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MrPeace
May 21st, 2007, 04:30 PM
why cant we just stop and have world peace...i think its sooooo easy that people make it that much harder to achieve....we should just all stop fighting....its getting reallllly old in the world...
Bobby
May 21st, 2007, 04:37 PM
Some people have a desire for conflict. That is why we don't have world peace.
Whisper
May 21st, 2007, 04:39 PM
because peace put simply
is an illusion
Until theres an enemy that humanity as a whole can unite against
we will always fight eachother
part of being human
Aηdy
May 21st, 2007, 04:57 PM
Everyone has different opinions so the government can't please everyone.
Ironic Infidel In England
May 21st, 2007, 05:21 PM
Some people want the same thing. (Palestine and Israel)
Hyper
May 21st, 2007, 05:47 PM
Why? Well because of the humans who inhabit this world
Octo22
May 21st, 2007, 06:01 PM
We used all our oil, they have oil.
Everglow
May 21st, 2007, 06:42 PM
There is always a conflict of interest in this world.
MoveAlong
May 21st, 2007, 06:47 PM
Because fighting is energizing and gets you thinking like peace doesn't =]
Plus it's the diversity that's so beautiful...think of the colors in the rainbow, when you see a rainbow it's so cool. And there's also different types of things and diff opinions.
Plus, there's also the thing about 'nothing's perfect'...just like how the government is set up! It's not perfect, and some want change. Others don't, and that ends to debating, which in turn makes us fight.
But as far as getting mad at one another, I (for example) personally think it makes school interesting to see a crowd of people and 2 guys pushing eachother! So I think all this stuff that we fight over is fine; there's no way we're gonna change it right now...*shrugs*
Sage
May 21st, 2007, 08:38 PM
We used all our oil, they have oil.
Guess what? There are more than 1 wars going on right now!
As for world peace, I feel that FAtUM has a good point, until we can unite to bring down a common enemy, we'll all just fight eachother. Good practice.
Octo22
May 22nd, 2007, 01:50 PM
Guess what? There are more than 1 wars going on right now!
As for world peace, I feel that FAtUM has a good point, until we can unite to bring down a common enemy, we'll all just fight eachother. Good practice.
I know :P
I was actually kidding. But yeah, it will take something serious for us to..how do you say...er. unite under one flag?
Sage
May 22nd, 2007, 05:26 PM
Bring on them aliens!
Underground_Network
May 23rd, 2007, 07:52 PM
WORLD PEACE? Even if it did happen, would we be better off? Do we have enough resources to make sure everyone is equal. If there is still a divide in any way, whether there be someone richer than someone else, or someone with more power than someone else, there will still be bias and anger, and when that reaches a breaking point we reach conflict. Conflict is basically impossible to avoid, it's inevitable. All species of animal deal with conflict, its not just us. Our wars may seem more violent, but there are animals who fight to the death just for a mate, simply put, at least the majority of us don't do that. Murderous impulses are usually fueled by a reason, and 1st degree murder is usually only committed by those intelligent enough to full plan a murder. No matter what it is near impossible to reach world peace, and once its reached it will be near impossible to maintain, wait scratch that, it will be impossible to maintain. Try reading Harrison Bergeron or The Giver.
Bankai15
May 25th, 2007, 12:14 AM
Here is my simple answer for the question, as long as there are people in this world like hitler, stalin, saddam and osama. We will never have peace.
A to the J
May 25th, 2007, 12:34 AM
I agree war is soo freaking dumb! all these years and were still fighting over power and greed... if we put 1/2 the money we put on war into outerspace we could be in other galixes. Istead here me are destroying the only planent we do have and killing ourself and others over money money money power to, but dont the go hand in hand?
Ventrue
May 27th, 2007, 10:08 PM
There will never be world peace for one simple reason WE ARE HUMANS. HUMANS ARE GREEDY BASTARDS. We see something we like we try and take it. We are racist and discrimnatory. We are mean and violent. GET USED TO WAR. Because as long as humans are around, It's gonna stay
Maverick
May 27th, 2007, 10:57 PM
why cant we just stop and have world peace...i think its sooooo easy that people make it that much harder to achieve....we should just all stop fighting....its getting reallllly old in the world...
Because we all have our own opinions and want things our own way sometimes. It starts at childhood just simply arguing with a sibling. It's human nature thats unavoidable.
