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dontcare97
November 20th, 2011, 11:38 PM
Yes, i know that African Americans weren't the only ones in history called the n-word but I'm talking about the use of it in modern times.Word is usually associated NOW with a lower class race; mostly Black people with exceptions( Middle eastern people have been called sand n***as aswell)
I personally feel that white people shouldn't use the word.Yes, I know it's a form of censorship and that no one should prohibit what othesr say but listen to my reasoning which has come from older, more intelligent people.
Why would you continue to use a word that hurts people for your know gratification? If you know that a homosexual person had problems or ill feelings with being called a faggot, what would be your reason to purposely say and then hurt someone? Would you go to an Asian person and pull your eyes back and say "Ching chong chang!" just because it was funny for you? Would you want to be call a word you hate by others who couldn't understand your situation( i.e: emo, cutter, retard, crazy,femi-nazi, fag, loser, white trash, poor, dirty,whore/slut, dumbass,devil worshiper,fat, ugly,etc). I'm not asking for you to agree or disagree with whatever but can you at least have the human decency not to degrade someone because of race, ethnicity, religion, sexual preference, etc and show a bit of tolerance?
Some say political correctness is taking over the world and that people need to "suck it up", but why would you- as a presumably kind and caring human being- want to cause more harm to someone for some selfish reason?
This leads me into another reason, white people can't be called the n word and hurt by it. If I, a black teen girl, went to some white person on the street and called him/her the n-word, their day wouldn't be thrown off.That word holds no power over him/her and can't possible bring anything more then discomfort.At worst, in histroy nigger lover has been used to hurt white people. (Still, the world hurts black people because it says that any self respecting white person would never lower their standards and like,be kind to, be attracted to, live/eat with a PoC) But if it was reversed, it will alter my life in a big way.
For white people, that word doesn't hold the same poison as it does for someone like me. Really, what word can I really ever call a White American( American is key for this part) person that will hurt them? A word has never been used to hold down a white american that made him or her feel bad about their race.White people are more likely to get into college, be more wealthy,and live saver, longer lives compared to African Americans.
http://www.radford.edu/~junnever/bw.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/black-white-life-expectan_n_865945.html
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/07/26/wealth-gaps-rise-to-record-highs-between-whites-blacks-hispanics/
http://www.edweek.org/ew/issues/achievement-gap/
Some of this can be chalked up to white privilege (http://ted.coe.wayne.edu/ele3600/mcintosh.html).
Don't pity it thou, help change the world so it could truely be a more equal place.(once that happens we can move on from affirmative action laws)I'm not saying its all the "white man's" fault. PoC help put themselves into this roles and we ourselves reinforce stereotypes. It pisses me off a lot( another issue for another day thou..). I'm just trying to say that the n word means a lot more to us than it does to White Americans.
I really think the black community needs to sit down and talk about it. What are we going to do and what we want other non black people to understand about the word. It is a part of our history and culture.
TheMatrix
November 21st, 2011, 01:46 AM
Wassup nigga? :cool:
No, people can say what they want to, IMHO. Of course, you have to use it appropriately, as in don't shout it out in a serious/formal situation. Same applies for the word fuck(or the "f-word", if you want). I don't shout that out in the wrong situations.
Summary: Like all words, use the "n-word" appropriately.
Genghis Khan
November 21st, 2011, 03:17 AM
I really can't answer that question properly because I'm not of African-American heritage, although I can relate in so far as being called a paki is concerned, it doesn't bother me that much at all, but that's probably because it doesn't have as long a history to it and less shit happened.
Personally, I don't use it around black people unless they've established they're cool with it, cos, what's the point? Don't really fancy offending a whole lot just for my own shits and giggles.
Amaryllis
November 21st, 2011, 04:20 AM
I personally feel that white people shouldn't use the word.
Wait. I just need to get this straight here. White people only? What about asians? We should use "nigger" freely? What about black people? I've seen them use the word nigger on a lot of other "african americans," is this offensive? What if a...
Ah, I'm just going to call black people fuzzy wuzzy angels if that's alright with you. It's what aussies called the papua new guineans who helped them along the kokoda trail in world war II.
So, are fuzzy wuzzy angels allowed to call other fuzzy wuzzy angels, niggers?
Why would you continue to use a word that hurts people for your know gratification?
