Marines urinate on taliban bodies.

[green]

The U.S. Marine Corps has launched an investigation into a video that purports to show American Marines urinating on the dead bodies of Taliban members.

The video, posted on YouTube, shows four Marines peeing on three dead bodies lying in the dust in front of them. In the 40-second film, the soldiers are laughing, and one of the Marines jokes, "Have a great day buddy." A second man is heard saying, "Golden, like a shower."

The men in the video are not identified. A caption on YouTube says the men are part of the "Scout Sniper Team 4 with 3rd battalion 2nd marines out of camp lejeune." A senior Marine Corps official told CNN that the men are wearing helmets typical for the Marine corps sniper teams and that their rifles are 30-caliber sniper rifles.

The video also has been brought to the attention of the Marine Corps headquarters.

"While we have not yet verified the origin or authenticity of this video, the actions portrayed are not consistent with our core values and are not indicative of the character of the Marines in our Corps," ABC quotes an official statement. "This matter will be fully investigated."

"Regardless of the circumstances or who is in the video, this is egregious, disgusting behavior," Department of Defense spokesman Capt. John Kirby told CNN. "It's hideous. It turned my stomach."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/afghanistan-marines-urinating-video_n_1200324.html?ref=world

So this is fucked up, good job America.

[Abyssal Echo]

you know what I am so tired of this B S... its Ok for them to shot, blow up and behead our guys.....its like no one cares.

the G I's try and get a little relief and the world has a cow


WHAT EVER.....

maybe next time the G I's should put them in a chipper scredder while they interigate them I guess that would be a big splash on the news too !

If I remember corectly the saying goes like this " all is fair in love and war "

I almost forgot as Americans WE help them WE get the BILL, the Bodies, and the wounded. they get the equipment and the country we leave behind.
some how that does not seem right to me....but who am I...a nobody just a future tax payer.

[embers]

I almost forgot as Americans WE help them WE get the BILL, the Bodies, and the wounded. they get the equipment and the country we leave behind.
some how that does not seem right to me....but who am I...a nobody just a future tax payer.

are you serious? Americans have little to no business in Afghanistan in the first place, and are arguably causing more damage than they are bringing good to that country.

[Iris]

So this is fucked up, good job America.

Get the fuck over yourself. A few marines doing something stupid means nothing further than the act itself. They do not represent America at all.

[Azunite]

If I remember corectly the saying goes like this " all is fair in love and war "

If we assume you have a brother who was a US Marine and died in combat, you wouldn't mind Taliban soldiers pissing on his body?

[green]

the problem is these sort of incidents have been fairly common in iraq and afghanistan, for a democracy and peace loving country, fighting for "democracy". Due to america's large involvement in conflicts all over the world, the US military does represent the USA.

[dark_soul777]

*Stop reading now unless you wish to risk offense*

I honestly see no reason for Americans *or any other foreign countries* to be in the middle east at all, more innocents have been killed in the "war on terror", than would have if all was left alone. It may as well be called the "War for oil and Americas continued world domination".
This kind of act is typical, low level soldiers who probably don't even understand the reasons behind them being there in the first place, doing something stupid that any human being with a conscience wouldn't be able to do. It's really just glorified murder.

Of course I don't support the Taliban, what they're doing is wrong but America interfering has made everything so much worse than it would have otherwise been.

Sorry for the rant, but I'm in a shitty mood :/

[Sacraficialsteak]

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[Magus]

Guns [x]
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A Reason [ ]Do you know how much a U.S carrier costs a day? Yeah, that's where your taxes go.

Those guys kinda reminds me of that Mustache guy.


Get the fuck over yourself. A few marines doing something stupid means nothing further than the act itself. They do not represent America at all.
Oh yes they do. They represent the glorious, mighty army of the U.S.A. Whether you like it or not.

Abu Ghraib anyone?

[Genghis Khan]

Oh yes they do. They represent the glorious, mighty army of the U.S.A. Whether you like it or not.

Abu Ghraib anyone?

Abu Ghraib torture! Wallah fuck Amreeka. Their injustice and violent discrimination has brought nothing but cataclysm in the Middle East and the world. Ya allah save us from these tyrants.

In all seriousness, this war is on a road to nowhere. This entire involvement in the Middle East is just a picture of how much America and the UK to some extent loves getting itself involved in literally everything.

[green]

if anything people should be there as a peace keeping force. Australia works more as a peace keeper and mentor. they help train the afghan army so that the government of afghanistan can govern as they see fit. Australia and other countries that dont have as big of a part in the war are doing things like helping build schools and offering health care to civillians. That is what everyone should be doing. America enforcing their position of a "super power" on another country doesnt work.

[Slytherin_Prince]

This is clearly an atrocity and should never have happened. An army that represents its homeland should uphold its standard at -all- times.
Still, I am in favour of the war in terror, and I always will be. This atrocity was horrible, of course, but it is no reason to deduct that the war on terror always leads to situations like these. I believe the eventual goal is still very valid, though I do sincerely hope that these men were punished appropriately for their actions.

Most sincerely,
Robert.

[Genghis Khan]

Still, I am in favour of the war in terror, and I always will be.

All of my why.

[Abyssal Echo]

are you serious? Americans have little to no business in Afghanistan in the first place, and are arguably causing more damage than they are bringing good to that country.

So.....why are we there ???? what good has come from us being there ???

Nothing in my opinion. But, that is just my opinion

[embers]

So.....why are we there ???? what good has come from us being there ???

Nothing in my opinion. But, that is just my opinion

Then stop supporting a bullshit war.

[Peace God]

This is clearly an atrocity and should never have happened. An army that represents its homeland should uphold its standard at -all- times.
Still, I am in favour of the war in terror, and I always will be. This atrocity was horrible, of course, but it is no reason to deduct that the war on terror always leads to situations like these. I believe the eventual goal is still very valid, though I do sincerely hope that these men were punished appropriately for their actions.

