not saying Hitler hasn't done horrible things. He has. I'm just part Cambodian and I know a lot more about it than I do Hitler.

embers
February 4th, 2012, 07:54 PM
You know, Hitler wasn't actually the worst person who ever lived. He destroyed the lives of a staggering number of people but so did many others.

That doesn't really negate the point here...

Desuetude
February 4th, 2012, 07:56 PM
Lots of people have done bad and it's usually because of their intelligence that they were able to get away with it. You have to be pretty cunning to kill so many people without getting killed yourself.

I don't know why you honer him. That is completely lost on me, why would you honor someone who like said above killed millions of innocent people, made them work in harsh conditions, made them afraid to live. It's just not right. Yes he may have been clever and mentally strong but cumon can you not find someone who actually put that to good use instead of using it for evil?

trooneh
February 4th, 2012, 07:56 PM
Hitler was one of the most barbaric rulers in modern history. Pol Pot, like Z mentioned, as well as Stalin and Mao were also up there in terms of cruelty. However, Hitler stands out because he came to power through the elective process and was widely supported when he began his rule.

However, Hitler was also overrated in his intelligence. His major strengths, to me, were in his oratorical skills as well as his political acumen. People consider him a military genius, for example, but it was his ideas in the end that led to the complete and total defeat of Nazi Germany. Most senior generals from Nazi Germany, such as Wilhelm Keitel and Alfred Jodl, considered Hitler a master of bluffs but nothing else, and that his grasp of military strategy was what would be expected from a lance corporal.


Hitler was psychopathic, by all accounts. It is said that he had no normal friendships, and he only viewed people by how useful they were to him. His policies might have had something to do with Germany's economic turnaround, but there are two problems with that:

1. Hjalmar Schacht was considered the mastermind behind this by his use of the Mefo Bills and
2. Germans were actually paid very little in Nazi Germany, so though unemployment was low, quality of life was also relatively low.

Hitler was simply able to seize his opportunities and use his rhetoric in order to find his way into power, and once there his personality refused to let him change his mind once he decided on a path, and that's what led to his downfall.

Also, what sets Hitler apart from other murderous dictators was the chilling efficiency in the killings. Mass murder became an art, which the Nazis were masters of.

ImCoolBeans
February 4th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Hitler does not deserve any honor, regardless of his charisma, body language and use of fear. He was barbaric and sick. Starting a genocide is the most dishonorable thing a human being could possibly do.

And how was he "strong mentally"? He was extremely unstable and had contemplated suicide for a very long time before he shot himself. That does not seem so mentally strong to me, sounds more like a sick, unstable, psychopathic man who killed himself in the anticipation of defeat and failure.

Hitler does not deserve any honor for any of his actions.

ryan2000
February 4th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Well, I do agree that i admire Hitler's intelligence, but obviously, do not honor or admire what he did in his life. He was a political and warfare genius; he knew what he wanted, and he found a way to achieve just that. And all of you who ignore his intelligence because he killed so many people, look at what our ancestors did to the native inhabitants of North America. We drove them from their homes, forced them to walk the Trail of Tears, (on which thousands died) and created a genocide, just as Hitler did. However, what he did was still very wrong, and unforgivable, but you should not look down upon his genius for that.

StoppingTime
February 4th, 2012, 09:17 PM
Well, I do agree that i admire Hitler's intelligence, but obviously, do not honor or admire what he did in his life. He was a political and warfare genius; he knew what he wanted, and he found a way to achieve just that. And all of you who ignore his intelligence because he killed so many people, look at what our ancestors did to the native inhabitants of North America. We drove them from their homes, forced them to walk the Trail of Tears, (on which thousands died) and created a genocide, just as Hitler did. However, what he did was still very wrong, and unforgivable, but you should not look down upon his genius for that.

I don't see what the point is to comparing genocide to genocide.
He killed over 12,000,000 people. Just think about that for a minute.
"genius", and "admire" should not ever me used to describe him.

Also, I'm not saying he is the only one who's ever done anything like this.
They were wrong as well.

ImCoolBeans
February 4th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Well, I do agree that i admire Hitler's intelligence, but obviously, do not honor or admire what he did in his life. He was a political and warfare genius; he knew what he wanted, and he found a way to achieve just that. And all of you who ignore his intelligence because he killed so many people, look at what our ancestors did to the native inhabitants of North America. We drove them from their homes, forced them to walk the Trail of Tears, (on which thousands died) and created a genocide, just as Hitler did. However, what he did was still very wrong, and unforgivable, but you should not look down upon his genius for that.