I know you yourself are offended by the word "nigger" but from what I've seen, the majority of fuzzy wuzzies aren't. Many people just go "Yo, wassup nigga" as a way of showing the person that they're accepted and equal. If you can call a black person a nigger and call white people and asians niggers, too, well, nigger just becomes another word. A word that can be used like "human."
If we took away all the negative connotations attached to the word "nigger," it would no longer hurt. If everyone used it for everyone, it wouldn't be exclusive to the "black discrimination."
I know tons of people who act black because they think you're pretty cool. A lot of the time they use "nigger" to try to fit in.
If you know that a homosexual person had problems or ill feelings with being called a faggot, what would be your reason to purposely say and then hurt someone?
Some people are just douchebags. That or they don't give a damn and think words don't hurt all that much and you need to learn to suck it up.
Would you go to an Asian person and pull your eyes back and say "Ching chong chang!" just because it was funny for you?
I'm chinese and I find it pretty funny.
I understand that I can't speak for everyone, but really, we all just need to learn to take a joke and laugh about it. When you laugh at yourself, you no longer become the victim of the joke, you just become part of it.
would you want to be call a word you hate by others who couldn't understand your situation( i.e: emo, cutter, retard, crazy,femi-nazi, fag, loser, white trash, poor, dirty,whore/slut, dumbass,devil worshiper,fat, ugly,etc).
Thing is, most people don't even realise what they're doing. How are you meant to know the word is offensive if the person doesn't say so? So far, every person I've offended by using the word "nigger" has been white.
Sometimes you just need to calmly say "Please don't use that word. It's offensive and all it does is make you look immature." Most people -will- shut up.
I'm not asking for you to agree or disagree with whatever but can you at least have the human decency not to degrade someone because of race, ethnicity, religion, sexual preference, etc and show a bit of tolerance?
"Nigger" is no longer the same word as what it used to be. It's hardly a form of degradation now. It isn't! For most people, anyway. When i call someone a nigger, I'm not saying that person is beneath me. Not at all. My best friend is black and we laugh about all the funny asian and black jokes all the time. We go to a school filled with caucasians. Yes, I understand the definition of the word "nigger" but -why take it to heart-?
Some say political correctness is taking over the world and that people need to "suck it up", but why would you- as a presumably kind and caring human being- want to cause more harm to someone for some selfish reason?
Most people -do not- use the word "nigger" to make people feel like shit. It's like how kids use "gay" for absolutely everything. Does this necessarily mean they're homophones? Of course not. It's just the way society has influenced them. If you hear it everyday, the word loses it's deep, heart-breaking, true, painful meaning.
This leads me into another reason, white people can't be called the n word and hurt by it. If I, a black teen girl, went to some white person on the street and called him/her the n-word, their day wouldn't be thrown off.That word holds no power over him/her and can't possible bring anything more then discomfort.At worst, in histroy nigger lover has been used to hurt white people. (Still, the world hurts black people because it says that any self respecting white person would never lower their standards and like,be kind to, be attracted to, live/eat with a PoC) But if it was reversed, it will alter my life in a big way.
For white people, that word doesn't hold the same poison as it does for someone like me. Really, what word can I really ever call a White American( American is key for this part) person that will hurt them?
Okay, I have to ask this. Why are you offended by the word "nigger"? It has nothing to do with -you-. That's just creating the whole "us and them" mindset in which you belong to one group and you're grouping everyone with dark skin into that group. If you want peace and equality, stop thinking us and them, just think us.
It's a thing of the past. You, most likely, weren't around during the time. Imagine if Japan still hated America with a strong, burning passion because of the hiroshima bombing! Imagine if america still held deep anger for japan because of the pearl harbour attack! Imagine if, oh hell, mongolians still despised some other race of people from china for some war they lost years and years ago.
Thing is, sweetie, it's the -past-. What's done is done but you're young. This generation can and is turning the word "nigger" into something insignificant. If you use something -all the time-, it loses it's power to hurt. It's like when you're embarrassed by something and you tell the story over and over, soon it just becomes a joke. Just a memory.
I hardly ever swear and that's because when I use fuck, shit, bitch, all the time, it loses it's impact. It no longer hits as hard as it could've had I reserved it for when I was really angry.
My point is, if you use "nigger" constantly, you render it useless.