Most sincerely,
Robert.
I feel almost the complete opposite lol, pissing all over someone is upholding our military's standards quite well if you ask me. The War on "Terror" is the true atrocity here, this event really isn't that shocking or disgusting to me. Sure it's not the classiest thing to do but if you think it's okay to shoot the guy in the face, is it really that much of an atrocity that he was pissed on afterwards? Oh and wars always lead to situations like this and it will continue to happen although I actually wouldn't be surprised if events like this have happened less in this war than in most other wars historically, hell in certain times wounded enemies were literally raped on the battlefield.

[james97perth]

right this video is fine were all human these soldiers want the dead commrades to be avenged this is there way of doing it .in my opinion since the end of ww2 the usa has jumped into many pointless conflict's fighting for democracy ,the us is a high and mighy force but makes mistakes but afghanistan and most middle eastern wars are not piontless ,one date 9/11 the taliban wanted the war and us army should crush the islamic extremist movements ,al qeuda has no tollerance .but other conflict libya and vietnamm were idiotic us goverment has to except you cant impose democracy on every nation you can, let it get there threw decades of communism or autocracy then its people will not resist us soldiers and us cant afford to plunge into every potential war look at its debt .

[Wesley1369]

with what they go through during war, the soldiers have earned the right to do that, its ok for those iraqis to shoot at the soldiers i say who cares, let em do what they want theyve earned it

[Anselmo]

with what they go through during war, the soldiers have earned the right to do that, its ok for those iraqis to shoot at the soldiers i say who cares, let em do what they want theyve earned it

So, if someone earns that right it's ok to piss on you?

[Scoob]

with what they go through during war, the soldiers have earned the right to do that, its ok for those iraqis to shoot at the soldiers i say who cares, let em do what they want theyve earned it

You are joking right? I am not in favor of the Taliban regime in any way but I also do not support the disrespect and desecration of a human body. That person was someones brother, father, son, uncle, etc. The list goes on. We already extinguished their life, why humiliate their corpse? This just feeds the fire in the Middle East as a meaning of coercion for people to join the Taliban.

And I think that if you have any family in the military and they are shot and killed that the Taliban should piss on them. That's their right, right? They've earned that right? That's your way of thinking - imagine if everyone thought like that. No one deserves to be humiliated in death while fighting for a cause they believe in - even if it is one we disagree with. Your system of thinking is patriotic to the point of retardation. Look from other viewpoints than the one you've been told.

The war in the Middle East is wrong, these people are fighting to be left alone. 9/11 was a tragedy but we have lost more innocent lives in this pointless war than 9/11 could have ever dreamed of. The 'mastermind' who started the war (Osama) is dead. America has no reason left to be there. We are now trying to force a system of Democracy onto an unwilling people. America needs to learn that not everyone is in favor of becoming it's clone. That some nations with to be their own nation, with their own government, and without the constant threat of GI's killing their families and pissing on their remains.

These people are disgraces to America, whether they are marines or not it doesn't change what they really are once you look past that uniform. Trash.

[huginnmuninn]

i personally hate the war. if we had a reason to be over there then it would be different but we dont. i think the marines who did this should be court martialed and given a dishonorable discharge. some people may think that a few people dont represent america but they do and this disgusts me. i dont want any american soldiers to die but this is ridiculous. "The few, The Proud, the Marines"? bull shit start being proud when you deserve it.

[james97perth]

i personally hate the war. if we had a reason to be over there then it would be different but we dont. i think the marines who did this should be court martialed and given a dishonorable discharge. some people may think that a few people dont represent america but they do and this disgusts me. i dont want any american soldiers to die but this is ridiculous. "The few, The Proud, the Marines"? bull shit start being proud when you deserve it.

you do have a reason 9/11,7/7 these dates are when taliban bombers attacked new york and london killing excess of 5000 people .

[Scoob]

you do have a reason 9/11,7/7 these dates are when taliban bombers attacked new york and london killing excess of 5000 people .

Nifty. So in return we kill tens of thousands more? Innocent peoples with nothing to do even remotely with those incidents are fair game to be killed? That's the most idiotic thinking I've ever heard of. Paying innocent blood with the blood of innocents is a sick form of reprisal. More people have died in this pointless war than those two terrorist bombings could have ever dreamed of. You're just sending more American's to their death and killing more innocent Muslims as you go. There are entire Middle Eastern towns that are wiped out by remote controlled explosive devices because of suspicion of a possible member of Al Qaeda lodging there. POSSIBLE being the key word. How is it right to claim that those innocents in those cities were only mere 'collateral damage'? It's gone from us fighting a war on terror to instilling terror in the innocents of the Middle East.

[Wesley1369]

listen they are dead they wont mind. and its not like those dead people werent trying to kill them. good riddance we'll see ya.
and when you gotta go, you gotta go

[Magus]

listen they are dead they wont mind. and its not like those iraqis werent trying to kill them. good riddance we'll see ya.
and when you gotta go, you gotta go

Iraqis? Boy, do you know Afghanistan?

[Wesley1369]

wow a mistake my bad, relax some

[Sugaree]

listen they are dead they wont mind. and its not like those dead people werent trying to kill them. good riddance we'll see ya.
and when you gotta go, you gotta go

So if someone decided to piss on, say, one of your parents' dead bodies, you'd support it?

[green]

you do have a reason 9/11,7/7 these dates are when taliban bombers attacked new york and london killing excess of 5000 people .

are you fucking retarded?! the taliban didnt fucking attack new york, al qeada did. and even than using the excuse of a group of people not representing their country attacking you as an excuse to invade a fucking country is not reasonable.

[Anselmo]

So if someone decided to piss on, say, one of your parents' dead bodies, you'd support it?

apparently he would. And he wouldn't care if that happened, just like he said...

i say who cares, let em do what they want theyve earned it

[Wakesetter03]

People are missing out on the words "Taliban supporters".

I'd urinate on the bastards as well.

These are, after all, people that believe that through suffering they will go to heaven and be rewarded for mass murder!

I hope their urine stained souls, should they find any virgins, find a bunch of men who look like Eddie Murphy in "Big Mommas House"

They're religion never specified that the virgins would be nice. Or female.

[Genghis Khan]

The U.S army has a knack for doing stupid things and having the world find out and make a big deal about it. I personally didn't give a shit when I read this. I think nearly the entirety of the Afghan population would support that (they are mostly anti-taliban).

