Oil

[Professional Russian]

I have been told that we export almost as much oil as we import. Why dont we just keep it seriously gas prices would go down and we would all be happy.

[Spook]

I don't know....we're just a gassy country!

[screamtobeheard]

I have been told that we export almost as much oil as we import.

Where did you hear that? I'm not disputing it (yet). I'm just curious.

[Professional Russian]

Where did you hear that? I'm not disputing it (yet). I'm just curious.

Well my dad told last night that we export more oil than import. than my social studies teacher told me we nearly export more than we bring in.

[antiabort]

i don't know....we're just a gassy country!

ba dum tss

[TheMatrix]

Well my dad told last night that we export more oil than import. than my social studies teacher told me we nearly export more than we bring in.
My dad told me that all electronics in the USA are made in the USA. Oh, and my social studies teacher told me the same thing.

Your argument is invalid. People can tell you anything -- does that mean it's true? I'll give you a conspiracy theory: the government of [-]the People's Republic of[/-] America wants you to believe that, to ease people's concern.
Someone in the CIA told me that. ;)

[Professional Russian]

What if it were true wouldnt the US get more money form keeping the oil we have is importing the way to go. Because if we get into a war with iran the oil prices will Sky rocket
in price

[screamtobeheard]

My dad told me that all electronics in the USA are made in the USA. Oh, and my social studies teacher told me the same thing.

Your argument is invalid. People can tell you anything -- does that mean it's true? I'll give you a conspiracy theory: the government of [-]the People's Republic of[/-] America wants you to believe that, to ease people's concern.
Someone in the CIA told me that. ;)

Agreed. Thanks for making that point before I was able to.

What if it were true wouldnt the US get more money form keeping the oil we have is importing the way to go. Because if we get into a war with iran the oil prices will Sky rocket in price

Yes. But it isn't true, so why weigh the options we don't have?

[Professional Russian]

what about the alaskan pipeline why not open that up again wouldnt that help alittle

[RoseyCadaver]

Hey guys,here is an idea, why don't we stop using oil,?Or cut down our gas admissions? Hell, even learn to save power.

[Professional Russian]

Hey guys,here is an idea, why don't we stop using oil,?Or cut down our gas admissions? Hell, even learn to save power.
If you use moonshine and pork fat you could actually perfectly run a car

[StoppingTime]

I have been told that we export almost as much oil as we import. Why dont we just keep it seriously gas prices would go down and we would all be happy.

Sources, please. You can be told anything, it's meaningless without evidence.


I don't know....we're just a gassy country!

:rolleyes:



Well my dad told last night that we export more oil than import. than my social studies teacher told me we nearly export more than we bring in.

SOURCE!


My dad told me that all electronics in the USA are made in the USA. Oh, and my social studies teacher told me the same thing.

Your argument is invalid. People can tell you anything -- does that mean it's true? I'll give you a conspiracy theory: the government of [-]the People's Republic of[/-] America wants you to believe that, to ease people's concern.
Someone in the CIA told me that. ;)

Exactly this ^^^

What if it were true wouldnt the US get more money form keeping the oil we have is importing the way to go. Because if we get into a war with iran the oil prices will Sky rocket
in price

We aren't getting into a war with Iran any time soon buddy. Where'd you hear that?




what about the alaskan pipeline why not open that up again wouldnt that help alittle

Do you even know what that is? What it would require?

[screamtobeheard]

What about the alaskan pipeline why not open that up again wouldnt that help a little.
The amount of help it would give us would likely be negligible due to the consequences this would bring.

Hey guys,here is an idea, why don't we stop using oil,?Or cut down our gas admissions? Hell, even learn to save power.
Yes, that's a fantastic idea. Let me know when you engineer the cars that can do it. I'm all for cutting down emissions and saving power, I really am (I'm an environmentalist), but it's easier said than done.

If you use moonshine and pork fat you could actually perfectly run a car
Where'd you hear that one?

[Professional Russian]

We aren't getting into a war with Iran any time soon buddy. Where'd you hear that?

My social studies teacher has a current event thing when we come in to his room and he explains it all and thats where i heard. Either way it said that iran said we weren't allowed to put a Air craft carrier into the persian gulf and we are going to heres a link http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57351634/iran-warns-u.s-to-back-off-from-persian-gulf/

[StoppingTime]

My social studies teacher has a current event thing when we come in to his room and he explains it all and thats where i heard. Either way it said that iran said we weren't allowed to put a Air craft carrier into the persian gulf and we are going to heres a link http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57351634/iran-warns-u.s-to-back-off-from-persian-gulf/

And you think that'll start a war? They've threatened us before.

[Professional Russian]

Where'd you hear that one?

I actually up with that. Now before you guys start harassing me about how stupid it is listen. Moon shine is almost 100% alcohol if not watered down. straight Alcohol is very flammable so if you put it in a car gas tank it would run. The pork fat is to lubricate the pistons and all other moving parts. Like they did back in the day with big diesel engines. (this how i figured out how to fix the oil crisis and yes i know moon shining is illegal )

And you think that'll start a war? They've threatened us before.

Thats just what i personally think.

[RoseyCadaver]

Yes, that's a fantastic idea. Let me know when you engineer the cars that can do it. I'm all for cutting down emissions and saving power, I really am (I'm an environmentalist), but it's easier said than done.



They have cars that run purely on electricity (http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/10/27-electric-cars-companies-ready-to-take-over-the-road/). And you can you use solar power to charge it. The only problem is those cars are rather pricey.

[screamtobeheard]

I actually up with that. Now before you guys start harassing me about how stupid it is listen. Moon shine is almost 100% alcohol if not watered down. straight Alcohol is very flammable so if you put it in a car gas tank it would run. The pork fat is to lubricate the pistons and all other moving parts. Like they did back in the day with big diesel engines. (this how i figured out how to fix the oil crisis and yes i know moon shining is illegal )

Understandable, but the problem is, the cars capable of running on the new fuel type must be funded, engineered, built, and then sold...to everyone. If it was that easy to solve the oil crisis, it would no longer be an oil crisis. It is possible to fuel a car using vegetables. Even salt water. But just because something is possible does not mean it is feasible.

They have cars that run purely on electricity (http://venturebeat.com/2008/01/10/27-electric-cars-companies-ready-to-take-over-the-road/). And you can you use solar power to charge it. The only problem is those cars are rather pricey.

That, and electricity causes other problems for the environment that scientists are trying to eliminate.

Please don't double post. Use the "Edit" or "Multi-quote" buttons if you have something to add. ~TheMatrix

[StoppingTime]

For good measure. (http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/12/31/iran_backs_off_threat_to_close_strait_of_hormuz/)

[Professional Russian]

Understandable, but the problem is, the cars capable of running on the new fuel type must be funded, engineered, built, and then sold...to everyone. If it was that easy to solve the oil crisis, it would no longer be an oil crisis. It is possible to fuel a car using vegetables. Even salt water. But just because something is possible does not mean it is feasible.

I know but i was just sitting in school one and it just hit me. The cars we already have could run off of it.

For good measure. (http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/12/31/iran_backs_off_threat_to_close_strait_of_hormuz/)

Sorry never saw that

[StoppingTime]

I know but i was just sitting in school one and it just hit me. The cars we already have could run off of it.

No they can't... We don't yet have the technology to implement it 100%, and if we did, like others' said, it would cost millions.

[screamtobeheard]

I know but i was just sitting in school one and it just hit me. The cars we already have could run off of it.

The cars we have now can't even handle a change from unleaded gasoline to premium. How could the cars we have now run off of it?

[Professional Russian]

No they can't... We don't yet have the technology to implement it 100%, and if we did, like others' said, it would cost millions.
This what people that made in the 70s did if the didnt have money for gas so yes its possible.

The cars we have now can't even handle a change from unleaded gasoline to premium. How could the cars we have now run off of it?

The older cars could

[screamtobeheard]

This what people that made in the 70s did if the didnt have money for gas so yes its possible.

In the 70s. Do you have any idea how different the technology used in cars in the 70s was from what we use now?

[Professional Russian]

In the 70s. Do you have any idea how different the technology used in cars in the 70s was from what we use now?

It isnt very hard to get cars from the 70s

[screamtobeheard]

It isnt very hard to get cars from the 70s

And you're expecting people to just trade in their nice, new, comfortable 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 Mustangs, Porsches, Jeeps, Tahoes, etc...for significantly worse quality cars from the 1970s?

[Professional Russian]

And you're expecting people to just trade in their nice, new, comfortable 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 Mustangs, Porsches, Jeeps, Tahoes, etc...for significantly worse quality cars from the 1970s?

I'm not trying to be dick or anything but I would much rather have car from the 70s and 80s than what we have to day like my deuce and a half its from the 60s but still works fine

[screamtobeheard]

I'm not trying to be dick or anything but I would much rather have car from the 70s and 80s than what we have to day like my deuce and a half its from the 60s but still works fine

But that's you personally. I'm not saying what you're suggesting is a bad idea, and that it wouldn't work for some people. I'm simply saying it's unfeasible with the way our society is. In a perfect world, all cars would run on salt water and everyone would have exactly the car they like. But it's not a perfect world.

[Professional Russian]

But that's you personally. I'm not saying what you're suggesting is a bad idea, and that it wouldn't work for some people. I'm simply saying it's unfeasible with the way our society is. In a perfect world, all cars would run on salt water and everyone would have exactly the car they like. But it's not a perfect world.

I agree everybody has different views. I'm just saying that what im saying is from my prospective. Good night VT (PS I think i might make a thread on ways to fix the oil crisis.

[Gordo]

electricity doesn't cause the environment any significant problems.

For oil, we need better fuel economy. Don't need SUVs and 4 passenger vehicles as much as we think. Rising gas prices would actually help. People would drive less and buy smaller cars that use less. If America paid what the Europeans do for gas, more people would choose to buy cars that got very good gas mileage.

[screamtobeheard]

electricity doesn't cause the environment any significant problems.
It does enough damage to cause us to look for alternative energy sources like solar, wind, and water energy.

For oil, we need better fuel economy. Don't need SUVs and 4 passenger vehicles as much as we think. Rising gas prices would actually help. People would drive less and buy smaller cars that use less. If America paid what the Europeans do for gas, more people would choose to buy cars that got very good gas mileage.
I kind of agree with this, although I don't think we can really afford to pay what Europeans do and still have a semi-functional economy.

[RoseyCadaver]

It does enough damage to cause us to look for alternative energy sources like solar, wind, and water energy.
Yeah, you're 100% right. We should stick to oil and pay 3.50$ a gallon instead of searching for an alternative source we could all use like solar energy. Besides, it's not like we're to ever run out of oil or anything like that.http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0602-oilpsill/8054584-1-eng-US/0602-oilpsill_full_600.jpghttp://www.warmdebate.com/sites/default/files/Megha/BP-oil-spill-pelican-2.jpg
http://www.pollutionissues.com/images/paz_02_img0237.jpg





That, and electricity causes other problems for the environment that scientists are trying to eliminate.

You mean getting the electricity to power the car, or electricity itself? If you mean the electricity by itself; I would love to see where you read that.

[backtobackawesome]

o dun diddly if america needs oil why doesnt it just ask me

[MisterSix]

And you're expecting people to just trade in their nice, new, comfortable 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 Mustangs, Porsches, Jeeps, Tahoes, etc...for significantly worse quality cars from the 1970s?

If I bought a new many thousand dollar car, I would not get rid of the engine and convert it into an electric car.
Thats the whole reason why they use old 70s cars


For oil, we need better fuel economy. Don't need SUVs and 4 passenger vehicles as much as we think. Rising gas prices would actually help. People would drive less and buy smaller cars that use less. If America paid what the Europeans do for gas, more people would choose to buy cars that got very good gas mileage.

Tax on petrol. What an original idea.
Whats that? The NZ govt has already done that and it just means the price of EVERYTHING goes up.
Did you know it costs petrol to send a letter or for a local butcher to get more produce.