How was he a political and military genius? He was so thick skulled that he couldn't listen to any reasoning or take anybody's advice. He stuck to his guns and look where it got him, he shot himself so the Russians wouldn't come and get to him. That REALLY doesn't sound too genius to me.

trooneh
February 4th, 2012, 09:41 PM
How was he a political and military genius? He was so thick skulled that he couldn't listen to any reasoning or take anybody's advice. He stuck to his guns and look where it got him, he shot himself so the Russians wouldn't come and get to him. That REALLY doesn't sound too genius to me.

He had some political genius. He manipulated multiple parties in a way to ensure he would become chancellor and then fuhrer of Germany, not something everyone can do. Military genius though, no way. Not at all.

ImCoolBeans
February 4th, 2012, 09:43 PM
He had some political genius. He manipulated multiple parties in a way to ensure he would become chancellor and then fuhrer of Germany, not something everyone can do. Military genius though, no way. Not at all.

I'll agree with the political part, I was mostly talking about his military decision making - although I did mention politics.

Mortal Coil
February 4th, 2012, 09:45 PM
Even though I am jewish, I do have some admiration for Hitler's manipulative skills. But that pales when you consider that he killed some 12 million people and started a genocide which targeted not only Jews but also Gypsies, gays and people with disabilities.
He most definitely should not be "honored." He was twisted and hypocritical.

trooneh
February 4th, 2012, 09:46 PM
I'll agree with the political part, I was mostly talking about his military decision making - although I did mention politics.

I agree, he made many disastrous decisions, the most colossal of which were Operation Barbarossa and the declaration of war on the United States.

I don't see what the point is to comparing genocide to genocide.
He killed over 12,000,000 people. Just think about that for a minute.
"genius", and "admire" should not ever me used to describe him.

Also, I'm not saying he is the only one who's ever done anything like this.
They were wrong as well.

Don't let hatred blind you though. You can acknowledge Hitler's genius at manipulation and politics while still condemning and hating him.

StoppingTime
February 4th, 2012, 09:50 PM
Don't let hatred blind you though. You can acknowledge Hitler's genius at manipulation and politics while still condemning and hating him.

Yes, I can see why he could be considered "genius" at manipulating people to go his way, but in no way should he be honored.

trooneh
February 4th, 2012, 09:54 PM
Yes, I can see why he could be considered "genius" at manipulating people to go his way, but in no way should he be honored.

I'm not honoring him, I condemn him and everything he stood for. I just think that his ability to read people and adapt like a chameleon to his surroundings (being vulgar in certain company and completely polite in other company while making it seem natural) was impressive, though not unique, it's something most murderous sociopaths seem to be able to do (see Ted Bundy).
I look at it this way: If a family member of mine was murdered, I wouldn't look at the murderer as someone who was honourable because they had the stills to carry out the murder in a very efficient way.

It's not that Hitler was a murderer so much as he convinced so many millions of people who otherwise would be sane and logical to follow him on his insane and illogical policies that makes me think he can be recognized for political genius.

StoppingTime
February 4th, 2012, 09:57 PM
I'm not honoring him,

I was referring the the OP, Sean. srsly. :hmm:

But yes, had he been sane, obviously, he would have been looked at differently.

trooneh
February 4th, 2012, 10:01 PM
Yes, but let's say someone close you knew was killed in a murder for hire and the person who was the mastermind behind it convinced a few people to commit the crime... would you view that person as a genius for doing so? I'm not disagreeing but just a thought.

It depends. If the person convinced them without coercion or bribery, then yes, I think they would be a genius in a way. Remember, being a genius has nothing to do with how you view a person, but rather on their actual abilities in a certain area. You can use your genius for nefarious purposes, but you're still a genius. In other words, genius is objective but the way you view the actions is subjective.

trooneh
February 4th, 2012, 10:14 PM
True, it's just the way saying a mass murderer is a genius sounds is what gets me I guess.

I understand your reasoning, but I don't know what other word you could use to describe it...

