Pokemon in 2012.

[UnknownError]

What games do you think will come out next year? I've looked around alot on online and most sites/people are expecting a Ruby/Sapphire remake since next year is the 10 year anniversary of it.

A couple of places are expecting Grey but alot say that it's too soon for it to be released, while others are saying they'll bring it out soon before the DS is completely forgotten.

What do you guys think? Im hoping for a R/S remake myself. Aslong as its not more shitty spin-off's.

[Suicune]

Well if tradition stays true then we'll hear about "Grey" in the spring and have it be released in the fall in Japan. There are still games Game Freak haven't yet revealed that they said are coming. Maybe we'll see something at Jump Festa.

Also with the next movie being about Kyurem, then I really wouldn't expect anything other than Grey. I'm just excited about having a main series game on 3DS.

And as much as I'd love to have an R/S remake, it'll have to wait a while I think personally. Having Grey and the remake released close together would really cause conflict in sales. But it'll be worth the wait for sure. :)



*Awaits reply about how only 151 exist*

[terminoob]

I'd love an R/S remake, but I'm guessing that if that comes out then it'll depend on when Grey comes out. Hypothetically people will end up favoring one over the other (though in reality, I doubt that'd be a problem), which wouldn't be good. Unless the R/S remakes come out in January/February in Japan, I wouldn't bank on seeing them until this time next year or in 2013, provided they actually do come out.

I'd also bank on more spin-off games coming out, though if the new PMD games are among them... I guess I wouldn't complain too much.

[Syvelocin]

No remake, no remake, no remake, please please please, no remake...

I won't play it if there is. Okay, maybe eventually. The S/G remake was great, and I loved FireRed and LeafGreen but they were GBA, so of course I'd like them better. Sapphire was my introductory game. Such nostalgia. I don't think I'll be able to take it if it's remade. But I know my curiosity will eventually overcome me.

I'm one of those people who think the first three generations are the only pokémon. So I'm only half-bad. I beat Diamond, I just dropped Black and haven't beaten it, lack of interest. And I am not getting a 3DS for a very long time if at all. Sooo... I'll buy Skyrim! :P

[User Deleted]

No remake, no remake, no remake, please please please, no remake...

I won't play it if there is. Okay, maybe eventually. The S/G remake was great, and I loved FireRed and LeafGreen but they were GBA, so of course I'd like them better. Sapphire was my introductory game. Such nostalgia. I don't think I'll be able to take it if it's remade. But I know my curiosity will eventually overcome me.

I'm one of those people who think the first three generations are the only pokémon. So I'm only half-bad. I beat Diamond, I just dropped Black and haven't beaten it, lack of interest. And I am not getting a 3DS for a very long time if at all. Sooo... I'll buy Skyrim! :P

I was introduced to Sapphire as well, it brings back memories of not being to make it out of the first town without help~ I hated reading. But I'd love a remake if I got it. For a while now I refuse to buy video games, so I wouldn't get it. But it's not like I'm discriminating against remakes.

I think they did go downhill after the first three generations, but I still like some of the new ones to a slightly lesser extent.

[UnknownError]

I really hope its not for the 3DS, I refuse to buy one because Pokemon is literally the only game I play on my DS. I'd probably end up borrowing a 3DS from someone though if it was released for it.

My first game that I remember was Emerald. Im sure I had Gold or Silver though.
Sitting in my bed at seven years old trying to pronounce the names, good times.

[Tristin.]

no more pokemon games please. black and white were an abomination. i mean garbarage showed that they are running dry on ideas. i will forever be a pokemon fan, but black and white are the start of them ruining the games

my first game was crystal :') then i got them all >=3

[UnknownError]

No.jpg

Sure some of the new Pokemon designs have flaws, but I still enjoyed the storyline and the game itself despite that.

[Tristin.]

a castle came out of the ground? im sorry, they were bad.

[UnknownError]

That happens irl... occasionally.

[User Deleted]

a castle came out of the ground? im sorry, they were bad.

I think the Pokemon ideas were worse than that. I mean, for pity sake, a trash bag? Ice cream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXadKOKulE4)?!?

[Foamy]

Started with leaf green.

[Suicune]

I think the Pokemon ideas were worse than that. I mean, for pity sake, a trash bag? Ice cream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXadKOKulE4)?!?