Underground_Network
May 28th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Humans are too complex, emotion is the main reason we can't have peace. We all feel pain, anger, and sympathy, as well as jealousy, regret, etc. With these emotions World Peace is IMPOSSIBLE. People with never come to be unbiased and never agree with everyone else. As Anthony said, we all have our own opinions, and our opinions can lead to violence, if our opinions are prejudicial, which a lot of our views/opinions are (not people on this site, just people in general). If one person hates, it can lead a whole group of people to hate. Abhorrance is just part of life, and it can't be thrown away, it will always be there leading to violence and tragedy. But it does say in the song Paper Cliche, "I want to hate you, but hate is love just reversed."
DestroyTheFuture
May 28th, 2007, 12:41 PM
I agree war is soo freaking dumb! all these years and were still fighting over power and greed... if we put 1/2 the money we put on war into outerspace we could be in other galixes. Istead here me are destroying the only planent we do have and killing ourself and others over money money money power to, but dont the go hand in hand?
really? how could we be in other galaxies if we had 1/2 of the money that we ut into war for astronomical funds?
the nearest galaxy is 25,000 light years away.
light year-the distance that light can travel in a year
-5,879,000,000,000 miles
that means that it would be 146,875,000,000,000,000 miles until the next galaxy.
BOTTOM LINE:
WAR IS GOOD
Underground_Network
May 28th, 2007, 03:53 PM
If we put as much money as AJ wants us to do into space travel, we would not get very far. We would need over 500,000 years worth of food on a single space ship to survive a ride through space to a nearby galaxy. We would need to continuously reproduce on the shuttle and teach the kids how to fly the shuttle and use it, and there is almost no way we could get more than 100 people, safely, to another galaxy, and the 100 people we do send will probably die with in a couple decades, lost in space...
Ironic Infidel In England
May 28th, 2007, 04:19 PM
If we put as much money as AJ wants us to do into space travel, we would not get very far. We would need over 500,000 years worth of food on a single space ship to survive a ride through space to a nearby galaxy. We would need to continuously reproduce on the shuttle and teach the kids how to fly the shuttle and use it, and there is almost no way we could get more than 100 people, safely, to another galaxy, and the 100 people we do send will probably die with in a couple decades, lost in space...
Good one underground. I agree.
0=
May 29th, 2007, 01:24 AM
BOTTOM LINE:
WAR IS GOOD
How does space travel at those distances being impossible at this point prove that war is good?
Underground_Network
May 29th, 2007, 07:10 AM
It doesn't mean war is good, it means war is not a waste of money, but yes, it definitely is not necessary, there are better ways of settling our differences, but you tell that to Bush and you'll probably end up dead, execution style.
DestroyTheFuture
May 29th, 2007, 10:55 PM
It doesn't mean war is good, it means war is not a waste of money, but yes, it definitely is not necessary, there are better ways of settling our differences, but you tell that to Bush and you'll probably end up dead, execution style.
me and Bush are homies man
anyways, it isnt necessary, to that exact definition, but its something that i agree is very useful to be done in order to solve problems.
"you have to spend money to make money"
that quote just means that its all about sacrifices. you have to lose people to make more peoples live better. thats why soldiers are looked at as heroes, because of theyre courageous behavior and sacrificial actions.
Makod
May 29th, 2007, 11:02 PM
How does space travel at those distances being impossible at this point prove that war is good?
On the contrary, galactic space wars are awesome.
Star Wars is one very good example, do you not like Star Wars?
DestroyTheFuture
May 30th, 2007, 10:31 PM
On the contrary, galactic space wars are awesome.
Star Wars is one very good example, do you not like Star Wars?
i do not like Star Wars.
lol, no im not Satan...im just not a big Sci-Fi kind of guy. i'll watch the movies, but i'll usually be the first out of a group to point out that they arent, "the best movies ever!!!OMGZZ!!!"
Makod
May 30th, 2007, 10:39 PM
i do not like Star Wars.
Do you dislike galactic space wars in general?
the best movies ever!!!OMGZZ!!!
What, like 300?
Gumleaf
May 31st, 2007, 02:48 AM
if everyone had the same opinion on everything, then there wouldn't be a problem.
Underground_Network
June 2nd, 2007, 11:53 AM
if everyone had the same opinion on everything, then there wouldn't be a problem.
And how do you plan on making this happen?