A word has never been used to hold down a white american that made him or her feel bad about their race.
Huh... Chalky.
Some of this can be chalked up to white privilege
HAHAHAHA.
Sorry.
I really think the black community needs to sit down and talk about it. What are we going to do and what we want other non black people to understand about the word. It is a part of our history and culture.
I swear you will have tons of people from the black community going "What you on about? o___O"
It's a part of your -history-. History is history. History might influence present history but history is history with a history so history should become our history so we create new history.
^ That made crap sense.
OH! ANOTHER POINT! These other "offensive" words people use have different meanings as well.
Bitch = You insultin' dogs.
Mother fucker = You're insulting my mother.
Asshole = You got a problem with my ass?
Cunt = I like vaginas, too.
Dick = Ooohh yeah, I like dicks.
Bastard = Huhuh... I'm the daughter of a bastard :')
你他妈的 = Ur big mama. Huh...
Or we could cut the white black yellow shiz and call each other this!
Fair skinned = Snowflakes, milkshake, angels, winter people, little white chocolate- Uh... People >.>
Dark skinned = Chocolate, coffee, midnight skies, fuzzy wuzzy angels, big.. Big.
Everyone in between = GOD. I'm kidding! Umm... Desert, golden sand, sunlight, stars and I'm not even gonna go there ^_^
Infidelitas
November 21st, 2011, 08:25 AM
Okay.
Word is usually associated NOW with a lower class race; mostly Black people with exceptions( Middle eastern people have been called sand n***as aswell)
Hold it right there. Are you trying to stereotype 'niggers' as being poor people and lower class (bogans in my state)? Not -every- black/African/Middle Eastern etc. etc. are poor. (http://www.therichest.org/world/wealthiest-black-people/)
It would be like stereotyping pregnant women as being 'sluts' and Tasmanian people for being inbred (don't know where Tasmania is? Look it up.), girls only liking pink and barbie dolls, boys only liking cars and action figures, asuming feminine sounding men are gay ect.
I personally feel that white people shouldn't use the word.
If you owned a supermarket right, would it be acceptable if you disallowed children to use the word vegetables? That would be concerning for people's right to free speech.
my reasoning which has come from older, more intelligent people.
So does this mean you are basing your opinions on opinions that have come from other people?
If I asked an onion, should I use his/her opinion as my own?
Why would you continue to use a word that hurts people for your know gratification?
How do you know it hurts someone if they don't tell you? You can't read minds. They might have an angry look on their face, but that's no reason to assume that they got offended by what you said. They might have had a bad day or something.
If you know that a homosexual person had problems or ill feelings with being called a faggot
Here is a short list of the other meanings to the word faggot:
A branch or twig, or a bundle of the following: Fasces, Faggot (unit), Death by burning, Ashen Faggot
A Brittish meatball made from pork offal
A novel by Larry Kramer
Faggoting - Metalworking, forge welding a bundle of bars of iron or steel
Knitting
Faggoting stich: A variation of lace knitting in which every stitch is over a decrease
Mikoyan-Gureivch MiG-15 USSR fighter jet with the name of 'Fagot'
9K111 Fagot: an anti-tank guided missile
A bassoon: also called Fagotto, faggot, fagott, fagot.
Faggot cell: A blast cell type found in acute promyelocytic leukemia.
Faggot voter: Hireling elegiable to vote as nominal title holder of a subdivided property
Eumeta Crameri or faggot worm, from the bundles of twigs it binds to itself.
And blah blah blah blah blah
what would be your reason to purposely say and then hurt someone?
Not everyone says the word 'nigger' just to offend someone. Also not everyone is a prick going about trying to offend people.
Would you go to an Asian person and pull your eyes back and say "Ching chong chang!" just because it was funny for you?
No. Because I am not 8 years old. How many people over the age of 16 do you see doing that?
Would you want to be call a word you hate by others who couldn't understand your situation( i.e: emo, cutter, retard, crazy,femi-nazi, fag, loser, white trash, poor, dirty,whore/slut, dumbass,devil worshiper,fat, ugly,etc).
Maybe you should enlighten these people to your situation. Prove them wrong.
This leads me into another reason, white people can't be called the n word and hurt by it.
Why?