I know right? And how about those unholy designs such as that that one with (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e5/051Dugtrio.png) three (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/93/085Dodrio.png) of itself? (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/72/082Magneton.png)

I mean why do they go and make creatures based off of European dragons, the philosophy of Wuji, and the theory of absolute zero? (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c3/646Kyurem.png)
Obviously they need to be more original and make more rocks (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/98/074Geodude.png)

/End Sarcasm

a castle came out of the ground?

As if anybody should suspect a fictional story to be realistic at all.

[User Deleted]

I know right? And how about those unholy designs such as that that one with (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e5/051Dugtrio.png) three (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/93/085Dodrio.png) of itself? (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/72/082Magneton.png)

I mean why do they go and make creatures based off of European dragons, the philosophy of Wuji, and the theory of absolute zero? (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c3/646Kyurem.png)
Obviously they need to be more original and make more rocks (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/98/074Geodude.png)

/End Sarcasm

Okay, I admit. I lol'ed pretty hard.

But something about the new Pokemon to me doesn't seem to stand out as well as the old generations. Yes, they have always been abstract, and a couple have been stranger than others. Something about the new gen Pokemon just tipped me off though. Don't get me wrong, I love the story line as much as I always have. It's just I have a harder time taking it seriously when I fight something that looks so much cheesier.

Your point still holds that they have always been more than deviant. Perhaps its the memories, perhaps the old style really did make me accept it more, but the new Pokemon feel so desperate to me. Like they are forcing the ideas. When the older games felt to me more like they had inventive, creative, and [-]interesting[/-]. (I'll hand interesting to the new Pokemon games actually)

Some new Pokemon, yes, are good. But seriously cheap shot going with a legendary. They have in my opinion never through all the generations failed to make especially good legendaries.

I'm not saying they need to be more original, I'm saying they shouldn't have a phobia of having the same or similar animal/object turned into a Pokemon. And at first they did a good job with that. Now the dragons and dogs may have gotten repetitive, (and remain that way) while old ideas are forcibly not repeated.


/no sarcasm here

[Suicune]

Some new Pokemon, yes, are good. But seriously cheap shot going with a legendary. They have in my opinion never through all the generations failed to make especially good legendaries.
Whether or not you believe it's a cheap shot or not, people must agree that they're not just pulling ideas out of their ass as much as they say they are.

I'm saying they shouldn't have a phobia of having the same or similar animal/object turned into a Pokemon. And at first they did a good job with that.

They're far from having a phobia about reusing the same or similar a species. Black and White have introduced Pokemon that are similar, yet different, to the originals.
Some examples would be the Tympole family and Poliwag family, Sawk and Throh being the Hitmons of the region, the Drilbur family being the Sandshrews, and the Timburr family being the Machops of the region.

I could go on, really.

[User Deleted]

Okay, fair enough, but do you honestly not find the two I mentioned to be the least bit ridiculous?

[Suicune]

Okay, fair enough, but do you honestly not find the two I mentioned to be the least bit ridiculous?

Well when they first appeared I was outraged because everybody has that ignorant nostalgia fanboy in there somewhere. At first, yes I found them totally ridiculous, but I just got used to having them around and started to like them a little bit.

Doesn't mean they're the best thing to ever happen to the series, but they're far from the worst.

[User Deleted]

Doesn't mean they're the best thing to ever happen to the series, but they're far from the worst.

I'm intrigued. What was worse than this?

[Suicune]

I'm intrigued. What was worse than this?
Well I think the worst things to happen to this series for one thing would have been, for example, the lack of accessibility to all Pokemon in Generation 3. When the ultimate goal in the games is to complete the Pokedex, in North America there simply wasn't enough support for the games. Many events like Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys required people to travel hundreds of miles to select cities to get one. Some of this was remedied in the Gamecube games, but the problem still existed up until Generation 4.

That's just my view. The Pokedex has become easier to complete over the years. But I believe there should have been more support for the earlier games.

[User Deleted]

Well I think the worst things to happen to this series for one thing would have been, for example, the lack of accessibility to all Pokemon in Generation 3. When the ultimate goal in the games is to complete the Pokedex, in North America there simply wasn't enough support for the games. Many events like Celebi, Mew, and Deoxys required people to travel hundreds of miles to select cities to get one. Some of this was remedied in the Gamecube games, but the problem still existed up until Generation 4.

That's just my view. The Pokedex has become easier to complete over the years. But I believe there should have been more support for the earlier games.

I thought they allowed you to get 100% without celibi, mew, deyoxes, and jarachi?

Well that has been a problem since the beginning, when they required you to link for more pokemon, and the horrid ancient machines you had to hook up to for events way back when.

