Pink Floyd

[Pig on the Wing]

So I'd like to start this thread because I simply love the amazing music and concepts of the band Pink Floyd. Last spring, I went to see an awesome tribute band called "The Pink Floyd Experience", and for a fan like me, it was one amazing night. Towards the end of the show, they said that many of us would agree that Pink Floyd's music is "some of the best music ever written." I agree with that statement without hesitation. My obsession with this band has never ended, and never will. They have been, and still are a huge influence on me as a musician, both in my performance and composition/writing.


Feel free to talk about anything related to the band, its members, story, music, etc.

[Wakesetter03]

I've been an on and off obssesive Floyd fan for a while.
I didn't listen to them for years than a mate of mine show me a video of theirs on YouTube; "Comfortably Numb" from their P.U.L.S.E. tour.

I've recently been listening to the "Echoes" Compilation CD as well as my copies of "Another Brick in the Wall" and "Dark Side of the Moon" as well as a few one offs from their other albums.

They're definitely in my driving music list :)

[IamJimmy1992]

Such a massive fan of Pink Floyd.They are without doubt one of the greatest live bands of all time. I love the theatrical style of music they play, their genius song writing, Gilmore's incredible vocals and solo ability, they are just a truly breath taking band.

[Sugaree]

I like your name OP, listening to "Animals" right now.

[Pig on the Wing]

I like your name OP, listening to "Animals" right now.

Nice signature, too. :)
"Wearing the Inside Out" is a very underrated Division Bell track, at least in my opinion.

[kenoloor]

I've never been an obsessive Pink Floyd fan; I do, though, love their music very much. I think they're one of the more original bands I've heard, and I love the sound they had. I don't, however, think that their music is "some of the best music ever written." I'm a classical music nerd, and would definitely have to say that Pink Floyd's music pales in comparison to music of the German greats, Mozart, Beethoven, Bach. In fact, probably a good 98% of what Pink Floyd did, chordally, Mozart created.

[Sugaree]

Nice signature, too. :)
"Wearing the Inside Out" is a very underrated Division Bell track, at least in my opinion.

I still think that "Division Bell" is one of their unsung works. There's a lot of similarities between it and Gilmour's "On an Island", especially with a very liquid sounding slide guitar. What do you think of other Waters era material?

[Aves]

Been listening A Momentary Lapse of Reason quite a lot lately (as in 3 times in the past 2 days :P)

[Magenta]

Matt and Connor introduced me to Pink Floyd last night... and it is very rare that I ever feel like I've actually been missing something when it comes to music. I love, as someone said, the theatrical style. I was listening to 'The Trial' and it had almost like that dark, musical feel to it.

Their songs actually tell a story, unlike most music written today.

[deadpie]

Their songs actually tell a story, unlike most music written today.

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Also can you really say that "most music today" if you were just recently introduced to Pink Floyd? I mean, the second most overrated band on this planet? Not saying they're bad, because David Gilmour is a fucking God and I had a worship phase towards him at one time, but I'm just saying... you shouldn't say "most music" about literally anything - just like how I hate when people say, "I listen to all music except country and rap". There's tons of conceptual music still being made. All because it's not blasting out in your face while your in a car doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The high majority of music made is not even well known about/underground. I'd say less than a single percent of music is mainstream or is well known.

[Magenta]

Also can you really say that "most music today" if you were just recently introduced to Pink Floyd? I mean, the second most overrated band on this planet? Not saying they're bad, because David Gilmour is a fucking God and I had a worship phase towards him at one time, but I'm just saying... you shouldn't say "most music" about literally anything - just like how I hate when people say, "I listen to all music except country and rap". There's tons of conceptual music still being made. All because it's not blasting out in your face while your in a car doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The high majority of music made is not even well known about/underground. I'd say less than a single percent of music is mainstream or is well known.

Why does saying 'most music today' automatically mean it's entirely mainstream or well known? Sorry, I'll rephrase that: most music today I have come across. And trust me, there's a fair bit that is not mainstream or well known. I've come across plenty of conceptual music but what I have encountered was either not very good or not something I enjoyed listening to.