If I, a black teen girl, went to some white person on the street and called him/her the n-word, their day wouldn't be thrown off.
Maybe I have my head shoved so far up my ass that I can't see the light of day, but in the 17 1/2 years I have been living, I have never seen anybody walk down the street to a white person they don't know and call them a nigger.
I am not speaking for anyone else but myself here, but why should anyone be offended by the word? I agree that people should take care of the use of the word, but a lot of people seem to use it as a joke.
That word holds no power over him/her and can't possible bring anything more then discomfort.
Discomfort can be seen as a power.
Really, what word can I really ever call a White American( American is key for this part) person that will hurt them?
Yank, Septics, Merkan, Hillbilly, etc.
longer lives compared to African Americans.
Are you saying, if you use the word 'nigger', it gives African American people a shorter life expectancy?
:yeah: :eek: :rolleyes: :D :yeah: :lol:
I really think the black community needs to sit down and talk about it. What are we going to do and what we want other non black people to understand about the word. It is a part of our history and culture.
Are there really that many black people who finds the word offensive?
:cool:
Here are a few light hearted "offensive" jokes about white people you can have a read of:
How long does it take for a white women to take a crap? 9 months
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What did a white guy see when he looked at his family tree? A straight line!
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What did the white man do before his blood test? He studied.
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What do you call 500,000 white guys jumping out of a plane? Snow.
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What does a white man do at the club? Pout while all the colored folk are bumpin’ & grindin’ with all of his fine white bitches.
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What does a white woman and a tampon have in common? They’re both stuck up cunts.
See! White people might get offended by stuffs too
:eek:
Perseus
November 21st, 2011, 08:49 AM
Nigger is just a word like kike, spick, chink, honkey, sand nigger, whatever. Words are words and no body should flip their shit because someone calls them a word to degrade them because they're a fucking hick.
zuluman78
November 21st, 2011, 11:56 AM
You cant stop people from saying what they want, good or bad. The "n" word doesn't mean what it use to mean, but it my opinion - neither black or white, asians, arabs etc people should use it in a degrading and or insulting manner .It is very hypocritical when black people (like myself) use the word and then get pissed when a white dude uses it, as if it has a different meaning all of a sudden. But i dont find the word offensive most of the time. I just dont like labels, i dont like to call myself black, i dont even see myself as black its just a label society has given me. I just see myself for me
Nigga's both by black and white people were seen as lazy,arrogant,ignorant, stupid black people. So i guess it can be offensive to call someone that
xxbunkxx
November 21st, 2011, 08:33 PM
i dont get why black people can call each other niggers but white people cant call black people niggers
huginnmuninn
November 22nd, 2011, 04:25 PM
damn NIGGERS always trying to put us down. no, censorship is wrong even for the best reasons first it starts with a word and then it goes onto anything that is offensive.
i only call my friends niggas and thats usualy because i'm messing with them and they know it.
xxbunkxx
November 22nd, 2011, 06:34 PM
i agree (;
Neptune
November 22nd, 2011, 07:50 PM
It completely depends on how it is used. If someone is dead serious, then, okay, you shouldn't call somebody that. But black people call each other ''niggers'' all the time. Should that stop? Rap songs use the word all the time.
And what are your opinions on black people calling white people ''crackers?'' Not all white people are racist, or, slave owners - which is what the word ''cracker'' means in literal term. It's not because crackers are white, it's because that slave owners, usually white people, would crack their whips when hitting slaves.
Jupiter
November 22nd, 2011, 10:26 PM
Don't say it like... you're a money grubbing nigger.
Or, you motherfucking chinc stealing all our money.
Or, you cracker meth heads.
If you're just messing around, I think it's okay. *shurgs* maybe that's just me, but it's showing it's not just me in the posts :P
Marky
November 22nd, 2011, 11:17 PM
I believe it all depends on how the conversation is. Im mexicans and we get called wet backs and chilly pickers but it depends on the conversation, formal or not formal, and if that person is comfortable with racial slurs
Maxxie
November 30th, 2011, 09:32 PM
My thoughts on the matter. (http://youtu.be/zuLrBLxbLxw)
Peace God
November 30th, 2011, 09:38 PM
My thoughts on the matter. (http://youtu.be/zuLrBLxbLxw)
This. Fuck the "n-word" it's "nigga" or "nigger".