That's a problem that should have been solved a long time ago.

[UnknownError]

I hate the legendary Pokemon sometimes. I mean does this really deserve legendary status?

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/05/492Shaymin-Land.png/180px-492Shaymin-Land.png

[Filipitty]

Well im guessing it will be a remake of ruby and saphire, it's gone remake (fire red/leaf green) new (diamond/pearl/platinum) remake (heart gold/soul silver) new (black/white) so im thinking it would be a good time for a remake of it. Hopefully in 3d?

[Suicune]

I hate the legendary Pokemon sometimes. I mean does this really deserve legendary status?

image (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/05/492Shaymin-Land.png/180px-492Shaymin-Land.png)

Well, yeah, actually. It has a base stat total of 600.


Shaymin represents Gratitude, a human aspect. Many legendaries of the fourth generation represent human aspects and emotions such as dreaming, knowledge, and determination. Just because it's cute doesn't mean it can't be legendary.

[User Deleted]

I hate the legendary Pokemon sometimes. I mean does this really deserve legendary status?

image (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/05/492Shaymin-Land.png/180px-492Shaymin-Land.png)

I think its pretty damn cute. I vote yes.

[Mara-chan]

I think its pretty damn cute. I vote yes.



agreed ^.^


i'm hoping for the remake...i really liked the r/s games....and i hope to god they arent in 3d....normal ds would be ok....i mean....the originals are the only reason i kept my gameboy and gameboy sp....

i started off with yellow, red, and blue....lol

[Levy]

Honestly, if you really think about it, the first three gens weren't that fantastic, I mean look at how many Pokemon looked like rats/mice alone, not much originality. I loved all of them from red to black. So I won't hate on new gens. As far as the castle coming out of the ground, that was more of a story than can be said for the past ones.
As far as a new game, I think there might be a gray. I think it's too soon for a remake.

[Suicune]

agreed ^.^


and i hope to god they arent in 3d....normal ds would be ok

What exactly is the problem with having a handheld game in 3D? The models in Pokedex 3D are amazing and would look great in a main series game. Black and White are pretty much pushing the DS to it's graphical limits, so why not have them look better if they can?

It's not like it's impossible to have a little give and take when it comes to games.

[User Deleted]

So, my only question is, when will the pokemon corporation get the idea of where you can fight in non-turn based battles, and movement won't be limited to up down left right and in. I doubt they will do a handheld one like this to be honest, but I hope they do something more with the graphics than /upgrade /upgrade /upgrade, we need a total shift! At least, I think so. This format is getting old.

[Mara-chan]

What exactly is the problem with having a handheld game in 3D? The models in Pokedex 3D are amazing and would look great in a main series game. Black and White are pretty much pushing the DS to it's graphical limits, so why not have them look better if they can?

It's not like it's impossible to have a little give and take when it comes to games.



i dont really like the 3d idea....nor do i have the money 4 the 3ds....

wait....i know it would probably cost a little more....but maybe have the game in both....and u have the choice.....or whatever....

[Suicune]

So, my only question is, when will the pokemon corporation get the idea of where you can fight in non-turn based battles, and movement won't be limited to up down left right and in. I doubt they will do a handheld one like this to be honest, but I hope they do something more with the graphics than /upgrade /upgrade /upgrade, we need a total shift! At least, I think so. This format is getting old.

Well Pokemon is a turned based RPG and that will likely never change in a main game. Also, 360 degree movement would require a much much larger world than what we have now. ( I actually like it when a world is bigger )
Really the biggest shift to happen aside from Black and White's graphics and story was way back in Generation 2. A 3DS game, in the future anyway, can provide these things.

but maybe have the game in both....and u have the choice.....or whatever....

Exactly, give and take. It's happened before, somewhat, in the series. There's nothing really that could stop a DS and 3DS version from being incompatible as far as I can see.

EDIT:
Well it turns out we'll be getting news on a new game in January, maybe even before then (http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/33466/new-pokemon-game-to-be-announced-next-month/)

[Mara-chan]

no matter what it is....as long as it has the option of 3d or normal.....i'll be happy....and i know a lot of others will be happy 2.....^.^

[UnknownError]

I knew CoroCoro would be releasing something soon, just didnt know it would be this soon.

I came.

[Syvelocin]

I hate the legendary Pokemon sometimes. I mean does this really deserve legendary status?

image (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/0/05/492Shaymin-Land.png/180px-492Shaymin-Land.png)

SHAYMIN IS ADORABLE.