[Unique Physique]

You know what they say, "war is hell" and all that. All kinds of fucked up things happen in war and conflict, not only do the combatants get killed, but civilians (men, women and children) get killed, raped, massacred, animals get killed, buildings are destroyed, economies are wrecked and so on.

This is repugnant, yes, but tbh there's so much worse than goes on out there, the only reason we don't bitch about it is because it's seldom reported. These US Marines are, rightly, going to get punished for their actions as they were thick enough to take pictures of it. It's like the case of that US Marine who picked up a puppy by the scruff of its neck and tossed it off a cliff back in 2008.

In an ideal world things like this wouldn't happen.. then again, in an ideal world, war wouldn't happen full stop. There's absolutely nothing honourable about it.

People are missing out on the words "Taliban supporters".

I'd urinate on the bastards as well.

These are, after all, people that believe that through suffering they will go to heaven and be rewarded for mass murder!

I hope their urine stained souls, should they find any virgins, find a bunch of men who look like Eddie Murphy in "Big Mommas House"

They're religion never specified that the virgins would be nice. Or female.
Er, it's not really as black and white as you like to think it is. Many Taliban footsoldiers are like the footsoldiers of any army/group.. they join up with the promise of a bit of pay, to fight off perceived invaders, some don't really have a choice as they've grown up knowing little else but war.

Before I'm accused, I don't condone any act or terrorism and I certainly don't like the Taliban's political/religious views, but I have to admit the Taliban and Afghanistan in generally has a fairly interesting and complicated history, for example many of the Taliban of today who are now fighting British/American soldiers in Afghanistan are the same Mujahideen resistance that fought off Soviet invaders in the 1980s.. and got backed by the West for doing so.

[antiabort]

This is nothing, in ancient times humans would keep scalps n shit as trophies... this is pussy compared to that.

[Magus]

This is nothing, in ancient times humans would keep scalps n shit as trophies... this is pussy compared to that.Scalping, it's at least less disgraceful and more honorable than desecrating dead bodies by pissing on them; people who were fighting for a cause and defending their lands from the enemy(from their pov), if they were insurgents at all.

[james97perth]

so al qeuda attacked new york and london many died since then many americans english and australians have died but your missing the big picture ,al qeuda is extremist muslim group .islam is not tollerent of other religions and its not first time innocent americans have died for hopeless cause ,vietnamn,korea,gulf war 1,gulf war 2 ,iraq . all fighting agianst the anto capitalst menace .i no way do i condome the war but its fighting agianst the taliban and al qeuda and extremist islamic sects they all despise western culture , protestentism and christianity .and could be planning other attacks on americas major cities

[Magus]

so al qeuda attacked new york and london many died since then many americans english and australians have died but your missing the big picture ,al qeuda is extremist muslim group .islam is not tollerent of other religions and its not first time innocent americans have died for hopeless cause ,vietnamn,korea,gulf war 1,gulf war 2 ,iraq . all fighting agianst the anto capitalst menace .i no way do i condome the war but its fighting agianst the taliban and al qeuda and extremist islamic sects they all despise western culture , protestentism and christianity .and could be planning other attacks on americas major citiesI was rolling on the floor laughing my ass off from reading what this little kid wrote.

[StoppingTime]

I was rolling on the floor laughing my ass off from reading what this little kid wrote.

It's an amazing piece of literature.

Anyway, of course they had absolutely no right to do that, no matter (just about), who it is.

[antiabort]

Scalping, it's at least less disgraceful and more honorable than desecrating dead bodies by pissing on them; people who were fighting for a cause and defending their lands from the enemy(from their pov), if they were insurgents at all.

Why does it even matter in the first place? it's a body, A husk, Nothing there. The person that inhabited it is gone, they can't see what you're doing.

[butty_92]

The behavior of the American soldiers is dispicable. The dead should be treated with dignity, irrespective of what they may have done and who they are. War crimes are a total disgrace, and I hope the guilty are punished severely.

[Sugaree]

The behavior of the American soldiers is dispicable. The dead should be treated with dignity, irrespective of what they may have done and who they are. War crimes are a total disgrace, and I hope the guilty are punished severely.

They'll probably get discharged dishonorably, pretty much a slap on the wrist because of who they are and where they were.

[Scoob]

Why does it even matter in the first place? it's a body, A husk, Nothing there. The person that inhabited it is gone, they can't see what you're doing.


Respect, honor. If you didn't have it for them in life, let them have it in death.

[Jupiter]

ew..

[james97perth]

innocent men and women are dieing but there one thing people should remember americans arent the only ones fighting in the midlle east , the british, the new zealanders, the dutch,the australians and small french and german units many of the young men of these countries (exluding britian)are fighting agianst al qeuda and dieing when there countries where not even hit by al qeuda insurgents and bombers and it shows americas almost imperial influence to pull other countries into what should have been a us/brittish affiar .ameica has been a super power for 70 years and little wars are there way of warning of other countries ,my brother fought in iraq with a anzac task force 3 years ago.my opinion is extremist muslim sects should be crushed whatever the cost because middle east is world war 3 wiating to happen .but iam biast my family is military family

[Unfortunate1]

YEAH! SEMPER FIDELIS! Man, what do you expect? A marine is meant to be pissed off. They don't feed you well, they train you past your limits, they give you little sleep, they mess with you constantly. The whole point of having marines is to have an All purpose expendable force that is SO PISSED OFF they want to blow the living crap out of every thing they see. The stress is the marine corps' weapon. If your pissed off, you wanna rip someones balls out, not feel sorry for them and hesitate to shoot them. This is what they want them to do! Shoot them and not feel sorry, but feel great! "This is revenge for all that I had to go through, all that I am enduring, and for blowing up my brethren and my best buddies!"

Semper Fidelis. Go Marine Snipers! I'll be one of you some day!

[Scoob]

1. Innocent Islamic people die by the dozens for a POSSIBLE Al Qaeda member being in the vicinity. they are not mere statistics. They are people that the U.S. eradicates due to SUSPICION. If you don't see how that is morally wrong then you are in dementia due to your patriotism.

