No Smoking in Public Places?

[PerpetualImperfexion]

In Indiana you are not allowed to smoke in any public building. I'm going to use restraunts as an example. Even though they used to have a section for smokers and non-smokers they refuse to let people smoke in these restraunts. There is no reason a person should be kicked out of a restraunt for smoking in a place where everyone else is smoking and obviously doesn't care about inhaling the smoke. In my opinion its an attempt to try and stop people from smoking. Another part of this law is that a person is not allowed to smoke with in a certain distance of the entrance to any public building. This distance is ridiculous considering the ash trays are typically 2 feet away from the doors, literally. I understand why they would pass this law if they were trying to stop people from smoking in places like stores, but what's the problem if the smokers and non-smokers are being segregated?

[antiabort]

It's because non smokers get bitchy and whiny and say shit like "WAAAAAH, THE SMOKE SMELLS BAD, WAAAAAH" stupid if you ask me.

[kenoloor]

It's because non smokers get bitchy and whiny and say shit like "WAAAAAH, THE SMOKE SMELLS BAD, WAAAAAH" stupid if you ask me.

Yeah, what a stupid opinion.

I was living in Wisconsin before the no smoking bill got passed there. In restaurants where there was a smoking section and a non-smoking section, it didn't really make a difference. Because of the smoking section, there was quite literally a smog over the entire restaurant. Being a non-smoker, and not particularly liking the smell of smoke, it's not the most pleasant environment to be in.
I'm living in Illinois now, where the law is that you have to be 25 feet away from any public entrance. There are signs that explicitly state this ("MUST BE 25 FEET AWAY TO SMOKE"), and nobody follows those rules, not even cops.

[Modus Operandi]

It's because non smokers get bitchy and whiny and say shit like "WAAAAAH, THE SMOKE SMELLS BAD, WAAAAAH" stupid if you ask me.

And why shouldn't we get angry? It's an unpleasant problem with a simple cure: don't smoke in public places. If you want to do so in your car or home, go right ahead. But don't befoul air everyone has to breathe.

[screamtobeheard]

Also, a lot of people are allergic to smoke. I know my dad is, and the smoke travels. It's offensive to a lot of non-smokers, and smokers as well. My aunt smokes, and she hates when other people smoke around her in public. It's kind of something that should be done privately.

[Jupiter]

I think they should allow it. But, have a sign saying that there is smoking allowed. that's all. :/

[OnlyByTheNight.]

As a smoker myself I agree with the smoking ban in public places. It is in the best interests of everyone not to be allowed to smoke in places where babies and young children are present as it is disrespectful to expect children to breath in these damaging fumes.
I may not be happy about having to go outside to smoke but I know there is a point to it.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

Yeah, what a stupid opinion.

I was living in Wisconsin before the no smoking bill got passed there. In restaurants where there was a smoking section and a non-smoking section, it didn't really make a difference. Because of the smoking section, there was quite literally a smog over the entire restaurant. Being a non-smoker, and not particularly liking the smell of smoke, it's not the most pleasant environment to be in.
I'm living in Illinois now, where the law is that you have to be 25 feet away from any public entrance. There are signs that explicitly state this ("MUST BE 25 FEET AWAY TO SMOKE"), and nobody follows those rules, not even cops.

The reason I made a big deal of having to stand a certain distance from the door is because one of my mom's friends was making a big deal about some cop yelling at them to move away from the door while smoking, even though she was trying to dispose of it in the ash tray.

[Craig1995]

We haven't been able to smoke in public places for years now in Scotland it's coz passive smoking has lots of health threats.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

We haven't been able to smoke in public places for years now in Scotland it's coz passive smoking has lots of health threats.

So are you saying you're not allowed to smoke in public because its bad for you?

[UnknownError]

Yeh Scotland has had this law for years. It's better for everyone, non smokers dont have to breath it in and lazy smokers might quit because they cant get off their fat ass to get to the door. It's a good system.

[DerBear]

although we dont have the law of 25 feet in scotland just the ocasional No smoking in this area sign.

I agree with the smoking ban

[OnlyByTheNight.]

So are you saying you're not allowed to smoke in public because its bad for you?

Yes well I think everyone in the world can tell you that smoking is bad for you. -_-

What they are trying to say is that smoking in public places is bad because it is harming the people around you, who aren't smokers, with second hand smoke.

[Core]

I shouldn't have to I hail your toxic fumes because ur to lazy to step outside to smoke

[jimmyboy92]

Engalnd has this law too, and I can understand it, but not the 'distance from a bulding' thing.