(btw, DTF, I AM SATAN :P)
DestroyTheFuture
June 3rd, 2007, 08:23 PM
And how do you plan on making this happen?
(btw, DTF, I AM SATAN :P)
he doesnt, he's just saying
and he is obviously right
demonchild, haha
yorkie
June 23rd, 2007, 02:56 PM
ok this is going to sound wierd but im a humanatarian but believe that world peace is a bad idea...imagine all the technology we have got and will get from conflict..also what if a country needed a certain resource? if they couldnt go and take it over then they would have to trade...but what if the country had nothing to trade or could not afford to?
That1Guy
June 23rd, 2007, 03:54 PM
As long as people have each other, we will never run out of problems
kolte
June 23rd, 2007, 07:04 PM
We are too far from peace. It would take everyone to obtain it. Impossible only as much as are imagination is limited. Peace, is the ultimate goal in the universe. Peace of mind, peace of health, peace of society. And how to obtain peace?
over through your oppressor
disregard your cultural
presume a reality and morality of your very own
refrain from ideologies
discover the material value
give up you capitalist ideas of ownership, what is yours is ours and what is ours is humanities.
theonetheycallbob
June 30th, 2007, 01:28 AM
There is no such thing as world peace. There will allways be someone who doesnt like someone else so they get into a fight with them or whatever. Even if we go all of the countries of the world to agree never to do war agian, it would be broken. Humans were made intellegent, we know that we can disagree, so we will. We will fight. Thats it.
kolte
June 30th, 2007, 05:50 AM
well, maybe we should stop trying to make global peace and achieve it one city at a time, until the entire world is made up of separate city states with different rules and such.
JoshDude
June 30th, 2007, 10:14 AM
There is no peace, because nobody is the same. Some people like some things, while others wont. Your parents may like your neighbours, and you might not.
Everglow
June 30th, 2007, 11:44 PM
conflict
of
interest
Camazotz
July 7th, 2007, 09:43 PM
We're Only Human
All humans are imperfect. We all have a want. When 2 people want the same thing, the cannot share. They fight. Thus people join sides. Then the battle gets bigger and out of hand. Why are we in Iraq? Becuz we want to stop terrorism, and we fight them. Obviously the fight back.
Our own downfall will be the effect of our selfishness.
Sunrider
July 21st, 2007, 01:54 AM
A common enemy might not even work because we would fight over who is leading the fight, fight over resources, and after that fight is over we'll be the same as we left off.
Underground_Network
July 22nd, 2007, 02:51 PM
Simple.... the only way to achieve peace is to fight for it. Kind of ironic, eh?
If we decide we want to achieve the goal of world peace we will just end up killing lots of people, giving up, going to fast food restaurants, getting fat, and dying of heart attacks (or heart disease).
xTheLordsServantx
July 22nd, 2007, 03:27 PM
the real reason we CAN NEVER have peace on earth is because this is satan's domain. Death, hatred, evil, etc. are all a part of the sinful world we live in today. And the Bible tells us this constantly. Unfortunately, too few people don't actually take the time to look at the answer which is right in front of us. So...someday there will be peace maybe, but that day is a LONG LONG LONG LONG way from today.
Rawrbaby
July 22nd, 2007, 03:50 PM
Wow ya are back. i was wonderin where ya were
but anyways Thar seems it seems like world peace aint going to happen to much people will always fight on things there would be world peace if Eve didnt partake or the fruit and Adam to and as said above man will always fight but keep ya faith in the Lord and Jesus Christ and everythang will go fine. Man has many different religions like in Islam if someone wont become Muslim then they say kill them or so what i have heard and people will force thar beliefs on everybody and that thar will never be peace in the world but when the Judgement day comes and when the earth is no more thar will be world peace. hope this helps
Sage
July 23rd, 2007, 02:09 AM
Wow ya are back. i was wonderin where ya were
but anyways Thar seems it seems like world peace aint going to happen to much people will always fight on things there would be world peace if Eve didnt partake or the fruit and Adam to and as said above man will always fight but keep ya faith in the Lord and Jesus Christ and everythang will go fine. Man has many different religions like in Islam if someone wont become Muslim then they say kill them or so what i have heard and people will force thar beliefs on everybody and that thar will never be peace in the world but when the Judgement day comes and when the earth is no more thar will be world peace. hope this helps
Hey hey hey let's not start pointing fingers at religion for all this war and violence. Why not blame every non-religious death on athiesm?
