Homosexuality is a sin

[Thylacine]

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By the way I'm gay xD. I don't support the views in this video. Just an example of militant Christianity.

[AppealToReason]

Use [youtube]WtbI5YH34-0[*/youtube] minus the *.

[Fruit_Tart.]

First of all... He's definitely still gay. :l

Second of all... I have a father, I will always have a father, and no male in my family has ever sexually abused me. That just pissed me off. >:l

Third I enjoy cookies, does that make me sinful as well? What about going swimming or spending time with my family? I don't do drugs nor do I do anything considered "bad" as he says, except for the sex part. XP

This guy has no straight-foward approach. He's just contradicting himself, especially with the oh so manly voice of his. (He sounds like my seven year old cousin)

I'm pretty sure the bible wouldn't directly say that all those things he stated are bad, but wasting man's seed... Psh.. Majority of boys do that after hitting puberty with masturbation.

This man is stupid... T__T

[anonymous53]

Not to sound horrid, but my gaydar is going off. He's still gay, but he's just supressing those urges.

....I just can't make it through this video

[AppealToReason]

First of all... He's definitely still gay. :l


Oh, no doubt. Dude's denial will bite him in his gay ass and he'll either harm himself or go out and have a big gay orgy to make up for all the time he is wasting trying to be straight. I'd place money on it. <.<

[Fruit_Tart.]

Oh, no doubt. Dude's denial will bite him in his gay ass and he'll either harm himself or go out and have a big gay orgy to make up for all the time he is wasting trying to be straight. I'd place money on it. <.<
AH-Hahahahaha! That made me laugh so hard! :D Best one of the night. :)

I really wish men would stop trying to hide who they are and just be satisfied with what they have. He's trying wayyy too hard to be someone he's not.

[teenageapplelover]

DAMMIT I HATE THE MEMBERS OF MY OWN FAITH SOMETIMES.

Not all Christians are like this. Please know that. I am a Christian and I truly believe you can be gay and Christian with no problem at all! Know that this video is made by the militant fundamental religious right and not by the majority of Christians. Please, feel free to message me for more information about christianity or what the bible really says about homosexuality.

Second of all, that gentleman is still gay. You can't heal someones sexual orientation....even if you punch them in the chest with the power of god.... (did you guys hear about that?)

Know, above all, that Jesus loves you no matter who you are or what you've done.

[Vonn]

Lost? Hn, nope. I actually feel perfectly in place. Fatherless? Nope, I've got a dad and he's pretty cool.

Nothing in this video that hasn't been proclaimed a trillion times. When will they let this go?

that scarf is so gay

[rockNroll]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=866yx-Znm8A
Dan Tosh did a bit about this... Pretty funny!

[Maxxie]

DAMMIT I HATE THE MEMBERS OF MY OWN FAITH SOMETIMES.

Not all Christians are like this. Please know that. I am a Christian and I truly believe you can be gay and Christian with no problem at all! Know that this video is made by the militant fundamental religious right and not by the majority of Christians. Please, feel free to message me for more information about christianity or what the bible really says about homosexuality.

Second of all, that gentleman is still gay. You can't heal someones sexual orientation....even if you punch them in the chest with the power of god.... (did you guys hear about that?)

Know, above all, that Jesus loves you no matter who you are or what you've done.

What is this? A CHRISTian not a Christian? Impossible.

Do realize, however, that your faith explicitly decrys homosexuality, not only in the Old Testament but in the new aswell (somewhere between Romans 21 and 26, I think).

EDIT: Jesus of Nazareth was a genuinely good man, or at least his teachings were. However, the Christian faith (New Testamentine) allows people to be homophobic and bigoted because in your Holy Book it is anti-homosexuality. HOWEVER, Jesus never preached a word about gays. So... Yeah.

[teenageapplelover]

What is this? A CHRISTian not a Christian? Impossible.

Do realize, however, that your faith explicitly decrys homosexuality, not only in the Old Testament but in the new aswell (somewhere between Romans 21 and 26, I think).