2. No one should support Imperialism and you just willingly compared America to it. Are you insane? Definition of Imperialism: Imperialism, as defined by Dictionary of Human Geography, is "the creation and/or maintenance of an unequal economic, cultural, and territorial relationship, usually between states and often in the form of an empire, based on domination and subordination." So indirectly saying that our being there in order to more or less 'expand our territory and dominate the Middle Eastern peoples into submission' is a good thing? And that our influence has grown to coerce other nations into backing our futile and ultimately reprehensible war? Forgive me for thinking that this is NOT good..

3. "America has been a super power for 70 years and little wars are there way of warning of other countries." Are. You. Shitting. Me? That is the most idiotic viewpoint I've ever heard. You're saying that we should start large scale conflicts at random to show other countries that "Yea, we'll dismantle your government, employ our form of government and murder countless civilians - to make you an example for the rest of the world for ten plus years before we repeat this with another country." Honestly...

4. "my opinion is extremist muslim sects should be crushed whatever the cost because middle east is world war 3 wiating to happen." Yes, because we see how well that has done America for the last ten years right? There are extremists in EVERY religion. So long as religion exists there will always be religious extremists. Launching full-scale, ten year wars which drain the economy and rally the Middle Eastern people to fight against the Western peoples who murder dozens of innocents in this plight to end the wrong as if we're the world police is NOT the way to go about this. Why don't we go kill all the Christian extremists when we finish the Muslims - sounds like a great way to go about handling shit.

@Unfortunate1: Great. Glad to hear we train these people to become hate machines who are willing to slaughter civilians. Oh and even in regards to the Taliban - is it right? Is it right to piss on someones belief even in death? There is a thing called honor and respect. And from the way you talk - the Marines have degenerated into a bunch of thugs in respectable uniforms. I've met soldiers from Nam who would find this apprehensive.

Post below mine:

Yet there are countless more that fight against.

[Unfortunate1]

if anything people should be there as a peace keeping force. Australia works more as a peace keeper and mentor. they help train the afghan army so that the government of afghanistan can govern as they see fit. Australia and other countries that dont have as big of a part in the war are doing things like helping build schools and offering health care to civillians. That is what everyone should be doing. America enforcing their position of a "super power" on another country doesnt work.



You know that we train coalition forces and militia and their army too, right? we do the same thing in Iraq. Local police officers, or just locals themselves, can get training. Some also choose to fight with us.


@Unfortunate1: Great. Glad to hear we train these people to become hate machines who are willing to slaughter civilians. Oh and even in regards to the Taliban - is it right? Is it right to piss on someones belief even in death? There is a thing called honor and respect. And from the way you talk - the Marines have degenerated into a bunch of thugs in respectable uniforms. I've met soldiers from Nam who would find this apprehensive.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but other than slaughtering civilians, thats EXACTLY what they are. Killing machines. That's what their training turns them into. The conditions we put them in, on purpose, piss them off into a killing machine ready to tear into whatever they see fit. Those who make it can retain sanity, thats why so few get in, the ones who wouldn't and would go crazy are sifted out.

posts merged; do not double post, use the edit button next time -embers

[Scoob]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but other than slaughtering civilians, thats EXACTLY what they are. Killing machines. That's what their training turns them into. The conditions we put them in, on purpose, piss them off into a killing machine ready to tear into whatever they see fit. Those who make it can retain sanity, thats why so few get in, the ones who wouldn't and would go crazy are sifted out.

There's a difference between being trained to kill a specific target and to become a thug who kills everything in sight without conscious. There's a difference between a man who believes he is protecting his country and one who slaughters soullessly. There's a difference between a man who cares for the civilians and the ones who thinks it's justified to eradicate a town in order to eliminate a suspected terrorist. There's a difference between a man with honor and one who is trash. Can you guess what the Marines in that video are? Pure, utter, garbage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU

Watch this video and listen to the words. It isn't Anti-American. It is anti-terror. Maybe the definition of Terrorist can easily be slapped on the American G.I.'s as it's thrown onto the Islamic extremists. For the record, I have to ask. Why does America think that other countries need to be under a form of Democracy?

[Unfortunate1]

There's a difference between being trained to kill a specific target and to become a thug who kills everything in sight without conscious. There's a difference between a man who believes he is protecting his country and one who slaughters soullessly. There's a difference between a man who cares for the civilians and the ones who thinks it's justified to eradicate a town in order to eliminate a suspected terrorist. There's a difference between a man with honor and one who is trash. Can you guess what the Marines in that video are? Pure, utter, garbage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU

Watch this video and listen to the words. It isn't Anti-American. It is anti-terror. Maybe the definition of Terrorist can easily be slapped on the American G.I.'s as it's thrown onto the Islamic extremists. For the record, I have to ask. Why does America think that other countries need to be under a form of Democracy?

Alright, Alright, I get what your trying to say, but can you depict the point behind what Im saying? They are THAT pissed off and they need to vent. Someone plays hard at a video game and then t-bags an enemy to show "whos boss, oh yeah, I just did that"
A guy gets put through 13 weeks worth of super intense training, all compacted down to 9 weeks (war time training) and then is put in a desert to serve a year long tour. All that stress, and what is the point of being there? to eliminate the threat and restore peace.* They eliminated the threat, and they are boasting, creating fear in the enemy, and venting some steam.

I get your point, Get mine? :D


* I do not agree in any way that we are actually helping over there, but I also do not belive we should just pull out instantly, but rather slowly retreat. I trust your smart enough to know we cant just pull out all fighting forces and then clean up.

[christianteen]

People who don't care about this or agree with the Marines actions think of it this way. If the Taliban pissed on dead Marine bodies, how would you feel about it then?

[james97perth]

3. "America has been a super power for 70 years and little wars are there way of warning of other countries." Are. You. Shitting. Me? That is the most idiotic viewpoint I've ever heard. You're saying that we should start large scale conflicts at random to show other countries that "Yea, we'll dismantle your government, employ our form of government and murder countless civilians - to make you an example for the rest of the world for ten plus years before we repeat this with another country." Honestly...


right scoob most wars us starts korea and vietnam where to warn of china and russia but fialed and in the middle east subjecting the iraqi and afghani goverment and i was right to assosiate america with imperialism because america is an empire not territoraly but economicly and politicaly wise they are, the whole world follow america and does what the say even your own polititions want army so no one will challenge it all countries must have enemies america is empire if you like it or not since cold war ended the middle east has americas couldran .ps im not american im britsh but and in admit im racist athiest but maybe becuase my grandad died in london attacks .and innocent civilians thats the cost of war if like it not .ww2 many civilians died in sustaned bombing attacks of germany alot more that in afghanistan and any of middle eastern wars

[anonymous53]

No, I don't support the war.