I personally don't smoke.....but only cos I'm too poor lol, I feel better after a passive smoke at college break!

[Jean Poutine]

It's 9 meters from a building in Quebec and it's not nearly enough.

All these smoking asshats rassemble themselves just exactly 9 meters away from the building's entrance. They're like flies attracted to dung and it smells as bad too.

Result being that whenever I want to enter a building, especially in summer, there's a gauntlet of second hand smoke I absolutely must pass through if I wish to gain entrance. I shorten my own life in the process by no action of my own.

Smoking should be literally banned everywhere except in one's home. For God's sake, stop stinking up the universe.

[OnlyByTheNight.]

It's 9 meters from a building in Quebec and it's not nearly enough.

All these smoking asshats rassemble themselves just exactly 9 meters away from the building's entrance. They're like flies attracted to dung and it smells as bad too.

Result being that whenever I want to enter a building, especially in summer, there's a gauntlet of second hand smoke I absolutely must pass through if I wish to gain entrance. I shorten my own life in the process by no action of my own.

Smoking should be literally banned everywhere except in one's home. For God's sake, stop stinking up the universe.

That's a bit harsh...

[Jean Poutine]

That's a bit harsh...

My mom has smoken from years 15 to 60. If anything it's not harsh enough.

[OnlyByTheNight.]

My mom has smoken from years 15 to 60. If anything it's not harsh enough.

1. Its "has smoked" and "smoken".

2. What does that have to do with your argument?

3. It is still very harsh, what you've just said hasn't changed that.

[Patchy]

Smoking ban has been in the UK for about 6 years now.

Being a smoker, I actually don't mind going outside for a fag, means everyone inside that doesn't smoke don't have smoke smelling clothes.

It's also a matter of safety as well. Back in the day you could smoke in nightclubs...even on the packed dancefloors, which meant that you would get ash on you or worse...ciggie burns. Thats burns that could ruin clothes and even your skin!

Smoking ban isn't that bad to me, most bars have smokers areas outside with patio heaters and shelter and it keeps buildings smelling fresh.

[Jean Poutine]

1. Its "has smoked" and "smoken".

Et comment est ton français? On pourrait continuer cette discussion dans ma langue, comme ça, peut-être que ce serait à mon tour de rigoler à tes dépens. En plus, j'arrêterais de donner à tout le monde ici le bénéfice d'être à domicile, linguistiquement parlant. À mon avis, c'est une excellente idée.

Non? Les têtes carrées sont toutes pareilles.

Also, it's "it's".

2. What does that have to do with your argument?

When you invite your friends over and they comment, every time, on how your house stinks, when people find that you stink because your clothes smell of cigarette (and it has nothing to do with cleanliness), all because your mom is a smoker, it tends to affect your views on reeksticks.

It's not harsh enough because smoking screwed up with my childhood.

I did not think I had to spell this out.

3. It is still very harsh, what you've just said hasn't changed that.

It's considerably less harsh than subjecting others to the torment of stinking ass in addition to slowly poisoning them. Supra note 2.

People might say cars do the same thing. It doesn't screw you up unless you have your nose stuck in the exhaust pipe. With smokers, you've got your nose in the proverbial exhaust pipe every day. Just step outside any big building.

[Korashk]

Result being that whenever I want to enter a building, especially in summer, there's a gauntlet of second hand smoke I absolutely must pass through if I wish to gain entrance. I shorten my own life in the process by no action of my own.
Hold your breath if it bothers you that much. Or show me credible research that says that inhaling a negligible amount of secondhand smoke is quantitatively detrimental to your health.

I've also noticed that hardly anyone that calls for the banning of smoke in public places also calls for the banning of driving cars in public places, or the banning of industrial factories. All of these things also cause the same effects as secondhand smoking when applied to public places.

Hell, a person who lives in LA or New York that's never inhaled secondhand smoke probably has a greater chance of dying of lung cancer than a person who lives in a rural town where smoking isn't banned in public places.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

I also heard what was mentioned above. I think there were some sort of studies that showed that those exposed to second hand smoke were more resistant to certain lung infections.


It's "it's"
You understood what he meant, right? Why edit someone's grammar when you know what they're talking about.

[MisterSix]

Believe it or not but smoking isn't that bad for you. They exaggerate the claims to a ridicules point now. I read somewhere that said studies proved, smoking causes SIDS. anyone that knows anything about SIDS knows thats bullshit.