EDIT: Jesus of Nazareth was a genuinely good man, or at least his teachings were. However, the Christian faith (New Testamentine) allows people to be homophobic and bigoted because in your Holy Book it is anti-homosexuality. HOWEVER, Jesus never preached a word about gays. So... Yeah.
Ha! I appreciate being called a CHRISTian. Sincerely, thank you.

We can talk anout the old testament argument, if you want, but even christians know its weak because they condemn male homosexuality, but not female homosexuality, they also condemn things like discussing sexual organs and contacting semen while allowing males to have prostitutes and multiple wives. No, the old testaments verses condemning it are not as powerful, simply because they are from the OT. So let's talk new testament. Paul, in Romans and Corinthians (i thiink one other place too...I could find the verses, if you care) condemns homosexuality in a couple of contexts. First of all, he condemns it when it is sexual promiscuity, comparatively to drunken orgies, and etc, which Jesus condemned as well. Second, he condemns homosexuality thinking it is unnatural. Paul did not understand homosexuality as an orientation, as a natural way of thinking to some. He only knew it as heterosexuals doing something unnatural and henceforth wrong. The bible doesn't condemn homosexual orientation. There are two good articles I have read about this that I could link you to if you are interested.

But, you are right, on a face level, without thoughtfully and prayerfully examining the texts, our holy bible allows homophobia and bigoted hate. But with careful examination, you will see that this is not the true message of the bible. The true message of the bible is all about Christs love, and Christ does not love spewing hate.

[Efflorescence]

What is this? A CHRISTian not a Christian? Impossible.

Do realize, however, that your faith explicitly decrys homosexuality, not only in the Old Testament but in the new aswell (somewhere between Romans 21 and 26, I think).

EDIT: Jesus of Nazareth was a genuinely good man, or at least his teachings were. However, the Christian faith (New Testamentine) allows people to be homophobic and bigoted because in your Holy Book it is anti-homosexuality. HOWEVER, Jesus never preached a word about gays. So... Yeah.

I would like to point out that being a Christian (or CHRISTian or whatever the hell it is:P) doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything the Bible says. I chose Christianity because I agree with the majority of its teachings but not with everything.
It's like having a friend in a way. You choose a friend because you have loads of things in common. However, does that mean that you have to have everything in common? It is impossible. But although I do not consider homosexuality wrong, I still consider myself a Christian because I agree with the basic tenets of the Christian faith.

[foof1]

You might find this forum interesting. I do not support it at all but I was temped to join so that I could shove their words down their throats.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=71227

[AppealToReason]

You might find this forum interesting. I do not support it at all but I was temped to join so that I could shove their words down their throats.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=71227

Isn't that a parody website or am I thinking of something else?

[embers]

Isn't that a parody website or am I thinking of something else?

Yup, it's satire about hardcore Christians, just like ChristWire (http://christwire.org/).

[jockguy14]

DAMMIT I HATE THE MEMBERS OF MY OWN FAITH SOMETIMES.

Not all Christians are like this. Please know that. I am a Christian and I truly believe you can be gay and Christian with no problem at all! Know that this video is made by the militant fundamental religious right and not by the majority of Christians. Please, feel free to message me for more information about christianity or what the bible really says about homosexuality.

Second of all, that gentleman is still gay. You can't heal someones sexual orientation....even if you punch them in the chest with the power of god.... (did you guys hear about that?)

Know, above all, that Jesus loves you no matter who you are or what you've done.

Agreed, you can definitely be a Christian and gay, I think. As the man in the video said that they are damned to hell, that's not correct. THe only unforgivable sin is denying God.

"30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but jthe blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." Matthew 12:30-32

Now, when you become a Christian, you are still supposed to try and eliminate sin in your life and live more Christ-like.

[kenoloor]

Agreed, you can definitely be a Christian and gay, I think. As the man in the video said that they are damned to hell, that's not correct. THe only unforgivable sin is denying God.

"30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but jthe blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." Matthew 12:30-32

Now, when you become a Christian, you are still supposed to try and eliminate sin in your life and live more Christ-like.

Problems arise when people pick and choose what is a sin and what isn't.