I definitely don't support anyone pissing on any dead bodies, or mutilating them in any way shape or form.

The soldiers in this video have disgusted me, it's people like this that ruin the name. Just remember, not all soldiers are like this.


Just saying, if my grandfather were alive to see this video he'd have probably cried in disgust. That is not what the marine corp is supposed to stand for.

[antiabort]

Alright, Alright, I get what your trying to say, but can you depict the point behind what Im saying? They are THAT pissed off and they need to vent. Someone plays hard at a video game and then t-bags an enemy to show "whos boss, oh yeah, I just did that"
A guy gets put through 13 weeks worth of super intense training, all compacted down to 9 weeks (war time training) and then is put in a desert to serve a year long tour. All that stress, and what is the point of being there? to eliminate the threat and restore peace.* They eliminated the threat, and they are boasting, creating fear in the enemy, and venting some steam.

I get your point, Get mine? :D


* I do not agree in any way that we are actually helping over there, but I also do not belive we should just pull out instantly, but rather slowly retreat. I trust your smart enough to know we cant just pull out all fighting forces and then clean up.

Well look what we have here, an internet tough guy! Look at him with his knife, he's scary isn't he?

[StoppingTime]

Alright, Alright, I get what your trying to say, but can you depict the point behind what Im saying? They are THAT pissed off and they need to vent. Someone plays hard at a video game and then t-bags an enemy to show "whos boss, oh yeah, I just did that"
A guy gets put through 13 weeks worth of super intense training, all compacted down to 9 weeks (war time training) and then is put in a desert to serve a year long tour. All that stress, and what is the point of being there? to eliminate the threat and restore peace.* They eliminated the threat, and they are boasting, creating fear in the enemy, and venting some steam.


They had no right to disrespect a dead body, nobody really does.

[Unique Physique]

So many children in this topic, if not in age, then certainly in mentality!

YEAH! SEMPER FIDELIS! Man, what do you expect? A marine is meant to be pissed off. They don't feed you well, they train you past your limits, they give you little sleep, they mess with you constantly. The whole point of having marines is to have an All purpose expendable force that is SO PISSED OFF they want to blow the living crap out of every thing they see. The stress is the marine corps' weapon. If your pissed off, you wanna rip someones balls out, not feel sorry for them and hesitate to shoot them. This is what they want them to do! Shoot them and not feel sorry, but feel great! "This is revenge for all that I had to go through, all that I am enduring, and for blowing up my brethren and my best buddies!"

Semper Fidelis. Go Marine Snipers! I'll be one of you some day!
I agree, the US Marines (and indeed all land-based military units) are trained to be as desensitised as possible to killing enemy combatants at close quarters if the situation calls for it, but they're still human beings, no matter what you do, you can't "train" or "stress" that out of them. You might think you're being supportive by saying that, but you're actually being extremely disrespectful to your heroes by implying they are superhuman.

They don't "feel great" for killing, they are actually often full of guilt and sadness for taking another humans life, and an even stronger amount of guilt for losing their close mates in the war, because of PTSD (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001923/), which leads to a lifetime of bad flashbacks, feeling as if they're still at war, depression, substance abuse and suicide attempts. It happens to many people who go through a traumatic and horrific experience such as war.

The only exception to the rule would be genuine psychopaths, i.e. people who have a screw loose in the head, there probably are a few of them in the military that have slipped through the net, but to say the Marines are genuine psychopaths would also be an insult to them, not a compliment, since most of them are not, since they do psychological screenings on recruits before they step foot in basic training.

[Smeagol]

Even though I disagree with the Taliban... It's just really... can't find the right word... awful to take a leak on another human's body. These Taliban soldiers still probably had wives and children, and if they didn't they certainly have mothers and fathers who are enraged. Even though they're not in the right.... they're still human, right?

[Magus]

YEAH! SEMPER FIDELIS! Man, what do you expect? A marine is meant to be pissed off. They don't feed you well, they train you past your limits, they give you little sleep, they mess with you constantly.Every military units are trained in this way, and even much tougher in special units than this. EVERY military units --Whether it is the Airforce, Navy or the Army, you are trained this way -- in every country with a significant force.

Okay, taking the life of the other people is their job. But desecrating their bodies? That's a questionable conduct.

Even though I disagree with the Taliban... It's just really... can't find the right word... awful to take a leak on another human's body. These Taliban soldiers still probably had wives and children, and if they didn't they certainly have mothers and fathers who are enraged. Even though they're not in the right.... they're still human, right?In what way or sense they are not right?

[butty_92]

They'll probably get discharged dishonorably, pretty much a slap on the wrist because of who they are and where they were. This should not come into it. They have committed a war crime. End of.

[Rayquaza]

That is absoluteley disgusting, and inhumane. They should be punished.

[Sugaree]

This should not come into it. They have committed a war crime. End of.

This is hardly up for consideration for a war crime. If that were the case, they would have to break international law, which they didn't do. Now if they went into a town and started randomly killing civilians, THAT would be a war crime.

[butty_92]

It's still totally inappropriate.

[twotall]

Then stop supporting a bullshit war.
ok this is were i have to step in my brother and dad is a marines yes some ppl think we are doing nothing and some ppl think that we are but yes we did get attacked yes we did want to get the guys that did this. so we did so now we are pulling out but this is how i feel what the did was wrong and should be fixed. but if you dont stand behind your troops then you can gladly stand in front of them. if you go back to past wars who stepped in the U.S military.

[Moxie]

The whole concept of violent videos that are easily accessible on the internet kind of fascinates me. The idea that that video in particular was leaked is exceptionally surprising. The Marines in the video clearly wouldn't want to be identified - however, I can understand how they may have wanted to send a message.

