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Sith Lord 13
January 25th, 2012, 12:45 AM
A lesbian couple in California who say their 11-year-old son Tommy who wants to be a girl named Tammy are giving their child hormone blockers that delay the onset of puberty -- so that he can have more time that he can have more time to decide if he wants to change his gender.
The couple’s supporters say the Hormone Blocking Therapy has only minor side effects and is appropriate for a child who is unsure of his gender. "This is definitely a changing landscape for transgender youth," said Joel Baum, director of education and training for Gender Spectrum, a California-based non-profit group. "This is about giving kids and their families the opportunity to make the right decision."
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/transgender/2011/10/17/male-or-female-boy-given-drugs-so-he-can-pick-gender#ixzz1kRiD0deA
http://nation.foxnews.com/transgender/2011/10/17/male-or-female-boy-given-drugs-so-he-can-pick-gender
I approve. This is amazing.
kenoloor
January 25th, 2012, 09:46 AM
This fucking rocks. I was actually at a Gender Spectrum (mentioned in the article) conference last July/August and spoke briefly with Joel. I'm surprised Fox covered this...
Spook
January 25th, 2012, 09:55 AM
I think that this is a good change- it would be a problem if a youth got a gender transformation and decided that's not what he/she wanted...
UnknownError
January 25th, 2012, 12:35 PM
It shouldn't be something that is blocked though. D:
I just find that wrong. It's blocking a natural process.
(nb4 hurr, Im not against Transgender people for the record.)
kenoloor
January 25th, 2012, 01:17 PM
It shouldn't be something that is blocked though. D:
I just find that wrong. It's blocking a natural process.
(nb4 hurr, Im not against Transgender people for the record.)
If you look at it like that, the entire process of transitioning (hormones, etc.) is fucking with a "natural process."
UnknownError
January 25th, 2012, 01:21 PM
Still, he's only eleven. Don't most people discover their true sexuality during puberty anyway? Idk it just seems like he's too young imo.
kenoloor
January 25th, 2012, 01:25 PM
Still, he's only eleven. Don't most people discover their true sexuality during puberty anyway? Idk it just seems like he's too young imo.
Just to clarify, sexuality =/= gender. Sure, some people may become more aware of their gender identity during puberty, but I doubt the parents would consent to the hormone blockers if they or the child didn't have some sort of idea or suspicion that something wasn't aligning "correctly."
How did you know that you were a boy? Did you realize that when you hit puberty?
dead
January 25th, 2012, 02:13 PM
Still, he's only eleven. Don't most people discover their true sexuality during puberty anyway? Idk it just seems like he's too young imo.
First off I'm ignoring everything except the last sentence since it has already been addressed. Second thing is the whole point of hormone blockers is to allow the kid more time to figure out.
Stronger
January 25th, 2012, 03:37 PM
I think this is an interesting thing, if the boy believes he may not be one than the parents made a good
ShatteredWings
January 25th, 2012, 05:04 PM
It shouldn't be something that is blocked though. D:
I just find that wrong. It's blocking a natural process.
(nb4 hurr, Im not against Transgender people for the record.)
Then transgender people shouldn't transition?
Why should she have to live in HELL for the next 10 years?
I think this is an interesting thing, if the boy believes he may not be one than the parents made a good
..She.
Stronger
January 25th, 2012, 05:08 PM
..She.
But she/he didn't decide that yet? Which is why the parents are doing this
ShatteredWings
January 25th, 2012, 05:11 PM
The article is from FOX, i'm impressed it's worded as well as it is. She clearly identifies as a girl, very few people id as trans* then go back on it later.
The "to decide" is fox's slant on transgenderism.
The hormone blockers are because (I believe) it's not medical advisable for children her age on HRT.
And, there's a lot of... Roadblocks to transition, to prevent people from suing.
If the child is identifying as a girl, you call her a girl.
That's basic respect.
Stronger
January 25th, 2012, 05:14 PM
The article is from FOX, i'm impressed it's worded as well as it is. She clearly identifies as a girl, very few people id as trans* then go back on it later.
The "to decide" is fox's slant on transgenderism.
The hormone blockers are because (I believe) it's not medical advisable for children her age on HRT.