Also this (1:10-1:29)...
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deadpie
December 1st, 2011, 02:14 AM
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Just to be funny.
So I heard sticks and stones break your bones, but words demolish them too!
Now, unlike most of my posts, I'm not going to use a single swear word. Instead, I'm going to show that you can use words JUST as offensive and cruel than so called "curse words", including the, "Letter N word."
Please, just close your eyes if you're too easily offended. In fact, you're going to be offended by the texts below even if you're not easily offended. This is not meant to be taken seriously, I'm not a racist, homophobe, et al. Even though it might definitely seem like that after reading this, but I'm not! I'm a really a nice guy by heart.
All African Americans are should feel degraded, because they have low income, smell, and they also have gigantic sized lips. I've never met an african american who didn't want to shoot me in the face, or even one single african american who hasn't killed somebody. They're all violent people, having killed and/or raped three to four people before the age of sixteen, mainly because they're raised in an area of poverty. But that's their fault, because they are evil from the start! They also have very large reproductive organ size, which is bad, because it can kill you. They want to kill you with their large reproductive organs though, that's the thing. I once had sexual intercourse with an african american and ended up in the hospital, then finding myself hospitalized for three years! Traumatic african american reproductive organ still shows up in my night mares. My prostate is completely destroyed and squashed.
There! Not one single use of the "Letter N Word", but JUST as offensive.
Another thing, these opinions would NOT be accepted in public. Now that letter N word? Probably a little more acceptable, but not completely obviously because it's considered a "Curse word". See, you find every version of the context of this word to be bad to use, even if it's not meant to offend, which i find quite dorky. Sorry if that word was too vulgar now.
emo, cutter, retard, crazy,femi-nazi, fag, loser, white trash, poor, dirty,whore/slut, dumbass,devil worshiper,fat, ugly,etc
None of those words offend me. Even though I'm bisexual, I'm technically a loser, white trash, was put in special education, i'm not the most handsome guy either. None of these words would bother me if I were called them.
Now if someone punched, hit, fucked, stabbed, shot, etc me without my permission, that would hurt me. Why would it hurt me? Because my skin and bones can be broken by bullets, metal, hands, feet, and all those other nice things.
Grimm
December 14th, 2011, 05:12 PM
If your Anti-racism then why are you deciding what race can use a stupid fucking word? Really, I don't use the word because it offends people, but I see no problem being used.
*Also why do you say american american? WHAT THE FUCK do they have to do with Africa? They are American, just like me/ Using a county do denote a race is not only stupid, but also annoying as fuck.
PS. Sorry for all the fucking swearing. I'll avoid that shit in the future.
antiabort
December 14th, 2011, 10:52 PM
IMO There is nothing wrong with saying nigger, regardless of what you are.
Syvelocin
December 14th, 2011, 11:39 PM
I think it's all in the intent. Personally, I don't believe in bad words. They're only bad if you make them bad.
But I think it's what is meant that counts. For instance, I'm seeing an increased number of homosexuals who don't mind being called faggot or dyke, but at least to me it matters only if it's meant to be mean. If my friend calls me a dyke I really couldn't care less. If someone shouts it at my girlfriend and me out a car window, I'm going to get fucking pissed off.
When in doubt though, it's just better to not say them I guess. But really, we need to get tougher skin (lol, I'm saying that to others? Ironic).
kenoloor
December 15th, 2011, 12:01 AM
I think it's all in the intent. Personally, I don't believe in bad words. They're only bad if you make them bad.
But I think it's what is meant that counts. For instance, I'm seeing an increased number of homosexuals who don't mind being called faggot or dyke, but at least to me it matters only if it's meant to be mean. If my friend calls me a dyke I really couldn't care less. If someone shouts it at my girlfriend and me out a car window, I'm going to get fucking pissed off.
When in doubt though, it's just better to not say them I guess. But really, we need to get tougher skin (lol, I'm saying that to others? Ironic).
This. Getting offended at words is stupid. Getting offended at intent is...well, less stupid.
canadaski
December 16th, 2011, 04:29 PM
The thing that pisses me off is that it's perfectly alright in the eyes of most to call someone a faggot, however you'd better not get caught calling someone a nigger. How can that be considered equality by any stretch. If you want to fix a problem, you have to fix the whole problem.
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