I'm not sure if anyone's heard of the Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs and their "3 guys 1 hammer" video, but that was similarly fascinating to me. (Please note that if you haven't seen it, I don't recommend it. It's a very graphic "snuff film" involving torture and murder.)

[Mtc 10]

AMERICA = greatest most piwerful country in the world.. Those marines over there risking their lives for us wanna have a little fun LET THEM DO IT! Were americans we can do WHATEVER we want. We want to go and screw up a country. WE CAN.! we are just that awesome!

[Jupiter]

i find this completely disgraceful to the united states. i feel as though because of these marines, people might make a few inferences. we are supposed to be the older brother here. we need to set an example.

[Mortal Coil]

Two wrongs don't make a right. Yes, the war is a bad thing, pissing on the bodies is also bad, but nothing is excusable. However, I don't think it's that bad. I mean what is it, a sign of disrespect? Who says we have to respect the Taliban, even if they're dead? Those guys are assholes, but it's not that big of a deal in my view.

[Mtc 10]

i find this completely disgraceful to the united states. i feel as though because of these marines, people might make a few inferences. we are supposed to be the older brother here. we need to set an example.

We are setting an example. Countries look up to us. Our example is treat people like crap who defy us.! There's your example!

Repeated in history multiple times. js

[fitzman16]

i just watched it. its funny as hell. personally the taliban members deserve it anyway. i would do same thing

[Sugaree]

AMERICA = greatest most piwerful country in the world.. Those marines over there risking their lives for us wanna have a little fun LET THEM DO IT! Were americans we can do WHATEVER we want. We want to go and screw up a country. WE CAN.! we are just that awesome!

We are setting an example. Countries look up to us. Our example is treat people like crap who defy us.! There's your example!

Repeated in history multiple times. js

There are many powerful nations in the world, the United States is slowly losing its grasp of being number one. This example we're setting is incredibly low. If we were to be setting a high example, we would be humanitarians. If we were to be setting a high example, we would make sure each and every single kid gets at least a high school education so they can make it out in the world. And if we were to be setting a high example, we would be bringing peace to the world, not war.

Eventually we'll get ours handed to us. By who, I'm not sure. No one is sure. But one day, it will happen. And it will most likely be from a group like the Taliban, and they will use this as a reason to attack us. And you're going to call foul because it's wrong to attack such a "great nation", when you can't even give respect to a dead body.

People die on our streets every day. They die from disease, starvation, and a number of tragedies. Why do we ignore them? Do you not think it would be a high example for the world to see that we take care of our own? We have such a powerful government and the means to help get ourselves back on track, yet we feel the need to act like World Police.

You know about The Golden Rule, correct? Do unto others as you would have them done unto you. Do you really think it's right for us to cry foul whenever our soldiers are killed when we praise the killing of a sectarian?

[Mtc 10]

Sir you are a true disgrace to Americans WE are the master race!!

[Sugaree]

Sir you are a true disgrace to Americans WE are the master race!!

How?

[Peace God]

Were americans we can do WHATEVER we want. We want to go and screw up a country. WE CAN.! we are just that awesome!
kshqj1rIyEo

[Mtc 10]

the example we are setting may not be the best moral example. But for it is the best example. Hah the government wants you to believe we are slowly losing our grasp. BULL. we a firmer than ever!! hahah they are putting fear in us. Their is truly nothing to fear. We are powerful. we are THE MASTER RACE!! (FEELS LIKE the 1940's) we could take over this world easily without breaking a sweat. Especially with Britain on our side. being that w would never lose our ties

Nifty. So in return we kill tens of thousands more? Innocent peoples with nothing to do even remotely with those incidents are fair game to be killed? That's the most idiotic thinking I've ever heard of. Paying innocent blood with the blood of innocents is a sick form of reprisal. More people have died in this pointless war than those two terrorist bombings could have ever dreamed of. You're just sending more American's to their death and killing more innocent Muslims as you go. There are entire Middle Eastern towns that are wiped out by remote controlled explosive devices because of suspicion of a possible member of Al Qaeda lodging there. POSSIBLE being the key word. How is it right to claim that those innocents in those cities were only mere 'collateral damage'? It's gone from us fighting a war on terror to instilling terror in the innocents of the Middle East.

Doesn't matter. People were willing to fight for our country. Our soldiers are ust another government accessory as sad as it is too say. They are G.I.'s Government Issued/ And they are willing to fight for this GREAT country of ours, they are awesome for that. We went to find our target and even after ten years and we STILL got him. We are just that awesome. AMERICANS = GREATNESS

posts merged. do not double post, use the edit button. -embers

[Sugaree]

we could take over this world easily without breaking a sweat. Especially with Britain on our side. being that w would never lose our ties

Believe it or not, Britain is smarter than to support tyrannical attitudes like yours. They learned their lesson after the fall of their huge empire in the 16th and 17th centuries. Seriously man, I do not see how you can believe we're the greatest nation. You're acting like you can pick up the clean end of a turd. And no, from what I hear from this government, we are not losing our power. All I hear about is a bunch of patriotic bullshit that means little to nothing. It's time we hand over our power to nations that are trying to further their development. Just because we happen to be top dog doesn't mean we need to bully everyone.

[Genghis Khan]

Sir you are a true disgrace to Americans WE are the master race!!

Lol. Race. Black and white, that's race. America is a nation, American is a nationality. Tsk tsk, such abuse of terminology.

[Professional Russian]

Lol. Race. Black and white, that's race. America is a nation, American is a nationality. Tsk tsk, such abuse of terminology.

Yes this is exactly it.

the example we are setting may not be the best moral example. But for it is the best example. Hah the government wants you to believe we are slowly losing our grasp. BULL. we a firmer than ever!! hahah they are putting fear in us. Their is truly nothing to fear. We are powerful. we are THE MASTER RACE!! (FEELS LIKE the 1940's) we could take over this world easily without breaking a sweat. Especially with Britain on our side. being that w would never lose our ties



Doesn't matter. People were willing to fight for our country. Our soldiers are ust another government accessory as sad as it is too say. They are G.I.'s Government Issued/ And they are willing to fight for this GREAT country of ours, they are awesome for that. We went to find our target and even after ten years and we STILL got him. We are just that awesome. AMERICANS = GREATNESS

posts merged. do not double post, use the edit button. -embers


1.if you dont know what your saying dont say it.(trust me ive gotten lectures on here about that a million times.)