And, there's a lot of... Roadblocks to transition, to prevent people from suing.
If the child is identifying as a girl, you call her a girl.
That's basic respect.
Ahh, my mistake then
dead
January 26th, 2012, 01:13 PM
The article is from FOX, i'm impressed it's worded as well as it is. She clearly identifies as a girl, very few people id as trans* then go back on it later.
The "to decide" is fox's slant on transgenderism.
The hormone blockers are because (I believe) it's not medical advisable for children her age on HRT.
And, there's a lot of... Roadblocks to transition, to prevent people from suing.
If the child is identifying as a girl, you call her a girl.
That's basic respect.
I find it a bit out of place for FOX. I'm glad that it's there though. Without the usual shit attached to it.
ShatteredWings
January 26th, 2012, 03:10 PM
Yeah, really. As far as fox goes this is one of their most libral articles.
Was mostly pointing out to tattooboy why calling her a he is wrong, and the article implied that she's still a he b/c of fox's slant is still there.
Infidelitas
January 26th, 2012, 05:58 PM
I actually think that people should have a choice on what to do with their bodies, even at that young age, because, ultimately, they have to live with their bodies, and they shouldn't have to live their life in way where they hate themselves for the way they are.
Sith Lord 13
January 27th, 2012, 12:56 PM
Then transgender people shouldn't transition?
Why should she have to live in HELL for the next 10 years?
Agreed.
..She.
*Xe
Xe could be female, or gender questioning. Either way, he is inappropriate.
ShatteredWings
January 27th, 2012, 01:46 PM
*Xe
Xe could be female, or gender questioning. Either way, he is inappropriate.
fair enough
Though that's expecting waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too much, even from the most liberal media.
kenoloor
January 27th, 2012, 02:34 PM
I believe he noticed when he hit pissing age that he was indeed a boy. Aka when he could use the toilet.
I doubt it. Gender (identity) is separate from sex (anatomy).
dead
January 27th, 2012, 06:30 PM
I doubt it. Gender (identity) is separate from sex (anatomy).
You're going to confuse him with all that logic.
kenoloor
January 27th, 2012, 06:32 PM
You're going to confuse him with all that logic.
Logic is overrated anyway.
butty_92
February 2nd, 2012, 11:58 AM
I think it's wrong that someone as young as that can be allowed to decide their gender.
kenoloor
February 2nd, 2012, 02:30 PM
I think it's wrong that someone as young as that can be allowed to decide their gender.
They're not "deciding their gender." Gender, meaning your identity in regards to masculinity and femininity, is an inborn and innate quality. There's no decision-making involved as far as identity goes.
They're taking their time to make an informed decision regarding puberty and whether or not they want to go through cross-hormone therapy.
How old were you when you realized you were the gender that you are?
Genghis Khan
February 2nd, 2012, 04:49 PM
How old were you when you realized you were the gender that you are?
Just yesterday. Bam. Hit me like a truck. Best sex I ever had.
Celeste
February 2nd, 2012, 05:07 PM
How old were you when you realized you were the gender that you are?
On 12th January 2012, Wen i joins Vt and realizedz u exist. I is 17.
joeyjorulz
February 2nd, 2012, 08:14 PM
Imagine this boy (current gender) going thru puberty eg: masculation, body hair, bigger penis & testicals, feet, muscles etc. Why not block the hormones to delay it?
When the right time comes the Dr can take him off blockers and prescribe HRT to make him appear female eg: breasts, skin, body shape (hips) etc. Of course he will need to go for surgery to appear female down there.
dead
February 2nd, 2012, 08:46 PM
They're not "deciding their gender." Gender, meaning your identity in regards to masculinity and femininity, is an inborn and innate quality. There's no decision-making involved as far as identity goes.
They're taking their time to make an informed decision regarding puberty and whether or not they want to go through cross-hormone therapy.
How old were you when you realized you were the gender that you are?
It's not directly in regards to masculinity and femininity.
kenoloor
February 2nd, 2012, 09:29 PM
It's not directly in regards to masculinity and femininity.
I was referring to the spectrum that ranges from extreme masculinity to extreme femininity.
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