They realized non-smokers were dieing from lung cancers and didn't know why, so they blame it on smokers. The reality is, if your body can't handle the tiny bit of smoke you get around smokers, you were probably going to get cancer anyway.

And now smoking somehow blocks your arteries. I thought that was fatty foods job.

[kenoloor]

Believe it or not but smoking isn't that bad for you. They exaggerate the claims to a ridicules point now. I read somewhere that said studies proved, smoking causes SIDS. anyone that knows anything about SIDS knows thats bullshit.

They realized non-smokers were dieing from lung cancers and didn't know why, so they blame it on smokers. The reality is, if your body can't handle the tiny bit of smoke you get around smokers, you were probably going to get cancer anyway.

And now smoking somehow blocks your arteries. I thought that was fatty foods job.

Source, please.

[Jean Poutine]

Hold your breath if it bothers you that much. Or show me credible research that says that inhaling a negligible amount of secondhand smoke is quantitatively detrimental to your health.

I've also noticed that hardly anyone that calls for the banning of smoke in public places also calls for the banning of driving cars in public places, or the banning of industrial factories. All of these things also cause the same effects as secondhand smoking when applied to public places.

Hell, a person who lives in LA or New York that's never inhaled secondhand smoke probably has a greater chance of dying of lung cancer than a person who lives in a rural town where smoking isn't banned in public places.

U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General. Rockville, MD: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Coordinating Center for Health Promotion, National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, Office on Smoking and Health, 2006.

I like this thing because of the entranceway shit. (www.wrha.mb.ca/healthinfo/preventill/tobacco/files/FactSheet_SecondHand.pdf)

You're throwing things completely out of proportion. Cars and factories are a necessary evil and are being improved. Cigarettes aren't.

When smokers line up corridors leading to the entrance of a building, you might as well be indoors with them. It doesn't change anything. I could hold my breath and let them continue to intoxicate everyone else, or protest. What's the better choice?

Want to smoke? Fine. Do it at home. Stink up your own air.

[backtobackawesome]

Want to smoke? Fine. Do it at home. Stink up your own air.

no how about i come and stink up YOURE air how do u like that

if you have problems with smoking then dont go near it its our right to smoke if we deseir

[Jean Poutine]

no how about i come and stink up YOURE air how do u like that

if you have problems with smoking then dont go near it its our right to smoke if we deseir

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I bet your mother smoked while she carried you.

There's no "right to smoke". It's not in the Bill of Rights, it's not in the CCRF, it's not in the UNDHR. You can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't keep me from doing whatever I want. Your shit keeps me from breathing. I shouldn't have to accomodate you. When I go to attend college, the fucking entrance is full of assholes like you who don't give a shit about poisoning others. Keep your SHS away from my face. You made the choice to smoke, fucking deal with it, because I sure as hell shouldn't have to.

Smoking costs countries with national health care programs billions of dollars. If big tobacco wasn't so powerful it would be outlawed already.

[backtobackawesome]

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I bet your mother smoked while she carried you.

i bet ur daddy smoke b4 he carry u cuz ur a piece of dung

[Scarface]

any further nonsense in this thread and it will not only be locked but ill hand out infractions.

In Canada it is a lot harsher than a lot of states. In Ontario (Excluding some thing in Toronto) that you cannot smoke more than 9 some meters I think (Im used to imperial :P) from the bus shelter or outside of a building or anywhere in restaurants. I think its pretty bullshit as a smoker for quite some years I think its gone a bit far, people didnt give a shit until 14 some odd years ago. What happened all the years the people were inhaling it up until that point? hell smoking was cool before the companys started putting bullshit into their blends. All in all its whatever I will smoke outside.

[embers]

Guys let's just chill a bit, nobody's a piece of dung here except he who carries on the bashing.

Edit: and ronnie beats me to it

[OnlyByTheNight.]

Well, it's kind of ironic that he/she was complaining about Forseti's grammar and then made an error themselves.

I was doing it to make a point that you shouldn't be bitching about someone's small grammar mistake and then make one yourself...

At least "its" is a word, unlike "smoken". Now grow up.

[Jean Poutine]

At least "its" is a word, unlike "smoken". Now grow up.

J'en reviens pas de l'hypocrisie qu'on peut se permettre d'afficher en public...

[Malcolm Tucker]

There wasn't a sign beside Ronnie's post saying "Please Ignore This". As such,

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