2.Your either stupid or trolling. I cant tell.

http://i.imgur.com/Jy3by.jpg

[Mtc 10]

Believe it or not, Britain is smarter than to support tyrannical attitudes like yours. They learned their lesson after the fall of their huge empire in the 16th and 17th centuries. Seriously man, I do not see how you can believe we're the greatest nation. You're acting like you can pick up the clean end of a turd. And no, from what I hear from this government, we are not losing our power. All I hear about is a bunch of patriotic bullshit that means little to nothing. It's time we hand over our power to nations that are trying to further their development. Just because we happen to be top dog doesn't mean we need to bully everyone.

Hand over our power?? Are you nuts? We hand over our power those countries will bend us over and give it too us! Everyones always worried about 3rd world countries!! Screw them!! We not enitrely but make sure our homefront people are OK before you go and trying helping other people! We NEED too follow our old policy of isolationalism! Why would we hand over our power anyways! It feels great to be the greatest country on this planet!! we are AMERICANS!! haha. patriotc? all they talk about is other countri!es with nuclear weapons and how were worried!! oh please MALARKEY!! That is the LAST thing on our minds. These countries now not to mess with us.! BUT if they will wake up to the program and start practicing ISOLATIONALISM! then we will really become a world power!

[Sugaree]

Hand over our power?? Are you nuts?

No, I just don't think we need to have number one spot in the world. Give others a chance to grow.

We hand over our power those countries will bend us over and give it too us!

I'm talking about countries in South America (you know, Argentina, Brazil, etc.). Right now, there are so many opportunities for these countries, yet they're being held back. Let's get into more trade agreements with them. Import some more products of theirs and export more products of ours. If you think I would willingly hand out power like THAT to a country capable of producing weapons or starting a skirmish, you've mistaken me for a fool.

Everyones always worried about 3rd world countries!! Screw them!! We not enitrely but make sure our homefront people are OK before you go and trying helping other people!

You make it sound like a bad thing that we extend our hands in the time of need. Even Bush rejected help from nations in the wake of 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina. It's this attitude which gives people an unfriendly impression about America. We have officials that believe themselves to be high and mighty beings with unlimited power. And for the most part, they have that. You ever wonder why most of the world hates us? Look on the homefront and the leaders, you'll get the message.

We NEED too follow our old policy of isolationalism! Why would we hand over our power anyways! It feels great to be the greatest country on this planet!! we are AMERICANS!!

Our policy from the get go was never isolationism. Pick up any history book and you'll see that, at one time, the United States wanted to control parts of Canada. We also love to get our noses into the affairs of other parts of the world (see Mogadishu and the entire controversy of the diamond mines; you can watch the movie "Blood Diamond" to see what it was about and you can find plenty of documentaries). We don't want to keep to ourselves, we want to somehow spread democracy to all parts of the world. In other words, many people in this nation WANT the world to be exactly like America. A good vision in theory, but in practice, not so much.


patriotc? all they talk about is other countri!es with nuclear weapons and how were worried!! oh please MALARKEY!! That is the LAST thing on our minds. These countries now not to mess with us.! BUT if they will wake up to the program and start practicing ISOLATIONALISM! then we will really become a world power!

Yes, patriotic. Every American is patriotic in their own way (some wave the flag and others don't; some like to wear clothes depicting their freedom while others don't). All I hear from Washington is about this bullshit concept about "American exceptionalism". Anybody can make it in the world if they give themselves the opportunity to advance beyond their surroundings. Unfortunately, many are not able to do that. A child in South Africa has a chance at a better life, but what are the odds that he or she even get that chance?

You say countries know not to mess with us. Surely you're aware of the rising tensions between us and Iran over the Strait of Hormuz, correct? If it were true that countries knew not to "mess with" us, why would Iran threaten to shut off the Strait of Hormuz? Why would they send small dinghies from their Navy close to our battleships? They WANT us to attack, they WANT us to get angry.

[gone123]

We went to find our target and even after ten years and we STILL got him. We are just that awesome. AMERICANS = GREATNESS

It took you ten years, thousands dead and billions of dollars spent to find a guy sitting around in a huge house, shoot him and proclaim "The world has been saved, we are the best, mission accomplished." The U.S. started all this Iraq and Afghanistan bull, not the other way round. If the U.S. didn't have this exact attitude of "we are the best everyone else sucks" than the world wouldn't have half as many problems. The U.S. is the world's big bully, and I'm willing to say that if the U.S. did go to war with a country like Britain or Canada, I'll bet that the majority of countries would side against the U.S. Of course people are going to say the schoolyard bully is their best friend when the bully is threatening to punch them, but when the bully finds themself in trouble for beating on another kid, who's side will the rest of the playground be on then? The bully that's been taking all their lunch money? Or the kid who they like to play kickball with? /rant

[Professional Russian]

I love how when those fucking bastards killed millions of ours no one cared as much as when a few marines take a piss on them

[Peace God]

I love how when those fucking bastards killed millions of ours no one cared as much as when a few marines take a piss on them
Millions? Not even close. It's also not true that we care more about this than what they've done to us (or what we think they've done to us). Your point just fails on so many levels.

[Mtc 10]

It took you ten years, thousands dead and billions of dollars spent to find a guy sitting around in a huge house, shoot him and proclaim "The world has been saved, we are the best, mission accomplished." The U.S. started all this Iraq and Afghanistan bull, not the other way round. If the U.S. didn't have this exact attitude of "we are the best everyone else sucks" than the world wouldn't have half as many problems. The U.S. is the world's big bully, and I'm willing to say that if the U.S. did go to war with a country like Britain or Canada, I'll bet that the majority of countries would side against the U.S. Of course people are going to say the schoolyard bully is their best friend when the bully is threatening to punch them, but when the bully finds themself in trouble for beating on another kid, who's side will the rest of the playground be on then? The bully that's been taking all their lunch money? Or the kid who they like to play kickball with? /rant

We are the big bully that rules. UK and Canada would never go to war with us. We are too close in ties. And its good that the world hates us.. Let them hate.! And yes. We are the best.! along with the UK.. they are pretty awesome too! but our northern brothern country can go somewhere else. Anyways. Noone cares about a few bodies.! Let the marines have fun!! THey are over there risking their lives for us.! And yes in responce to EVERYONE saying what if it was you! well. this is how i see it.. i die in war and enemies pee on me. Its my fought for even enlisting. SO i honestly blame them for being peed on!