Tenoramic
February 4th, 2012, 10:18 PM
I heard hilter had gay sex

trooneh
February 4th, 2012, 10:20 PM
I heard hilter had gay sex

How exactly is that contributing towards this topic? There is scant evidence of Hitler being homosexual -- in fact, there are suspicions that he had a sexual relationship with his niece, Geli Raubal. This is just a baseless accusation, there are many other things to bring up other than accusing Hitler of having gay sex.

Tenoramic
February 4th, 2012, 10:27 PM
I thought of it when I was reading this

antiabort
February 4th, 2012, 11:29 PM
He intrigues me. He was nuts. But very intelligent. I honor him for his intelligence and that he was strong mentally..

You constantly scream "RACIST" towards almost everything yet you like hitler? You confuse me.

kenoloor
February 5th, 2012, 02:25 AM
He was an incredible orator. I heard his people skills could have been improved though.

Genghis Khan
February 5th, 2012, 06:54 AM
I heard hilter had gay sex

Best post in this thread.

But yeah, Hitler wasn't really a genius, from my perspective at least. He was intelligent in the way he went about certain things but at the end of it he fucked up pretty bad. I'm not saying you can't make a case for him being a genius but I just don't see him as the quintessential genius.

Christheman
February 5th, 2012, 08:41 AM
Hitler is not a good person... at all however you should notice and observe his intelligence but not honor him

Mtc 10
February 5th, 2012, 09:09 AM
I don't care how smart he was, I can't wrap my head around the fact you "honor" someone who killed about 12,000,000 people.

Lots of people have done bad and it's usually because of their intelligence that they were able to get away with it. You have to be pretty cunning to kill so many people without getting killed yourself.

I don't know why you honer him. That is completely lost on me, why would you honor someone who like said above killed millions of innocent people, made them work in harsh conditions, made them afraid to live. It's just not right. Yes he may have been clever and mentally strong but cumon can you not find someone who actually put that to good use instead of using it for evil?



I honor him not for what he did but his intellligence level. And how he was able to manipulate all those people! Is just amazing. The killing part another story! Have you heard that man speak! Even if i dont understand German he spoke with passion, charisma, force and the love of his topic! It was AWESOME! And Joseph Stalin also killed many. but i dont think he was intelligent at all. Just crazy

Brookie Ugene Wagner
February 5th, 2012, 10:14 AM
That doesn't change what he did, he isn't an honorable person he killed people out of spite, and that's what he should be remembered for.

ImCoolBeans
February 5th, 2012, 10:50 AM
I honor him not for what he did but his intellligence level. And how he was able to manipulate all those people! Is just amazing. The killing part another story! Have you heard that man speak! Even if i dont understand German he spoke with passion, charisma, force and the love of his topic! It was AWESOME! And Joseph Stalin also killed many. but i dont think he was intelligent at all. Just crazy

Being extremely manipulative isn't exactly a good trait. It's usually associated with crazy people. I don't know - I just can't respect that.

Brookie Ugene Wagner
February 5th, 2012, 12:15 PM
He might have been smart, but he used his knowledge to do harm to this world, and get what he wants. He was manipulative, a murderer, and a dictator....all of those traits aren't exactly "good" traits

Genghis Khan
February 5th, 2012, 12:33 PM
He might have been smart, but he used his knowledge to do harm to this world, and get what he wants. He was manipulative, a murderer, and a dictator....all of those traits aren't exactly "good" traits

We're talking intelligence, not moral compass.

Brookie Ugene Wagner
February 5th, 2012, 12:40 PM
I know you are talking about intelligence, and his intelligence was used for harm, and even though he was extremely smart he should be remembered as someone who killed millions of people.

rockNroll
February 5th, 2012, 12:47 PM
He was very intelligent and good at manipulating people.... But absolutely batshit crazy.

Magus
February 5th, 2012, 12:51 PM
He was a good leader, but two-third of his ideologies are flawed.

Of course he was intelligent, but just a bit deluded.