It's the legendaries like Heatran, Dialga, Palkia, Arceus, Giratina... that I don't get.

Well. If you look at my favourite legendaries that may explain things. Articuno, Mew, Suicune, Latios, and Jirachi. Well, I'm a girl. I do like Reshiram though, not so much the other.

[UnknownError]

SHAYMIN IS ADORABLE.

It's the legendaries like Heatran, Dialga, Palkia, Arceus, Giratina... that I don't get.

Well. If you look at my favourite legendaries that may explain things. Articuno, Mew, Suicune, Latios, and Jirachi. Well, I'm a girl. I do like Reshiram though, not so much the other.

I wish they'd have 6 legendary's per generation.
That's two per game. IMO, that's enough.
The game mascot, then a hidden one.

[Mara-chan]

I wish they'd have 6 legendary's per generation.
That's two per game. IMO, that's enough.
The game mascot, then a hidden one.

i agree....i rly dont have more 2 add 2 that....but i rly like the idea...lol

[UnknownError]

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/16/take-a-closer-look-at-pokemon-nobunagas-ambition/

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvcy5cT5Hp1qdxpyt.jpg

i dont know what my emotions are doing.

[Suicune]

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/16/take-a-closer-look-at-pokemon-nobunagas-ambition/

image (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvcy5cT5Hp1qdxpyt.jpg)

i dont know what my emotions are doing.

I lol'd.

I really am surprised, like, I never would have guessed anything like this in a million years.
"Hey, put down that fucking Pokedex and go take over Japan."
I like this change in maturity.

[UnknownError]

I'd never even heard of Nobunaga's Ambition before.

There's a trailer up.

u34bzH5Eo04

[dantheman5000]

im sorry to say but i think pokemon is done for. yes i play and watch the anime butttt... they were running out of ideas with diamond and peal.

[Suicune]

im sorry to say but i think pokemon is done for. yes i play and watch the anime butttt... they were running out of ideas with diamond and peal.

> Running out of ideas

> New franchise crossover in which you take over Japan with Pokemon. Perhaps the biggest step up in maturity the series may have not seen in a long while.

[UnknownError]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a356447/pokemon-plus-nobunagas-ambition-announced-by-nintendo.html

Nintendo lifted the lid on the project at this weekend's Jump Festa in Japan. The gaming giant is expected to announce another Pokémon game next month.

So this wasnt the January game then? I suppose this could be possible since this isnt a main series title.

[antiabort]

Pokemon is shit nowadays if you ask me. the new games are nothing compared to the original ones.

[Suicune]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a356447/pokemon-plus-nobunagas-ambition-announced-by-nintendo.html



So this wasnt the January game then? I suppose this could be possible since this isnt a main series title.
Well there could be a chance that this is the game in January and we'll only get more details, but following tradition it is probably a main series game.

the new games are nothing compared to the original ones.

They've only gotten better. :)

[UnknownError]

They've only gotten better. :)

This is what I think. People say the new designs are horrible but if you look back at the 1st Gen designs they aren't actually that amazing either. Storylines are much better aswell and the newer regions are great.

[antiabort]

They've only gotten better. :)

Nope.jpg

[Mara-chan]

They've only gotten better. :)



the story lines have gotten so much better then when it first came out....



random thinking....did the japanese fix that bug in the original pokemon games b4 shipping them? lol

[Syvelocin]

The stories and graphics + the original pokémon = maybe. The only thing that detracts me is that some of the new pokémon actually look more like new digimon or something. I don't look at them and think pokémon. I actually love the new look and feel of the games, it's the pokémon I can't live with.

[Suicune]

Nope.jpg

You blew me away with that response. So filled with examples and a compelling thesis that just says "hands down" to every other response imaginable.

You are absolutely right. Nostalgia > Improvements. All the way.

The only thing that detracts me is that some of the new pokémon actually look more like new digimon or something.
I have never really been able to make that connection with the new ones.
It's always the old ones that remind me of digimon.

http://dma.wtw-x.net/DMA/DigimonStands/Toei/Seppi/Renamon.jpg
Renamon reminds me of Jolteon

http://digitalmonsters.free.fr/images/saison_un/digimon/agumon.gif
And Agumon reminds me of Charmander. You see where I'm coming from?


random thinking....did the japanese fix that bug in the original pokemon games b4 shipping them? lol

Nope. Many bugs weren't found until after they shipped them.

[Mara-chan]

Nope. Many bugs weren't found until after they shipped them.