So what if Pink Floyd is overrated in your opinion? All I said was I enjoy their music, the end. Sure, I generalized but my generalization will be different than yours, oh well.

[deadpie]

Why does saying 'most music today' automatically mean it's entirely mainstream or well known?

You're misreading my post. You said, "Their songs actually tell a story, unlike most music written today." I said how can you say that if you didn't even know the existence of one of the most well known bands in the world? Then I said that most music is music you haven't heard, meaning that you're talking about music you haven't heard. There's tons of good conceptual music out there and still being made. Hell, there's tons of good ANYTHING in terms of music, you just have to look, which isn't difficult.

Sorry, I'll rephrase that: most music today I have come across.

Yes, that's what you should of said.

So what if Pink Floyd is overrated in your opinion? All I said was I enjoy their music, the end.

Lol, you totally didn't understand my post. David Gilmour = Member of Pink Floyd. I said I worshiped him at one point of my life. That obviously means that I love his music and the band.

I'm sorry being douchey and picking on you, but my issue was just the fact you decided to talk about a majority you aren't well fond on.

[Magenta]

People are going to generalize. If I could listen to all the music in the world, I would but no one can actually do that. xD I can say that because, before now, I've not been well-acquainted with good concept music and now I've come across something I enjoy. It's entirely subjective which one would think is implied when speaking of tastes in music and the like.

[Pig on the Wing]

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Also can you really say that "most music today" if you were just recently introduced to Pink Floyd? I mean, the second most overrated band on this planet? Not saying they're bad, because David Gilmour is a fucking God and I had a worship phase towards him at one time, but I'm just saying... you shouldn't say "most music" about literally anything - just like how I hate when people say, "I listen to all music except country and rap". There's tons of conceptual music still being made. All because it's not blasting out in your face while your in a car doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The high majority of music made is not even well known about/underground. I'd say less than a single percent of music is mainstream or is well known.

Your graphic organizer gave me a good laugh. Then I read the rest of your post and realized it wasn't in good fun.

The fact that someone here was introduced to this band so recently makes me happy, and proves that good music is timeless. The majority of Rodger Waters' writing was not done selfishly. He was the guy who mainly came up with big ideas that an audience would feel connected to. I could go on and give countless examples of specific albums, and how your bigoted opinion fails to make any sense, but I didn't come here to argue. I'd just like to point out that there was never a weak member of Pink Floyd. Every member played with such an amazingly wide range of sound and emotion, and when performing together, they matched each others' dynamics and overall playing with such accuracy to the overall sound that their music still gives me goosebumps even after the millionth listen. Don't accuse fans of any band of only liking the music because it's 'hyped'. Good music is good music. Good music akin to what Pink Floyd did can be found today. Pink Floyd got popular because they were unlike any other band. Amazing bands still create powerful music today; blame it on pop culture for "moving on" (a totally bullshit idea that runs the industry today) when new musical masterpieces doesn't make the top charts.

[deadpie]

The majority of Rodger Waters' writing was not done selfishly. He was the guy who mainly came up with big ideas that an audience would feel connected to. I could go on and give countless examples of specific albums, and how your bigoted opinion fails to make any sense, but I didn't come here to argue. I'd just like to point out that there was never a weak member of Pink Floyd. Every member played with such an amazingly wide range of sound and emotion, and when performing together, they matched each others' dynamics and overall playing with such accuracy to the overall sound that their music still gives me goosebumps even after the millionth listen.

Roger Waters is definitely one of the biggest douche bags in music ever. He's the reason Pink Floyd broke up. This is the same douche bag that spat in the faces of fans and paid people to destroy the Elliott Smith memorial wall and replaced it with stickers on how much he hates republicans.

Any good fan of the band would realize that even though he is a genius, he's a fucking asshole.

[Sugaree]

Roger Waters is definitely one of the biggest douche bags in music ever. He's the reason Pink Floyd broke up. This is the same douche bag that spat in the faces of fans and paid people to destroy the Elliott Smith memorial wall and replaced it with stickers on how much he hates republicans.