Brookie Ugene Wagner
February 5th, 2012, 01:42 PM
exactly^^ and manipulating people isn't a great trait to have...

ryan2000
February 5th, 2012, 10:27 PM
A lot of people are saying that Hitler was not intelligent in the ways of warfare, but that is completely incorrect. Sure, he made some errors that did cost him, but he managed to conquer MOST OF EUROPE. One country, fighting against an entire continent, and he was nearly successful. The one reason we were able to get the high ground in the D-Day Normandy invasion was because we managed to feed him false intelligence stating that the attack would be elsewhere, so he built his defenses there, instead of Normandy. If this plan had failed, we could have lost the war. However, even if he managed to defeat us in Europe, taking over the rest of the globe would be a different story. If he would have managed to take us over from across the seas, we will never know, nor do I care to find out. In conclusion: Hitler was freakin' batshit bonkers, but had he not have been as insane as he was, he would be honored for his leadership abilities, which he no doubt had.

Texas warrior
February 7th, 2012, 01:34 PM
uhh i mean its nice to note him for intelligence but when you say Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, Barack obama, Jesus Christ, and Adolf Hitler, you can see which one doesnt fit i mean he was smart and all but then again he killed millions because they werent his preference.

Two names don't fit here. Obama and Hitler. Now I can respect some one that is Evil, but honor someone that is Evil. I will save my time honoring people like George Washington, Robert E. Lee, Martin Luther King Jr., "Stone Wall" Jackson. these are people that deserve are respect, Not Hitler.

shadowhunter320
February 7th, 2012, 01:44 PM
Hitler was awesome, and i worship him. lol! jk jk! i think the total opposite

wow dude, who ever gave me neg rep for this. was that really necessary? come on dude!

thank you all 3 of the people who gave me neg rep for this. you guys are awesome(sarcastic). seriously, this is ridiculous. there are things that you could actually do besides take things to seriously

hey guys, sorry for this. i thought about this, it really wasnt cool for me to even joke about. sorry.

Anselmo
February 7th, 2012, 02:58 PM
He intrigues me. He was nuts. But very intelligent. I honor him for his intelligence and that he was strong mentally..

I think exactly the same. Once he said "Is not truth that matters but victory"...this is the most truthful quote i have ever heard. I can apply it for most stuff i do

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 01:19 AM
I personally agree with the OP. I look as hitler as a form of a rolemodel. but to ruley examine Hitler you got to DEFINE YOUR TERMS.

what does EVIL mean?
what does INSANE mean?
by WHO'S standards were his beliefs wrong?
what is the definition of FLAWED and by who's MORALS?

once these, and a few others, have been answered than we can truley examine the type of person Hitler is. Alot of the people are not using Justifiable proof (proof without fallacies). so point being this argument is not worth arguing because your premises is not stated with justifiable proof.

kenoloor
February 11th, 2012, 01:31 AM
so point being this argument is not worth arguing because your premises is not stated with justifiable proof.

If it weren't worth arguing, you wouldn't have posted here.

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 01:38 AM
i still would have posted that hitler is one of my rolemodels

Desuetude
February 11th, 2012, 06:04 AM
i still would have posted that hitler is one of my rolemodels

Well tbh i think it's sick that you call someone who killed 11 million innocent people and started a world war because he wanted a superior race that he himself could not have been part of a "role model".
His beliefs WERE wrong because it is not anyones decision to decide who lives and dies let alone the decision of one man. Actually most people wouldn't be here if hitler hadnt lost the war i know for a fact that i wouldnt be living in england right now seeing as im asian.
I dont need proof to know that i hate that man for what he did to so many familys when he had no valid reasons at all.
I dont know how he could be a role model?

Genghis Khan
February 11th, 2012, 07:22 AM
by WHO'S standards were his beliefs wrong?

Society. By society's standards his beliefs are immoral. These are the standards which we go by to make moral decisions.

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 11:09 AM
-but im not in the 40's
- see your viewing his actions from one point of view. societies, which society?

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 11:29 AM
you see thats the thing. Icant imagine how that feels. I probrably never will experience or be able too imagine it. and like i said on the other hyphen, views. im viewing it from hitlers views. why? because everyone views it from the jews, gypsy's, ect. but never get around to seeing his views. because htey cant get over the fact that their dead. Infact. everyone benifited from the holocaoust, of course not those who died or their families

Genghis Khan
February 11th, 2012, 12:06 PM
everyone benifited from the holocaoust

Really? How?

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 01:12 PM
with those millions of deaths killed millions of family trees which lowered the population on earth. it lowered the people competing for jobs, how many mouths in the world are gonna be fed. how many people unemployed their is. a whole lot of aspects that you have to view from a conssequentialist point of view

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 01:17 PM
Yes.