....i dont feel like playing my old games nemore....that story was creepy as hell.....

hope 2 god it doesnt happen again.....

[Syvelocin]

You blew me away with that response. So filled with examples and a compelling thesis that just says "hands down" to every other response imaginable.

You are absolutely right. Nostalgia > Improvements. All the way.


I have never really been able to make that connection with the new ones.
It's always the old ones that remind me of digimon.

image (http://dma.wtw-x.net/DMA/DigimonStands/Toei/Seppi/Renamon.jpg)
Renamon reminds me of Jolteon

image (http://digitalmonsters.free.fr/images/saison_un/digimon/agumon.gif)
And Agumon reminds me of Charmander. You see where I'm coming from?


Okay, sure, those two. But I was thinking about the others actually.

I don't mean exact likenesses, but I mean the overall feeling of them. If you get what I mean.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21000000/Digimon-vs-Pokemon-digimon-vs-pokemon-21085428-600-338.jpg

To me, many of them I'd believe are digimon before believing they're pokémon.

But while we're on likenesses...

http://wikimon.net/images/f/fd/Xuanwumon.jpg

[UnknownError]

lol digimon. I refuse to even look at a digimon product.

[Suicune]

Okay, sure, those two. But I was thinking about the others actually.

I don't mean exact likenesses, but I mean the overall feeling of them. If you get what I mean.

image (http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21000000/Digimon-vs-Pokemon-digimon-vs-pokemon-21085428-600-338.jpg)

To me, many of them I'd believe are digimon before believing they're pokémon.

But while we're on likenesses...

image (http://wikimon.net/images/f/fd/Xuanwumon.jpg)

Now I think I see what you're saying.


lol digimon. I refuse to even look at a digimon product.
I really couldn't tell you any others than the two I mentioned.

[UnknownError]

Pokemon > Digimon.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/2714/298487-anime060_super.jpg http://images.wikia.com/digimon/images/0/0a/Otamamon_b.jpg

http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/d/dd/193Yanma.png http://digimon.neoseeker.com/w/i/digimon/thumb/2/27/Yanmamon.jpg/260px-Yanmamon.jpg

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/47/214Heracross.png http://wikimon.net/images/4/48/Ballistamon3.jpg

[Suicune]

Pokemon > Digimon.

image (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/2714/298487-anime060_super.jpg) image (http://images.wikia.com/digimon/images/0/0a/Otamamon_b.jpg)

image (http://images.wikia.com/pokemon/images/d/dd/193Yanma.png) image (http://digimon.neoseeker.com/w/i/digimon/thumb/2/27/Yanmamon.jpg/260px-Yanmamon.jpg)

image (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/47/214Heracross.png) image (http://wikimon.net/images/4/48/Ballistamon3.jpg)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/189/982/el-meme-mother-of-god-animado[2].gif?1319346993
I think I'm happier to have grown up on Pokemon rather than Digimon.

[ImCoolBeans]

Personaly I think that a ruby and saphire remake would be good, the new pokemom games (black&white) are decent but there are too many pokemon and the developers seem to be running out of ideas. The old games were classics and it would be great to see what they can do to make them better.

Agreed, I love the classics but I'd really like to see what they could do with them if they were to do remakes.

[NomSan]

I seriously doubt that there will ever be a gray version.
I'm hoping for a Pokémon Colosseum type of game for the 3DS, and a R/S/E remake.

[Kdude146]

I have a feeling that we will see ruby and saphire remake in 2012 cuz ruby and saphire first came out in Japan in 2002 so it's the 10th anoversary

[Mara-chan]

i just want a good game that doesn't have all those crappy and completly pointless videos in it....i want to play pokemon....not "talk" to my mother....

i really hope its the R/S remake tho....





check out my blog if you want a good, yet really creepy pokemon story....lol

[Suicune]

i just want a good game that doesn't have all those crappy and completly pointless videos in it....i want to play pokemon....not "talk" to my mother....
[/SIZE]

That's just saying "I don't want any cutscenes." They're not videos.
Go play Red and Blue.

[Mara-chan]

if its the originals....i wont....im 2 scared 2....lol XP

they just really bug me....i dont know why.....odd...i know....i dont like them in any game....

[screamtobeheard]

The stories and graphics + the original pokémon = maybe. The only thing that detracts me is that some of the new pokémon actually look more like new digimon or something. I don't look at them and think pokémon. I actually love the new look and feel of the games, it's the pokémon I can't live with.

Yes, this is exactly how I feel.