Any good fan of the band would realize that even though he is a genius, he's a fucking asshole.

Even though he apologized for the entire Elliot Smith memorial wall plaster, I still agree that was a dick move. He's a great musician, but he's an even greater asshole.

[Pig on the Wing]

Roger Waters is definitely one of the biggest douche bags in music ever. He's the reason Pink Floyd broke up. This is the same douche bag that spat in the faces of fans and paid people to destroy the Elliott Smith memorial wall and replaced it with stickers on how much he hates republicans.

Any good fan of the band would realize that even though he is a genius, he's a fucking asshole.

I was saying that Waters wasn't always a douche bag. He felt bad about spitting on the fan on that infamous performance; this was the event that inspired The Wall.

During that time though, he was such a jerk to Rick Wright, eventually threatening to cancel the album if they didn't kick him out of the band.

Then there was the Final Cut, an album nobody gives a shit about including myself. It's all about politics of the time and bitching about war and how the world's not perfect. It should have been labeled as a Rodger Waters solo album and not associated with Pink Floyd's legendary discography. If anything, at least "Not Now John" is a kick-ass song that is worth listening to on it's own.

And there we have it. Rodger Waters is still doing the same thing. He brought The Wall back to the stage recently, killing the original point/concept of the album by turning it into another one of his political 'Let's all be socilist!!' statements.

Now let's look at Gilmour and Wright. After the Final Cut, when Rodger tried to put an end to Pink Floyd as a whole, David stubbornly refused. He loved to create music, and didn't see a reason to stop. Being the selfish bastard he had become, Rodger tried to prevent Dave from having the rights to the Floyd. Legal matters ensued. Gilmour came out victorious. Did he deserve to? Let's see what he did with his victory.

First, he threw together "A Momentary Lapse of Reason" with a lot of outside musicians. This album does not really sound like Pink Floyd because even Nick Mason's contributions were minimal. As a whole, it really doesn't hold up to other Floyd albums, but almost every individual song is worth having because they're still great songs. Rick Wright was brought back into the picture here too- but for now, still only a minimal contributor, and only as a session musician.

Then they toured. Together on stage, the three of them (with Guy Pratt on bass). This was a genuine Pink Floyd show. It only gets better from here.

Now we're looking around the early 90's, with the Division Bell. For this album, Rick Wright was back on as a full member. Not only did he receive his first Floyd songwriting credit since Wish You Were Here, but also sung lead vocals on a song. To quote Nick Mason,

"The album feels much more home-made, very much as a band playing together in one space. I think that Rick in particular felt significantly more integrated in the process this time, compared to Momentary Lapse. It was nice to have him back."

He is completely right. The Divison Bell feels and sounds like Pink Floyd.

Then they did their Pulse tour, which was record-breaking.

In 2006, Gilmour made "On an Island". Rick Wright played on it. Gilmour and Wright both toured with said album as well. In 2008, when Wright died, Gilmour almost started crying when publicly addressing the subject.

On Rick Wright's Wikipedia article, you can directly compare quotes of Gilmour, Mason, and Waters concerning Rick Wright's death. It shouldn't be surprising that Waters' statement is rather flat, robotic, and forced compared to Gilmour's, which feels personal and radiates sadness and emotion.

So in the end, I see Dave Gilmour as a hero who should be recognized for repairing what could of been permanent damage caused by Rodger Waters.

[IamJimmy1992]

People arguing on a Pink Floyd thread. The immaturity never seems to end. It's a thread about music, and one of the greatest bands in history, let's try and keep it that way. For the love of music, please, let's keep it that way.

[kenoloor]

People arguing on a Pink Floyd thread. The immaturity never seems to end. It's a thread about music, and one of the greatest bands in history, let's try and keep it that way. For the love of music, please, let's keep it that way.

There's more to music than music. Yeah, figure that cryptic one out.

[Sugaree]

People arguing on a Pink Floyd thread. The immaturity never seems to end. It's a thread about music, and one of the greatest bands in history, let's try and keep it that way. For the love of music, please, let's keep it that way.

You should find some Pink Floyd fan forums. Shit like this is EVERYWHERE.

[katelynnicole]

Love pink Floyd. My mum loves them and i heard them in the car one time and i loved it. The first song i heard by them was " Bring in the Wall" love it.
They r brilliant.

[nitnigujjar]

What pink floyd albums should i get next?

[Pig on the Wing]

People arguing on a Pink Floyd thread. The immaturity never seems to end. It's a thread about music, and one of the greatest bands in history, let's try and keep it that way. For the love of music, please, let's keep it that way.

Yeah, although I'm all for people having different opinions and not simply going with the most popular.

It does bug me, however, when people completely lose their shit over those who honestly appreciate music on their own choice. That's something that doesn't happen very much in this age.

After Dark Side of the Moon threw Pink Floyd into the world of fame, they were putting on shows of a different scale. This caused a change in the type of audience they were playing for; now many in the crowds were just there to screw around, socialize, cause trouble, get stoned and/or wasted, or anything else but to listen to the music being played. This, right here, is what pissed Rodger Waters off so much, eventually inspiring "The Wall". I couldn't agree more with Waters' frustration with this type of crowd.

We're here to discuss the music, not prove we're better than anyone else. People sometimes need to grow the fuck up and realize that popularity doesn't mean shit when music is good. Accusing bands that were simply light years ahead of their time such as The Beatles or Pink Floyd of only being 'good' because of their massive popularity is a fast method of proving you know nothing about music, and don't care about it either.

[deadpie]

Yeah, although I'm all for people having different opinions and not simply going with the most popular.

It does bug me, however, when people completely lose their shit over those who honestly appreciate music on their own choice. That's something that doesn't happen very much in this age.

After Dark Side of the Moon threw Pink Floyd into the world of fame, they were putting on shows of a different scale. This caused a change in the type of audience they were playing for; now many in the crowds were just there to screw around, socialize, cause trouble, get stoned and/or wasted, or anything else but to listen to the music being played. This, right here, is what pissed Rodger Waters off so much, eventually inspiring "The Wall". I couldn't agree more with Waters' frustration with this type of crowd.

We're here to discuss the music, not prove we're better than anyone else. People sometimes need to grow the fuck up and realize that popularity doesn't mean shit when music is good. Accusing bands that were simply light years ahead of their time such as The Beatles or Pink Floyd of only being 'good' because of their massive popularity is a fast method of proving you know nothing about music, and don't care about it either.

ITT complain about people arguing and attempt to heat it up some more.

I'm not trying to 'prove i'm better'. I never said I didn't like Pink Floyd, which would be the dumbest fucking comment ever on this site. I just hate HATE HATE Roger Waters. That's simply it. And I have a tendency to debate on literally anything. I don't see why you or anyone else is getting so bothered.

Also The Beatles and Pink Floyd weren't the first to do what they were doing. They were just the first ones to get popular doing it.

The part in your post where you said - "people completely lose their shit over those who honestly appreciate music on their own choice. That's something that doesn't happen very much in this age" is wrong. Everyone appreciates music, meaning it's not something special or rare.

And you're right. I know nothing about music. Please, teach me everything you know about music, what I should be listening to, the things I haven't heard before, et al. I'm interested!

You should find some Pink Floyd fan forums. Shit like this is EVERYWHERE.

I joined one when I was thirteen and left after two hours. Holy shit those places are violent.

[embers]

ladies ladies i know this is a heated subject et al but let's keep it chilled, civil, lick each others toes etc etc. In clearer words, don't let this escalate and we're all dandy.

[Genghis Khan]

ladies ladies i know this is a heated subject et al but let's keep it chilled, civil, lick each others toes etc etc. In clearer words, don't let this escalate and we're all dandy.

Looook here broother

who you jivin' with that cosmik debris?

[Pig on the Wing]

ITT complain about people arguing and attempt to heat it up some more.

I'm not trying to 'prove i'm better'. I never said I didn't like Pink Floyd, which would be the dumbest fucking comment ever on this site. I just hate HATE HATE Roger Waters. That's simply it. And I have a tendency to debate on literally anything. I don't see why you or anyone else is getting so bothered.

Also The Beatles and Pink Floyd weren't the first to do what they were doing. They were just the first ones to get popular doing it.

The part in your post where you said - "people completely lose their shit over those who honestly appreciate music on their own choice. That's something that doesn't happen very much in this age" is wrong. Everyone appreciates music, meaning it's not something special or rare.

And you're right. I know nothing about music. Please, teach me everything you know about music, what I should be listening to, the things I haven't heard before, et al. I'm interested!



I joined one when I was thirteen and left after two hours. Holy shit those places are violent.

*AHEM!* So ANYWAYS, back on topic:

So far the discussion on this thread has mostly centered around mid to late Pink
Floyd material. What do you guys think about their earlier stuff. Do you enjoy listening to their Syd-era stuff? What about after Syd was dropped but before Dark Side? I personally love their earlier stuff almost as much as their later, more famous work.

[Sugaree]

*AHEM!* So ANYWAYS, back on topic:

So far the discussion on this thread has mostly centered around mid to late Pink
Floyd material. What do you guys think about their earlier stuff. Do you enjoy listening to their Syd-era stuff? What about after Syd was dropped but before Dark Side? I personally love their earlier stuff almost as much as their later, more famous work.

I think everything before Dark Side is highly underrated, especially "Piper". That album has got to be one of the highest points for the British underground psychedelic scene of the mid to late 60s. It's a shame Barrett went under the way he did. I swear, in "Jugband Blues", you can literally hear him going insane.

[BlokeMan]

Awesome band. Gilmour is a God among mere musicians. Pink Floyd deserve to be recognized as one of the greatest bands in the history of music as far as i am concerned.

[Pig on the Wing]

I think everything before Dark Side is highly underrated, especially "Piper". That album has got to be one of the highest points for the British underground psychedelic scene of the mid to late 60s. It's a shame Barrett went under the way he did. I swear, in "Jugband Blues", you can literally hear him going insane.

Jugband Blues is impossible for me to listen to without being emotionally affected. Syd knew he was going crazy. He wasn't stupid, and he wasn't enjoying the descent into madness.

We feel a certain way about Syd's state of mind when the song 'loses it' and then 'recovers'. This is what attracts me to this band so much. At every point in their history, their music so accurately reflects what is happening to them and what they're feeling.

Also, "Poles Apart", an absolutely amazing song on "The Division Bell", has a similar moment of 'losing it'; wouldn't you agree?

[Abyssal Echo]

pink floyd is cool....I like the walll & the dark side of the moon......although rite now I feel like I'm on the dark side of the moon....:confused:

[deadpie]

You know, I'm often one to criticize and say people should listen to more than Dark Side and The Wall. I stopped liking The Wall about two years ago, maybe because I wasn't with my Ex-therapist anymore (Whom was a huge Pink Floyd fan). Recently I listened to some of it and gained twice as much of an appreciation for it as I had when I was a lot younger. It's really genius how the entire thing was put together. Not just the story, but every mother fuckin instrument tied together including vocals. I think it's perfect.

Also, check out Syd's solo albums (There's three of them).

itt u jelly i saw echoes live and you won't ever see that song live now

[DaylightDusk]

Chilling with my bros in a room, got about half a brick of weed, and pink floyd playing.... Best times of my life i swear!

[Sugaree]

Also, "Poles Apart", an absolutely amazing song on "The Division Bell", has a similar moment of 'losing it'; wouldn't you agree?

I'd be inclined to agree if it really WERE about that. "Poles Apart" is more about regaining what you've lost rather than being left alone and wondering where everyone went.

[uncleK]

huge fan right here....

[Rage of the Menace]

I LOVE Pink Floyd. Really good music.