[Peace God]

its good that the world hates us..
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n7Bhto-TFn0/TcUgcgcFKKI/AAAAAAAACFU/1E4j5cRb7HY/s1600/911-fake-planes.jpg

...uhhh, no it's not.

[Mtc 10]

image (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n7Bhto-TFn0/TcUgcgcFKKI/AAAAAAAACFU/1E4j5cRb7HY/s1600/911-fake-planes.jpg)

...uhhh, no it's not.

let them take down the towers.. We have a new one. and we got our man. so GOOD the world hates us

[Sugaree]

let them take down the towers.. We have a new one. and we got our man. so GOOD the world hates us

So you want this country to be in danger? Would you rather not be safe and secure and not under the fear that we could be attacked again?

[Mtc 10]

Weell Im almost positive no country is crazy enough to use nuclear weapons. being that a nuclear war would basically kill everyone

[TheMatrix]

AMERICA = greatest most piwerful country in the world.. Those marines over there risking their lives for us wanna have a little fun LET THEM DO IT! Were americans we can do WHATEVER we want. We want to go and screw up a country. WE CAN.! we are just that awesome!

Sir you are a true disgrace to Americans WE are the master race!!

Hand over our power?? Are you nuts? We hand over our power those countries will bend us over and give it too us! Everyones always worried about 3rd world countries!! Screw them!! We not enitrely but make sure our homefront people are OK before you go and trying helping other people! We NEED too follow our old policy of isolationalism! Why would we hand over our power anyways! It feels great to be the greatest country on this planet!! we are AMERICANS!! haha. patriotc? all they talk about is other countri!es with nuclear weapons and how were worried!! oh please MALARKEY!! That is the LAST thing on our minds. These countries now not to mess with us.! BUT if they will wake up to the program and start practicing ISOLATIONALISM! then we will really become a world power!

let them take down the towers.. We have a new one. and we got our man. so GOOD the world hates us
Please tell me you are trolling.

[Genghis Khan]

Weell Im almost positive no country is crazy enough to use nuclear weapons.

Do they have to? 9/11 was anything but nuclear-oriented. In any case you'd think that the most powerful nation in the world, the one that claims to hold modern views and rational ideals would have some sense of responsibility. I mean, they're so hell bent on imposing their democracy on pretty much everyone, yet they have people like you with this bullshit imperialist mentality. Even by Bush's standards you're off the chart. But hey, why am I even arguing with you, you're not even the least bit representative of the American population, this post wasn't even worth responding to but for the sake of conclusion I'll just say that your points are pretty stupid.

[Wicked_Syn]

Wow, this thread is just full of ignorance..

[Sugaree]

Wow, this thread is just full of ignorance..

Welcome to The Daily Chronicle.

[Peace God]

let them take down the towers.. We have a new one. and we got our man. so GOOD the world hates us
You must love war and senseless bloodshed.

[Professional Russian]

We are the big bully that rules. UK and Canada would never go to war with us. We are too close in ties. And its good that the world hates us.. Let them hate.! And yes. We are the best.! along with the UK.. they are pretty awesome too! but our northern brothern country can go somewhere else. Anyways. Noone cares about a few bodies.! Let the marines have fun!! THey are over there risking their lives for us.! And yes in responce to EVERYONE saying what if it was you! well. this is how i see it.. i die in war and enemies pee on me. Its my fought for even enlisting. SO i honestly blame them for being peed on!

What the fuck is wrong with you

[Mtc 10]

I love my country! and I stand behind it! And no i dont like bloodshed, butwe are almighty. and we must do what it takes to get stuff done. We had to nut up or give it up. Meaning give up our power. SO yes in this case i DO like bloodshed

[Christheman]

We have no buisness over there.... oh yeah that's right they just want oil!

[kenoloor]

I love my country! and I stand behind it! And no i dont like bloodshed, butwe are almighty. and we must do what it takes to get stuff done. We had to nut up or give it up. Meaning give up our power. SO yes in this case i DO like bloodshed

Wow.

[Magus]

We have no buisness over there.... oh yeah that's right they just want oil!Oil? From Afghanistan? Afghanistan doesn't have oil.
I love my country! and I stand behind it! And no i dont like bloodshed, butwe are almighty. and we must do what it takes to get stuff done. We had to nut up or give it up. Meaning give up our power. SO yes in this case i DO like bloodshed We know you have something wrong in you. No need to express it this much.

[Genghis Khan]

We have no buisness over there.... oh yeah that's right they just want oil!

The war in Afghanistan is a completely different story. There isn't much oil in Afghanistan, although them Afghans got some fine drugs there mhmm gurll u got dat crystal meth nd crack cocaine.

[Peace God]

I love my country! and I stand behind it! And no i dont like bloodshed, butwe are almighty. and we must do what it takes to get stuff done. We had to nut up or give it up. Meaning give up our power. SO yes in this case i DO like bloodshed
You're...you're nuts man.
We have no buisness over there.... oh yeah that's right they just want oil!
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm0qtux72x1qa90reo1_500.jpg

[Professional Russian]

... coming from the guy that wants 12 year olds to have guns.

really your really going back to that

[Jupiter]

100 reply!

oh fuck yeah.

this is embarrassing to america.

[UnknownError]

... coming from the guy that wants 12 year olds to have guns.

really your really going back to that

That argument is always relevant.

Also *you're.

[AppealToReason]

... coming from the guy that wants 12 year olds to have guns.

Did you really need to bring something up from a different fucking thread in here just to upset the guy?

[embers]

Okay guys we've endured this meandering shitstorm long enough. :locked: