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Sporadica
January 4th, 2012, 04:32 AM
Hey question to all the (insert denomination of christianity here) and I am wondering if you don't choose to be atheist/agnostic/bhuddist/muslim/jewish but you don't decide to be christian, you basically say "i don't give 1 fuck, i won't have a religion nor would I give a fuck about fighting a religion" is that a sin?

Darkness.
January 4th, 2012, 06:03 AM
I don't see how that would be a sin, so i am going to say no its not a sin.

BFG9001
January 4th, 2012, 07:26 AM
apathetic is the term.

kenoloor
January 4th, 2012, 10:21 AM
If one is apathetic, one doesn't care about whether or not it's a sin.
If one cares about whether or not it's a sin, one is not apathetic.

screamtobeheard
January 4th, 2012, 11:02 AM
I am no longer Christian, but I know the ins and outs of Catholicism and generic Christianity better than a lot of Christians (13 years of Catholic school).

No, it is not a sin. Christians believe that matters is what you do in life. In theory, being Christian is ideal, but they do not believe that it is sinful not to be, or not to declare a religion. Christians believe that God is understanding to those who do not believe the truth.

Note: I am not Christian, and I do not uphold these beliefs. I am simply relaying facts.

kenoloor
January 4th, 2012, 11:05 AM
I am no longer Christian, but I know the ins and outs of Catholicism and generic Christianity better than a lot of Christians (13 years of Catholic school).

No, it is not a sin. Christians believe that matters is what you do in life. In theory, being Christian is ideal, but they do not believe that it is sinful not to be, or not to declare a religion. Christians believe that God is understanding to those who do not believe the truth.

Note: I am not Christian, and I do not uphold these beliefs. I am simply relaying facts.

Luke 12:10, "And everyone that says a word against the Son of Man, that will be forgiven; But he that blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will not be forgiven

You just committed the unforgiveable sin in your post.

screamtobeheard
January 4th, 2012, 11:31 AM
Luke 12:10, "And everyone that says a word against the Son of Man, that will be forgiven; But he that blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will not be forgiven

You just committed the unforgiveable sin in your post.
I did not commit the unforgivable sin in my post. I committed the unforgivable sin in my life's choices. Thanks for pointing it out, though.

PerpetualImperfexion
January 5th, 2012, 12:21 AM
I am no longer Christian, but I know the ins and outs of Catholicism and generic Christianity better than a lot of Christians (13 years of Catholic school).

No, it is not a sin. Christians believe that matters is what you do in life. In theory, being Christian is ideal, but they do not believe that it is sinful not to be, or not to declare a religion. Christians believe that God is understanding to those who do not believe the truth.

Note: I am not Christian, and I do not uphold these beliefs. I am simply relaying facts.

I'm in the same position as you, only a lutheran, and I was taught all those who do not believe are damned to hell... Ha glad I got outta that shit. Hmmm it seems my religion teacher lied to me when he said all denominations believe the same thing, for the most part. It seems to me that "believing in jesus christ as your savior and lord" is kind of the foundation of the christian church...

screamtobeheard
January 5th, 2012, 10:32 AM
I'm in the same position as you, only a lutheran, and I was taught all those who do not believe are damned to hell... Ha glad I got outta that shit. Hmmm it seems my religion teacher lied to me when he said all denominations believe the same thing, for the most part. It seems to me that "believing in jesus christ as your savior and lord" is kind of the foundation of the christian church...

It is one of the central beliefs; however, most authentically religious people will tell you that even if you do not believe in Jesus as your savior, you can be "saved." That's not to say some Christians aren't going to tell you you're damned, but the official doctrines do not condemn those who do not believe the core beliefs of Christianity by default. It all depends on what kind of life you lead. In theory.

PerpetualImperfexion
January 5th, 2012, 04:39 PM
I believe one of the most well known verses in the bible disproves your statement:

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16

From the way I read it, my understanding is this verse, by saying those who believe shall not perish but have eternal life, implies that anyone who does not believe shall perish and not have eternal life, no? I honestly could care less if my closest friend told me I was going to burn in hell. It doesn't matter to me, because I find every part of creation to be fictitious. It would be no different than me telling a christian "You're going to rot in a box, six feet under the ground for eternity".

antiabort
January 5th, 2012, 05:11 PM
If god is real I doubt he'd give a fuck what your religious beliefs are.

screamtobeheard
January 5th, 2012, 07:23 PM
From the way I read it, my understanding is this verse, by saying those who believe shall not perish but have eternal life, implies that anyone who does not believe shall perish and not have eternal life, no?
I don't believe that's necessarily implied...

If god is real I doubt he'd give a fuck what your religious beliefs are.
Agreed.

jockguy14
January 5th, 2012, 09:36 PM
Read Revelations chapter 3:14-21. In there God is talking to people that are not for God, but not against him.

I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

The original translation says that God is about to "vomit you out of my mouth." God would rather you pick a side, than be wishy-washy about the whole thing.

PerpetualImperfexion
January 5th, 2012, 11:55 PM
I don't believe that's necessarily implied...


Agreed.

Look it makes no difference to me what you believe, as long as you don't hide behind your beliefs. The only reason I'm arguing with you is because what I was taught is much different than what you were. I think we need to look for bible verses that prove one of our positions. I am going to take a guess and say it won't matter though, because the bible is so contradictory, I could find a couple verses that defend both sides. Besides being taught that all those who do not believe, I was also taught that men on earth have no right to judge where someone will spend their afterlife. You would be suprised how often a 7th grade class will ask "Well if I do this will I go to hell? My teacher's response was always "that is not for me to judge, God knows what's in your heart, etc ,etc". So, to the OP, the bible is very contradictory, and therefore it would be hard to give an answer based on the bible. That being said it isn't for me or anyone else to judge where you are going based on what I was taught.

This is all assuming their is a god, specifically the Christian god. I do not believe there is any type of higher power.

WoShiDavid95
January 6th, 2012, 12:39 AM
I would say no... I'm a Christian, but I find that Christianity is full of contradictions and loopholes. For example, God supposedly loves everybody, but why are homosexuals condemned? Exactly.