Now to say what we've all been repeating like parakeets for so long now, some people will always have bad intentions for this world, and that is why we can't have peace.
Where is the thread creator anyways? He seems to have said one thing so long ago and has never returned to be verbally raped by all this one-sidedness.
xTheLordsServantx
July 23rd, 2007, 02:01 PM
Wow ya are back. i was wonderin where ya were
thanks...
Cap'nCrunch
July 29th, 2007, 08:28 PM
Because Islamic fanatics want to kill followers of other religions.
Because people are poor and they'll kill, fight, steal and do whatever they have to to survive.
Because the government continues to wage a pointless war on drugs
Camazotz
July 29th, 2007, 10:12 PM
Because...people exist. Can anyone TRULY say that they dont want power? Maybe 1 in 800 million. And trust me, thats like Gahndi.
PS- If someone in the future will rein for 7 years, in the middle, WATCH OUT...Just a little note.
That1Guy
July 29th, 2007, 10:59 PM
Someone thinks that they deserve something more than someone else, or that they have a right to it. So they try to take it. Of course, the one they are taking from is not likely to be sympathetic. Conflict ensues.
As for the issue of power, author Douglas Adams said it best.
"The major problem--one of the major problems, for there are several--one of the major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made president should, on no account, be allowed to do the job. To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem.
Who can possibly rule if no one who wants to do it is allowed to?"
A very long quote!!
Underground_Network
August 1st, 2007, 06:37 PM
Peace in a small area may not be impossible, but the area would have to be secluded, barring entry from anyone not born into the area, and disallowing anyone with a different religion or different beliefs from others in that area. An example would be a small town isolated from society full of protestants. They would all have to be kind, optimistic individuals, and they would all have to be passive, not aggressive in their actions. True peace recquires too many restrictions, but yes, there are a helluva lot of avoidable problems that humans are faced with, that if overcome could make society more peaceful, but not completely at peace. A world in pieces may be possible, but a world in peace is not.
waldor
August 10th, 2007, 01:50 AM
why cant we just stop and have world peace...i think its sooooo easy that people make it that much harder to achieve....we should just all stop fighting....its getting reallllly old in the world...
the reason there is not peace is because we all think differently and have different opinons. If we want peace we would all have to think exactly the same. The world is full of conflict and it is true there are better ways to handle them. but if an idiot points a gun at me i am as sure as hell not going to try to talk him out of it.
boognish
August 14th, 2007, 08:17 AM
like all of you have been saying the only way for world peace is for everyone to agree, and that is impossible for not everyone agrees. nothing is impossible, just as world peace is possible.
sadly though, the only way there will be world peace would be if some new guy with the same speaking power as martin luther king and hitler managed to control a large enough force and then killed everyone that disagreed with his view of peace.
so ask yourself, with the actual only way for peace to occur is with everyone who disagrees dead, because that is truely the only way to silence someone, its peace really worth it?
I say no, now lets go bomb a new middle eastern country in our support for human life!
boognish
August 14th, 2007, 08:18 AM
p.s. that is actually how saddam won all the support of the iraqies, he killed all the former rulers and their families and killed anyone who spoke against him, explains why no one dares act ill of him there even with him dead
Serenity
August 14th, 2007, 11:20 AM
l I say no, now lets go bomb a new middle eastern country in our support for human life!
Lol good idea- irony much? :P C'est la vie.
And yeah, you're right. The only way to get unanimous votes is to get rid of those who don't fall into the majority. Definitely not worth it.
PS You know it's spam to double post, right? Use the Edit button instead if you want to add something :)
boognish
August 14th, 2007, 10:21 PM
hey, i know its spam, take a look at how long i have been here. i have suffered through quite a few really bad spammer guys. but i did this for effect. kind of nails in my point alittle better i feel. so learn about who you are trying to school before you school them
P.S. i have been a moderator a few times, and i know how to deal with spam, i have had to in the past.
P.P.S are you happy i didnt double post?
P.P.P.S. thank you for agreeing with me
Serenity
August 14th, 2007, 10:35 PM
Lol calm down- I know perfectly well how long you've been a member and that you've been a mod before from your posts. I also know when you leave something for a while you forget things. I wasn't trying to school you- merely offereing a friendly reminder. :daisy:
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