Desuetude
February 11th, 2012, 01:24 PM
with those millions of deaths killed millions of family trees which lowered the population on earth. it lowered the people competing for jobs, how many mouths in the world are gonna be fed. how many people unemployed their is. a whole lot of aspects that you have to view from a conssequentialist point of view

That's fucking bull shit. There are still people starving, being made redundant, living on the streets. What you gonna do. Kill more people?

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 01:26 PM
i didnt say it eliminated those things as homless people or starving people but it reduced it.
and if we did eliminate those people then there would be none of that now would their?

Desuetude
February 11th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Ok so basically what you're saying is it's ok to kill people because in a few years other people will have better jobs and will be overall happier?
And tbh yes there would

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 01:33 PM
side note * i dont know what tbh means*

did I say that? No.

Genghis Khan
February 11th, 2012, 01:34 PM
i didnt say it eliminated those things as homless people or starving people but it reduced it.
and if we did eliminate those people then there would be none of that now would their?

I can hardly consider that method honourable, putting the problem of morality aside, eliminating a certain race of people to lower the poverty line is inapplicable in this day and age, so pretty futile.

Desuetude
February 11th, 2012, 01:38 PM
side note * i dont know what tbh means*

did I say that? No.

Well the fact that you said it was better for the world backs me up on that one.
Nd tbh means to be honest

Marky
February 11th, 2012, 01:48 PM
actually no its doesnt back you up i said it benifited us today, from the act that was created,

Genghis Khan
February 11th, 2012, 01:52 PM
actually no its doesnt back you up i said it benifited us today, from the act that was created,

No it doesn't. To say that millions of people who were systematically murdered for the wrong reasons lowered the general population of the earth and benefited us is fallacious.

trooneh
February 11th, 2012, 02:27 PM
actually no its doesnt back you up i said it benifited us today, from the act that was created,

The destruction of several rich cultures, and the murders of 12 million people, benefited us how? Are you saying that 12 million people make a dent in the overpopulation of the Earth, when humans are currently numbering over 7 billion? That's preposterous. It sounds like you're suggesting mass murder as a way to solve the problems of hunger and homelessness. This is not the answer.

Desuetude
February 11th, 2012, 02:41 PM
actually no its doesnt back you up i said it benifited us today, from the act that was created,

I think it's pathetic that you see it like this. Like Rawal and Sean have said in no way has it benefited us today, for the grief it caused all over the word it was definitely not worth it. And art that was created?! You have got to be joking me?

The Time Theif
February 11th, 2012, 02:50 PM
Well i would say which Hitler ur using the Hitler before WW2 or during WW2?

trooneh
February 11th, 2012, 02:52 PM
Well i would say which Hitler ur using the Hitler before WW2 or during WW2?

The Hitler before WW2 was focused solely on eventually going to war, while the Hitler during the War was focused simply on continuing the war until global conquest or complete catastrophe. What's the major difference?

kenoloor
February 11th, 2012, 07:06 PM
If killing people is beneficial to the planet as a whole, does that mean that not killing people would be a disservice to humanity?

Can'tHelpIt
February 11th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Actually he was really stupid he changed his generals plans and thats why he was surrounded and ended up killing himself

And he deserves no honor whatsoeer are you crazy

Marky
February 12th, 2012, 11:44 AM
i said what i had to say. all i recomend is for you to try to view this topic from all the perspectives as possible and not only the one that you are acustomed too. put your morals aside and view it from a non bias point of view.

thank you

TeddyBearRock
February 12th, 2012, 12:05 PM
Hilter must have be a pretty good polition to get The whole of germany to support him

Breakeven
February 12th, 2012, 12:09 PM
i sort of agree

Desuetude
February 12th, 2012, 12:18 PM
i said what i had to say. all i recomend is for you to try to view this topic from all the perspectives as possible and not only the one that you are acustomed too. put your morals aside and view it from a non bias point of view.

thank you

Even viewing it from a non bias point of view killing a race because one person doesnt like them is not a valid reason reason.
Thats why no one agree's with you and i dont think you will get many if any that do.

TeddyBearRock
February 12th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Lets Face It, Hilter Is One Of The Worst People In The World. The Things He Did Was Terrable And If It Was My Choice I Would Have Him Killed The Same way He Killed Those Who Died, So That He Would Feel The Pain That He Caused Millions Of People. I Have No Idea Why Millions Of People Suported Him, And They Too Should Die The Same Why As They Are As Evil As Him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ImCoolBeans
February 12th, 2012, 04:14 PM
And They Too Should Die The Same Why As They Are As Evil As Him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats extremely rash of you to say, and completely uncalled for. I don't believe that you should with death upon people, especially because of their views and beliefs - no matter what your views and beliefs are. In other words, thats fucked up, man.

TeddyBearRock
February 12th, 2012, 04:21 PM
thats one way of putting it, yer

huginnmuninn
February 13th, 2012, 05:16 PM
why do people always use hitler its not like he was the only one to ever start a genocide. the next time someone wants to make something like this can we use someone else just so that we dont go repeating ourselves too much?

and now for something completely different

on topic he was in the right place at the right time and was charismatic and smart enough to take over germany. i respect him for that think hes an asshole but i respect him.

ImCoolBeans
February 13th, 2012, 05:24 PM
why do people always use hitler its not like he was the only one to ever start a genocide. the next time someone wants to make something like this can we use someone else just so that we dont go repeating ourselves too much?

and now for something completely different

on topic he was in the right place at the right time and was charismatic and smart enough to take over germany. i respect him for that think hes an asshole but i respect him.

I'm sorry but I don't give a fuck if he's the only person who's started a genocide. If you start a genocide you have a special place reserved for you in the deepest most horrible confines of hell.

trooneh
February 13th, 2012, 05:31 PM
why do people always use hitler its not like he was the only one to ever start a genocide. the next time someone wants to make something like this can we use someone else just so that we dont go repeating ourselves too much?

and now for something completely different

on topic he was in the right place at the right time and was charismatic and smart enough to take over germany. i respect him for that think hes an asshole but i respect him.

People single out Hitler and the Nazis for the way they made killing into a science, not because they were the only perpetrators of a genocide in history, although the Holocaust was the most deadly of all.

Jupiter
February 13th, 2012, 05:44 PM
he was a great man. we all know this. he also loved children.

but in real life, my head hurts after reading this.

Desuetude
February 13th, 2012, 06:05 PM
he was a great man. we all know this. he also loved children.

but in real life, my head hurts after reading this.

O.o I didn't know he was a great man. What I do know is that he was a cold blooded killer that didn't care about any pain he caused to anyone. Ha he loved children, that made me laugh.

And yes it seems some people respect him for the things he did therefore it has turned into an argument trying to persuade people that what he did was Not right and he was not a good man. Hmm it does hurt your head though

TeddyBearRock
February 13th, 2012, 06:52 PM
The only people that loved him were the nazi

Can'tHelpIt
February 13th, 2012, 07:02 PM
he was a great man. we all know this. he also loved children.

but in real life, my head hurts after reading this.

The only children he "loved" were Aryen who were christian
seriously not sure if this true but one of my techers told the used babys as skeet

He was a horrible person

Rage of the Menace
February 14th, 2012, 03:56 AM
I love these, well ok. Let's begin with his Biography, Mein Kampf.

Badly written, horrible grammar, unbelievably boring but guess what? He made a system that could efficiently run the world.

By indoctrinating the populace, he creates a race of people with power, and power in the hands of people gives them the urge and the ability to do things they could never and would have never done. By wiping out most of the worlds population, he would have created a pure race, hence, no room for imposters. When these people are bieng led by one leader, there is no turning back.

Fascism is brutally efficient, and i dare say, more efficient than our so called 'democracy' we have running. It allows for the people to be indoctrinated and make dissent extremely minimal, and when it is stirred, the people, the majority will force them to repent because of the minds of these people who are now, not men, but zombies. Metaphorically speaking.

If you want to rule the world? You do it the way Hitler did. I respect him as a person and as a leader, and i think Germany is denying him his right as one of the greatest political personalities not of the 20th century, but in history.

I have read the Mein Kampf, and let me tell you. This mans view of propaganda is Genius in its own right.

Don't mistake me for a Nazi. I do not like Hitler, i just respect him, and you need to acknowledge his achievements. (taking Germany out of the great depression in one year, took over 10 in america.)

Paranoid, Power-Hungry, Narcissist, Genius.