Do you hate Israel or the Israeli?

[Thylacine]

I often here people say "I hate (insert hated country)!" Countries like Russia, the US, Israel, Iran, etc depending on your politics. But I have a question and I will use Israel as an example but I don't just mean Israel in this thread I mean the countries above too and more if you like those are just examples and I'm not saying I hate them.

When you say: "I hate Israel!" Are you saying you hate the Israeli government or are you saying you hate all Israelis? Do you blame the bad things a country has done on it's citizens too?

My thoughts...

I think it's important when ones says "I hate ..." that one makes a distinction. One doesn't hate the people of that country, one hates the politics and bad men in charge. When one starts hating the people and blaming them for the sins of their leaders one has a problem. The Holocaust happened when the Jews were blamed for all of Germany's problems just because they were successful businessmen and the like. People are always looking for things to hate and that's normal. I am not particularly fond of Israel but I don't hate Israelis. I just hate/dislike the Israeli government for their occupation of Palestinian lands and their mistreatment of Palestinians.

I have Jewish blood about 5 generations back, they were not practicing Jews but they had a Hebrew surname so they came from Jewish roots. So I do not hate the Israeli, I hate the Netanyahus of Israel who will not make peace. It's not the Israelis' fault it's their leaders.
When one stops hating the political establishment and starts hating the Jew one has a problem in my opinion and things like the Holocaust happen.

What are your thoughts about this topic?

This topic is NOT about the Israeli conflict I am just using that as an example. What I want to know is when you as a person say "I hate ...!" Do you hate the Government or the people?

[Sugaree]

For me, it's the government. It's easy enough to imagine that the government does not reflect the people in a country.

[Genghis Khan]

For me, it's the government. It's easy enough to imagine that the government does not reflect the people in a country.

Pretty much this. I have nothing against Israelis, Jews or even Israel as a country, I just don't agree with what the government is doing.

The only time I say I hate people of a particular country is when I talk about my own. Sure, the government's corrupt too, but the people are backward, conservative, confused cunts.

[joshtheguitard]

For me, it's the government. It's easy enough to imagine that the government does not reflect the people in a country.

+1

I live in a very racist area and hear a lot of that kind of thing -animosity toward the individuals of another country or another place of any kind for that matter...Never quite understood it.

[Azunite]

I love Jews. They are a hard working folk and they used to rule the world ( banking, trading, etc. Maybe they still do? ) therefore people hated them. Jews in Ottoman Empire were on good terms with the Turks. It is the government we hate

[Sporadica]

I hate more is this idea that if you challenge or question anything said by a jew you're an anti semite.

In social class we had to debate and when someone mentioned 6 million jews killed in the holocaust I asked for info, I wanted statistics, I wanted someone (which in a debates you're supposed to learn that to back up your info) and I was called an anti-semite.

Well to say I blasted away the competition by saying they should've mentioned the millions of ukrainians and russians killed in the holodomer.

[aperson444]

I hate the Israeli government and the vast majority of American Zionists (especially the Christian Zionist coalitions in the USA). I've known many Israeli people, and they are quite pleasant individuals. So are many Jews as well. However, I do not believe Israel should exist as the status quo state.

[antiabort]

i don't like their government.

[Invincible]

I don't hate anyone for their countries or governments.
I don't hate, in fact. Hate is one hell of a strong word. It's the direct opposite of Love and you don't exactly spread love that very much.

What I rebuke are extremist views. Extremist views exist beyond Islam rule. There are certain breeds of Catholics. Perhaps North Koreans could be described as that. People who are ruled by oppression. People who have lost their own sense and mind due to fear, brainwashing, etc. that turn them from a human to a "unit". These people have power without knowledge.

I don't hate Israel. I see many things to come from that place. Generations of ongoing war is a clear sign of something sacred lying beyond the conflict between government and civilians.

Israelis are generally nice people. Those not absorbed into extremist views are just like every other person. They were born the same way and have every bone, muscle and tissue that's in your body. It's like going to an apple tree and hating on one fruit because it's growing on the bottom and not the top of the tree.

[Jupiter]

I try to steer away from hatred... but
mostly if i ever say I hate them I really don't mean it.

[StoppingTime]

Israelis are generally nice people.

This actually really isn't true ;) They can be quite rude...

Anyway, what exactly about the governments don't you like?

[Gordo]

the gov't are the gamers and people are the players

so don't hate the playa, hate the game

[Invincible]

This actually really isn't true ;) They can be quite rude...

Anyway, what exactly about the governments don't you like?

How much do the manners of Israelis defer from the manners of Americans, Europeans, Asians and so?
Sure there are cultural differences, behavioural differences and all. At the end of the day, there'd be too little difference to justify any hatred towards the race, as a whole.

[StoppingTime]

How much do the manners of Israelis defer from the manners of Americans, Europeans, Asians and so?
Sure there are cultural differences, behavioural differences and all. At the end of the day, there'd be too little difference to justify any hatred towards the race, as a whole.

Its stereotypical of them, and I was kidding ;)