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Azunite
December 17th, 2011, 06:38 AM
(Oh well, a bit of a "too long didn't read" post, but...)
As the countries of Middle East go for a climax which will result in an ultimate clash, I want to hear you guys' opinions.

First of all, for me we are still far away from a total war, but it is likely that something "will" happen soon.


So, we know that there are 2 actual factions: Faction Iran and Faction US.

Let's talk about some theories a bit.

Iran is supported by Russia and Syria is drawing even closer to them. Israel is US's outpost in Middle East and Turkey is US's prime puppet. Let's examine Turkey for a moment:

During the "Arab Spring" and the time prior to the revolts, Turkey was drawing closer to Iran, signing many trade agreements, sharing military technologies and having many press conferences together. Already frozen relationships between Israel and Turkey was another reason for this. Then, Iran comes with nuclear missiles and NATO demands that Turkey should build these missile shields. Whooop, Turkey suddenly switches sides and lets NATO build the shields.

Just because Europe asked so, Turkey continues to throw ultimatums at Syria, telling Assad that he should step down. Syria responds to this by making missile tests, missilies which are able to hit even Istanbul, heart of Turkey. Russia orders evacuation of civilians close to Russian military outposts in Armenia, and deploys troops to Turkish border and speaks of an imminent military attack.

Planning: Without Turkey it would be roughly US and Israel vs Iran and Russia. Turkey switches sides very often, but seeing that Turkey eventually built missile shields against Iran and being under constant threat by Russia and Syria, it seems we'll be the puppet of America for a while.

Now, conspiracy time: What are your opinions? Your opinions about the policies of countries in Middle East, and America's current policy about Middle East ( Here I'm not referring to Iraq or Afghanistan but it's current policiy about Iran ), what will happen in case the war breaks out? Immideate nuke attacks, or nukes will be used as a lost resort?

Magus
December 17th, 2011, 06:50 AM
Nothing will happen. You know, you can be a great novelist in the alternate-timeline universe political genre.

Azunite
December 17th, 2011, 07:38 AM
Nothing will happen. You know, you can be a great novelist in the alternate-timeline universe political genre.

Like I said, I opened this thread so that we can discuss our conspiracies and theories.

StoppingTime
December 18th, 2011, 08:28 AM
Like I said, I opened this thread so that we can discuss our conspiracies and theories.

Well, jousting putting another question out then, how do you think this war was caused? (I mean what recent factors,)

Azunite
December 18th, 2011, 09:22 AM
Well, jousting putting another question out then, how do you think this war was caused? (I mean what recent factors,)

You guys completely misunderstood me. I didn't say war will break out. What I wrote there actually happened. The missile shields, the ultimatums, missile tests, Russian deployments... All I am asking here is you guys' opinions about the current situation of the Middle East

StoppingTime
December 18th, 2011, 10:02 AM
You guys completely misunderstood me. I didn't say war will break out. What I wrote there actually happened. The missile shields, the ultimatums, missile tests, Russian deployments... All I am asking here is you guys' opinions about the current situation of the Middle East

In a genius, you dot need to remind me :oops:


Anyway, I know that actually happened/is happening, but I was just asking you why you think it all started. But yes, the situation, sooner or later, will probably end up as Iran looking to take out Israel, which means the US will have to decide whether to come to their aid.

antiabort
December 18th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Israel is US's outpost in Middle East


Actually, israel is america's true leader. We kiss their ass constantly.

Magus
December 18th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Actually, israel is america's true leader. We kiss their ass constantly.
Should I rep this or the one in the 9-year old thread? I guess this one.

antiabort
December 18th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Should I rep this or the one in the 9-year old thread? I guess this one.

What?

edit: oh yea that

Azunite
December 18th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Anyway, I know that actually happened/is happening, but I was just asking you why you think it all started.


Neighbors hate each other. Countries of different religion hate each other. Countries who have same interest hate each other. Countries with a violent past hate each other. Countries who are against something hate those who defend it.

That makes "Hatred" x 5 for the Middle East

aperson444
December 18th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Israel is a big headache. We should cut all funding to them. Russia is backing away from Iran, although they continue to aid their nuclear energy program. Also, Russia prefers to take a neutral stance and for that reason they probably won't swoop in to defend Iran until NATO draws closer to the Russian border. Russia may be neutral, but they are notoriously anti-NATO and will get really fucking pissed when a bunch of French-speaking NATO troops come knocking on the border between Russian aligned states (the CIS) and the Middle East. They won't attack; I doubt that Russia is willing to risk another war, especially with Putin under such heavy fire. Syria is pretty much out of the picture. Almost all Arab countries as well as Russia are backing away from them. A revolution is imminent, I doubt Al-Assad will be able to hold out much longer. Iran will continue on fumbling with ages old nuclear technology inherited from China and perhaps aided by Pakistan (and the domestic nuclear program). I really doubt that any element in the Iranian government will actually allow a nuclear attack on... Any nation. The result would be disastrous. They are all talk, no action.

StoppingTime
December 18th, 2011, 04:19 PM
Israel is a big headache. We should cut all funding to them.

Why? I'm not arguing, just wondering your reasoning here.

Azunite
December 19th, 2011, 08:43 AM
Why? I'm not arguing, just wondering your reasoning here.

Here, your first man.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/08/sarkozy-obama-netanyahu-gaffe-microphone