[teenageapplelover]

I would like to point out that being a Christian (or CHRISTian or whatever the hell it is:P) doesn't mean that you have to agree with everything the Bible says. I chose Christianity because I agree with the majority of its teachings but not with everything.
It's like having a friend in a way. You choose a friend because you have loads of things in common. However, does that mean that you have to have everything in common? It is impossible. But although I do not consider homosexuality wrong, I still consider myself a Christian because I agree with the basic tenets of the Christian faith.
Do you truly believe Christ is your savior? Do you feel like you have been accepted into his love? True Christianity isn't just picking that religious standard and following its rules. Honest question, no judgement.

Agreed, you can definitely be a Christian and gay, I think.

Now, when you become a Christian, you are still supposed to try and eliminate sin in your life and live more Christ-like.
Are you still suggesting homosexuality is a sin, then? Or is the second point of becoming more Christ like supposed to be separate from the claim? I don't think homosexuality is a sin, just to clarify.

Problems arise when people pick and choose what is a sin and what isn't.
I completely agree. I am not doing that. I am simply reading and interpreting God's word.

[Invincible]

There are all sorts of "Christians" out there. There are many species of fruit and animals, likewise Christians can have very opposing views.

This guy is a fundamentalist. In simple terms, he's weird. He doesn't represent the true movement of Christians.


As a Christian, I wouldn't judge. Not my job at all. My logic is that if guys were created to be in love with other guys, God would never have bothered creating Eve. God created a man and woman to meet and bond. To grow in a relationship. I don't know about you guys but I find it quite rare to see male fishes having sex in the sea. Really..

I wouldn't deem it a sin, but homosexuality was definitely never a "natural" thing.

I rebuke any Christian that dares damn anyone to hell. Those are corrupt views. Likewise to anyone who judges every Christian in the world based on experiences with one hell of a fucked up cunt.

[Vonn]

This guy is a fundamentalist. In simple terms, he's weird. He doesn't represent the true movement of Christians.

Does anybody even know what the true movement of Christians is anymore? I'm really curious.

As a Christian, I wouldn't judge. Not my job at all.

Thanks.

My logic is that if guys were created to be in love with other guys, God would never have bothered creating Eve.

What's the difference between two men/women being together, and a heterosexual couple that doesn't ever produce a child?

God created a man and woman to meet and bond. To grow in a relationship. I don't know about you guys but I find it quite rare to see male fishes having sex in the sea. Really..

How often do you watch fish?

I wouldn't deem it a sin, but homosexuality was definitely never a "natural" thing.

Plen-ty of animals. It occurs in nature, so it's perfectly natural.

[teenageapplelover]

I don't know about you guys but I find it quite rare to see male fishes having sex in the sea. Really..

I wouldn't deem it a sin, but homosexuality was definitely never a "natural" thing.

I thoroughly disagree. Are you suggesting that people who are gay now chose to be that way? If so, that is a very primitive view. Scientists and psychologists are very sure that homosexuality is developed in infancy–whether genetics or post-natal, it was not a choice. Hence, homosexuality is natural for homosexuals.


What's the difference between two men/women being together, and a heterosexual couple that doesn't ever produce a child?

There is no difference....hence why I argue what I do.

[antiabort]

hurrrr durrr all christians are bad

[Vonn]

hurrrr durrr all christians are bad

That is so not the point or the implication and you know it.

[Rayquaza]

What kind of bullshit is this?

Sorry, I get wound up with this. I hate homophobia. It's the worst disease. We need to surround these people with a pro-homosexual parade. Make them see sense. My friend is a christian, and his best friend is gay. It's different for everyone.

"They need to be quarantined"
- STFU already, you need to be qurantined from your attitude.

[Gordo]

I think there are a lot of church goers who think they are Christians, but don't have a clue of what it's really about and that leads to them being judgmental of others, but wanting acceptance and grace for themselves. A lot of church goers focus on following rules of their church rather than attempting to understand what Jesus Christ was saying and doing and turning yourself over to him. Without that, it's just people attempting to follow rules they can't follow, pointing out when others don't follow the rules they can't follow and pretty much doing the opposite of what Christ wants. All in the name of religion, which Jesus actually hates and he doesn't hate much.